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Falklands/Gibraltar: Queen reaffirms protection and self determination of British Overseas Territories

Wednesday, May 8th 2013 - 16:28 UTC
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Britain reaffirmed on Wednesday that it will ensure and protect the right to the Falkland Islanders and Gibraltarians to determine their political futures. The strong message was included in HM Queen Elizabeth traditional annual address to Parliament setting out the legislative program for the government of PM David Cameron. Read full article

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  • mollymauk

    Further clarification of this policy from the official briefing notes to the Queen's Speech -
    “The Government is committed to the security of the Falkland Islands and to ensuring that the Islanders’ rights and wishes are respected.
    The referendum on 10-11th March, 2013 proved beyond doubt that the Islanders wish to remain a UK Overseas Territory in line with existing constitutional arrangements, with a 99.8% yes vote and a 92% turnout.
    The Government will continue to ensure that the Islanders are able to develop their economy, including oil exploration, without outside interference or harassment, and will rebut false Argentine rhetoric in whatever forum it emerges.”
    I sincerely hope that they will actively rebut the continual false history that is peddled by the Argentinean government.

    May 08th, 2013 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Rebut false Argentine rhetoric....LOL...translated
    Laugh at Argie lies.

    May 08th, 2013 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Devolverislas

    If the right to “determine their political futures” is an euphemism for the right to self-determination, the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas do not have it. The Gibraltarians, on the other hand, are in the happy position of having the same right. The distinction was established by General Assembly Resolutions 2065 (XX) and 2070 (XX).
    The former defines the Falkland Islanders as a “population”. The latter makes no such qualification of the term “countries and peoples”, as used in the United Nations Charter. Hence the Gibraltarians are deemed a “people”.

    It is lax of the British Government to so bundle the Falklands and Gibraltar together in the Queen's Speech.

    May 08th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    'The impression is that people who have been living under certain conditions should have access to certain level of capacities so that they can decide on their own future.' and 'I don't think Security Council members are violating 'relevant' UN resolutions.'

    Ban Ki-Moon 12th November 12 when being interviewed by Argentine newspaper Tiemp Argentino about the Falklands referendum.

    May 08th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @3

    You are a silly fellow. Taken from the UN Decolonization website.

    In a vast political reshaping of the world, more than 80 former colonies comprising some 750 million people have gained independence since the creation of the United Nations. At present, 16 Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) across the globe remain to be decolonized, home to nearly 2 million people. Thus, the process of decolonization is not complete. Finishing the job will require a continuing dialogue among the administering Powers, the Special Committee on Decolonization, and the PEOPLES of the territories, in accordance with the relevant UN resolutions on decolonization.

    PEOPLE'S of the 16 TERRITORIES.

    All PEOPLE'S HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION.

    It's very clear.

    May 08th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    very true,

    And CFK should respect this .

    May 08th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    @3 Devolverislas
    Have a read of the following...

    'Finally, it is argued that there is in fact no principle in International Law or UN doctrine that can displace the inalienable right to self-determination.[citation needed] In this regard, in 2008, the UN 4th Committee rejected the claim that a dispute over sovereignty affected self-determination, affirming it to be a basic human right.[27]'
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputed_status_of_Gibraltar

    May 08th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    #3 Piss off! You have been comprehensively defeated on every forum you have dripped your poison in. The British and the Falklanders have a real Queen, not the Botox variety bleeding away millions and trying to destroy the judiciary and democracy. The Queen has spoken, look busy... Idiot!

    May 08th, 2013 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Once again the brits make the argies look silly,

    they should listen to the truth,
    insted of being indocrinated..

    May 08th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/1413601-argentina-another-peso-devaluation-imminent

    May 08th, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    The photograph of the article, it her out of some queens cartoon for kids? Or is it a disguise so ridiculous?
    Not fair control access to immigrants in their own country “including deportation”, but illegal immigrants live in the Argentine Malvinas Islands.
    “...my government will promote economic growth, support free trade, tackle tax evasion and encourage greater transparency...”
    but if the rest of the “Empire” is formed not only by the Malvinas Argentinas, for all tax havens that exist in the world by the grace of the “civilized” England: Cayman Islands, Bahamas, etc.. etc. and nothing else, which are directed to those who have to “launder” money.

    May 08th, 2013 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Yes Josey, you will be on the first banana boat back home soon. No more Big Issue sales for you. The Argentina Malvinas Islands, where are they? And by the way, those offshore tax havens are where the Botox Queen, Tinman and Putrid Jelly are stashing their looted $. Close them down and they will be stuffed.
    There is only one ridiculous nation. To give you a clue it never pays its debts, lies and cheats at every opportunity, its riven by crime, inflation is out of control and it is descending into chaos. Any ideas?....

    May 08th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Filmus: QUEEN ELIZABETH NOT REALIZE THAT WE ARE IN THE XXI CENTURY - The senator from the Front for Victory Daniel Filmus responded to Queen Elizabeth II, who promised today in his speech to Parliament “protect the right of self-determination of the inhabitants of the Malvinas Islands”, and stated that the British sovereign “is not realize that we are in the XXI century ”.
    http://noticias.terra.com.ar/politica/filmus-la-reina-isabel-no-se-da-cuenta-que-estamos-en-el-siglo-xxi,6a39cd5db848e310VgnCLD2000000ec6eb0aRCRD.html

    'United States Congress pays tribute to Margaret Thatcher, a great friend of the United States'
    http://noticias.terra.com.ar/politica/filmus-la-reina-isabel-no-se-da-cuenta-que-estamos-en-el-siglo-xxi,6a39cd5db848e310VgnCLD2000000ec6eb0aRCRD.html

    'Falklands chief: Navy cuts will leave UK 'ripe for the taking' unless they are reversed - Sir Sandy Woodward said Britain would be left unable to defend its interests - UK could even lose permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council'
    http://noticias.terra.com.ar/politica/filmus-la-reina-isabel-no-se-da-cuenta-que-estamos-en-el-siglo-xxi,6a39cd5db848e310VgnCLD2000000ec6eb0aRCRD.html

    May 08th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @11 - Jose

    Aren't you glad you don't live in Argentina right now? The blue dollar is hovering at 10.45-1.

    But in regards to HM the Queen. She looks marvellous in her robes of state.

    Also you need to keep up with not so current events: The British Empire ceased to be (that means ended) after WWII.

    We now are a part of a Commonwealth of Nations, most of whom where former Empire members, but some of whom where not, and decided (that's self-determination) to join the Commonwealth.

    The fact that you always appear to harp on about the late British Empire makes me believe that you are green with envy of it, and the fact that Argentina will never have anything approaching such a great empire, no matter how much you try to steal land off all of your neighbours.

    The fact that protecting the Falklands and Gibraltar are in the Queen's speech is very important. That means it is now OFFICIAL government policy to protect these British Overseas Territories WHATEVER the cost.

    You have been warned.

    Have a nice day.

    May 08th, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    how long will it be
    before CFK complains to the UN.lol.

    May 08th, 2013 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Lep.

    Nice one! It is now certainly official policy. If they had any idea of how our democracy works, they would know it.

    Probably think HM goes through all this for the benefit of the tourists?

    May 08th, 2013 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3 It is lax of you to peddle your drivel. How many times do morons like you have to be TOLD that General Assembly resolutions are NON-BINDING. Is the concept too complex for you?
    @11 Why do you constantly refer to somewhere that doesn't exist? It's an indication of mental instability. Do you eat in argieland? Do you know that all “locally-produced” foodstuffs in argieland is contaminated with poisons? They cause birth defects, cancers and brain damage. How's your cancer? We can tell about the birth defect and the brain damage.

    May 08th, 2013 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    @José Malvinero here a new photo of The botox Queen.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=361519213969820&set=a.153884011400009.31266.153826968072380&type=1&ref=nf

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=361519213969820&set=a.153884011400009.31266.153826968072380&type=1&ref=nf

    May 08th, 2013 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    3 Devolverislas

    Unfortunately, for you General Assembly Resolutions are once again not binding international law. In fact such resolutions are ultra vires i.e. “beyond the powers”, as they violate the Charter guarantee of self-determination which is binding.

    May 08th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    Oh, of course! It is also its former colony Hong Kong whose “prosperity” is also due to the desire of England to bring “civilization” selflessly for the world.
    The drug and drug laundering there later the British did the opium war against the Chinese people. That is poison as many people as possible in order to enrich themselves.
    Until today there British HSBC (in the world)originating there, money laundering, fraud, ie the opposite of what you just said the little queen (with the speech they gave her ready). But we know from memory: all are the corrupt but “lords” English not. An entire nation of hypocrites and cynics.
    About the photo: so cold is spring in England to hang out with those gloves and the helmet?
    THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINES AND THE GEORGIAS AND SOUTH SANDWICH TOO.

    May 09th, 2013 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    @19 Terence Hill
    Yes but the RG's do not consider the 'population' of the Falklands as 'peoples' as per Article 1 of the UN Charter in the same way that they do not consider the 'wishes' of the 'population' to be the same as their 'interests' as per General Assembly Resolution 2065

    May 09th, 2013 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    21 Biguggy

    As I have posted here before, the Argentine Government by not legally challenging the Islander's right to hold a a referendum have legally endorsed their right by their own acquiescence. So what they consider is of zero consequence as that is just viewed as self-serving.

    May 09th, 2013 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    22 Terence Hill
    I have seen your other post which says the same.
    Could you quote a reference for that as it would make refuting similar RG claims so much easier.
    Thanks

    May 09th, 2013 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @18 andy65,
    Do you want to give me nightmares?
    Looking at her oogly dial certainly will!
    @20 José mal-de-dum-dum,
    What are Argentina's claims to South Georgia & the South Sandwich lslands?
    We found them before Argentina even existed & no Argentines have ever lived there.
    You cannot have them just because you want them.
    What are your reasons?

    May 09th, 2013 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pytangua

    I agree with the right to self-determination of peoples and understand that only when the Falkanders wish, should the territory be handed to Argentina. But there is a terrible hypocrisy in the UK position, which must annoy genuine Argentine nationalists - namely that this principled position was never applied to the inhabitants of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, who were summarily shipped away from the island to make way for a US military base, widely regarded as being central in the post-2001 'rendition' of suspected international terrorists. As British citizens, we must face up to the hypocrisy of our own successive governments on this issue because it does not help at all the argument for self-determination in the southern Atlantic.

    May 09th, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @25 - Pytangua

    Really, Diego Garcia? Bringing that up again? We've flogged that dead horse many times.

    Here is a brief summary.

    Diego Garcia has NO fresh water. Therefore it is impossible to live there without importing every drop you drink.

    When the plantation owners (not British by the way) abandoned the place, they left their workers to die. The British did move them off the islands because they would've ALL died. Or do you think the British should have left them all to die of thirst?

    The plantation workers didn't have the money to import their own water, so had to be moved. The British moved them to Maurtitius, and paid compensation to the plantation workers, via the Mauritian government. The Muaritian government pocketed the compensation payment themselves, leaving the plantation workers with nothing.

    The British then paid MORE compensation to the plantation workers directly.

    What is unfair about that? The land had never belonged to the workers. They had been abandoned and left to die by their former employers, and the British moved them to a safe place, where they could survive, and even paid them compensation (even though we actuall were not obliged to do so).

    Even if every single plantation worker was allowed back tomorrow, they'd be dead within a few weeks because there is still NO fresh water on the Islands.

    Try learning some facts about Diego Garcia first.

    May 09th, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Also. Self determination is the right to vote or participate in your own government. We did not take that away from them. Ethnic cleansing and self determination are different issues.. I don''t see how people confuse the two. Probably because Argentinians have no clue on what self determination is.

    May 09th, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Honi soit qui mal y pense!

    Philippe

    May 09th, 2013 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @3
    If the best you have is a dodgy interpretation of a 50 year old resolution which you yourselves broke by launching an undeclared and unprovoked war of aggression, while the SG himself is stating that the UK is in breach of no resolution, then it's surely time you admitted your UN strategy has failed.

    May 09th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    'It is also its former colony Hong Kong whose “prosperity” is also due to the desire of England to bring “civilization” selflessly for the world.'

    No, it's due to British having a laissez-faire policy in Hong Kong, which allowed it to prosper, and which China has sought to preserve since 1997. Hence the retention of the legal system and currency - neither of would have been allowed if Argentina had got its way in the Falklands in 1982.

    May 09th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (26) says.....:
    “Diego García has NO fresh water. Therefore it is impossible to live there without importing every drop you drink.”

    I say....:
    I strongly suspect that Turnip at (26) never has been in Diego García...
    I know I have never been in Diego García....
    But the guy below has...:
    http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/nature-flora.html

    Lots of fresh & free rain water in Diego García.....
    Do English turnips know what rain is?

    May 09th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    Malvinas Peoples:
    A million signatures for bilateral dialogue:

    Peoples Malvinas “seeks to give social depth of continental mass to the Cause Falklands.'s One million signatures will be presented to the UN Secretary General, looking” people fill the UN “to highlight the crisis of representation system this international organization, highly conditioned by geopolitical bids of the permanent members of the Security Council, especially the UK.'s one million signatures aims to create a political precedent in an international organization where ”people” does not take place, but whose decisions seriously affect their long-term collective future. Y Malvinas is a question of the future.

    See the following link:

    http://www.pueblospormalvinas.com

    http://www.pueblospormalvinas.com

    May 09th, 2013 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @31 - Think

    Why are you avoiding answering the question I posed on the other thread?

    Come on surely you can THINK your way out of looking completely stupid.

    @32 Raul

    Why don't you take it to the International Court of Justice, the ONLY body in the world that could ORDER the handover of the Islands to Argentina. But only if they found in your favour.

    You could send 44 million signatures to the UN but it still won't have the power to go against the UN Charter.

    Besides the UK could send 65 million signatures to back up our claims.

    Come on, if you're so convinced of your sovereignty claim then you would be desperate to go to the ICJ.

    But we all know that ALL Argentine claims are LIES. And when you lost, as you would, the entire world would know you for the LIARS that you are.

    And then it would be harder for you to maintain the delusion you have created for yourselves.

    Meanwhile, I'm sure dreaming about the Falklands will keep you warm, and feed you, and provide for you family....Oh wait it won't, and your government has been p!ssing all of your money away.

    Bye, bye Argentina.

    May 09th, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    BRITISH SUBMARINE DOCKS IN GIBRALTAR AFTER FIVE-YEAR BREAK

    The British military were out in force in Gibraltar yesterday
    Two Royal Air Force C-17 cargo planes were parked on the runway on undisclosed business
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=29172
    ,,,,,,,,,,,
    .

    May 09th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @34 - briton

    Perhaps HMS Talent will be 'cruising' around the South Atlantic for a spell too. LOL

    Perhaps TMBOA will start screeching and foaming at the mouth to anyone that can be bothered to listen.

    In the meantime, Britain's message to Spain and Argentina, is BEWARE, we are WATCHING you. :D

    May 09th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #20
    THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINES AND THE GEORGIAS AND SOUTH SANDWICH TOO.

    A bit of news just off the press in 1833 - no they are not !!!!!!

    May 09th, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    23 Biguggy
    It's a legal principle the effect of is to put up or shut up. It's not a sufficiency to issue public statements, if you don't use the courts you have no legal claim.

    legal acquiescence

    The common law doctrine of estoppel by acquiescence is applied when one party gives legal notice to a second party of a fact or claim, and the second party fails to challenge or refute that claim within a reasonable time. The second party is said to have acquiesced to the claim, and is estopped from later challenging it, or making a counterclaim.

    http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Estoppel_by_acquiescence
    http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Estoppel_by_acquiescence

    III. Scopes of acquiescence and recognition, and the materialisation of estoppel

    By either acquiescing in or recognising the otherwise illegal act of a State as in
    conformity with existing international law, the acquiescing or recognising State(s) are
    precluded from later denying the legality of such act.
    http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Estoppel_by_acquiescence

    32 Raul

    Make it 40 million it makes no difference it's a legal issue, therefor it doesn't lend itself to vox populi solutions.

    May 09th, 2013 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Our Queen has spoken, that is the end of the matter.

    May 09th, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    38

    For you, the “british” yes, because the little queen represents God on earth! Sure, after King Henry VIII syphilitic killed all her lovers, and crowned himself as God's representative.
    But as for us represents no one, ”the little queen spoke (or said what dictated) and the issue is NOT over.”

    May 10th, 2013 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @39 José Mal,
    You stated that South Georgia & the South Sandwich lslands belong to Argentina.
    Why do you say this?
    1) They were claimed by Britain before Argentina even existed.
    2) No Argentines have ever lived there.
    What is your proof.?
    What are your reasons?
    l'm sure that you are lying but l will give you space to explain to me why you think that these British territories belong to Argentina.
    We are waiting for your answer.
    Please do not disappoint me.

    May 10th, 2013 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #39
    If you want to post here, take a basic course in English.
    Your prose is confusing. The possessive pronoun “her” refers to females. His - refers to males. If you wish to quote English history, get it correct.
    Henry VIII had six wives, two of which were beheaded, not all, as you stated.
    As to the rest of your post, the same pitying puerile rubbish. We don't care what you or Argentina think. You are of no consequence.

    May 10th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    40 lsolde

    Don't hold your breath waiting, and should you get a response it will likely be one of two things:
    1. A pack of lies
    2. Some nonsense going off at a tangent.
    Both of which are the hallmark of a troll.

    May 10th, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    poor Jose malvinero.

    He thinks the issue isn't over...hahahahahahaha.

    Jose, the issue was over 30 years ago. In fact it was over about 32 years ago, when the islanders made it very clear that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES would they want to be under Argentine sovereignty.

    All that the Queen stated was that her armed forces would defend their right to choose.

    You tried 30 years ago with your rather pathetic armed forces to deny them that right, and you lost. Of course, at any time you could try again...the result would be even more catastrophic for you.

    you seem to be of the opinion that your bleating to the UN worries us, or Toni's silly little fires bothers anyone...it doesn't it just makes Argentina look pathetic (which of course they are).

    Now, one thing you can be certain of...is that in 200 years time, the FALKLANDS will still belong to the Islanders, they will be prosperous and safe.

    It is Argentinas decision whether they want to waste more of you tax dollars (peso will be gone soon) on shopping trips to New York, Geneva or wherever to continue the myth....it doesnt bother us, except give us amusement.

    However, were you to invade again, rest assured that the response would be swift and devastating.

    May 10th, 2013 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    40

    That the Malvinas are Argentine, everybody knows.
    Now you explain to me why the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands “are British”.
    That numbering is all they have to claim to be British???????!!

    May 10th, 2013 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    44 José Malvinero
    “That the Malvinas are Argentine, everybody knows.”
    Another RG lie, because there is at least one person, me, that knows otherwise.
    That makes you an RG liar!!!

    May 10th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Byron

    44. South Georgia was claimed for Britain, named and mapped in 1775 by Captain Cook . Argentina clearly accepts all this as it uses a hispanic version of our name for the island. I also understand you only got round to claiming the island in 1927, a bit late I'd say. Also when we claimed the South Sandwich islands in 1908 Argentina made no objection, only claiming them in 1938.

    As regards the Queen, well it's good to see you have developed a system of government better than our constitutional monarchy, get back to me when your parliament is 800 years old and your last dictator was 350 years ago.

    May 10th, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    44 José Malvinero
    Now you explain to me why the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands “are British
    NO NO

    You explain to us=
    Why you think they belong to Argentina,

    We await your answer,
    And no changy the subjected. .lol
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    May 10th, 2013 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @44 José Mal,
    1)
    The Falklands are NOT Argentine, as everybody except Argentines, know.
    lf you feel so strongly about it & have proof to back your claim, then take your case to the ICJ.
    Ask yourself, why has your country not done this?
    Could it be that they know that they haven't got a case?
    2)
    As l stated in post #40,
    South Georgia & the South Sandwich lslands were discovered & claimed by the British long, long before Argentina even existed & no Argentines have ever lived there.
    Once again, if you have proof that these islands belong to Argentina, then take your case to the ICJ.
    You have no proof, because they do not belong to you.
    Just because you were taught in school, that they do, doesn't make them yours.
    You were taught lies, by a government that thought that the UK was weak & you could take from us what you wanted.
    Wrong again. You cannot.
    Also take note of posts 45,46 & 47.
    l would like to hear your reasons for Argentine ownership of S.G. & the S.S.Is.
    Once again, l am awaiting your answer.
    Thank you.

    May 11th, 2013 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    Great Britain and its queen, country of shit:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJQp4yydxvc&feature=player_embedded

    May 12th, 2013 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    So there we have it folks,
    José Malvinero's logical & persuasive argument, offering incontestable proof that, in reality, South Georgia & the South Sandwich lslands actually belong to Argentina.
    Wow, José, why didn't you bring this up before?
    This is the most important piece of evidence that l've heard(apologies to the Queen of Hearts, in Alice in Wonderland).
    This completely blows our case out of the water. We had better evacuate immediately.
    José, you are a stupid moron.
    You have the reasoning of a retarded gnat.
    l'll bet it just eats you up, that your pathetic Army cannot conquer OUR land.
    You are a loser, boy.
    Don't come back again.
    Poltroon

    May 12th, 2013 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    49 José Malvinero (#)
    Great Britain and its queen, country truth tellers.

    Their you have it,???
    .

    May 12th, 2013 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @44

    “That the Malvinas are Argentine, everybody knows.”

    Who is 'everybody'?

    May 12th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    50

    In no way I intended in 49 was answer your question in 48 because anyone (much less a kelper or English) will force me to give an answer of some sort if I have not decided. Would I understand?
    Moreover, we know by heart are closed obsolutamente to change your mind about the sovereignty of the Malvinas Argentinas (that is historic) and is quite clearly demonstrates our titles Historical, Geographical and Legal. That is the reason that I do not fall into the trap of answering to a (or a) kelper jerk (or false kelper do not know what are).
    That is evident in the 48 point 1)
    Regarding the South Georgia Argentines and South Sandwich Argentines could fill data page reinvindican more than our sovereignty and not a European country 14,000 miles away. But to me, was not going to come to “rush” an idiot usurper.
    Finally, if you do not you know, it can not go to the International Court of Justice UNILATERAL. Both parties must agree to submit to common agreement that go to that Court. Which country usurper, never be accessed because he knows he lost. So better the end with that ridiculous accusation of refusing to go to the Court by the Argentina.
    The interesting thing, in case you did not notice, is that you acknowledge with that, that there are TWO parties to the conflict and not three. The Court can turn the two sides only.
    And my speech at number 49 has to do with your little queen of shit, totalitarian, that she not respects neither the International Court of Justice in Great Britain sentencing the return of the Chagossians, but she with a Letter Patent MEDIA AGE she prevented. Viva la self-determination!
    Chau, Cynics!

    May 12th, 2013 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    José,
    You are worse than a moron.
    And when you cannot answer, out come the insults.
    How very Argentine.
    lf we insult you, its because you started insulting us.
    You have no proof, you just thought that we are weak & bully that your country is, tried to steal our territory.
    Well, you'll never get OUR(i.e. NOT yours)land & its no use talking to you anymore.
    Ciao,
    P.S. You don't need us to do anything at the ICJ.
    If you feel that you have a case, you can take it there all by your own little self.
    What's the matter, señor? Scared?

    May 13th, 2013 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #53
    “and is quite clearly demonstrates our titles Historical, Geographical and Legal.” - which are zilch !

    The bottom line is that you don't have them and you will never have them.
    Keep up the verbiage and childish insults. We are grown-ups and used to dealing with unruly adolescents. It's water off a duck's back but at the same time amusing to realise your total impotence in this matter.

    May 13th, 2013 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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