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Falkland Island's self-determination: Queen out of touch with reality, says Argentina
“The Queen is not aware that we are in the XXIst century and she follows the colonialist tradition of the United Kingdom”, claimed Argentine Senator Daniel Filmus, the first reaction to the Queen’s strong message in support of the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar right to determine their political futures. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYou still talking bull shit Daniel filmus your beginning to sound as bitter as your beloved Botox queen
May 09th, 2013 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“F*** Y**,Argentina” says UK :)
May 09th, 2013 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a pretty girl you are
May 09th, 2013 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=198562473598829&set=a.153884011400009.31266.153826968072380&type=1&permPage=1
United Nations Charter, Article 1, paragraph 2 reads:
May 09th, 2013 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
Please read and understand 'self-determination' and that trumps any General Assembly Resolution, which by the way is not binding.
Lame brain!
What an arsehole. Still spouting the same old shit!
May 09th, 2013 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think his pants might actually be on fire.
May 09th, 2013 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0They certainly should be, he really is the most unbelievable liar. Almost everything in this rant is untrue,'territorial integrity', 'transplanted population', blah blah, 'British colonialism' blah blah, 'powerful military base'.
It's all complete bullshit.
And to cap it all the numpty is talking to the Queen like she actually wrote that speech.
The Queen's speech at the opening of parliament is written by the government of the day setting out its policy, you ignoramus.Thats how a constitutional monarchy works.
Is that - Senator Daniel Filmus with the Polish mother and Monorovian father ?? He appears to know the century - but does he know the time of day ?
May 09th, 2013 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0And how can the Falklands be an issue of territorial integrity when they were never a part of argentina's territory ??
http://www.scribd.com/doc/140113541/Falkland-Wars-British-Abandonment-in-1774-Fact-or-Myth
Senator who?
May 09th, 2013 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Queen remains faithful to UK colonialist history and tradition, she’s not aware we are in the XXIst century and times change”
May 09th, 2013 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0British people in general are not aware that they are XXIst century and their own history.
@9 We're all aware that you're a tedious bore.
May 09th, 2013 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0'having a powerful military base in a strategic zone of the South Atlantic; to take over rich natural resources in the region and to consolidate its pretensions over the Antarctic territory”'
May 09th, 2013 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't that what the RGs want?
I think she's has conciderable more experiance of the XXIst century than you Daniel.
May 09th, 2013 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0You still think it's 1833, and that Antoonio Riveiro ws something other than murdering scum.
“Queen out of touch with reality, says Argentina”
May 09th, 2013 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and KFC / The Botox Queen / TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / The Harpy has her finger RIGHT on the pulse of reality don't she?
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clown
TWIMC
May 09th, 2013 - 06:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Senator Filmus is a bit wrong when he says…:
“The Queen remains faithful to UK colonialist history and tradition..”
I say…:
The Queen is THE quintessential representative of English colonialist history and tradition…
Her GERMAN family has guided the English imperial tradition for the last four centuries…
A FAILED tradition, I’m happy to say…
A FAILEDtradition brought to its knees by people like Yank Washington, Canuck Papineau, Art Ó Gríobhtha, Kaffir Kenyatta, Hindu Gandhi and so many, many others….
Gibraltar and Malvinas are the last bad aftertaste of that FAILED tradition……
Get used to it; English Imperial Colonial Squatters in them Islands…..
I thought Queen sang “no escape from reality”
May 09th, 2013 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe I got it wrong ;-)
14 Think-me-not
May 09th, 2013 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still eating those sour grapes are we??
You should be careful, sweetheart, they give you a rotten stomach ache......
Anyway, to move on....... Don't you THINK that Senator Filmus's remarks smack of hypocracy?
@14 - Think
May 09th, 2013 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Think and his lack of grasp on reality, desperately trying to follow La Campora's instructions of: DEFLECT. DEFLECT. DEFLECT.
However, a little history lesson for you Think.
Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, is a DIRECT descendent of the 1st King of England, Alfred the Great. He was her 32nd Great Grandfather, and reigned from 871-899 AD.
What is also interesting is that Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II is also a DIRECT descendant of the 1st King of Scotland, Kenneth MacAlpin. He was her 33rd Great Grandfather, and reigned from 834-837 AD.
What does this tell us? Well it tells us that Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is the true and native heir to the Crowns of England and Scotland.
As for failed, you are projecting again. The only failure here is Argentina. Made to fail yet again by your corrupt politicians who are too busy stuffing their bank accounts with the money belonging to the people of Argentina, instead of doing the job they were elected to do.
Argentina will remain a failure until you tackle the root of the problem, corruption and the Argentine publics apparent apathy towards it.
Tell me Think, aren't you glad that you don't live in Argentina right now?
@9 Marcos
May 09th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0What does that even mean? We hosted the Olympics in 2012, we host the G8 next - we are very well aware what century it is and are already playing our part.
We also know our history, both the good and the bad. In contrast, do you know about the agreement your country signed with mine in 1850?
TWIMC
May 09th, 2013 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0From the top of my head
The ”Windsor’s” bloodline (last 300 years):
1) German born King Georg I von Braunschweig und Lüneburg ascended the British throne in 1714
He and his German wife Sophia von Braunschweig fathered:
2) German born King Georg II von Braunschweig und Lüneburg who ascended the British throne in 1727
He and his German wife Caroline von Brandenburg fathered:
German born Friedrich von Hannover who died before he could ascend the throne. He and his German wife Augusta von Sachsen-Gotha fathered:
3) King Georg III who ascended the British throne in 1760
He and his German wife Sophie Herzogin zu Mecklenburg fathered:
4) King Georg IV who ascended the British throne in 1820
Succeeded by his brother:
5) King Wilhelm IV who ascended the British throne in 1830
For reasons of public knowledge he was succeeded by:
6) Queen Victoria, who ascended the British throne in 1837
A lady of pure German origin, daughter of Eduard (third son of King Georg III) and his German wife Marie Viktoria von Sachsen-Coburg.
She and hers German husband (and cousin), Franz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha fathered..:
7) King Albert Eduard VII who ascended the British throne in 1901
He and his Danish (of purest German bloodline) wife, Princess Alexandra Caroline fathered:
8) King Georg V who ascended the British throne in 1910
He and his (mostly) German wife Victoria von Teck fathered:
9) King Eduard the VIII………., hastily replaced by:
10) King Georg VII who ascended the British throne in 1936
He and his wife, Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (finally, some native blood!) fathered:
11) Queen Elizabeth II who ascended the British throne in 1952
She and her Danish (German, really) husband, Prince Phillip Battenberg (later, Mountbatten) fathered:
Charles, Prince of Wales
The rest; you surely know from the tabloids.......
18 Redrow
May 09th, 2013 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you mean that one that says
“of putting an end to the existing differences”?
The whole thing is here:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1850_Convention_of_Settlement
I think the RG's would like to forget about that one, you know just ignore it the same as they did with Security Council Resolution 502, the one that DEMANDED that Argentina withdrawal its forces IMMEDIATELY from the Falkland Islands.
Bottom line, you cannot trust the RG's, be it to pay their debts or otherwise keep their word.
@19 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0And what does this all mean? The Queen had ancestors that you are more obsessed about than we are. Perhaps you wept for days when Diana died?
If only you knew as much about your own country's history than you do about our royal family then it would help you come to terms with the fact that the Falklands are not now and will never be Argentine. Then we can all be friends again as we were before Peron.
XX Century reality, you lost!
May 09th, 2013 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0XXI Century reality, you still lost!
XXII Century reality you will still have lost!
Now get over it.
Margaret Thatcher, and now Elizabeth II, hurts doesn't it when all you have is Botox Turkey Neck, Tinman and Putrid Jelly to look up to...?
May 09th, 2013 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Britain is a colonialist country why, more than fifty years ago, did it start to dismantle the British Empire? If Britain continues to be a colonialist country, as this Argentine legislator alleges, why do its former dominions and colonies belong the the Commonwealth of Nations and acknowledge H.M. The Queen to be its head.
May 09th, 2013 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is Filmus able to give us an explanation as to why great nations such as Canada, Australia, Pakistan, India and South Africa together with several other countries which were never part of the British Empire are members of the Commonwealth?
(21) Redrow
May 09th, 2013 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Precisely because I know more about my own Country's history than I do about your, quite irrelevant but entertaining, German English Royal Family; I (as most of the New Thinkers of Argentina) am not the least interested in rekindling any aspect of that Imperial One-Sided Advantageous kind of “Friendship” we had with England before President Peron……
On the other hand……, an offer of “Friendship” based on mutual respect would not be frowned upon…..
Filmus “the Falklands is a case of territorial integrity as set out by UN Resolutions”
May 09th, 2013 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0LIE....no such resolution exists.
Filmus “self-determination doesn't count for the Falklands because it is a transplanted population”
LIE...self determination is a fundamental right of all people's, and the Falkland Islanders are less a transplanted population than Argentina is.
Filmus “ UN resolution 2065 demands bi-lateral negotiations to resolve the illegal occupation of the islands”
LIE...2065 does no such thing, it suggests (not demands) a peaceful solution should be found taking into account the UN Charter (self-determination) and the interests of the islanders (to stay British Overseas terriitory).
Filmus “No UN resolution concerning the Falklands mentions self-determination”
LIE..They ALL say the solution should respect the UN charter which has the fundamental right to all people to self-determination.
Filmus “nothing has changed since 2065”
LIE... There is the Argentine invasion of the islands, the death of 900 people, and the Republic of Argentina ignoring the BINDING resolution of the UN Security Council, and war crimes perpetrated by Argentina.
Filmus “Britains true reasons for the Falklands is to develop a military base and exploit the natural resources”
LIE: Britain has no claim on the resources at all, the licences and taxation are the responsibility of the FIG. Britain would have no military presence in the region if it wasn't for the Argentine threat.
There you go Daniel...6 lies in six statements...what a Cupid stunt .
@25 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0You want respect as well as friendship! Jeez, throw me a bone here!
Tough titty falkands are staying how they are until the islanders say diffrent nd argentina can rage all you like. Your failed military adventure defines you to the uk its something tat happened 30 years ago.
May 09th, 2013 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think, old chap.
May 09th, 2013 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0We've been through all this before, you were proved wrong then & you are wrong now.
The Queen is descended from many families(as we all are, even you!), so what if she has German blood?
Many of us have you know, despite what idiots like DanyBerger says.
We have a perfect right to these lslands & you DONOT!
And we are NOT going to give OUR lslands to anyone, especially not a failed rogue state like Argentina.
So dry your eyes Princessa & try to improve what you do have.
lts more than you deserve anyway, Argentina stole most of its territory from its neighbours.
Just be thankful that we don't side with Chile, Uruguay & Paraguay & force Argentina to disgorge its ill-gotten gains.
(actually that's not such a bad idea, afterall!).(l'm not sure about what you stole from Uruguay, but there's bound to be something that we can ferret out!)
Argentina is just too untrustworthy NOT to have stolen something from them.
We will never “respect” you or your silly country, Think, when you continually act like bullies & spoilt children.
And there you have it, oh haughty one.
Seriously who cares what this muppet thinks, on the face of it nothing has changed on the British position, in fact that's not changed for 180 years, some people are just plain stupid, I mean 180 years you would think they would get it by now.
May 09th, 2013 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina could not organise a coffee morning so we have very little to fear tbh.
What is interesting to me is that of course politicians all round the world use rhetoric, “slight of hand”, exaggeration, and misleading statistics to try and win political arguments.
May 09th, 2013 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Heck, Ed Balls talks so much shit it is quite gobsmacking, but these Argie politicians don't bother with any of that.
They just blatantly,and barefaced lie, and clearly there is a significant proportion of the Argentine population who either support such behaviour, are apathetic to it, or perhaps are too stupid to see it.
My feeling is that it is a mixture of support and stupidity.
Proper pariah state stuff...and hilarious to watch.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT , SENATOR DANIEL FILMUS WITH A POLISH
May 09th, 2013 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0MOTHER AND A MONROVIAN FATHER, BELONGS TO THE 95% OF THE
ARGENTINIAN POPULATION WHICH IS TO BE CONSIDERED AS
IMPLANTED.
SO PLEASE STOP USING THIS RIDICULOUS TERM WHEN REFERING
TO THE CITIZENS OF THE FALKLAND ISLANDS!
@19 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you know so much about the provenance of the British royal family why do you seem to be quite unable to get their names right? Who was King Albert Eduard VII? Who was King George VII? King Wilhelm IV? And all those Kings Georg - totally unknown to the British people!
He's a twat really and shows little knowledge concerning the UK Monarchy or he would leave the Queen well alone.
May 09th, 2013 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0All this will achieve is to galvanise more loyalist support for her and through that, the Falkland Islanders.
Rule 1 International Relations with UK, “stay well away from their monarchy.”
Another spectacular own goal, must be getting his advise from an expert, my bet is on Titmann.
@25 Think:
May 09th, 2013 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0El capitano, mercopress's new conq will be along shortly to let you know exactly what the old seadog 'Thinks' of your friendship!!!!!!!!!!
@ Think and Marcos Alejandro The sad thing about you two parasites is simply this
May 09th, 2013 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0ARGENTINA IS NOT A GOOD ENOUGH COUNTRY FOR EITHER OF YOU TO LIVE IN
That's why your both squatting in Northern Europe in hope of a better life, so if your so passionate about your dear lady botox queen take your nasty asses back to south America and suffer with the rest of Argentines we are more than comfortable with our history pity the same can not be said about you two
Her GERMAN family has guided the English imperial tradition for the last four centuries…
May 09th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I always thought that the Queen's mother was from a Scottish family - that makes her ONLY 50% German. Do your homework before posting more bullshit.
Your Argentinian politicians are a bunch of mongrels -even your beloved queen - witha small q.
Poor demented argies. Ruled by a provably corrupt dictatorship. Of which the mouthy ex-pat bloggers that come on here, whilst residing in and receiving the benefits of the nations they “say” they despise, are but a small part.
May 09th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's take a look @9. A numpty that relies for his viewpoint on a discredited religious pronouncement of the XVth century, lies from the XIXth century, aggression from the XXth century and bluster from the XXIst. A distinct no-hoper.
But, even better, is the imbecile @14 who, apparently, can't grasp that we, in the UK, together with 15 other sovereign states, their territories and dependencies, choose to have Queen Elizabeth II as our constitutional monarch and Head of State. That's more people than CFK would be able to shake a stick at. We all know about Washington. A rebel who was helped into power by the French, Spanish and Dutch, for their own purposes. Funny how they lost more than they gained. Papineau, of course, failed. Kenyatta we know about. The supposedly educated, intelligent, Communist terrorist. Well-known for banning the only other political party in Kenya.
How strange that countries who never had any connection with colonialist, imperialist Britain have decided to join the Commonwealth. Whilst some who did have decided enthusiastically to remain with the UK. Is there a bad aftertaste? Yes, there is. In the mouths of FAILED, ROGUE, CORRUPT, CRIMINAL “states” like argieland who are totally INCAPABLE of getting even close to British achievements. But at least there are some things we can say. We look after our own and those that depend on us. Unlike argieland, that murders its “own”. We are still a viable nation. Unlike argieland, with more debts, adverse court judgements and history of deceit and bad faith than anywhere else in the world. A “nice” history really. Unlike that of argieland that ought to make every argie cringe in shame. If they even knew what shame is!
@37 - Clyde15
May 09th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I always thought that the Queen's mother was from a Scottish family - that makes her ONLY 50% German.”
Her father was English, so that make's her 50% English, and 50% Scottish, which is nice considering she's a direct descenant of both countries 1st Kings.
Also her Paternal Granfather was English, and her Paternal Grandmother was German.
Think. Try 'Thinking' about this!
The question then should be, how long do you or your ancestors have to have lived in a country to be considered that nationality?
1 generation? 2 generations? 3? 4? 8? 10 generations? Or how about 35 generations spanning nearly 1,500 years? King Alfred the Great 32nd Great Grandfather, King Kenneth MacAlpin 33rd Great Grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II.
I'm English, but my mother is Irish and my father is of Italian descent. Does that mean I'm not English? Or British, despite the fact that I was born in this country and have citizenship?
If you consider Her Majesty not to be British, even though she can trace her ancestors back nearly 1,500 years, that also means that no one who lives in Argentina is Argentinian (probably why most of them have dual nationality), so don't have a leg to stand on claiming anything.
Poor Think. Desperately trolling for a doomed self-destructive country. Jealous of the success the UK has had throughout its history, and all you can do is lash out with pathetic statements. It is really quite entertaining.
By the way, by putting the right to self-determination for the Falklands and Gibraltar into the Queen's Speech means that it is now OFFICIAL government policy to protect these rights, and the people to who they apply, with any and ALL means at our disposal.
The UK won't start any wars over this, but we will finish them.
(27) Redrow
May 09th, 2013 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say….:
”You want respect as well as friendship! Jeez, throw me a bone here!”
I say…:
From where in..: ”An offer of “Friendship” based on mutual respect would not be frowned upon” do you infer that any of us ”WANT” your friendship or your respect?
Throw me a bone here…………...
(29) lsolde, young bint….
You say...:
“The Queen is descended from many families (as we all are, even you!), so what if she has German blood?”
I say...:
The Queen descends from a Chimp who in turn descends from an Amoeba….. (If you accept as true the theory of that excellent English Spy and Scientist, Mr. Charles Darwin.)
The last 300 years of her clan's history are of pure, unaltered Teutonic blood, though......
That must certainly amount for something….
Her grandsons’ drag to German uniforms, perhaps….. ;-)
Turnip Gordo1 asks at (33)…:
”Think, if you know so much about the provenance of the British royal family why do you seem to be quite unable to get their names right? Who was King Albert Eduard VII? Who was King George VII? King Wilhelm IV? And all those Kings Georg - totally unknown to the British people!
I say….:
Well….
Those were their proper German names….
Given to them at birth, by their loving German parents…..
(37) Clyde15
You say..:
I always thought that the Queen's mother was from a Scottish family - that makes her ONLY 50% German. Do your homework before posting more bullshit.
I say….:
Yes…., Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon….., as I wrote in my post (19)….:
”10) King Georg VII who ascended the British throne in 1936
He and his wife, Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (finally, some native blood!)…..”
A little “Faux Pas”, hastily remediated by HRH Queen Elizabeth II by marrying Good Ol’ German Prince Phillip Battenberg …….
Chuckle chuckle©
Just a small point for Thinkduhhh.
May 09th, 2013 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0When George 1st became King of Britain (etc) in 1714 he was Elector of Hanover, an independent state. There was no such country as Germany until 1871 which was even after the death of that other 'German' Prince Albert who was born in the Duchy of Saxony another independent state at the time.
To call these people 'German' was aas offensive to them as you referring to Jomo Kenyatta (convicted terrorist and future dictator as he was) as 'Kaffir' which in Africa is a hugely insulting word a bit like calling a Falkland Islander an Argentine.
Quite clearly Thinkduhhh your knowledge of European history is a s limited as your knowledge of the history of Argentina
Marco- do please get the list of these International Laws etc from you plonker Filmus and list them on here.
May 09th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think - typical colonial mentality of Latin Americam male chauvenism to only look at the male side of a family tree!
And WHO is not in the XX1st century?
Self determination...argies can't even determine what they want to do with their own money. A concept not understood in this country.
May 09th, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think forgets all the Georges were descended from James the first via his daughter Elizabeth
May 09th, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Think,so when are you going to tell us why you find Northern Europe a better place to live than Argentina?? we all know the answer but it would be so much sweeter coming from your lips.
May 09th, 2013 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filmus is clearly out of touch. The Queen, having been on the throne for 65 years, has seen it all and been fully briefed on the activities of Argentina. Her country and her subjects and her territory are threatened by the insidious activities of the argentine government and the state sponsored activities of certain subjects. When he is long gone, our monarchy will endure and the falklands will remain british as long as they want us. Should they become independent, we will protect them.
May 09th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(42) Islander1
May 09th, 2013 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say…:
”Think - typical colonial mentality of Latin American male chauvinism to only look at the male side of a family tree!”
I say….:
What are you talking about?
I mention ALL the loving German moms at (19)
From the top of my head….:
Sophia von Braunschweig, loving German mom….
Caroline von Brandenburg, loving German mom….
Augusta von Sachsen-Gotha, loving German mom….
Sophie zu Mecklenburg, loving German mom….
Marie Viktoria von Sachsen-Coburg, loving German mom…
Franz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha, loving German husband of Queen Victoria and dad…..
Alexandra Caroline, loving Danish (of purest German bloodline) mom…
Victoria von Teck, loving German mom…
Elizabeth Bowes, loving English mom… (Every family has a ”black sheeep;-)
Phillip Battenberg, loving Danish (of purest German bloodline) husband of Queen Elizabeth II and dad….
@ Think, you forget to mention Kirchner = evil bitch
May 09th, 2013 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does this person, who seems to have risen like flatulence in a bath, not know that the Queen is a constitutional monarch and that she speaks on the 'advice' of her ministers? The Queen, who has been on her throne longer than he has been alive, and counts Churchill amongst her former Prime Ministers, should be an object of gratitude for this person, as her Armed Forces defeated the Junta that might well have got round to murdering or torturing him had they not been defeated in 1982, a defeat which also prevented a potentially ruinous war with Chile from taking place.
May 09th, 2013 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And he should remember that Britannia has a Trident.
Argentines remind me of scabies itchy irritable little things thogh I am not speaking from experience ofcourse.
May 09th, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina out of touch with reality (as usual).
May 09th, 2013 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, you get the politcians you deserve.
#52
May 09th, 2013 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No point pursuing this with people like “think”
You need a pneumatic drill with a diamond tip to get anything into the block of concrete that passes for his brain.
Remember, his only purpose is to try and wind up his “opposition”, not to say anything that equates with the truth.
47 Think- and as you point out Queen Elizabeth,s blood is 50% British! Probabaly more if you follow back her fathers side as for generations the European Monarchy have intermarried across Europe.
May 09th, 2013 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Thinkduhhh no comment about me pointing out that Germany didn't exist before 1871 so all the George's, no matter what their names, couldn't be German.
May 09th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mind you Kirchner sounds a bit Germanic or should I say Teutonic?
TWIMC
May 09th, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Curious people them Engländer......
They proudly “flash about” their ruling German Royal Family....
But when somebody comments positively on their Teutonic Royals, they get all embarrassed...
@Think, We British are comfortable with our history but I notice you never tell all why you find it better living in Northern Europe than Argentina or was living on less than $7 per day just to unbearable or did you have something to do with THE DISSAPEARED???
May 09th, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think is always good value for a laugh.
May 09th, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Using his thought process about the British Royal Family he should apply it to Argentina. In that case only 3% of the population are Argentine the rest, including CF and the Pope, are well................not!
TWIMC
May 09th, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Curious people them Engländer......
They proudly “flash about” their ruling German Royal Family....
But when somebody comments positively on their Teutonic Royals, they get all embarrassed............................ almost ashamed.
58 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear me no, you are quite misunderstanding the source of the embarassment. Nobody cares where the Royal family's ancestors came from. We're just embarrassed for you really. And waiting to see where you're going with this. The next queen of the Netherlands will be half Argentine. Therefore hardly Dutch at all.
I'm sure you'll allow us to feel a little distaste for an Argentine of European descent talking about someone else's racial purity.
Anyway, most of us are Germans if you go back far enough, and we have a lot to thank our Anglo Saxon heritage for. They gave us most of our best words, for a start, like sod, crap, c***, tw** well, can't use them on a family show, but you get my drift.
(59) Monty96
May 09th, 2013 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Anyway, most of us are Germans if you go back far enough...”
I say…:
No, you are not….,
Your Royals are, indeed, but the rest of you English are the half-blood sub-product of my Teuton, Anglii and Saxon ancestors’ playful, inquisitive & touristic nature...;-)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Roman_Empire_125.png
@ Think
May 09th, 2013 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the life of me I have no clue what you are on about. The British are a mix of all sorts, we consist of 4 constituent countries with all sorts of ethnic influences, both recent and ancient. That our royal family reflects this NW European mix seems perfectly appropriate. This is not something we are even remotely touchy about. I can only surmise that Argentines ARE delicate about their ancestry.
What a Boring Man!!!
May 09th, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh look Think is getting desperate.
May 09th, 2013 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DISTRACT, DISTRACT, DISTRACT! Says his La Campora masters.
And this is all he can come up with?
Poor Think, who cannot THINK at all.
By the way constantly posting the same thing means you know you have lost your so-called argument.
God Save the Queen! Long May She Reign.
I would ask God to save Argentina too, but some things are too hard to do. Remember Think, the Lord helps those who help themselves.
Argentina won't help itself, so the Lord won't help you.
It's really lucky that you don't live in Argentina, isn't it?
Art Ó Gríobhtha
May 09th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's Arthur Griffith, who advocated a personal union between Ireland and Britain, in which the British monarch would also be the Irish one. At least the Irish had the good sense to retain the parliamentary system, with a President as ceremonial head of state, rather than a tinpot Latin American-style presidential one.
Somebody remind Think to double-check he is logged in to the correct account when he is posting ;-0
May 09th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile /em Yawn.
same-oh, same-oh from CFKs mobsters... they are on their way out and know it, so talk is cheap and, lets face facts, nobody is listening to them, not UNASUR, not the UN and not even the Pope...
poor little CFK lambykins is all awone in lil ol Argentina....
(61) Redrow
May 09th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the life of me...... how could I ever misinterpret the English soul soooo badly?
For the life of me...... how could I ever think that your almost 100% German Royal Family isn't perfectly appropriate for the English people?
For the life of me...... how could I ever imagine that any Englishman, woman or child could be remotely touchy about it?
Thanks for opening my eyes.......
Now, give us our Malvinas back and the first round is on me......
@66 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have deliberately avoided the question I asked YOU at post 39.
Here it is again, since you keep avoiding answering it:
How long do you or your ancestors have to have lived in a country to be considered that nationality?
1 generation? 2 generations? 3? 4? 8? 10 generations? Or how about 35 generations spanning nearly 1,500 years? King Alfred the Great 32nd Great Grandfather, King Kenneth MacAlpin 33rd Great Grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II.
Come on, Think, answer the question. Unless that much 'thinking' would overheat your brain.
Answer the question.
We're waiting....
29 Argentina stole Buenos Aires from Uruguay
May 09th, 2013 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@55 Thinkduhhhh
May 09th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong again dumbo - I'm not British
@66 - Think
May 09th, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We're still waiting on your answer. Can't you THINK of one that won't make you look completely stupid?
@ 40 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Turnip Gordo1 asks at (33)…:
”Think, if you know so much about the provenance of the British royal family why do you seem to be quite unable to get their names right? Who was King Albert Eduard VII? Who was King George VII? King Wilhelm IV? And all those Kings Georg - totally unknown to the British people!
I say….:
Well….
Those were their proper German names….
Given to them at birth, by their loving German parents…..“
There never has been a George VII and have you seen there birth certificates which enables you to say with such determination that there were christened and registered with non-English names?
Thank you for the ”turnip“, by the way! If we are descending into that level then I'll bid you farewell, ”cabbage”!
@66 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We're still waiting for you to answer the question. Here it is again just in case you've forgotten it.
How long do you or your ancestors have to have lived in a country to be considered that nationality?
1 generation? 2 generations? 3? 4? 8? 10 generations? Or how about 35 generations spanning nearly 1,500 years? King Alfred the Great 32nd Great Grandfather, King Kenneth MacAlpin 33rd Great Grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II.
Come on, try and THINK of an answer.
Excellent response from Daniel Filmus.
May 09th, 2013 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The specificity of the Malvinas Question is that the United Kingdom occupied the islands by force in 1833, expelled the original population and did not allow their return, thus violating the territorial integrity of Argentina. Is ruled out then the possibility of applying the principle of self-determination, as its exercise by the islanders, cause the “disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity” of Argentina. In this regard it should be noted that Resolution 1514 (XV) “Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples” states in paragraph six that “Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the United Nations Charter ”.
Mlavinas Peoples:
A million signatures for bilateral dialogue:
Peoples Malvinas “seeks to give social depth of continental mass to the Cause Falklands.'s One million signatures will be presented to the UN Secretary General, looking” people fill the UN “to highlight the crisis of representation system this international organization, highly conditioned by geopolitical bids of the permanent members of the Security Council, especially the UK.'s one million signatures aims to create a political precedent in an international organization where ”people” does not take place, but whose decisions seriously affect their long-term collective future. Y Malvinas is a question of the future.
See the following link:
http://www.pueblospormalvinas.com
http://www.pueblospormalvinas.com
@66 Think
May 09th, 2013 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not English so I can absolutely guarantee that I'm not bothered by your England-bothering. As for “giving you your Malvinas back” this would be impossible for 3 well-documented reasons: 1) there are no Malvinas, 2) they were never Argentine and so can't be given BACK, and 3) it's not up to the Brits to give the Falklands to anyone - that's up to the Falkland Islanders to decide. Your Foreign Minister had the opportunity to discuss this with them recently but he declined. So I'm not sure what else to suggest, I guess you'll just have to get over it and move on.
@73 - Raul
May 09th, 2013 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you're so sure of your sovereignty claim, then why don't you take it to the International Court of Justice?
Well we actually know why you won't is because ALL of your claims are LIES. I know it, you know it, the Argentine government knows it, and quite frankly the rest of the world is rapidly beginning to know it (thanks to the Cristina and Hector double act).
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Think I'm still WAITING for you to ANSWER my question.
Come on, King of the Turnips, surely you can THINK of an answer that won't make you look completely stupid?
‘“The Queen is not aware that we are in the XXIst century
May 09th, 2013 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and she follows the colonialist tradition of the United Kingdom”,
claimed Argentine Senator Daniel Filmus,
the first reaction to the Queen’s strong message in support of the Falkland Islands' and Gibraltar's
right to determine their political futures.’
The British Queen has presided over the dismantling of the biggest empire the world has ever seen. This was never going to be an easy or pain-free process; neither was it for any of the world’s great empires.
It does, however, give her more experience of decolonization and national transitions than anybody else in the whole world.
So when she speaks to Protectorates about her nations’ support for their self-determination, she speaks with experience as well as authority.
It really doesn’t matter about the genetic mix of the royal families of the UK, of Europe and beyond … all that is ‘puff’.
What matters are her statements supporting the right of the populations of these far-flung and tiny outposts.
#73
May 09th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The specificity of the Malvinas Question is that the United Kingdom occupied the islands by force in 1833, expelled the original population ....etc
Same indoctrinated bullshit lies.
Peoples Malvinas “seeks to give social depth of continental mass to the Cause Falklands.'s One million signatures will be presented to the UN Secretary General,blah, blah. This is practically incomprehensible as the English does not make sense.
Maybe we in the UK should get 50,000,000 signatures on a petition and present that to the UN claiming harassment and interference by Argentina by trying to illegally claim title to the Falklands.
@72 Think will obviously deflect till the cows come in but he probably “thinks” it's one generation in argentina but never elsewhere.
May 09th, 2013 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well Argentina clearly doesn't understand how British parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy works!
May 09th, 2013 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Queen” our head of state officially has no opinion! The Queens speech is written by her democratically elected government for the government and the people! The Queens speech is purely the Royal stamp of approval for policy laid out by a democratically elected parliamentary government!
Well considering they were a dictatorship that dropped people out of aeroplanes not that long ago it might be difficult for them to understand!
He seems to have the looks, demeanor and rhetoric of a rambling drunkard trying to sleep on a park bench.
May 09th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN charter refers to self determination of all peoples, you illiterate turd.
To read the posts (and I use that world jokingly) of The Biggest Liar On MP you would 'Think' he knew what he was going on about.
May 09th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But no. No chance of the truth from that 'mouth' only lies.
And for me, a barrel of laughs. Almost as good as his ‘Pilots Watch’. What a worzel.
Whilst on the subject of monarchy. The last dictator we had took the head of a King.
May 09th, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of theirs was know for giving it back!!! They even built a mausoleum for her!
Sorry to change subject but here's a photo of dirty Toni Lopez (he's still wearing the same clothes as last week) on his weekly protest against the LAN flight,it seems the protest as now dropped down to 4 people all dirty looking what a disgrace.
May 09th, 2013 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=564514720267471&set=a.495477257171218.122684.495471120505165&type=1&theater
Think
May 09th, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”From the top of my head
The ”Windsor’s” bloodline (last 300 years):“
”From the top of my head... ”
LOL!!!!!
84 Troy Tempest
May 09th, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I thought that and then I realized he doesn't know his head from his cuelo.
Easy mistake for The Biggest Liar On MP to make.
@83 - andy65
May 09th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least the flag they're burning looks slightly better quality than the last one.
Also the policeman just looks embarrassed to be there. LOL
@ LEPRecon They look a dirty bunch all 4 of them LOL LAN must be worried.
May 09th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(76) GeoffWard2
May 09th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“The British Queen has presided over the dismantling of the biggest empire the world has ever seen.”
I say...:
And she ain't finish yet?
So much for German efficiency :-)))
@88 - Think
May 09th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you avoid answering my question?
Are you afraid that you will make yourself look even more stupid than normal?
Come on, coward, answer this little question:
The question then should be, how long do you or your ancestors have to have lived in a country to be considered that nationality?
1 generation? 2 generations? 3? 4? 8? 10 generations? Or how about 35 generations spanning nearly 1,500 years? King Alfred the Great 32nd Great Grandfather, King Kenneth MacAlpin 33rd Great Grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II.
It's not rocket science. Why don't you turn your turnipy brain towards answering it.
Come on Think, answer the question.
We're all waiting.
@ Think, If your botox Queen was admired and liked as much as Queen Elizabeth is then you could come and talk as much shit as you like but as a squatter in Northern Europe I am surprised you are so supportive of a country you find not fit enough to live in you sad little man.
May 09th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear dick heads.
May 09th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The address for the state opening of parliament is not written by the queen.
God save the queen.
Argentine Senator Daniel Filmus
May 09th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is you and CFK and your government and you indocronoughts that are out of touch with the world,
You live totally in your own little world,
So stop being cowards and either back it up,
Or Soddy offy..
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@MrFlagpole, you have to excuse these Argentine idiots they have only ever been use to dictators they would not understand what a constitutional Monarchy is and that she is reading the words of her Prime minister
May 09th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's just another deluded Argentine politician who has heard the lies so many times said by his own countrymen he now most likely actually believes it.
May 09th, 2013 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which international law supports Argentina's position? Resolution 2065 has expired and was violated by Argentina with its illegal invasion. Not to mention resolution 2065 really doesn't support Argentina's position which they so often claim it does.
No wonder Argentina is in such a terrible state when you have people like this in power.
He's such a joke, I laughed at his statements.
Poor Think. Desperate to DISTRACT, DISTRACT, DISTRACT from the abject failures of Argentina
May 09th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And too afraid to answer a simple question.
Just out of interest,
May 09th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does this mean that the descendants of British people living in Argentina do not exist?
.
73 Raul
May 09th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only people whose futures depend on this are ours, Falkland Islanders.
You may well be able to find a million people who would like to disenfranchise us, but that doesn't make it right and it doesn't mean it's going to happen.
An that dull repetitive straw man argument about 'territorial integrity' doesn't become true because you keep saying it. The inhabitants of 1833 weren't 'original', they weren't 'expelled', and the Falklands were not an 'integral part of your territory'. It simply isn't true. Getting people to disagree with something that never happened does not advance your cause.
@ Raul why the hell do you think 1 million signatures of brainwashed people fed lies since an early age will make any difference??? Kirchner and her cronies needs to concentrate on dragging Argentina from the toilet pan.
May 09th, 2013 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Think.
May 09th, 2013 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Off your game a little lately. Almost enough to feel sorry for you.
I see your post 19 that was “from the top of your head” was actually a cut and paste job from March 24th
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/22/on-18-september-2014-scotland-will-decide-if-it-wants-to-become-an-independent-country#comment231557
See my reply that again highlighted your woeful inability to be effective.:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/22/on-18-september-2014-scotland-will-decide-if-it-wants-to-become-an-independent-country#comment231557
Racial purity seem like a topic very close to your heart.
Has no one informed this blockhead Filmus that the Secretary General of the United Nations has stated:
May 09th, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0““I don’t think Security Council members are violating relevant UN resolutions. ” That means, to me anyway, that non binding General Assembly resolution 2065 is not, in the opinion of Mr Ban Ki-moon, 'relevant'! What more does he want, drop it, it is dead.
Raul- now look - read this and answer it with your evidence - or go away and never again utter a word on mercopress:
May 09th, 2013 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please NAME the CIVILIANS who were NOT “family” of the Military garrison from the UP who were expelled as you claim . Only the militia
and their families were.
Please do this - or shut up for ever more.
I can name you the 2 civiliacouples who left of their own free will.
I can also give you the names of the civilains who STAYED behind.
I can even tell you the death dates of manay of them who ;later died here. The last -a panish lady,died in Stanley 1865. Give me an email ddress and I will send you a photo of her grave and the parish cemetery record of it.
Yes we do have a dispute between the Islands and Argentina- agreed - but your version of 1833 is total Bullshit - and you know it - but are to scared to go and examine your own national Archives where the FACTS and names are documented.
@100 Biguggy
May 09th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The dolt Filmus also seems to forget that Argentina broke UN General Assembly resolution 2065 by invading the Falklands.
In fact, out of the two countries, UK and Argentina, only Argentina has broken UN General Assembly resolutions AND to cap it all off they then decided to ignore a LEGALLY binding UN Security Council resolution.
@99 Anglotino
I particularly like the post by Stevie on that thread that states at post 47: “But I do know that I'm no Spaniard just because I have Spanish ancestors from the 17th century.”
Which kind of blows Thinks little fantasy out of the water.
By the way THINK I'm still waiting for you to answer the question I posed, coward.
Perhaps you can post under your Dove Over Dover or Surfer accounts. Maybe you can pretend that someone actually backs you up.
Come on Think, grow a pair and answer.
when did we all start caring what imbeciles like filmus think?
May 09th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is THINK still in Tel-Aviv?
“The Queen remains faithful to UK colonialist history and tradition, she’s not aware we are in the XXIst century and times change”, said Filmus “
May 09th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0=who like Argentina is stuck in the 19th century.
”fails to recognize that Malvinas is a case of territorial integrity” as set out by the United Nations in its resolutions,“
No Filmus you Dumbass, the resolutions asking for dialogue do not mention territorial integrity- F*** me, Beavis and Butthead have more IQ than these RG politicians.
”UN Resolution 2065, which demands bilateral dialogue to resolve the conflict on the 180-year illegal occupation of the Islands”.
No again Filmus you Dumbass, try reading 2065-it does not say the above-ever heard of accurate quoting?
@14 The Queen was born in London-she's English, regardless of where her ancestors came from.
@73
“One million signatures will be presented to the UN Secretary General”
A waste of paper, as non of the signatories were born in the Falkland Islands.
Think should know all about Germans. Enough Germans with a questionable background ended up in Argentina after 1945. At the invitation of the Peronists!
May 09th, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One cannot help but smile at the rantings of these inbred argie chimps...Then again in one way one cannot help but feel sorry for them.Poor education,poor diet,poor grasp on reality,poor life style,poor armed forces, poor personal hygiene, poor judgement and on and on.This “Think” thing really is out of touch with reality,he/she/it attempts to come off as some kind of interlectual,when in fact its pretty obvious he/she/it does'nt have the brain of a clock work turd,and tends to open its gob and let the wind blow its tongue around.What I find most amazing of all is how the general Argie populance follows the dictates of a bunch of corrupt ass holes they call a government.Anyone with just half a brain knows the history of the FALKLAND ISL,and Argentina does NOT feature in that history other than a short ILLEGAL spell over 180 years ago.Its kinda sad that the masses of Argie chimps hav'nt yet figured out that the FALKLANDS only become an issue when ever their corrupt governments know that they are in trouble and ANOTHER revolution is brewing..Lets Face it..what other country in the 20th century elected a burnt out old prostitute to be president after her fascist husband popped his clogs, but not before stealing everything he could lay his hands on..?Sad but I'm affraid true that the general population of Argie chimps ask for all they get,regardless of what that “Think” thing would have us all believe.I guess thats it in a nut shell,just let the lunatics carry on with their hysterics,as it gets them out of bed in the morning seeing as there are no jobs for them.Keeps them motivated....lol...!!
May 09th, 2013 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“Poor Think. Desperate to DISTRACT, DISTRACT, DISTRACT from the abject failures of Argentina
May 09th, 2013 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And too afraid to answer a simple question.”“””
QFT
Think is having a bad week - not only has he logged into one his sockpuppet accounts whilst posting as himself (Thinko) but now hes so utterly incapable of answering a simple question that he can only pretend it hasnt been asked.
lovely big smile on my face for once witnessing his growing level of incompetence - which is on par with CFKs government oddly enough.
@106 El Capitano
May 10th, 2013 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0What 'think' thee, Pro-Falkland posters, is this “El Capitano”, self-proclaimed veteran of the Icelsndic “cod wars ”, is he yet another loopy Think 'sailor persona'????
I read the comments with interest ! What has background of the Royal family to do with this ? Surely the point is that a Senator ,plus head of the Foreign Relations group , does not know that the Queen's speech is written by her Prime Minister ! It reflectes ,not her option , but that of the Government . Come Filmus , wisen up , the Queen is a constitutional monarch , not Mrs, all powerful , Kirchner . There is a huge difference . The Queen does not have to play to the masses .
May 10th, 2013 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Troy Tempest #108....Ohhh noooo my lil chickadee..I am 100% whom I say I am..Trawl captain for 40 years...Started with the Grimsby deep water fleet in July of 59...Fishery VERY good to me and all members of my family...Travelled the world and fished in every oceane my lil feathered friend...Love life...worked hard...dont owe a penny to anyone,and cant stand whinning Argie ass holes who still have to build a workable wheel barrow. Ohh and BTW I had four nephews and one younger brother with the Royal Navy back in 82 when they had to come down there and sort you bastards out,thankfully they all returned safely..Now off you go and mug a tourist,Argentinas national sport..!
May 10th, 2013 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@110el Capitano
May 10th, 2013 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am not Argentine.
I AM wondering who you are, as other Pro-FI posters have questioned your previous posts, just like me.
I hope that you really are who you say you are, and that I have cause to regret what I have said. In which case, I am sorry.
Recently, persona “surfer”, who appeared to be Pro-FI, was just a creation of “Think”, the troll.
@ 110 so you would remember poor old rodrigo then? Sorry but we have to try and flush out the trolls hereabouts.....
May 10th, 2013 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think has generated much re-direction from the substance of the article - he is a truely effective troll and should be congratulated for being able to distract so many people so often.
May 10th, 2013 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0But, remember, the article still remains intact and available for discussion, rebuttal, validation, etc.
He proposes (#88) that the dismantling of the (British Empire) / Commonwealth still has a way to go.
Countries stay with the Commonwealth because they want to. A few move beyond the rules of association and are removed, usually temporarily.
Countries stay as Protectorates because they want to. Significantly, it is THEIR choice. They are nearly always tiny islands that could not independently exist in the face of rapacious neighbours; usually they are only partially able to support themselves economically and need a supportive protector.
In this case, the rapacious neighbour is unable to economically support itself. You can see that the two together might just make it economically .. or so the rapacious neighbour thinks.
Unfortunately, the neighbour's economic plight is not innate, it is simply a product of its own economic mismanagement and corruption; it is able to be rich if it wants to be so.
This gives no incentive for the tiny neighbour to look in that direction.
Its history and population prefer the concept of Protectorate of like-minded people ... and who can blame it for that!
The laws and conventions that the world works by allow for this. Protection means just that - protection ... especially against aggressive neighbours.
The world's rules allow this to pertain, as the UN General Secretary has made clear.
All else is the puff of trolls.
GeoffWard2
May 10th, 2013 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very well put if I may say so.
Further I do believe that 'the article' has been well and truly 'torn to pieces' albeit not in one post (mine included), and shown to be, as is usual a pack of lies and at best half truths.
makes me laugh, Filmus the distinctly EUROPEAN looking guy spouting implanted population etc.
May 10th, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@115 I don't think he's talking to educated people with an IQ over 20. Most argies wouldn't understand what you just said.
May 10th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To all the billions of blue blistering boiled and barbecued barnacles out there….
May 10th, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can assure the lot of you that “El Capitano” is 100 % who he says he is…..
A Senior Services chain-smoking, heavy cursing, Ginger Dane fisherman from Grimsby….
Chuckle chuckle©
@110:
May 10th, 2013 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What was the name of your first boat out of Grimsby, and the owner.
What gear were youu using?
TWIMC
May 10th, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You English Turnips can stop doubting “El Capitano”.
He is the real stuff... As real as it gets!
Now, as ”El Capitano says at (110)....: Off you go and molest a child, Englands national sport..!
@117,119 Capt. Haddock
May 10th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can we expect a series of characters, “Snowy”, “ Tin Tin”, “Thompson Twins” etc.?
”Now, as ”El Capitano says at (110)....: Off you go and molest a child, Englands national sport..!“
Actually, he called it your ”Argentine national sport”.
@119 he said he was from Hull not Grimsby....anywaze no response to my question so we can consign him to the troll bin
May 10th, 2013 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@119:
May 10th, 2013 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm just a curious Scot with deep rooted family history in deep sea fishing.
Not English.
Escoses Doido#118...First ship out of Grimsby..July of 59...Northern Princess...Skipper Andy Jensen...Mate Lenny Bruce...Third Hand Alan Ford....Bear Island...Used Northerns own trawl with bang bang gear.. “Think” #117...Have to disapoint you slug..I DONT smoke period..and never have...Lots of Danes in Grimsby,great guys... “Frank” #121..At no time have I ever mentioned HULL..sorry to disapoint...Ohh and BTW...I live in British Columbia and have done so since 1966,moved on you see and had a great life...Now y'all have you one sooper dooper day..!!
May 10th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@123 El Capitano
May 10th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BC ?
Were you a fisherman? Out of Richmond, or somewhere more North?
I am in Port Coquitlam.
Troy #120 & Think
May 10th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enjoyed equally the Eagle ( not just Dan and the Mekon!) cartoon, reprised through Radio Times and animations on TV.... Captain Pugwash.
Captain Pugwash, Master Mate, Seaman Staynes, Barnabas, Willy , Tom the Cabin Boy (though I prefered the alternate, Roger).
Saucy, but hey - they were red-blooded matelots!
Tin Tin's team were weekend sailors.
Beano, Beezer, Valiant, TV21, my favourites
May 10th, 2013 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(120) Troy Tempest
May 10th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say..:
“ Actually, he called it your ”Argentine national sport”.
I say....:
He vould never........... ”El Capitano” never lies you freshwater swab!
Evidence is clear....... BBC stands for British Broadcasting Childmolesters.
@123 Apologies re Hull....relied on memory which can't recall what I read a few hours ago but can remember who said what when and where 50 years ago. Also used to Thicko talking shite.
May 10th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(128) Frank the Yank says...:
May 10th, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“relied on memory which can't recall what I read a few hours ago but can remember who said what when and where 50 years ago....... ”
I say...:
Yet another Anglo Turnip commentator with Alz's......
@123:
May 10th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How old are you now?
Tell me about the Scots boys you must know.
From your time out of Grimsby, and up North.
Why so short a time, what was the lure of the Canada West coast?
Thicko...I had just crawled out of my scratcher and my first caffeine hit of the day was still in the future is all....... you really are a sad and sorry excuse for a fuckwit
May 10th, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry folks, El Capitano is bollocks.
May 10th, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A bit of research, the knowlage that this person must be 70 years old at least.
And supposedly now in Canada.
(this Dane was in England to join a fishing boat (and a fairly high profile one...) out of Grimsby in 1959.
Northeren Princess Never used 'bang bang' gear by the way.
Only so much can be got from the WWW.
(131) Frank the Yank
May 10th, 2013 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Says...:
“... I had just crawled out of my scratcher and my first caffeine hit of the day was still in the future is all.....”
I say....:
Commenting before having had one's morning coffee?
Definitely Alz's!
Andy Jensen Never skippered Northern Princess.
May 10th, 2013 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh - Thats for 123.
@133 - Think
May 10th, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still not answered my question I see.
Senor Think bravely runs away, away, he bravely runs away.
ROFLMAO @# 132Escoses Dildo....Soooooo Andy Jensen NEVER skippered the Northern Princess heh?...Go check the Grimsby Trawler history site on Facebook..
May 10th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/groups/284155788319550/469100626491731/?notif_t=group_comment_reply...Sooooo Escoses Dildo...you are about to be OUTED as a fool as well as a fake...Grimsby Trawler History site has it all...INCLUDING Andy Jensen and the Northern Princess...as for bang bang gear you dont know what the f*ck it is,and Andy used no other gear than bang bang...FACT...!
@136:
May 10th, 2013 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perfect - Post, - Who gives a monkeys.
You have got so upset about this thing.
Totaly false.
Capitano - You have just admited to the world that you have nose dived in to your own desperate
LOL @ Escoses Dildo#137 Ohh my how foolish you look...Far from being upset I am highly amused...I understand that LYING is also one of Argentinas favorite sports,and that kids are taught from birth to LIE..and to be a LIAR in Argentina is indeed considered to be a great honour...You should have left good enough along Dildo,as surely you must know that LIARS such as yourself are always OUTED by your own dysfunctional behaviour.You biggest problem as I see it is that because you come from a nation of LIARS you just assume that everyone else is so afflicted,and in doing so make a fool of yourself just as you did right here...ie..#132 and # 134...lol...
May 10th, 2013 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0El capitano is probably the worst constructed sock puppet I have ever come across.
May 11th, 2013 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can't prove a single thing about my life using the Internet. Indeed does anyone know what 90% of the posters on here do for a living?
My father has enough trouble switching a computer on let alone referencing his life using FB as a complete stranger on a forum in another country.
Run out of things to say Think? Someone who has to pretend so as to be heard, really isn't being heard at all.
@139Anglotino
May 11th, 2013 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglotino
My father of Capitano's age, would not speak in the way thst he does.
FB is not something he would build a case on, or even use on a familiar basis.
For someone almost 'new' on here, The Capitano fits right in. A mite too familiar.
Certainly he has not proven anything by using Internet references.
Troy Tempest#124...I fished out of Fishermans warf Campbell Ave Vancouver almost right up to when it was torn down...Moved my vessel down to Steveston and fished from there right up to when I sold out (Vessel and Quota) and retired....A great way to make a very lucrative living and dont regret a single thing.Retired to the Okanagan and love it,breed Akitas and do pretty much as I want...
May 11th, 2013 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Troy
May 11th, 2013 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed! If I asked anyone over the age of 50 what “lol” meant, 95% would be perplexed. Let alone “ROFLMAO”. That would take out the remaining 5%.
So Captain John G Evans was supposedly a captain for 40 years. His first post as far as I can see was on March 21st with the obligatory congratulations by Think to welcome him before El Capitano made it known that he had, and I quote:
“I have followed your insane post's for some time...and for the record...“When I want to listen to an ass hole,I'll fart”....OK..??”
And voila before you know it there's a cuckoo in the nest.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/19/south-georgia-completes-first-phase-of-reindeer-eradication-1.900-animals#comment230768
As I've said. A fairly unconvincing sock puppet. Think's effectiveness has dropped markedly in the last few months.
(138) Capt. John G Evans, British Columbia, Canada.
May 11th, 2013 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I’m fully convinced that you are who you say you are…..
Just disregard the lily-livered bandicoots, fancy-dress freebooters and odd-toed ungulate Anglo Turnips that populate this pages ….
Your fellow hunter and (sports) fisherman…
El Think, Chubut, Argentina.
PS....:
As much as I agree with your Cynegeticus posts, I must disagree with your comment about the Crazy Scots at (138) (“Escoses Doido”)
Scotland is not a nation of liars!
They do always exaggerate the size of their “Salmon”… but they ain’t liars :-)
Troy
May 11th, 2013 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I reiterate, an entirely unconvincing sock puppet!
Entirely unconvincing.
(141) El Capitano
May 11th, 2013 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Akita’s huhhhhhh................. Nice dogs…..
I myself am “stuck” with some bloody English Border Collies, salvaged from adjacent Estancias 'cause of their “wrong” disposition towards sheep…
They aren’t picky though…… They'll breed with any dam crossing their path….
@136 and 138:
May 11th, 2013 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hang-on Every body read this again;
“ROFLMAO @# 132Escoses Dildo....Soooooo Andy Jensen NEVER skippered the Northern Princess heh?...Go check the Grimsby Trawler history site on Facebook..
www.facebook.com/home.php#!/groups/284155788319550/469100626491731/?notif_t=group_comment_reply...Sooooo Escoses Dildo...you are about to be OUTED as a fool as well as a fake...Grimsby Trawler History site has it all...INCLUDING Andy Jensen and the Northern Princess...as for bang bang gear you dont know what the f*ck it is,and Andy used no other gear than bang bang...FACT...! ”
This from a guy who has to be in his seventies if he (as a Dane remember) first (unless he's even older) went to sea out of Grimsby in 1959.
Clearly the outburst above, and the following one at 138 are the real embarrasment here.
How can I look foolish, for being able to goad a troll in to 'loosing it'???
Captain(s) I come from a Fishing family from the North East of Scotland, I am a real person.
You on the other hand, are as they say in Nigeria - a '419'.
Why are you on here posting on mercopress about the Falkland Islands?
Why? (you know I'm ex-British Army, so you know why I'm interested in the Falklands)
C'mon Dane?
Think,
May 11th, 2013 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've been “out-thunk!”
Why do you do it, you silly old duffer?
Thought you like Border Collies? l've found them to be excellent dogs.
Maybe your influence, ho ho.
Anyway, where's all your malvinista mates, these days?
Given up the cause, thinkus?
Never mind, have some more whiskey.
l'll be having some wine with dinner.
'l'll be having some wine with dinner.'
May 11th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chilean? Screw top or cork? Bet its a cork.......
(147) Chère Isolde
May 11th, 2013 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I like Border Collies, indeed…..............
They can ”out think” most of them Anglo Turnips in here…..
And I particularly dislike them Anglo Turnip ranchers around here that ”dispose of” the dogs that they, in their vast but haughty ignorance, are unable to train properly…................
As I have explained many times to you and other lesser intelligences in here; I have neither the time, the inclination nor the need of constructing any characters other than “El Think”.......
It seems to be though, that any poster of my liking is accused of being one of my creations.....
Are you one of my creations............, Isolde dahling? ;-)
Ps:
Real wine for dinner, I hope..... made from grapes......
Not that “Tropical Fruit Shandy” you “ Squatting Colonial Bints” are so partial about .
TWIMC
May 11th, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think says:
“As I have explained many times to you and other lesser intelligences in here; I have neither the time, the inclination nor the need of constructing any characters other than “El Think”.......”
But what everyone else knows when backed into a corner you come out with purile crap like this:
”It seems some of the sharper tools in this box have discovered another of my characters.....
This was a very lazy creation however, singular minded, rather surprising how long it took. Our commander McDod took a bit longer to fashion.
Now I shall share some even more astounding insights.....
I say....:
Turnips a lot, this is another way of distracting from the current argument, when I know the game is up! Lots of precise semantic nitpicking, barrister lite, too, this helps to distract.
In addition I want to apologise for all the purile insults I've thrown around so carelessly like confetti....
The 'Think' sock puppet will still be used from time to time, but don't take it too seriously. It only appears after a astonishingly good Concha y Toro Don Melchor Cabernet Sauvignon, one of my favourites ;-)
El Stink
Chubby”
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/04/brazil-furious-with-cristina-fernandez-non-kept-promises-freezes-relation#comment244723
So what you pull the wool over our eyes for a time. It doesn't change how ineffective you are.
And you have plenty of sock puppets on here including El Capitano..... you can't actually see your own tell. Quite surprised by some actually - Stevie isn't so surprising though.
Keep going. I'll admit you are highly amusing. You increase revenue for Mercopress. You increase the standing of articles in Google searches and best yet, you make Argentina look bad whenever someone stumbles across these fora.
God forbid if you aren't actually pro-Argentina, because that would pretty much leave poor old Nostril's in his parent's basement as the only real Argentine on here.
think
May 11th, 2013 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just who is out of touch? People these days have rights and it isnt just the Falklands, that is the modern world, when is Argentina going to join it?
(((Laughter))) Anglotino#139 and #142...reacted exactly as one would expect..Has to be conected to Argentinian “Secret Service”...lol...you know...Those “Brave” souls who threw folks out of planes then stole their off spring...As for his father not being able to switch on a computer,I must say I'm very sorry to hear that,maybe he should spend more time with his daddy its very rewarding so I have been told....Ohh and BTW..these insane posts are getting Argentina no closer to occupying the Falkland Islands..not now...not ever..So you keep right on venting your frustration my confused lil Argie wannabe bully boy.And have a great weekend..(((winx)))..!!
May 11th, 2013 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(150) Anglolatino…..
May 11th, 2013 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s not spelled “Purile”…..
It’s spelled“Puerile”….
Read and learn…
Anyhow…:
The suff you attribute to my authorship seems to have been written and signed by a poster calling himself “Surfer”…..
I am not “Surfer”......, I am “El Think” and I have explained many times to you, lesser intelligence in here, that I neither have the time, the inclination nor the need of constructing any characters other than “El Think”.......”
TWIMC.....
This “El Capitano”-(152) must be a good Kanuk trapper…………
In the absence of any appropriate Argentinean fauna, he makes the most of haggises-(132) and duck-billed platypussies-(139) to discharge, “By-Proxi”, his geographical Haddockian insults and exclamations….:-)))
What a Fuzzy-wuzzy, polynesian, mameluke, zapotec, two-timing tartar twister Patagonian he is!
No mention of the BOT of Turks and Caicos Islands and their ”right to determine their political futures”. I wonder why? Must have been an oversight .... Oh, hang on. I just checked. Most of the residents of the Turks and Caicos Islands are black and the BOTCs of Malvinas are white Anglos. Looks like I answered my own question. Please disregard my post.
May 11th, 2013 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think
May 11th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have not answered my rather simple question, when is Argentina going to join the modern world?
You cannot after 180 years expect people no matter where they come from and no matter how they settled there to not have a say in their future in the modern world!
I dont think the UK is wrong here and my opinion is that Argentina tried to illegally take control of the islands , in fact it is even less than that, it was a private company!
If Argentina is correct in the debate and they were gained illegally, then still in the modern world the islanders have rights!
You see “think” your government is claiming that it wasnt their fault for the war etc etc and they are now saying they are a just and right democracy and then stating that the islanders have no rights.
I think that your government has got this totally wrong, imagine how different it would look if your government was giving some credit to the Islanders existence and willing to meet half way etc etc. The course your going down will not help you, nobody wants another war!
The fact is the rest of the world doesnt give a shit, the oil found is rather small in oil field terms, its all getting very boring, again!
@think
May 11th, 2013 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As I have explained many times to you and other lesser intelligences in here; I have neither the time, the inclination nor the need of constructing any characters other than “El Think”.......”
Thinkedover,
You are on here so often, and you keep coming back, again and again, to tell us how clever you are, how stupid we are, how you don't need us, or wish to expend any energy to interact with us.
Yet, you must be the most prolific poster in the history of MP!!
Each time you get shown up, you try to re-affirm your supposed superiority!
Hah!!! You NEED us.
You can't stay away.
You are ADDICTED to having our attention!!!
Certainly, WE don't miss you.
I challenge you to stay away for a month. Can you do that??
I doubt it. That means stuffing ALL of your puppet collection into your suitcase, and moving on, to another corner.
BUT, you won't go.
The apparently mentally challenged Filmus is quoted above as saying:
May 11th, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“no UN resolution related to the Malvinas question refers to self-determination”
That does not matter as General Assembly Resolutions are not binding anyway but the UN Charter, Article 1, paragraph 2 states:
“ To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;”
Please notice the 'self determination' in there and no qualifying what 'peoples' means and no exclusions, in other words absolutely every one.
Any attempt to reduce that means interfering with the UN Charter.
(155) scottbart
May 11th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of the best features from MercoPress is their “Custom Search” function....
A quick look at “scottbart's” previous postings makes it crystal-clear that “scottbart” is a Turnip............An insulting, ignorant turnip....
As I try to interact as little as possible with such..., I wish you a good life....
think
May 11th, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is this the future attitude of all Argentines? Again you havent answered my obvious and real question towards you ever increasingly violent overtures, in the modern world do all 180 year old “colonies” have any rights as human beings ?
49 Mr Ed
May 11th, 2013 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Does this person, who seems to have risen like flatulence in a bath....”
Haven't stopped laughing yet........... An absolute killer turn of phrase, the written equivalent of a 1,000lb bomb......
Nuff Respec!!!
(155) scottbart
May 11th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thou art weighed in the balances and art found to be a Turnip......
159 scottbart
May 11th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The short answer is “You won't”. You don't expect to get a straight answer from “Think” do you?
You don't expect him to back up his claims or point of view with evidence do you??
You stand a better chance of finding rocking horse sh*t.....
That's the thing, clear thinking, a reasoned argument is like garlic to these “Malvinasistists” or whatever they call themselves. They start to run scared.
You can always tell when you have effectively won a argument because he either 1/ Calls you a Turnip
or
2/ Ignores you
Best just to put him back under his rock where you found him, and then wash your hands afterwards.... you don't know where he's been!!
Back on topic
May 11th, 2013 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, give it a rest, you have accomplished your goal - to make any argument and issues about sovereignty and self determination of the Falklands unreadable and submerged in irrelevant squabbling.
The Queen and her government are NOT out of touch with the values, mores, and governance if today in the Falklands and Gibraltar.
Furthermore, they are completely in line with the current UN Charter and are NOT in violation of any UN binding, or non-binding resolutions.
In fact it is Argentina that wishes to assert an imperialist, “colonialist” claim of the 19th century, and asks us to turn the click back to 1965 to the non-binding UN resolution 2065, to find a 'peaceful negotiated settlement' before they invaded militarily.
Argentina now calls for a return to 1976 when the UK was peacefully expanding trade with the Argentine junta, before they got nasty and invaded.
Argentina has no history with the Falklands except that of an unsuccessful aggressor.
Argentina is the only one 'out of touch',
This “Senator Daniel Filmus” he does talk a lot of b*ll*cks doesn't he?
May 11th, 2013 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've just re-read the story...WOW, how can one man be so wrong??
“”“El capitano is probably the worst constructed sock puppet I have ever come across. ”“”
May 11th, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0worse than SurferDoverOverDover??
REALLY?
I think Thinks been substituted or sacked... his recent forays into Sock-Puppetry seem only half-hearted and even less well constructed.
This entire false-positive approach of self-denial is also rather trite to say the least.
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“”“”“A quick look at “scottbart's” previous postings makes it crystal-clear that “scottbart” is a Turnip............An insulting, ignorant turnip....
As I try to interact as little as possible with such..., I wish you a good life....”“”“”“”“””
And yet you seem to spend every waking hour talking about turnips.
One would think you get paid for it (i cant imagine doing it for free)
@149 Think,
May 11th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No dahling, l am not you & you are not me.
But you can have my flu if you want!
l prefer white wine actually.
l really loved an Australian white wine.
Brown Brothers Moscato. You can taste the passionfruit in it. 10% alcohol if l remember correctly.
Haven't had any for a while now. You can get some good ltalian Moscato too, but IMO Brown Brothers is the nicest.
But to work,
The Queen is most certainly NOT out of touch with reality.
lt is Argentina that is completely out of touch & still stuck in the 19th century.
Have to tell you this Think, but its 2013, not 1813. You can wake up now.
Lucky you, Argentina, we are still your neighbours.
So unconvincing that I'm starting to feel a little sorry for Think.
May 11th, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder how the speech reporting the announcing the return of Malinvas to Argentina will be reported.
May 11th, 2013 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, that speech is due to be read out at 9.00am April 1st.
May 11th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can sell you a ticket at a discount if you wish to attend.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment246590: No need. The British ruler's speeches are not that interesting.
May 12th, 2013 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not as creative as Argentina's speeches
May 12th, 2013 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0or Argentine inflation figures. Hey Think, is your real name Baldrick? you seem to have some kind of root vegetable obsession, a fetish maybe?
May 12th, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0think
May 12th, 2013 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why are you looking at my previous posts? That wasnt the issue, i asked a simple question and you responded with insults, this shows you dont have an answer to a reasonable question and you lose the argument!
Turnip at (173)
May 12th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0That IS precisely the issue....
You Anglo Turnips “Think” that you may repeatedly smear, insult and disrespect our Countries, our leaders and our People and, at the same time, be treated with deference….
Well............, that's NOT the way the cookie crumbles.
Think
May 12th, 2013 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You probably not the first to think im a turnip, im a turnip!
How ever this still doesnt answer my simple question think, do you have the capacity to answer it?
“no UN resolution related to the Malvinas question refers to self-determination” insisted Senator Filmus.”
May 12th, 2013 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As they all include'bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations,' which includes Self Determination, there obviously is reference to Self Determination as that is included in the Charter of the United Nations.
Reading and research not the strong point of Argentine politicians is it -oh well I'll give you some initial help Senor Filmus, A, B, C, D, E F, G, (etc).
176 Pete Bog
May 12th, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but you have to realize that you are dealing with RG politicians and it has to be repeated every third sentence in words of one syllable, or less, for it to penetrate what passes for their mental capabilities.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment246615: When I said that your ruler's speaches are dull I was using an absolute standard. You have chosen to use a relative standard, and using as a reference the president of a country which, apparently, you despise. Why you would want to disparage your ruler in this way is not clear to me.
May 12th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In any case I'm sure that the necessary speech has already been written and, in due course, your king or queen will use it to inform you subjects of the decision to return Las Malvinas.
I think the most important point of this speech is that it denies any attribution of sovereignty to the present illegitimate administration in Las Malvinas and, so, making a mockery of the reasons that the UK administration has given for note negotiating. I don't think that they have thought this through.
178 Hepatia (#)
May 12th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of crap, do some homework, the Queen is a puppet and has no power. Uk people don't consider themselves ruled at all
I think your dreaming if you think the Falklands are going to be renamed to that fictional place call Las Malvinas!
@178
May 12th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“When I said that your ruler's speaches are dull I was using an absolute standard”
You expect an opening of parliament speech written by someone else to be interesting?
“your king or queen will use it to inform you subjects of the decision to return Las Malvinas.”
How can you return something that has never been taken?
Hepatia,
May 13th, 2013 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't keep hoping for a miracle.
lts NEVER going to happen.
This land is OURS.
It does not have to be “returned” to us as we possess it already!
And No, we are not going to “dialogue” about it with you or anyone else.
There will be NO Negotiations on Sovereignty.
We can't be any clearer than that.
btw-who cares what YOU think about our Queen's speeches.
@178 - Hepatia
May 13th, 2013 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0In case you missed it, the Queen's Speech sets out OFFICIAL UK government policy.
That means the chances of Argentina getting your theiving mitts on the Falkland Islands are NIL, NADA, VOID, NON-EXISTANT.
Dream as much as you want, but it won't change the FACT that the Falklands are British and will remain so UNTIL the PEOPLE of the FALKLANDS decide otherwise. SELF-DETERMINATION.
It frightens Argentines, doesn't it? Self-determination, letting people choose for themselves, like a true democracy.
I suppose dreams are all you have, as your government bends you (the people of Argentina) over and sodomises you constantly. Over and over.
You let them steal your money, you let them steal your future. And what do you get in return? A fairy-tale.
No wonder you all sound so desperate on here.
HEY THINK!
Still not answered my question, coward! Shows you up for what you really are, doesn't it? A racist troll, with wannabe nazi tendancies.
It would seem that Argentina is out of touch with reality. Really now, the Argentine economy has flown out the window, up through the atmosphere and off into space, and they think that “Recovering” an island that was never actually theirs will fix it?
May 13th, 2013 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment246830: When Las Malvinas is returned I will not be in a position to get my “thieving mitts” on that territory (because I'm not Argentinian). I personally have no interest in the islands other than I believe that Europe has no territorial rights in America. This is a belief of the majority of Americans. For this reason, among others, you can be sure, as I am, that Las Malvinas will be returned within 25 years.
May 13th, 2013 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CAMERON TO SPEAK AT THE WHITE HOUSE on TV. If I understood correctly...very soon.
May 13th, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think is on 'Piece work' today. All quantity rather than quality.
May 13th, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HYPA we are truly privileged that we have someone posting who can speak for the majority of all Americans. Thank you.
May 13th, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do all Americans believe that Jan Cheek, 9th generation Falklander to be European? What about all of those murderous Nazi Germans who escaped justice in Europe in 1945. Did all Americans believed then to Argentine because Peron had given them an argentine passport?
Please pass on your wisdom, Monk.
#184
May 13th, 2013 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your “interest ”is in seeing the population of the Falklands being kicked out for no other reason than satisfying Argentina's vanity.
Are South Georgia and the S. Sandwich islands in America.
Is Antarctica in S. A. ?
Give us the benefit of your “wisdom”
@184 Hepatia
May 13th, 2013 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands aren't in South America, they're in the South Atlantic.
Also, Following your logic about territorial claims, what right does anyone of European descent have to land in the America's?
Oh yes, they base their rights on the fact that Europeans claimed the land. They claim the fact that they decided to cede from Europe, but it doesn't make the true facts that all land in the America's was claimed by one European country or another, and that everyone who lives there (except those descendents of native Amerindians, and those descendents of African Slaves) did so out of their own choice, and their ancestors stole the land from the natives.
Stealing land, that continued way after these 'countries' gained independence from their Europeans forebearers, and in the case of some countries like Argentina, is continuing this very day.
Come on, Hepatia, just why does the descendents of Spanish, Italians etc...who murdered people and stole land, have more right to South America, than a group of people descended from British, German, Spanish etc...have to the land they have, when they murdered and STOLE nothing?
We await your answer.
Think gave the best answer on this question in the last five years ...
May 13th, 2013 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He said “... because we want it!”
(190) GeoffWard2
May 13th, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you?
“The Queen is not aware that we are in the XXIst century and she follows the colonialist tradition of the United Kingdom”.
May 13th, 2013 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well if this is true!
With a Letter Patent MEDIA AGE, passed over of the Supreme Court of Britain to prevent the Ilois return to Diego Garcia Island as this Court had sentenced. Self-Determination, no way!. Let them die, totally not “Anglos”.
But the reality is you have to suck balls the Yankees at all costs.
Example of the latter:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/11/pm-cameron-should-stop-groveling-to-obama-and-stand-up-for-britain-over-the-falklands
Well fuck me we are beat. Well done Jose. Such logic you should be on Star Trek. From now on you are promoted. You can call yourself Dr Spook. I hope they give you a bonus. We can all go home now well and truly beaten. Whipped in fact.
May 13th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Er. just a sec. Because Cameron grovels to Obama in the eyes of Er 'someone' we all have to suck the balls of the 'yankee'. O yeah of course that is logical (??????) (who is this fucker)
Did you see the interview from the White House today (Cameron and Obama?). If anyone was kissing arse (sucking balls) I think it was the President. I seem to remember him back tracking on something about special relationships. Did you see it? Have you read the text?
Obama is a slippery fucker. He sees you Dagos or your poor cousins in the States as keeping his party in power. Within a few weeks there will be an amnesty for all of the illegal poor immigrants from Central and South America hiding in the sewers. He has plans for allowing a further 100K in each year and the way you breed, although he wants more.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment246887: I have no interest in “seeing the population of the Falklands being kicked out” at all. Nothing that I have said could lead you to that conclusion.
May 14th, 2013 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@194 _ Hepatia
May 14th, 2013 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? Yet you want to force them to be ruled by a government and culture that is alien to them, hostile to them, and wants to steal all of their wealth?
That sounds an awful lot like colonialism to me.
And you didn't really answer my post did you? All of the countries in South America are a creation of European territorial land grabs, by the original European country, and later by the colonists who declared independence.
What right do they have to claim territory in South America? Conquest? Genocide? Theft? Or are you going to try and go down the God Given Right of the Papal Bull, which was recognised only by Spain and Portugal, but not by ANYONE else in the world? And then what right did the Pope have to give away someone else's land anyway?
Come on Hepatia, we await your wisdom.
Hepatia
May 14th, 2013 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 025 years? You are dumb enough to believe the Queen will be opening the UK parliament when she is 112?
@191 Think,
May 14th, 2013 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0We don't just want it, Think, we've got it(& you have NOT).
And you're not going to get it!, got it?
@184 Hepatia,
So you're not Argentine? Then what is your real interest in all this?
My enemy's enemy is my friend, perhaps. Like that stupid Fido Dido?
@192 José Malvinero,
You don't seem to make mush sense.
What has Diego Garcia have to do with the Falklands, South Georgia & the SSI?
Are you claiming islands in the lndian Ocean now?
Wouldn't surprise me. l expect you to claim the Moon next.
Well, it shines on Argentina so by your twisted logic, it must belong to Argentina, yes?
ldiota.
It doesn't shine on Manchester City or Mancini.
May 14th, 2013 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Blue moon you saw me standing alone, without a dream in my heart, without a love of my own'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aj82i43OQ
@194
May 14th, 2013 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I have no interest in “seeing the population of the Falklands being kicked out” at all.”
Nice sentiments. And your wish will remain. The Falkland Islanders will stay there without being a colony of Argentina.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment247018: I do not want to force “them” to do anything in particular.
May 14th, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your question, such as it is, has been addressed by me here in the past. It is sufficient for me to say the issues have been resolved in so far as Europe is concerned in the late 18th and early 19th centuries.
Over the years I have, of course, been aware that Europeans feel the need, as your question demonstrates, to cling desperately to America by asserting their cultural ownership of the new world. But the fact is that America's legitimacy is in no way beholden to European culture. America's legitimacy is fully self contained and self sufficient.
This HYPA is a master of gibberish. No?
May 14th, 2013 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bit of a bullshitter as well. Was your comment typical of the majority of Americans whose views you know?
Do they all Americans take gibberish also?
#200
May 14th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which “America” do you mean. The America we recognise being the USA or the continents of N.& S. America which the Latinos claim as America ?
@200 - Hepatia
May 14th, 2013 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So just what is your problem then? The people of the Falklands want to remain British. They certainly want nothing to do with Argentina, yet you have advocated that their land, their homes and their natural resources be handed over to Argentina, a country that has NO valid claim, and never has, to the Falkland Islands.
Just because you, a product of colonialism, don't want the British in the South Atlantic, doesn't mean that others don't.
It is currently in the Falkland Islanders best interests to remain a British Overseas Territory. It is their choice. Yet you would deny them this choice, no matter how much you now say you wouldn't, because of your racism towards the British.
Argentina destroyed any chance of the Falkland Islanders willingly becoming a part of Argentina on 2 April 1982.
This deliberate act of aggression by Argentina, whose eventual plans were to ethnically cleanse the islands, and put their 'own' people there, was fortunately thwarted by the British.
But that was 31 years ago. More than enough time for Argentina to have made amends for that illegal and aggressive act. More than enough time for Argentina to show that they are not all like the Military Junta, more than enough time to build bridges of trust and friendship.
So what has Argentina done in the last 31 years to improve relations with the Falkland Islanders?
Has it apologised for its illegal invasion? NO, it doesn't even admit that it did anything wrong.
Has Argentina talked to the Falkland Islanders and their Government? NO, Argentina refuses to acknowledge that they exist and that they have rights.
Has Argentina encouraged co-operation and friendship between themselves and the Falkland Islanders? NO, in fact, Argentina has become increasingly belligerent.
Argentina offers them hatred and oppression, in other words SLAVERY.
UK offers them friendship and self-determination, in other words FREEDOM.
SLAVERY or FREEDOM. It's not a hard choice to make, is it?
So Hepatia finally admits that she supports the worst excesses of European colonialism while at the same time saying she is against them.
May 14th, 2013 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That, ladies and gents, is how a hypocrite is exposed.
Daniel Filth should leave the 19th century behind and give up on Argentine colonialism. Filmus lying again.
May 14th, 2013 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When did his family turn up in Argentina?
No. Only one country claims as its own islands from another continent, distant 14,000 km: England. I defend island of Diego Garcia for Ilois.
May 15th, 2013 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment247199: I don't have a problem. The islands will be returned within 25 years and I am simply announcing that fact.
May 15th, 2013 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Other than getting Europeans out of America I am not advocating anything.
Most of the rest of your post is, to me, irrelevant to the return of the Malvinas.
@207 - Hepatia
May 15th, 2013 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are not announcing a fact, you are announcing your opinion. Facts are generally backed up by EVIDENCE.
The reason you say the rest of my post is irrelevant is because you know what I say is true, and you actually have no answer to it.
You are advocating the enslavement and/or ethnic cleansing of the Falkland Islands (there is no such place as Malvina's except in Argentina's deluded mind), because you don't want the British there.
Well the British have been on the Falklands since 1690, when we 1st named the Islands. 1690 nearly 200 years before Argentina finally existed.
Everyone, including Argentina, knows that all it's claims to the Falklands, and South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands and Queen Elizabeth Land, are based on LIES.
If Argentina ACTUALLY had a claim, they would've taken it to the International Court of Justice, just like Britain has tried to do on 3 separate occasions.
The UK will not allow Argentina to 'take' the Islands by force, we have already proven that.
So just how is Argentina going to get the Falklands? Because two things here are TRUE.
1. Every year that goes by strengthens the Falkland Islanders rights to their own land, and weakens Argentina's erroneous claims.
2. The right to self-determination is enshrined in the UN Charter, so therefore, the only way Argentina could legally gain sovereignty of the Falkland Islands is by consent of the people who live there.
Now as I said in my post @204, just WHAT has Argentina actually done to try and 'woo' the Islanders over? To persuade them that being a part of Argentina would be beneficial to them?
The answer is, of course, nothing.
This is amusing, “Other than getting Europeans out of America I am not advocating anything.”
Well if you want Europeans out of America (or is it the America's) then you'd better pack your own bags, and tell everyone that is Caucasian to do the same thing. Only then will America be free of Europeans. Don't you agree?
@208 LEPRecon,
May 15th, 2013 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0l don't think Hepatia has any solutions.
She just doesn't like us British, so will side with anyone who is against us.
We can dismiss such irrelevant people.
@206 José Malvinero,
Distance has nothing to do with it.
Tierra del Fuego is probably 2000kms from Buenos Aires,
Does that mean that Argentina should give it up?
btw- the British settled TDF before the Argentines anyway.
José, Argentina does NOT own the Falklands.
lf you feel that you do & you have proof, then take your case to the International Court of Justice.
You don't need the British to accompany you.
You can do it yourself.
Your government refuses because the know that Argentina has no case.
209
May 15th, 2013 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is not necessary to move to Buenos Aires. Tierra del Fuego (Argentinísima) is 30 kilometers from Santa Cruz. It is also shared by Chile. Our country is great ...
Ridiculous.
Hepatica,
May 15th, 2013 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'getting the Europeans out of America' #207
.. and, by extension, Australasia, Africa, Asia and the two polar continents is a tall order!
Only pure genetic types, or those that have mixed genomes?
Perhaps we could get all those with Mongolian genes to go to Mongolia; all Chinese genes to go to China; all 'jewish genes' to Israel, all people with afro hair-styles to go to Africa ...
And what year is the baseline year for this game of 'Return to Roots'?
Really, Hepatica, you do post some poorly thought-out ideas!
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment247256: The reason I say that your post is irrellevant is because it is. What the British were doing in 1690 etc. has no bearing on the fact that the UK will be returning the islands within the next 25 years.
May 15th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see from your post that you still have not accepted the fact that America exists. I have noticed this failing in Europeans before. This seems to be the basis of Europe's passive aggressive anger towards America.
As an aside I do not know why you persist in vomiting up you talking points in response to my posts. They may be true, or they may not, but it doesn't matter. I'm sure that there are many other commenters will be happy to debate their merits with you, but not I.
@212 Hepatia
May 15th, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As an aside I do not know why you persist in vomiting up you talking points in response to my posts. They may be true, or they may not, but it doesn't matter. I'm sure that there are many other commenters will be happy to debate their merits with you, but not I.”
Truly one of the stupidest comments I have ever seen!!
In other words, “ I admit that I will spout whatever derogatory and untrue statements that I want, to discredit the Brits and Falklanders, but I will not support my statements with an argument, because
-there is no logical argument
- my statements are blatant lies and inventions with no basis in fact
- I am too intellectually lazy and too indoctrinated to want to engage in arguments supporting my statements
- all of the above”
Hepatia, we don't care what YOU think. YOU are a hater and you are spreading lies and knowingly making libelous and false stAtements.
For the same of others, we will steadfastly refute your lies to make sure that other casual readers are not deceived by your statements.
We are NOT doing this because we have any interest or respect for you.
As to 1690:
If Argentina wishes to argue that events of the past, 180 years ago, should have a bearing on Falklands sovereignty, then they must accept that historical counter-claims are relevant, also.
@212 Hepatia
“What the British were doing in 1690 etc. has no bearing on the fact that the UK will be returning the islands within the next 25 years.”
Whatever the Argentine Governments were doing in 1982 and 2013 will have no effect on Falklands self-governance and self-determination, 25 years from now.
Care to discuss that?
#212
May 15th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course America exists and their President is Barack Obama.
Actually we get on well with the American people.
@210 José Mal,
May 15th, 2013 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sta Cruz may well be only 30 kms from TDF.
But Argentina did not own & had not populated Sta Cruz in 1832-33 when your invading usurpers arrived here.
Your “garrison” came from Buenos Aires, which is thousands of kilometres away from the Falkland lsles.
So, José, distance means nothing. And it is not ridiculous. Argentina's “claims” are ridiculous.
How far is Hawaii from mainland USA?
Your country COULD be great, but its now on a downward spiral & its sad to see.
215
May 15th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Santa Cruz is so Argentine like Buenos Aires, Tierra del Fuego ..... and the Malvinas Argentinas Islands.
We are not interested in other territories more than the ours.
... except patagonia - you were very interested in that, indeed you slaughtered the indigenous and stole it all.
May 15th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you tried that a few other places too... most recently in 1982.
didnt work out so well that time though.
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“”What the British were doing in 1690 etc. has no bearing on the fact that the UK will be returning the islands within the next 25 years.“”“
I thought it was by the year 2000?
no matter, you can write those claims out of history as you do with so much of the rest of history that you dont like and dont want your children to learn.
”If we pretend the 1982 war didnt happen we can make people think we didnt invade! honest! They wont notice!“
What's so very, very , very sad is that, for many Argentines, they will grow up believing that... until the next mad dictator orders another invasion of the Falklands and the poor conscripts turn up wondering why everybody speaks English and has nothing good to say about the Kirchners... (or ”How come their army has proper training, ships, weapons and officers?“ and ”How do we know where to scatter these landmines when nobody recorded where we scattered them last time?“ and ”What do you mean They are ALLOWED to fight back!?”)
mind you, in 25 years time you wont find many Argentines with anything good to say about the Kirchners either. ;-0
Patagonia: inheritance, inheritance, inheritance.
May 16th, 2013 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was part of the Viceroyalty of the Plata River with its capital in Buenos Aires. Explored by its owners: the Spanish. They founded the places that are current today towns, cities and villages: Rio Gallegos, Puerto Deseado, Puerto Santa Cruz, etc.., etc.. Puerto Soledad in the Malvinas, of course!
Inherited by the new Republic Argentina.
Although for the imbecile usurpers and pirates could perhaps be from countries as diverse as Thailand, Sudan, El Salvador and who knows whom.
Idiots.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment247394: I agree, what the Argentinian Governement “were doing in 1982 and 2013 will have no effect on Falklands self-governance and self-determination, 25 years from now”. But a better way of putting it is that the islands will be returned despite what the Argentinian Government did in 1982 and what it is doing currently.
May 16th, 2013 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@219
May 16th, 2013 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hepatia
“But a better way of putting it is that the islands will be returned despite what the Argentinian Government did in 1982 and what it is doing currently.”
A better way to put it would be that regardless of what the Argentine Government has done or will do in the next 25 years, the Fslklands will not become Argentine.
@218 José Malvinero
May 16th, 2013 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0You would do well to find out the limits of Viceroyalty of Rio de la Plata.
In 1766, the Spanish King, Carlos III, issued a Royal Decree creating the Falkland Islands as a dependency of the Governor and Captain General of Buenos Aires.
In August 1776 King Charles III of Spain creates the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata. “ .. ”the viceroyalty of La Plata is represented as extending southward to the latitude of 41 degrees; and in the map accompanying it, a line drawn from the Andes eastward to the head-waters of the river Colorado, and down that stream to its mouth in the Atlantic, near the 40th degree, is given as the boundary between the viceroyalty and Patagonia.”
The Falkland Islands are not included within the new Viceroyalty.
Hepatia,
May 16th, 2013 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0You claimed as far back as June 10 last year that it was 25 years.
Therefore please change that figure to 24 years effective from June 10. I shall remind you every year to reduce your claimed figure by one.
Considering 10th June is the Queen's Birthday in my home state, it will be easy to remember.
@218 José Malvinero,
May 16th, 2013 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0You inherited nothing from Spain.
You were in open rebellion to Spain.
Why do you think that they would give you anything?
The only thing that your countrymen would “inherit” from Spain would be the garrotte.
You also did not own Patagonia either.
Your country stole that land from the native lndians, after murdering them, of course.
The United Provinces(forerunner of Argentina)knew that the Falkland lslands belonged to Britain, but still sent a useless garrison, who murdered their own leader.
Why are you surprised that Britain expelled the trespassers?
l believe that some of them were hanged when they got back to Buenos Aires?
Some heroes!
This is our land & you have no rights here.
Don't believe it? Then go to the ICJ.
Why won't you go? Scared?
223
May 16th, 2013 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0What crazy.
Andd to tell that to the United States, your “dad”: “uti possidetis juris”
Tontita
@223 lsolde
May 16th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those mutineers that were hung were shot first and one of them had one hand cut off prior to execution. Two others were flogged, one with 100 lashes, the other with 200 and both were were additionally sentenced to extra military service.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/05/09/falkland-island-s-self-determination-queen-out-of-touch-with-reality-says-argentina#comment247462: For your formulation to be true you need to explain how the UK can manage to retain defacto sovereignty of the islands for 25 years.
May 16th, 2013 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#226
May 16th, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We just sit there and shoot any Argentinian who tries to invade.
Simples !!
@212hepatia
May 16th, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0““As an aside I do not know why you persist in vomiting up you talking points in response to my posts. They may be true, or they may not, but it doesn't matter. I'm sure that there are many other commenters will be happy to debate their merits with you, but not I.”
@226hepatia
” For your formulation to be true you need to explain how the UK can manage to retain defacto sovereignty of the islands for 25 years.”
Hepatia,
Don't you remember? You said @212 that you would make untrue statements, but you would not discuss them.
The Islands belong to the Falklanders now and are in their possession.
If anything is going to change, tell us how??
@224 José Malvinero,
May 17th, 2013 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing l've said at post #223 is “crazy”.
You & your country are the crazy ones.
You don't know your history, all you know are the lies that you were taught at school.
Peron admired Mussolini.
Mussolini told Peron that the British were weak & you could take what you liked from them.
Unfortunately for you Argentines, you have found out the hard way, that Britain is NOT weak & you CANNOT take what you like from us.
Awhile back, you made some statements that Argentina owned South Georgia etc.
l have asked you why you think this & for your proof.
Then you descended into insults because you KNOW that you cannot prove it & you KNOW that Argentina does NOT own South Georgia.
You made the statement, now you prove it.
You are the Tonita or Tonto.
Prove it, bobo, if you can.
@212 Hepatia
May 17th, 2013 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“““As an aside I do not know why you persist in vomiting up you talking points in response to my posts. They may be true, or they may not, but it doesn't matter. I'm sure that there are many other commenters will be happy to debate their merits with you, but not I.”
@228
I said,
”Don't you remember? You said @212 that you would make untrue statements, but you would not discuss them.
“The Islands belong to the Falklanders now and are in their possession.”
LOL, Hepatia!!!
You have not responded - just as you said!!
Obviously, your statement was a “throwaway” - a cheap LIE!
You have shown us how lazy and stupid you really are.
Fair game for every thinking person to disregard what you post as simple garbage with no basis in reality.
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