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Venezuela’s Maduro talks to Cartes and calls for re-establishment of relations
In a surprise move Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro talked on Tuesday to Paraguay’s president-elect Horacio Cartes to congratulate him on Sunday’s election and express interest in retaking the “rhythm of bilateral relations”, which were interrupted when the removal of Fernando Lugo. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYes Paraguay haven't you learnt your lesson yet?
Apr 24th, 2013 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0You breach the spirit of your constitution and we'll throw your arse out..... and then breach our own rules by admitting a country you blocked for 6 years.
And then we'll ignore Venezuela's actual breach of the letter, not the spirit, but the letter of their constitution.
And then we'll all act like friends even though we're a bunch of two-faced back stabbers.
Welcome back Paraguay. You were probably more democratic when you were banned from Mercosur and UNASUR.
Wonder if the phone conversation went anything like that?
Ditto # 1
Apr 24th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Paraguay. Going to learn how to be populist, corrupt and criminal, are you? Your choice. Have you considered being in the 21st century?
Apr 24th, 2013 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its interesting isnt it? Even though Castres is firmly 'right wing conservative' The corrupt 'left wing' leaders of SA realise they can do 'business' with him because really hes one of them - corrupt.
Apr 24th, 2013 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Integrity? whats that?
it´s ironic that Paraguay kept Venezuela out of Mercosur for years & now they are relying on them for re-admittance ...... S.American politics never ceases to amaze me!!!
Apr 24th, 2013 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know little about Paraguay, although I've been there a few times. Cartes is playing the game very well. He has a pragmatic smart business strategy and being able to work freely within Mercosur is necessary for his country to maintain one of the currently best growing economies in the Americas. #4 forgets that corruption is a part of their national character, but they are successful.
Apr 24th, 2013 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0# 1 - Wow, you're talking to Paraguay as if it was a person! If Paraguay had a better option than being part of Mercosul it would do it.
Apr 24th, 2013 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0# 3 - What Paraguay does is their problem. I guess I missed the memo when you were elected World Judge.
# 4 - Really, you don't say that in capitalism people try to do business with whoever they can? I guess you haven't noticed all the chinese products you own made by chinese kids.
# 5 - If you haven't understood that politics is a dirty game, then you'll be surprised at all news relating to politics.
Perhaps if chubby did not bail out Argentina and support and pay Cuba's way, they could provide electricity from the government run electric company.
Apr 24th, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/129481/venezuela-declares-90day-electricity-‘emergency’
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Apr 24th, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed. Chile was the FIRST South American nation to recognize Communist China...which was done during military rule. Business is business, and it's been great for us.
The US Recognize china business has nothing to do with ideology if the world did run on ideology we will be all poor.
Apr 24th, 2013 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Furthermore capitalism is not an ideology it could take many forms is a force to recons with and the best system so far to improve the lives of people but it cannot go uncheck.
@Cornelius
Apr 24th, 2013 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Totally agree
Corelius........well said. Capitalism appears to be the best system to improve the lives. China never had a so many people doing so well until they implemented capitalist ideals. Prior to market systems, only the political class did well. But as you said, capitalism needs to be well monitored and never left unchecked. There is a fine rope to walk between over regulation and the lack of it.
Apr 25th, 2013 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tell that to the Greeks...
Apr 25th, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tell that to the Spaniards...
Tell that tp the Irish...
Tell that to the Icelanders...
Tell that to the Portuguese...
Tell that to the Italians...
But don't tell that to us, we don't believe you...
;)
Stevie Socialism is a redistribution of the labor of those who produce them to those who claim is their right of to have it is an ideology not attached to reality tell that to the Cubans, eastern European, the Venezuelan, the 11 million Argentinean who do not work and wait for government hand outs
Apr 26th, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Capitalism is an extension of the human evolution is in our gene, is self preservation and we have the brains to understand and control it.
If it wasn’t for the capitalist reward system will we not have the world we have today and all the advancement in technology. The reward can take many forms and is not all way’s money .
If we were all equal we will all still be riding horses
“Capitalism is the best path to prosperity”
Education is a painful process (Thomas Jefferson 1743- 1816)
To #12 yes the roll of government is to make the plain field equal for all so we can compete! They should provide Health care, and education and safety, but not free but affordable.
No cornelius
Apr 27th, 2013 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Socialism is local production, cooperation and distribution of wealth. Not personal wealth, but the wealth of the country.
Socialism is shared ownership of those institutions that ensures a descent life.
Socialism is shared responsability of education, health, energy and everything that puts the frames to ensure the basic needs.
If you want to make personal profit, do so with the excess, not with what is needed.
The basic needs are a human right and we have the technology to offer just that.
You lot need to starve...
How come socialism is not working you are in denial of reality! The countries that do well are capitalist with a democratic system.
Apr 27th, 2013 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0How come Argentinean socialist production is going down and down and down?
How come china recognized capitalism and because of that they advance!
How come Venezuela cannot feed themselves their food production is going down and down?
Stevie I have to say this and I try to be respectful but you are an obtuse mind and cannot see the light.
Wrong, the countries that historically have done best, are the Nordic ones.
Apr 27th, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those nations have experienced several decades of socialism.
In Sweden some 70 straight years up until the 90's.
Just have a look at Sweden now, after 20 years of privatizations and free trade...
Since about 1935 Sweden has had a capitalist economy governed by social democratic policies, including with high, redistributive income tax rates (55%) and general welfare benefits (even when under conservative governments). After 1935, a collective bargaining scheme was set up which gave both unions and businesses representation and a forum to mediate disputes. This form of class collaboration was intended to stave off socialist ideas of abolishing capitalism for a socialist economic system. The majority of industries in Sweden are privately-owned, with very few collectively-owned and publicly-owned firms.
Apr 27th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Swedish economic model, which has been similar to other Scandinavian countries and therefore are called the “Scandinavian model” or “Nordic model”, has the goal of creating a welfare state, not a state based on collective ownership.
Large private-owned companies from Sweden is i.e. IKEA, H&M and Ericsson. The existence of large privately-owned companies is not compatible with the definition of socialism. Unlike SA socialism, the Nordics do not look to own all the enterprises, or significant enterprises. Nordics countries are more of a hybrid.
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Apr 27th, 2013 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is bullocks.
Sweden started to privatize the telephony, the energy sector, schools and hospitals in the beginning of the 90's.
Actually, I've read those exact words you are using... are you copying and pasting?
I remember I reacted the same way then as I do now.
“The existence of large privately-owned companies is not compatible with the definition of socialism”
That is utter bullocks. The definition of socialism is very fluent and only describes an alternative to capitalism.
I never claimed to create it.........but it is what it is ....truth.
Apr 27th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pure socialism is dead, that's why SA is going after it. Read what you will or want from Sweden's own government website.
http://www.sweden.se/eng/Home/Business/
Swedens socialism died with Olof Palme, murdered on the streets of Stockholm.
Apr 27th, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since then Sweden has followed the path of the wind.
And look at where the wind has left it...
Not the socialist you claim. Did you read, I am sorry......did someone read it for you?
Apr 27th, 2013 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Socialism isn't about nationalising every enterprise, it's about nationalising the ones that cares of the basic needs of the population. Up until 1990, education, health care, railroads, energy sector, you name it, was nationalised in Sweden.
Apr 27th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So it was indeed socialism, an alternative to capitalism. A very good alternative, ensuring all the inhabitants the basic needs and still giving space to private enterprises, who profitted of peoples greeds, and not on their needs.
Yes basic need for all, no progress and poverty that is a sure think tell that to Argentina 11 millions new poor, high crime and corruption, yes misery equally for everybody.
Apr 28th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If there is no incentive there will be no progress capitalism the best path to prosperity Stevie are you insane or stupid!
Live examples Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain, all with great social benefits can create a single job because they are socialist base economy they cannot feed themselves government benefits collected from the people who works and produced and these people are leaving those country at tremendous rate Spain lost population for the first time since 1946 why don’t they stay there if was so great!
In Greece you could retire at 55 if you were a government employee.
The Argentinean government social budget grew 700 % since The Emperor in Argentina took over I think they call the president ask her and her husband (Dead good think) the biggest thieves of Argentina of the 20th and 21st century. She will go to jail at the end.
Socialism is dead and if not we need to eradicate them so we can save humanity.
No progress in Sweden up until 1990?
Apr 28th, 2013 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Misery in Sweden up until 1990?
Greece has never been a socialist country.
Spain has never been a socialist country.
Ireland has never been a socialist country.
Portugal has never been a socialist country.
They may all have experienced socialist regimes, but not uninterrupted socialism like Swedens case.
And you lot already tried to eradicate socialism.
You failed.
And you will fail again.
Stevie I rest my case Argentina will not pass this winter with the same Government the wins of revolution is on!
Apr 28th, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We all see the success of socialism in SA. You lot have never achieved any level of success. If you lot did, you would not have the level of poverty that exists in SA. The one thing you lot have a lot of is a lot of corruption in the lot you lot call government. But then you lot do not really have a democracy yet a elected authoritarian regime. But that's what you lot wanted. Can you lot tell this lot why you lot started as the same time, if not early than the lot in North American yet you lot are less developed?
Apr 28th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This influs on insults and name calling from you lot stevie should be interesting and filled will all sorts of claims, conjecture and allegations.
Go for stevie and all you lots.
Poppy
Apr 28th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed I can.
Our biggest defeat was the creation on many nations within South America.
Bolivar, San Martín and Artigas all fought for a federal union, a united South America, just like in the North.
Another major difference was the immigrants in USA were there to create and construct a new home and life for themselves, with land provided for the take, in South America we had land owners that used the land to exploit, both resources and humans.
So while North America experienced freedom to prosper, construct and develop, we in the south got the oligarchy to deal with.
A lot of water has passed under the rivers since, and now you lot gave up that freedom to the bankers and the multinationals, while we finally got rid of the oligarchs...
Chile and Bolivia really make for a united SA.......We'll see the out come between Brazil and Argentina. I seriously doubt SA can create a united SA like in the USA...ever. Too much political corruption, authoritarian heads of state.......maybe one like the former USSR though...there's a goal to chase.
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