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Cristina Fernandez will veto constitutional reform even from her militant lawmakers
Argentine President Cristina Fernández is not turning back on her word and even if Kirchnerite lawmakers propose and agree on a constitutional reform, she would certainly veto it, said Senator Aníbal Fernández. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesShe's be mad to! Though I do notice its not her thats saying it =) And by the way, what do those who oppose re-election think of any other potential changes to the constitution, since this began with a discussion of judicial reform; do you just want to keep Critina out, or is every word of that ancient (from 1994!) document sacred to you...
May 16th, 2013 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”“ do you just want to keep Cretina out”“”
May 16th, 2013 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well there must be SOME lucid people in Argentina.
The gas cuts are already starting and it is not even winter yet!
May 16th, 2013 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0How long can Dow, Ford and GM put up with this mess?
Not long, not long at all.
My bet is she'll either be dead or in jail way before her term expires.
Christina is quite happy to leave and spend her hard embezzled swiss bank savings. Her cronies want to keep her in power because they haven't stolen enough yet to flee abroad and escape any retribution.
May 16th, 2013 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes the constitution from 1994 is so ancient, that it talks about the mythical Islas Malvinas.
May 16th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0On more than one occasion the Argentine constitution hasn't been worth the paper it is written on. Thankfully changes to this constitution only affect Argentineans. So unless there are enough of them willing to stop these “reforms” then they deserve to live with the consequences.
If that means Argentina can reelect CFK then so be it. It will probably only hasten the absolute decline against countries such as mine.
I think it is so funny when facts don't line up with teh nutty RG liars on this board.
May 16th, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The border between Paraguay and Argentina collapsed because people ae trying to exchange $ and buy toilet paper and other essentials that they can't get in Argentina any longer.
SInce the lines of cars are so long people are walking 3K!!
Bahahaha
Reading Rg news makes me so happy to be American
Is this guy (Anibal the cannibal) from Barcelona!
May 16th, 2013 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0He bears a passing resemblance to Basil Fawlty's mate Manuel.
No can't be, Manuel was a nice little guy who had a political nous far in excess of Anibal the cannibal's
Argentina's near term future:
May 16th, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/16/venezuela-toilet-paper-shortage-50m
Venezuela hopes to wipe out toilet paper shortage by importing 50m rolls
Minister blames shortage on 'excessive demand caused by media campaign generated to disrupt the country'
whatever ck and her gangmembers say: It´s a lie.
May 16th, 2013 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 I was chatting with a friend in Buenos Aires last evening. She had been over to Colonia to withdraw some dollars from her account there and she said how shocked she was at the long lines at the ATMs. She had read about it but still was not prepared for the enormity of the whole business that has grown out of desperation for dollars. The ferries are huge and tickets are sold for a return of just a couple of hours. They are even offering remises when you return on the boat to Buenos Aires because people are scared of being robbed for their dollars. As she said “it’s all “unofficial”, but it seems the biggest unofficial movement of people and money ever.”
May 16th, 2013 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 Yankeeboy . Magnificent !
May 16th, 2013 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0little man + big moustache = little man who thinks hes a big man
May 16th, 2013 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shes trying to appear humble 'I believe in democracy and the reform is out of my hands' whilst her dependents do the campaigning for her.
CFK will stay until the very last moment urged by her ego and greed and her fellow thieving greedy cronies. Unfortunately she will not be going to jail and she will not be lynched. She will be 'exiled' to Santa Cruz or at worst she'll have to flee to fellow Bolivarian messhole.
I agree. I don't think CFK will ever face trial for all her corrupt and larcenous acts. Her health is deteriorating fast and she will play the 'unfit to stand trial' card. She really is a very sick woman which is the real reason she does not want to run for another term. I am guessing they are busy trying to hide the trail to the money and taking control of the judiciary so CFK's goons and, in particular her son, cannot be prosecuted.
May 16th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think CFK will run to Venezuela or Cuba because the heat aggravates her health problems. She may well live out her days 'exiled' to Santa Cruz.
#6
May 16th, 2013 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy, I remember the same shortage in Chile during Allende. It really does upset people when it's not available.
The Constitution is a laugh a minute read, these are the first two clauses:
May 16th, 2013 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Section 1.- The Argentine Nation adopts the federal republican representative form of government, as this Constitution establishes.
Section 2.- The Federal Government supports the Roman Catholic Apostolic religion.
So no statement about 'democracy' but they maintain ”the delusion of the ages.”
I suspect there will be an even bigger delusion shortly: one where the ordinary citizen thinkd their pesos is woth a roll of toilet paer from the 50M being imported by their mates up north.
Anglotino, Yankee, ChrisR, Elaine
May 16th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you noticed that BK has stepped in, forcibly and omnipresent on all threads, while 'Think' and 'Stevie' are both absent at the same time.
Must be R&R for them, Rest & Re-programming.
They really were aggressive and prolific for a good long period recently.
Looks like they were very intent on supporting Maduro and trying to DEFLECT the soaring inflation and economic woes of Argentina.
BK is just throwing out his cheap diversionary tactics, “CFK is beautiful and everything she does is inspired and wonderful!”
I wonder if he posts this crap for our benefit or hers???!
Saving president Cristina
May 16th, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/131182/saving-president-cristina
17. Dictators always overstay their welcome.
May 16th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 yankeeboy
May 16th, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't ask argentina to supply some? We are always saying that they peso is worth about as much as toilet paper...
#13 ” I don't think CFK will run to Venezuela or Cuba because the heat aggravates her health problems2
May 16th, 2013 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, Britain and especially Scotland is colder than them =) But I don't think she'll have to “run” anywhere; even if she doesn't get the 3rd term she so rivhly deserves (and she certainly looks healthy enough to stay on for at least one more term!) she'll either stay as the spiritual mentor of the next government, like the retired Lula and Fidel, or else enter determined opposition in the unlikely event of a right wing government
#16 Actually Think disagrees with me about re-election; but comrades don't have to agree about every tactic to respect each other =) I don't know what Stevie thinks about it...
@17 LOL! It is funny how the trolls on here use the exact same tactics as the government of CFK. They attack the messenger and blame some huge conspiracy for their ills. I never thought any of the CFK supporters here were working for her government as none of them live in Argentina but it does make one wonder.
May 16th, 2013 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 You can think what you want but your assertions are based on pure fantasy whereas mine as based on actual experience and factual information. CFK is very sick woman.
I wonder at what point in the demise of CFK's government her main supporters will disappear from this forum. So many have come and gone over time when they have been proved completely wrong.
DOn't you just hate when this happens, As shown by Nestor ! damm vaults: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WSOGm-lGfs&feature=player_embedded
May 16th, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(14) Chicureo
May 16th, 2013 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say....:
“I remember the same shortage in Chile during Allende. It really does upset people when it's not available.”
I say....:
Do you also remember how, miraculously, all shops had plenty toilet paper to sell just 48 hours after the military coup?
(20) British_Kirchnerist
Yes, I disagree with you about “rushing in” a third presidential term in Argentina.
But we agree on many other topics.......
About the looks of our current president, Sra. Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner........, I only can say that:
1) In Argentina, any woman over 40 is a “Vieja”......
2) At +60, this “Vieja” is quite enchanting.....
3) If one considers her intellect too...., she is just ravishing ;-)
@20 Let's be sensible. Shoot the bitch. In the face. Then, to be sure, empty another thousand rounds in a pattern. Then pour the remains into a sewage disposal works. Most important, take pictures before the dregs are poured into sewage disposal works. Send copies to BK. Offer similar disposal of another useless slug. In any event, remove all civil protection. Not unreasonable for BK to be executed by any public-spirited citizen. Not a problem. Birds, rats, foxes will dispose of “remains”. Very “natural”.
May 16th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20,23 BK and Thinkedover
May 16th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“//// CFK /////// jajajajajajaja ///”,
Isn't that right, Trolls
Will it take 1 or 2 more days to start to see blackouts in BA?
May 16th, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is 1 anyone else?
brr
bahahahaha
Sorry lads
May 16th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But ive got to agree with CFK this time,
CFK== it’s your constitution is it not, and you must keep it safe next to your chest,
It’s yours and no one else’s,
If you want to change your private constitution to put you in power for another 5-10-20 odd years that’s your choice,
You are the best thing to happen in Argentina,
And the best friend Britain has at the UN,
The best comedian the world has seen since comedy ally,
Even your human rights record is admired by North Korea,
You even make your lies look like Christmas presents for the masses,
Your bloggers adore you,
All over the world they give praise to you desperately trying to get back to the mother land to fight for the anointed one,
Yep CFK you keep going like this and you will the first South American leader
To destroy what was a wealthy prosperous country,
And all in the name of your very own vanity,
Keep up the good work, the lies crawling crying sobbing, and greedy incompetence
Is getting Argentina noticed from the dustbin to the gutter.
Live long and prosper==
And keep the clap at bay,
Clap clap clap..
.
#21 I'm not here supporting Cristina just because she's in power, look what I say about the likes of Cameron or even Obama! If the going gets tough I'll rally round. Whether I'll keep debating with the likes of you on this forum forever, even if the going doesn't get tought, I'm not so sure =)
May 16th, 2013 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#23 Enchanting and ravishing indeed, shame you want to fire her =) Though perhaps her intellect and fighting spirit can still make a great contribution as a post-president, so I shouldn't despair of the fact she seems to currently agree more with you than me on this tactical issue! If I recall right I think we may also agree on the fine qualities of Mercedes; another potential Presidenta do you think?
If she could keep her wig straight....
May 16th, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I used to have a bi-polar boss, CFK has the same look a lot of days now.
I think the massive dosage of lithium is really taking a toll.
Someone should also take away her Twitter access
that is just getting embarrassing
27 briton
May 16th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brilliant! :o)
#29 “I used to have a bi-polar boss”
May 16th, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's a lot of madness in banking, isn't there?!
“Someone should also take away her Twitter access
that is just getting embarrassing”
Rubbish, her lucid soliloquies on twitter and facebook, speaking directly to her people and the world, really put the trite hackish politicians of the English speaking world to shame. If she can express herself so well why can't any world leader do it in the languauge of Shakespeare?!
B_K , no you are here because you are paid and Think and Nostril are on a break. We are here wondering at your country slipping into the shit minute by minute as someone who bribes the poor to vote for her and is totally out of her depth financially screws Rgland to line her own pockets. Hilarious.
May 16th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#32 But me, Think and “Nostril” all have different views; if I remember right, “Nostril” doesn't even like Cristina! You just can't seem to comprehend more than one person disagreeing with you...
May 16th, 2013 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33BK
May 17th, 2013 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“#32 But me, Think and “Nostril” all have different views; if I remember right, “Nostril” doesn't even like Cristina! You just can't seem to comprehend more than one person disagreeing with you...”
What a load of cods wallop !!
As opinionated, arrogant, and full of yourselves, as you are, not one of you “Flying Monkeys” would dare say a peep against the evil witch and her government.
To her, you are as emasculated drones!
Think: In spirit I would say that by the end of December, the black market collapsed as there was practically everything freely available. IF you had the money. Alas, no more USSR frozen fish blocks...
May 17th, 2013 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0#34 I stand by what I said about Nostril, I think his position is he doesn't particularly like Cristina but puts up a united front against the foreigners. Also I once had to pull him up for sexism to the lovely lady! Plus his and Think's positions on the Falklands are completely different, and mine, as a Brit who sees it in our own real interests to engage with Cristina, is different again =)
May 17th, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0one says what the editer and writers say you say,
May 17th, 2013 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0its more of a emmerdale or eastenders
and you all read out your little bit .lol.
I hope Crissy knows they don't allow wigs in USA prisons.
May 17th, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK is trying to cheat all of us again. Does she understang that the counry is in flames again? Thank's to her “brilliant” leadership...
May 17th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, Constitution must be changed to ban peronism !!!
Cristina..remember....remember...remember...Gadaffi..leave the power peacefully leaves the power while you can.
@36BK
May 17th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”#34 I stand by what I said about Nostril, I think his position is he doesn't particularly like Cristina but puts up a united front against the foreigners. Also I once had to pull him up for sexism to the lovely lady! Plus his and Think's positions on the Falklands are completely different, and mine, as a Brit who sees it in our own real interests to engage with Cristina, is different again =)”
BK
You're making it all up.
There has been nothing on MP to indicate any difference between the 3 of you.
You are all saying the same thing.
We're not party to your internal emails and discussions, so only you would know.
Toby Teen Troll has certainly revealed himself as a misogynist, and socially inept, amongst other things.
#38 Its her real hair, and even prison wouldn't mar her beauty! But what an arrogant know-nothing b*stard you are, to think she'd end up in a *US* prison; how could that ever come about?!
May 17th, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#39 At least you've returend the conversation to the original topic, rather than this boring sidetrack about me, Think and Toby. I note that no-one has taken up my question about whether they just don't want the constition ammended to allow re-election, or if they see every letter of that ancient (est 1994) document as eternally sacrosant. I mean, surely Cristina could forego re-election yet reform the sections on the judicial branch, for example?
#40 “There has been nothing on MP to indicate any difference between the 3 of you”
Except when we argue! =)
BK
May 17th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Except when we argue!”
I don't remember seeing that on MP - must have been internal emails.
“Argue”? Do you mean like 'Think' and 'Surfer'/Think???
@41 Argentina does not need a new National Constitution, it needs respect to the current one in its writting and in its spirit.
May 17th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Laws such as the Judicial Reform, the Sharing Act and plenty of regulations of the AFIP and the BCRA are unconstitucional. And should not be applied.
The Country does not need any change in its constitution. CFK and some politicians (basically the Peronists) need a change for their personal advantage.
Come BK you must be far to young for her,
May 17th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0besides tinman is nearer her age ..
The fanaticism of some Peronists is so great that CFK end up being seen as a beautiful woman while she is simply a politician with the most utter disregard for her people. 100% fascist !!!
May 17th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Eva Peron was inded a beautiful woman but as she had died young she transcended to history with her best appearance.
Not even an old man can say that CFK is a beautiful woman !!!
CHRIST the whole of South America must be shitting themselves if they have run out of toilet paper
May 17th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#42 Me and Think have dicussed our disagreements on re-election a few times, including on this thread, and you yourself seem to have acknowledged I called Nostril out for sexism to Cristina, so you don't have a leg to stand on
May 18th, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0#43 “The Country does not need any change in its constitution”
So in your opinion the messy compromise Menem negotiated for his own benefit in 1994 is the last word in constitutional perfection, forever! Not a very credible position if you think about it but at least your honest =)
#45 As a younger man, I can honestly say Cristinita is even more beautiful than Evita =)
@47 BSK
May 18th, 2013 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are aware that Evita was nothing other than a whore, are you not?
@47BK
May 18th, 2013 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“#42 Me and Think have dicussed our disagreements on re-election a few times, including on this thread, and you yourself seem to have acknowledged I called Nostril out for sexism to Cristina, so you don't have a leg to stand on”
As I mentioned earlier, your “arguments” are like the “arguments” between Think's main persona and his “Surfer” persona, contrived.
Toby “Nostril” is a misogynist, but your message is the same. You only differ in very minor details.
That's “Nostril” in the middle:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=3+stooges&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SpyXUdqrIMmQiALgh4CgDQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=320&bih=416#biv=i%7C2%3Bd%7CNsfGjN_qtWqbyM%3A
#47 I know thats what she was accused of by her enemies, without proof...
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