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Argentine minister forecasts solid victory in October election; polls say the contrary
Argentina’s Federal Planning minister Julio de Vido called on Buenos Aires province mayors to defend the Cristina Fernandez government model and predicted a solid victory in the mid term legislative elections of next October. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment ruleswhen you can buy votes, that's an easy predicition.
Apr 29th, 2013 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0De Vido went on to say that what is needed in “an Argentina for all such as proposed by President Cristina”
Apr 29th, 2013 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed, it would be fitting that she should continue in office to see the realistion of - “an Argentina for all such as proposed by President Cristina”.
The public need to be reminded of all the dimplomatic successes CFK has had, including the development of new petroleum and gas fields, new infrastructure projects, such as the high speed rail to Rosario, the encouraging of foreign investment, the success in attracting increased tourism, such as cruise liners, and last but not least, the re-opening of direct air service to the Islas Malvinas.
Apr 29th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Add to that, lowering inflation, strengthening the Peso and helping business development. Of course she'll win, our glorious beautiful queen!
Yes I'm torn on what I'd rank as the “most successful policy”.
Apr 29th, 2013 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd say..... inflation
Surely the most successful as it ranks as one of the highest in the world. And let's face it, there's few ranking where Argentina is closer to the top rather than the bottom.
politician says political things...
Apr 29th, 2013 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0great news item.
yay for MercoPress.
This guy is dreaming, like most of the government cronies they have lost touch with reality (just like RG trolls on here)
Apr 29th, 2013 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the money man behind the Kirchners he is strongly implicated in the money laundering schemes & when the truth comes out he will be the first one to get lynched........he may not last until October!!!
@61
Apr 30th, 2013 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You may be right. He may be dreaming. PJ maybe headed for a fall in these mid terms.
But what about the UK mid terms. Who is going to win those? Oh, hang on, I forgot. The UK doesn't have mid terms does it. In fact UK elections are only held very rarely. And, when they are held, because most offices are filled by appointment, the UK voters have nothing to vote for.
If you say so! Must be right.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 07 troll
Apr 30th, 2013 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Deflection anyone??
I thought the article was about the Argentina election, and the controversial prediction by a minister that CFK was bound to win.
@7 there are effectively mid terms - they are local council elections and in fact they are this week. Usually the party in power takes a slap and this time will be no different. The Conservatives won a ton of seats when Labour was in power and they are likely to give most of them back now they are in power.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take two things from that - firstly, the electorate does feel like it has a credible choice unlike in Argentina where no matter how crap CFK is no-one appears as an alternative (maybe they are scared they would be on the receiving end of a tax investigation?) and secondly there is no intimidation of voters or claims of electoral fraud. The loser takes it on the chin. Something you might like to consider the next time something doesn't go your way, rather than blaming someone else.
@7
Apr 30th, 2013 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“But what about the UK mid terms. Who is going to win those? Oh, hang on, I forgot. The UK doesn't have mid terms does it. In fact UK elections are only held very rarely. And, when they are held, because most offices are filled by appointment, the UK voters have nothing to vote for.”
Which country appoints minister from unelected people?
Which country appoints ministers from elected people?
Which country has been a dictatorship several times in the last 100 years?
Which country ranks as a FULL democracy?
Which country ranks as a FLAWED democracy?
I see some people rank stable democratic institutions lower than instability.
@10
Apr 30th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Council elections! Tell me you are joking - right!
In Argentina elections are held every 2 & 4 years for the legislative and executive candidates at the national, provincial and municipal levels. This is in addition to the open primaries. In the context of this article the PJ (and the other parties) are standing for elections that do not exist in the UK.
It only appears to you that there is no opposition in Argentina because you know absolutely nothing about that country. And no amount of reading of this British run site will correct your deficiency.
@12 no I'm not joking I will leave that to you.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Council elections are the equivalent of provincial and municipal elections and are held every four years on a rolling basis, so every year in May there are a number of councils up for grabs. By the way, if you change your government every two years you will never achieve anything.
Also, remind me how long CFK and Nestor have been in power collectively? No doubt if Nestor was still alive he would have put the country in his wife's name so he could carry on lining his pocket.
I don't just use this site for information, thanks for your concern.
@13
Apr 30th, 2013 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Again you are showing your ignorance. The mid terms in this article are being held to elect members of the national legislature. How many national legislative positions will be filled by the council elections? Zero? Yes you are correct. Give the man a cigar Gracy.
If you hold elections every two years you will achieve what the voters want you to achieve. Your assertion that achievements are only .Ade in the absence of elections highlights you undemocratic view of the world.
Any way administrations have not been changing every two years in Argentina as you point out in your post.
@14 you are living up to your troll nickname. I didn't say the council elections were for a national legislature, I was replying to your statement that the UK holds elections infrequently (which is wrong) by stating that every year there are elections in the UK. Because very few people know their local council candidate, and because nearly everyone in the country has the chanceto vote, these are taken as a proxy for how the country would vote if a general election was held.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you hold elections every two years the government will do what it needs to get re-elected, not necessarily what is right for the country. You will end up with a populist government pandering to the lowest common denominator.
Sound familiar?
@15
Apr 30th, 2013 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the UK - once every 5 years for one house of the legislature only - no executive elections at all. Once every 4 years for a total council election - NP executive election.
There you go again - suggesting that's what is “right” for the country is different than what you the majority of voters want. Call that democracy?
ironman - hes successfully deflected the story form being about argentina to you defending your comments on the Uk system... or other politicla systems in general.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0this is post 17
he wins.
dont get sucked into these sideline deflection schemes.
Anbar is correct.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0After all the “national elections” in Argentina it is still a FLAWED democracy beholden to a popular president and prone to dictatorships periodically no matter what a troll says.
The fact that someone on an article about democracy in Argentina feels the need to compare it to the UK is a sure sign that they are uncomfortable with the subject.
@17 Fair point.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0To get it back on track, I hope CFK gets a third term, I'm not sure she has quite stuffed the country enough. Of course, anything she does is fair enough, because she has been democratically elected so no-one can complain.
Now let's “think” about this sensibly. de Vido predicted a “solid” victory in October. Hands up those who expected him to predict a defeat? “and demanded that the mayors support the government.” Whoops, there's that word again. Isn't argieland supposed to be “democratic”? Then what does it matter what the mayors do? The mayors aren't “the people”. Aaah, but I'm sure that the mayors are essential to the process of buying votes. If for no other reason than that they need to look the other way. After all, if the “Justice Party” doesn't get elected, could their “nice little earners” and federal funds dry up? Could the federal government suddenly hand all sorts of responsibilities to the municipalities? But without the funds to pay for them. This isn't so much a statement of confidence as a threat. Why would a government with solid support want to have a rally of this type 6 months ahead of elections?
Apr 30th, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just more babble from one of her talking heads. And yes he is implicated in the money laundering schemes...maybe he and cfk can have adjoining cells.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0He´s also one of the strongest advocates of ´democratizing´ the judiciary...... these crooks know that the only way to avoid a jail cell once they have been thrown out of power is to have friends in high places i.e. the supreme court
Apr 30th, 2013 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0It´s how the dictators stayed free for so long & how Menem is still a senator being paid by the taxpayer after robbing the country blind for over 10 years
Cristina's government model is doing fine. Four more years to finish the job - Argentina is only half-destroyed.
Apr 30th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All is well
Apr 30th, 2013 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All is well
if they vote her back in,
Apr 30th, 2013 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they deserve all they get.
@11
May 01st, 2013 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0(1) Many countries but the answer I think you are looking for is the UK.
(2) Again I think the answer you are looking for is Argentina.
(3) Where to start with this one. First the UK has not been a democracy for 100 years - not even under its own stunted definition. But look at the record of the last 100 years - India, Kenya, Nigeria, Egypt, Iraq,.... For instance the UK engineered a coup in Iran in the early 1950s and installed a violent and repressive regime. The UK is the Junta!
(4) There are no full democracies in the world.
(5) Again I think the answer you are looking for is the UK.
There might be no full democracies in the world, but even then the UK is still closer to the ideal than Argentina has ever been now or in the past.
May 01st, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh and Argentina is AGAIN heading further away from that ideal.
Nothing if not consistent!
Where to start with this one. First the UK has not been a democracy for 100 years -
May 01st, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK has been a democracy for over a thousand years,
one may interpret what one wishes,
but argentina is not..
@18
May 02nd, 2013 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah yes all the anti democratic arguments are coming out now. Fancy th president, having won an election, being popular. How would you have it? Would you prefer the candidate who got the least number of votes to be president? Or maybe you prefer the British method of not having an election at all.
@29 poop john
May 02nd, 2013 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps he meant 'populist' president??
As to “ not having an election at all”,
- what are you talking about?????
What an asinine statement!
Troll Pope
Have you been called in to relieve 'stevieguzz' ?
He's had some long tough days lately - defending the indefensible CFK!
Yeah because being a democracy is solely about holding elections.
May 02nd, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Such as those held in North Korea in 2009.
And what a knife-edge result that wasn't!
Having “Democratic” in your countries name does not make it democratic, but you are in great company with other countries with democratic in their name.
May 02nd, 2013 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Teachers, strike, UTA strikes, Farmers refusing to sell their goods in protest of inflation, CGT preparing for more strikes, hundreds of thousand of general public flock to the streets against the Rambling cunt of Argentina. Public service employees are constatntly being paid late, wait until there is n paycheck. Yees John III(fool), we can all see popular she is. In fact she is so popular she is appearing on more and more bulls eyes.
She will become even more popular when Argentina cannot heat their homes this winter. She will be well loved.
Other than taking control and turning judges into politicians, Argentina removed the strongest tenent of democracy, and independent judiciary. The mad cunt does not like that fact the the Human Rights Commssion for Asslips favorite organization...the UN has stepped out and openingly criticised Argentina for moving in the opposite direction of democracy....A Brazilian no less.
Here's a little blurb form an extremely left/liberal news media.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/largest-financial-collapse-in-history_b_3180138.html
YFP claiming inflation is killing their investments and profits, a government owned compnay complaing about inflation....mmmm imagine that.
LNG imports up 74%
refinery stll down...get they imports parts to fix it? Import gas and diesel until then.
I love the new one from AFIP. If you make more then X, you must have deomestic workers. If you are not reporting and paying taxes for them, they are sending you a billing for them. All because you MUST have domestic help.
Yeah....they all love the cunt and the Democratic Republi c of Argentina.
@32 capt poppy
May 02nd, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I love the new one from AFIP. If you make more then X, you must have deomestic workers. If you are not reporting and paying taxes for them, they are sending you a billing for them. All because you MUST have domestic help.”
What!!!
Captain, forgive me for being incredulous.
Is there a link?
This is insane - in other words, I know it makes sense from CFK's pov.
Is that how bad it is??
This government is absolutely f'cking the people and their country - stereotypical 'populism' - Argentinians are legislated to poverty.
Rather than elevating everyone to prosperity, they will all fall to the lowest common denominator.
CFK is in a sh*tload of trouble when the blackouts start!!!
Here is a quick blurb from the Herald. I read it in another article in more detail. Call it the “Presumption tax” lol
May 02nd, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/130047/afip-to-presume-people-employ-full-time-help-according-to-income
Argentina...
May 03rd, 2013 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still $5.135= 1 USD Growth 5% estimated for 2013.
Jealous Yanks and Britons falling like stones.
Sorry you have chose the wrong place to live.
SYL
Still $5.135 off course you fucking moron. It is controlled by asslips kirchner, not markets forces of supply and demand because no one would it is demanding it's over abundant supply!
May 03rd, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@31
May 03rd, 2013 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Holding elections is not sufficient to ensure democracy. However, holding elections is necessary in a democratic system. Most offices in England are not filled by election. This is why England is a fourth rate democracy.
@Craptain Poopy
May 03rd, 2013 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dollar from Banco Provincia still $5.135.
What the price of burritos and tacos in the open market USAMEX?
Buy AR$ (pesos) because someone told me that scarce in US.
Sure US will collapse because I saw that in the Fed balance no much pesos are available.
But you are bloody lucky and will got “Ameros”
lololololololololololololololololololololololol.....you are not German...they have a brain. Work a little harder you might annoy someone.
May 03rd, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lololololololololololol
peso busted 10.00 tell your ignornat corrupt leader to put the peso on the free market. I would buy some to wipe my ass but Charmin is a better deal.
With 30% inflation, only idiots would want pesos........even YPF is gagging on a mouthful of inflation......lolololololololol
good thing you are in Germanay lololololololololol
dumberger....you are the comedic gift that keeps giving
lolololololololol
Amexica, Doesn’t look any good eh!
May 04th, 2013 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Is the U.S. Economy on the Verge of Epic Collapse?”
“Here in America we hear the same lies and distortions about the economy as we heard about the EU: “Everything is fine”… “It’s getting better”… “Unemployment is improving”… “The crisis is under control”… and of course, “The recovery is already underway.”
We now know they are delusional lies. Cyprus citizens had their life savings stolen by their own government directly from their bank accounts. In Spain bankruptcies were up 45% in the first quarter. In Italy public buses were recently forced to return to the depot because there was no money to pay for gas. In Greece 33,000 citizens a month are losing their electricity, for failure to pay the bill. In France the Jobs Minister let it slip that “France is completely bankrupt.” In the UK the economy is headed for a dreaded and unprecedented “triple dip recession.” It is clear Europe is entering a Great Depression.
How far behind can America be? Our media says we are in a “recovery” incessantly. We are told that because the stock market is rising, because housing is enjoying a few signs of life (at bankruptcy prices), and because cars are selling better than the terrible rate they sold at last year, that the U.S. economy is doing well. It’s a mirage.
Stocks are rising because the Federal Reserve is printing $85 billion per month in fake money and dropping it onto Wall Street. Housing is rising because the Fed is buying mortgage-backed securities that no one else wants, to keep interest rates artificially low. Cars are selling because government itself is buying record numbers of GM cars, and handing out billions in checks (welfare, food stamps, disability, and unemployment) to prop up consumer spending.
Take the government checks away and the economy collapses overnight...”
http://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2013/04/18/is-the-us-economy-on-the-verge-of-epic-collapse-n1570834/page/full
Let's see how many bit on your diversion? 'snicker'.
May 04th, 2013 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0bahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Oh yes....do not forget
Man never landed on the moon...too
JFK survived and lived on an island...too
I want a taco!
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