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Falkland Islands in moving tribute to Baroness Thatcher, “a great friend of the Islands”
A memorial and thanksgiving service to Baroness Thatcher was held in the Falkland Islands Wednesday afternoon at the local church a few hours after the main ceremony in London’s St Paul cathedral. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesthe families of the people killed in the Belgrano ALSO will not forget you tatcher. it is time for you to answer them ( face to face ) why did you kill them.
Apr 18th, 2013 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0you will never rest in peace.
Please note the words of Enrique Molina Pico Admiral, former Chief of General Staff of the Navy.
Apr 18th, 2013 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Was not a war crime, but a combat action,”
Sir,
Mrs. Pierini framed the sinking of the cruiser General Belgrano as a war crime unpunished and unclaimed by our country.
“I have an obligation to make public my total disagreement. Was not a war crime, but a combat action, the 323 crew members who gave their lives were not murdered: died fighting for our country, which is the maximum that can make delivery military.
”The integrated naval force was deployed for an attack on the British fleet forming a coordinated operation with other naval groups, the course that had momentarily away from the enemy fleet, as commander Admiral should wait a moment considered most suitable. The Belgrano and the other ships were a threat and a danger to the British.
“Its location outside the exclusion zone meant not withdraw from the war. All commanders at sea had been the British media establishment that area. The message stated in its final part:” The government of His Majesty reserves the right to attack any ship or aircraft, within or outside the exclusion zone, which it considers a threat to its forces. “Leave the exclusion zone was not to leave the combat zone to enter a protected area.
”There was a violation of international law was an act of war and that was the position as head of the Navy in 1995 with presentations held in various courts.
“The internal political problems did not govern the conduct of those who fought. The Belgrano was sunk endowment aware of its risks.
”To think that were poorly killed and not killed in combat is to offend the memory they deserve who fought for us.”
Enrique Molina Pico
Admiral, former Chief of
General Staff of the Navy
CI 4293994
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/700676-cartas-de-lectores
2 Terence Hill
Apr 18th, 2013 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O184yGKknSQ
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Apr 18th, 2013 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0ARA Belgrano “ Rust in pieces!”
I can't believe people are still mentioning the Belgrano, it was a enemy warship at sea in a conflict started by your country. Attack the British with military force and any military unit is fair game.
Apr 18th, 2013 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, rest in peace Maggie you were a brilliant leader, person and human and won't be forgotten.
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Apr 18th, 2013 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It always strikes me that you apportion no blame to the fact that the ship was there, stuffed with Exocets by your own government waging a war that you started. I know It's an Argentinian characteristic to play the victim, but you should at least try to to at least do it in a cogent way.
The captain of the vessel, Capt. Bonzo, on various occasions insisted that the sinking of of the General Belgrano was, in his words, “a licit act of war”. He acknowledged that he was, under orders, effecting manoeuvres in order to better attack the ships of the British Task Force. His account of the event was supported by Admiral Enrique Molina Pico, Head of the General Staff of the Argentine Navy.
Apr 18th, 2013 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst, of course, an unfortunate event it would never have occurred had not Argentina illegally invaded the Falkland Islands in the previous April thus provoking the British armed response to regain the archipelago.
Any other interpretation of the event is just plain stupidity and wishful thinking on the part of Argentina and its pursuit, by way way of myths and fairy tales, for sovereignty of the Falkland Islands.
“”“It always strikes me that you apportion no blame to the fact that the ship was there, stuffed with Exocets by your own government waging a war that you started. I know It's an Argentinian characteristic to play the victim, but you should at least try to to at least do it in a cogent way.”“”
Apr 18th, 2013 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0QFT
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Argentines seem to expect the people they declare war on to just roll over and accept it - if they fight back it “a war crime”.
@1 the reason it was sank was because, you Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands, stop being pathetic.
Apr 18th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 03.. read post 2 ..pretty cut and dry I would say ;)
Apr 18th, 2013 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Please change your name. Call yourself “hypocrite”! FACTS: Argieland sent FOUR naval task forces and 66,000 troops to attack, invade and conquer a peaceful Island community of 1,500 civilians and 80 Royal Marines (the Governor's Honour Guard). ”Through a message passed via the Swiss Embassy in Buenos Aires to the Argentine government on 23 April, the UK made clear that it no longer considered the 200-mile (370 km) exclusion zone as the limit of its military action. The message read:
Apr 18th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0In announcing the establishment of a Maritime Exclusion Zone around the Falkland Islands, Her Majesty's Government made it clear that this measure was without prejudice to the right of the United Kingdom to take whatever additional measures may be needed in the exercise of its right of self-defence under Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. In this connection Her Majesty's Government now wishes to make clear that any approach on the part of Argentine warships, including submarines, naval auxiliaries or military aircraft, which could amount to a threat to interfere with the mission of British Forces in the South Atlantic will encounter the appropriate response. All Argentine aircraft, including civil aircraft engaged in surveillance of these British forces, will be regarded as hostile and are liable to be dealt with accordingly.“ Do you think you can start a war and have all your ”assets“ inviolable? Then you are incredibly naive. The Belgrano was quite properly sunk on 2 May. NINE days later. Not as though you weren't warned!
@3 ”On 1 May 1982, Admiral Juan Lombardo ordered all Argentine naval units to seek out the British task force around the Falklands and launch a “massive attack” the following day. The Belgrano, which was outside the exclusion zone to the north, was ordered south.” Thus, not that it made a difference, sailing INTO the exclusion zone!
How you people like to lie! Can you do anything else?
#1 and #3
Apr 18th, 2013 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just do not want to know the truth even from your own military.
Probably you don't know this fact about naval architecture.
Ships are equipped with rudders controlled by a wheel. The purpose of this is to point a ship in a direction of travel in which you wish to proceed. This can be changed instantly by turning this wheel.
The British had been reading the Argentinian naval coded messages and knew that the Belgrano was part of a pincer movement to attack the British fleet.
The Conqueror had been shadowing the Belgrano by sailing directly underneath it in deep water. When the Belgrano was due to turn back into shallower waters, the Conqueror could not have followed it and would have broken off contact.
The result could have been a disaster for our task force.
So, she was sunk. The large loss of life can be laid at the door of the escorts who steamed away to leave the survivors to their fate.
Before you post anymore trash, read your own country's account of what happened.
See also 7 and 11 above !!!!!!!!
@1 hipolyte
Apr 18th, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of hairy bollocks. The blame lies squarely at the door of Argentina. It was a legit act of war and were it truly a war crime, what's stopping you from going to the ICJ and The Hague to demand justice? Nothing is stopping you except the TRUTH.
More on the General Belgrano incident:-
Apr 18th, 2013 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“En 2005 Pedro Luis Galazi, segundo en jerarquía en el buque, en unas declaraciones hechas al periódico argentino ”La Capital”22 consideró legítima la acción del submarino HMS Conqueror. El segundo comandante del Crucero General Belgrano justificó virtualmente esa acción al señalar que se encontraban en guerra, y no tenía sentido decir que los británicos no debían atacar porque el buque argentino se hallaba fuera de la zona de exclusión, como sostienen quienes cuestionan la legitimidad del ataque. Explica además que ellos (la flota argentina) también podían entrar en combate. Revela que no poseían misiles, pero sí estaban acompañados por dos destructores y el Belgrano contaba con cañones de 20 km de alcance. Aclaró además que “la zona de exclusión” es un diagrama geográfico importante en situaciones de bloqueo, pero no en un conflicto de guerra.”
1 hipolyte
Apr 18th, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the families of the people killed in the Belgrano ALSO will not forget you
GUESS WHAT
Neither will the families of the people killed on the British ships,
Forget what you lot did..
Hypercrit..
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@15 and what galls me is how the Belgrano (once called the USS Phoenix) served in the Pacific theatre in WW2 fighting Tojo's/Hirohito's flavor of Fascism and she was sunk -- when you take the broader implication of her last CO's own words -- in active service OF Fascism and its export to a new population who would have been expected to experience the same kidnappings, torture, involuntary adoptions from dissident parents to favored politicos, and of course one-way “miles runs” that were going in in Argentina at the time and would have continued with their new popular mandate.
Apr 19th, 2013 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0it seems they have an exuse for everything,
Apr 19th, 2013 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0their anti british knows no bounds,
still,
if it was not us, they would be slagging of some other poor defencless country..
Even more about the sinking of the General Belgrano:-
Apr 20th, 2013 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www1.rionegro.com.ar/diario/debates/2011/01/14/27122.php
#18
Apr 20th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets hope that this - in Spanish from Argentine forces puts this to bed for ever -but I doubt it !
Baroness Thatcher was not only a great friend of the Falklands, but also the great Liberator of the Islanders from Argentina's fascist occupation.
Apr 21st, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HMS Conqueror did her war duty when she sank the cruiser “Belgrano.” The Belgrano's two escorts instead of saving the Argentine sailors from drowning, escaped as fast as they could. Shame on them!
Philippe
1 You silly fool. It is precisely because she accepted military advice and nullified the Belgrano threat that Maggie Thatcher will rest in peace.
Apr 25th, 2013 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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