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Falklands’ lawmakers meet Chaco human rights group following formal Argentine request
On request from a group of human rights representatives from Chaco, Argentina, Falkland Islands lawmakers met and listened to their views on a number of issues resulting from the 1982 war. The meeting followed a formal request from the group directly to the Falklands elected Legislative Assembly. Read full article
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May 16th, 2013 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its just a shame that
1, Argentina don’t recognised your rights,
2, the human rights brigade has not requested this in reverse,
But , as they say, little acorns grow
And you never know what this might achieve /
Good luck..
.
It is quite extraordinary that the Falkland Islands Government can behave in such a dignified and responsible way, and are always open and responsive when small groups in Argentina are prepared to behave likewise.
May 16th, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Contrast with the hysterical screeching, lies, childishness and unprofessional hypocrisy of the central Argentine Government.
Shame on them
This is a very weird article, very vague and unclear in its wording; on the face of it this seems like a big mistake for any Argentine group trying to get a hearing with the wider Argie public to make, but maybe it would become more clear if we got the whole story?
May 16th, 2013 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“weird” in that it contains no ranting colonialist Argentines burning Union flags whilst screaming Malvinias! Malvinas!?
May 16th, 2013 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, indeed.
very odd... I didnt know that rational Argentines existed outside of old history books.
“oh Yes>>>”
It's a real shame the Arg National government can't share the same level of maturity a real shame indeed !! oh well we live in hope the next government will act like grown ups...
May 16th, 2013 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#4 No, weird in the lack of detail and formulaic phrases; reminds me of the worst habits of the old Soviet press actually!
May 16th, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2, 5
May 16th, 2013 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which country in this world deserves “maturity” from the Argentine government?
7teen troll Toby
May 16th, 2013 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Which country in this world deserves “maturity” from the Argentine government?”
Any country, but the first obligation that the Argentine government has is to deal maturely with it's own citizens, the Chacos people of Argentina, and other ordinary Argentinians.
I am sure you would agree, right?
How could you not?
I'm waiting to hear whatever 'exception' you might come up with.
It would have to be very creative.
Troy don't you find toby's statement laughable. Essentially he is saying that is a country is undeserving, then they will act immature. Obviously no country in the world is deserving......explains Argentina's consistent whining and crying and immaturity.
May 16th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for BK.......he needs extremely detailed articles because he bases his worldly opinions on reading and not experiencing first hand......such a waste.
You are correct C.P, based on how other countries treat us, no one deserves our respect. When your nations stop being utter hypocrites, then perhaps.
May 17th, 2013 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8
In general you are correct, but how the Argentine government treats its own citizens is an internal argentine matter. I find it rather amusing the Falklands gets involved in an internal argentine affair, invitation or no invitation. I thought they believed in “self-determination”.
Comrade ;-) British_Kirchnerist….
May 17th, 2013 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please find attached a couple of links about this “SOVIET PRAVDA” styled article……
There are in Spanish, of course, but technology today is better than during the “SOVIET PRAVDA” time.....
Anyhow, the trip of the Argentinean war veterans, provincial authorities and human rights activists to the Malvinas Islands had only one purpose:
*** The final identification of our NN war dead buried in Malvinas. ***
For this purpose only, they met, as clearly and correctly stated in the linked articles, with the “BRITISH AUTHORITIES IN MALVINAS”
http://www.datachaco.com/noticias/view/19997
http://www.datachaco.com/noticias/view/19997
Greetings.....
El Think, Patagonia, Argentina.
@10 TobyTeenTroll
May 17th, 2013 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I find it rather amusing the Falklands gets involved in an internal argentine affair, invitation or no invitation. I thought they believed in “self-determination”.
Hmmm, sad that YOU would find it ”rather amusing“ that Argentinian War Veterans would ask for an audience with the Falklanders, because their own government has no compassion and has cast them aside.
As the article said,
”However, whilst we may listen to their views on a variety of issues, on the specific issue of DNA testing we have made it very clear that we can only consider any practical action if and when we receive a request from the International Red Cross which must have the full and unequivocal support of the Families Commission in Argentina.”
As stated, the Falklands listened as a courtesy (look that word up too, Toby), but the FIG cannot and will not act, until the International Aid bodies and Pfgivial Argentine entities request and approve actions.
Still, no aid or cooperation coming for them from the 'benevolent' government of CFK.
This is not a new story.
It's been 10 years since they pleaded with Nestor K. for recognition of their plight.
Now, in desperation, they turn to the very people they previously wronged for compassion.
Why?
Because the Falklsnders understand and the Brits treated them better than their own officers and countrymen.
Toby, you are not worthy to speak of real Patriots of Argentina. You are as callous and barren in your heart as CFK and her crooks and thugs.
11 Think
May 17th, 2013 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for posting the real story, not that I believed MercoPenguin version for a second.
@11 and 13
May 17th, 2013 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looking at your link to the “real” story, it appears the same as the MP version. Some Argentinians travelled to the FIs, met with the government and then went to the Argentine cemetery. They recognised that regarding identification, the British had done their best but the block occurred in Argentina. What did I miss?
If you are clinging to “British authorities” rather than FIG then your hair splitting might make you feel better but means nothing in reality. Surely it's worse to recognise British “authority”?
10 TroLLey_to_Truth
May 17th, 2013 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You are correct C.P, based on how other countries treat us, no one deserves our respect. When your nations stop being utter hypocrites, then perhaps”
LOLZ!!! Pot, Kettle, black!!!
You have only to look at the news stories on this web site to know how much “regard” your government has for anyone... it's neighbours, it's “friends” and the people who elected them into power.
Broken promises, lying, cheating, not listening to it's own people to name but 3 failings
It is of little surprise that they have turned to the Falklands elected Legislative Assembly, it also goes to show how little they trust their own government in such matters
Hey Argies. Have you hear about Premier Oil being awarded blocks in Brazil? So much for Latin American solidarity :)
May 17th, 2013 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/premier-oil-gains-exploration-foothold-092059711.html
Alert! FI related article showing Argentine government up as spineless amoral incompetents; divert, deflect, distract!
May 17th, 2013 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0And nice to see the born-again racist TTT back with his playground politics. They are mean to me, so am going to be mean back. Think through the provocation the FIG have had to put up with, then check out integrity and dignified in your well thumbed dictionary...
Re Premier Oil .... Well, well, well (pun intended) ... Premier know a pretty good oil exploration company they could work with on this... What was the name again? Rockhopper I think?
#11 “Anyhow, the trip of the Argentinean war veterans, provincial authorities and human rights activists to the Malvinas Islands had only one purpose:
May 17th, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0*** The final identification of our NN war dead buried in Malvinas. ***
For this purpose only, they met, as clearly and correctly stated in the linked articles, with the “BRITISH AUTHORITIES IN MALVINAS””
Thanks for that new and relevant info, does kinda put a different spin on things from the original spin =)
@18
May 17th, 2013 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0BK are you a state-registered idiot or have you been practising on your own.
The links you are so keen on also refer to the “Malvinas” and as there is no such place as the “Malvinas” the rest of their translation from English can be disregarded as having been “edited” for Argentine stupidos
How many times do you have to be told that the FI are self-governing? Not that it is any business of yours anyway.
Think-Marcos and BK- You are free of course to believ and fantasize as nuch as you like in your Country and splutter on about this myhtical place callerd puerto Argentinno - it is so funny that you condemn the military junta - yet praise their actions in inventing false names!
May 17th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0But whatever you fantasize in - the simple hard FACT and REALITY is that the only Government and People who will have the FINAL say in any issues of exhumation etc is the Elected Government and People of the Falkland Islands.
And you can bet very heavily and in reality that the result would be-
Either those boys stay in peace with their God where they have laid for over 30 years undisturbed.
Or:
They are ALL humanley exhumed and returned permanently to their Country of origen where you can do whatever you wish with them.
The choice would be yours.
@6 I don't understand your problem. You undoubtedly read the argie government-dictated press. I would have thought that you would be accustomed to the worst habits of the old latino-style Soviet press!
May 17th, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10 I don't understand your gripe either. IF you go abroad, assuming that Mummy dictator lets you, don't other countries let you in? They do. So what are you whining about? If you were to act like honest, intelligent, mature, responsible people, perhaps things would be better? After the initial 50 years of shock and disbelief. On your second point, I'm inclined to agree with you. Certainly, if I were in the Falkland Islands Government, I wouldn't have allowed this bunch of whingeing, gibbering timewasters into the country.
@11 Loved those articles. As I recall, Soviet-style reporting followed much the same pattern. Important to list all of those present, right down to the 3rd assistant car polisher, so that the people “back home” would know that he/she wasn't on their way to a gulag!
@18 It's hard to get a grip on your perverted delusions. Is it because you can't afford to travel to argieland and climb into CFK's 60-year old pants? Or that you've been told that you have to wait your turn? And only group bookings are acceptable? A gibberish-speaking foreign “journalist” is told to write an article. Also told what words to use. The article is written complying with the instructions. And you believe it? Frankly, I don't care what sad, perverted delusions you have. But it's really not in your interest to make them public. If it's part of your “therapy” I suppose we could go along with it. If you still have any cognitive ability, consider this. Chimps have tea-parties. It doesn't make them human! You write comments. It doesn't make you human either!
@20 I fully agree with you. Although not with some of your spelling! Dig 'em up. Toss 'em in a container and ship it. In large letters, paint “NOT WANTED ON FALKLANDS” on the side.
And the idiot Dick always with same chip imported from CaMoron factory in his shoulder repeating the same that none care to hear.
May 17th, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then people ask why British are a falling society...
@11 Think
May 17th, 2013 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you make of Eduardo Aguilar comments?
'In another publication, Aguilar said that “Malvinas has a landscape typically English and island, in the sense of not Argentine.” Instead the surrender was signed in which rises a monolith British casualties that says ' memory that we released - June 14, 1982´. This place is on a street that is called ' Thatcher Drive´ “.”
”All the houses and all cars are littered with English flags and the island (blue, with a sheep from one side and the flag of England from the other). And all trades has propaganda of the recent referendum in which 99% chose British sovereignty, with the slogan ' our islands, our choice: YES´ (our islands, our choice, if) “, he said, and concluded, as a reflection:”It's strange to feel that this place is so foreign at the same time and so own”....'
http://www.datachaco.com/noticias/view/20027
DannyB - care to explain in English what you said as it does not make any sense at all! What has a elected member of our Govt got in connection with the british PM is this topic? And What has Dick said that is wrong?
May 17th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or would you perhaps have preferred if our Elected Govt representatives refused to speak to some from Argentina who are visiting here?
Do please explain yourself .
Answer is nothing as this has nothing to do with UK.
(23) Steve-33-uk
May 17th, 2013 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ask….:
What do you make of Eduardo Aguilar comments?
I say…:
Firstly, let’s agree on what Mr. Eduardo Aguilar said…..
I assume you are referring to his ”Finishing Line”….:
*** “Es extraño sentir que este lugar es tan propio y tan ajeno al mismo tiempo.” ***
My humble translation into English would be….:
*** ”It is strange to feel this place being so much ours and so alien at the same time.” ***
What do I make of his comment……?
Well…… I do understand it quite well…..!
For a Northern Argentinean like him; Patagonia is a “strange place”.
Seeing Malvinas being alienated by foreigners must certainly be even stranger.
For us, Patagonians….., on the other hand...., there are very few alien things in Malvinas….
Same air, same water, same soil, same flora, same fauna, same weather, same corrugated steel houses, same bloody sheep all over, same “too much cake for tea”, etc, etc, etc……..you name it.
The only alien things I could mention, from the top of my head, would be them Colonial Squatters with their omnipresent Union Jacks plastered all over.
Very BNP....
Very UKIP.....
“Then people ask why British are a falling society...”
May 17th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which people ? It only appears to be you that is making this comment. On different threads to try and give it some credibility.
Mr Campora - a request if I may .. your posters have run out of steam, are making increasingly weak statements and are giving up the fight. Can we have some new ones please?
Think- I guess you agree then it is also so very BNP at UKIP when flags appear all over the streets and cars in Buenos Aires when your team wins a big International match?
May 17th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(27) Islander1
May 17th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look around you, lad........
Are you Kelpers winning a big International match 24/7/365.....?
Juppp....
Very BNP indeed..........
Ah Think, your dose of ironic Argentine wit really makes me feel safe in the knowledge that Argentina will never prevail. Especially, if you are the best they have got to offer.
May 17th, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Think, poor poor Think alien to another land in Northern Europe unable to live in his motherland due to his association with THE DISSAPEARED
May 17th, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think- guess nobody ever told you- we started doing it about 18 months ago for one reason- to make it very clear to all Argentine visitors that this land is OURS - not THEIRS.
May 17th, 2013 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simple as that old chap.
We are pround of our Country - and from the flags one sees out on May 25th in Argentina- Argentines are also proud of their country.
I could agree that over the years it has sadly become politically “incorrect” to show you are English of you are and live in England! And if somebody overt there does- they tend to get branded BNP just because that lot of thugs seem to be able to get away with waving the flag of St George.
(29) M_of_FI
May 17th, 2013 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Irony”?
What “Irony” ???
I could show you hundreds of windy, desolated places in Patagonia almost identical to them windy, desolated places in Malvinas......
You wouldn't know if you were 20, 200 or 2,000 miles from your Puerto Estanley home, lad.
@ Think,poor poor Think I love it when this piece of Argentine crap squatting in Northern Europe ignores my post I am like scabies I get under his skin-how's the weather in Scandinavia Think hope it's not to cold almost similar to Patagonia I guess
May 17th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25thinkedover
May 17th, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Parts of Patagonia may look the same as the Falklands, but the difference is, we aren't claiming Patagonia is ours.
The Swiss Alps look much like our Canadian Rockies, complete with chalets, but we are not claiming those as ours either.
Stupid argument you are making. You must be desperate if that's all you have.
'Argentina seeks mineral assets only - I am writing with regard to the article “Argentine envoy lobbies for Saudi support on Falklands” (May 15). Reports that the Argentine ambassador to the Kingdom is attempting to embroil Saudi Arabia in potentially supporting Argentina in its long-running dispute with Britain about the Falkland Islands, highlight a real cause for international concern...'
May 17th, 2013 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130517166067
'Sea Lion offshore Falklands approaching FEED stage'
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130517166067
'Defense minister says South Atlantic can occur without militarization - The expansion of the naval activities of the Navy of Brazil towards Africa comes at a time when the United States, Britain and other powers also show interest in the South Atlantic According to the defense minister, Celso Amorim, Brazil defends security in the region, but not its militarization....'
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130517166067
'Falklands, after 31 years of war - 14 photos taken by a photographer for the daily Paulista O Globo described the beauty of the images more than just snapshots.'
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130517166067
'Died former Argentine dictator Jorge Videla'
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130517166067
'UN adopts resolution on decolonization of French Polynesia - The UN General Assembly approved a resolution Friday to French Polynesia added to the list of territories to be decolonized, despite the defeat of the separatists in the last election and pressure from Paris...France on Thursday sent a letter to other members of the UN in which he announced he would not participate in the debate...'
http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20130517166067
Think
May 17th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our Aussie mate tells me you've finally made such a mess up with your Dover charade that you've decided to shelve it. Who else did the boys think you were? Was it Surfer? How many other personas do you have old man?
Nice try with the whole Dover BS but you over cooked it; nobody believed it.
Credibility check anyone?
Chuckle chuckle.
All the Argentine bodies should be returned to Argentina where they belong and this will enable easy identification and visiting.
May 17th, 2013 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 you couldn't show us anything of Patagonia numbnuts, well not from Sweden anyway, I seriously doubt if you ever been there, but are receiving money from TMBOA to top up your student loan, still as doderyoverdover you sound even stupider Royal Navy officer my arse, you are an insult to anyone who risked there lives at sea being it military, fishermen, merchant etc. LOWLIFE. Your only on here because beer costs to much in Sweden and need some spending money
May 17th, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(36) Joe Bloggs
May 17th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect that Mr. McDod will be back as soon as MercoPress publishes some article of his interest......
Any news about rebellious Colonials or good news about Oil in the Malvinas normally attract his attention.
As I have said many times before….. There is only one “Think”, no pseudonyms needed.
Besides, if you don’t believe in me…..
Why do you call me old?
Why do you call me a man?
@ Think says Why do you call me a man? we don't we call you a plonker to afraid to live under the rule of your beloved Crissy Kirchner what you afraid of Think????
May 17th, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 039
May 17th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why did you choose Royal Navy for your Dover? I mean it was far less plausible from the moment you did that. I guess you had to stick to something you knew a little about.
How many more chess moves now?
Credibility check anyone?
Chuckle chuckle?
(41) Joe Bloggs
May 17th, 2013 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll repeat once again..............…..
There is only one “Think”, no pseudonyms needed................
...and one Dover and one Surf, etc.
May 17th, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to go back for refresher training:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvvwNR3vF44
(43) Joe Bloggs
May 17th, 2013 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll repeat again, again..............…..
There is only one “Think”, no pseudonyms needed................
@44 correct there is only one idiot who lives in Sweden/dover/ wherever, your pathetic mate, if I was CFK you be gone by now for not fulfilling your contract although you speak a load of shite it's just not good enough compared to hers
May 17th, 2013 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Think So when you going back to Argentina? the Botox queen is desperate for plonkers like you to drain taxes from
May 17th, 2013 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 Think: Same wind...
May 17th, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Premier Oil and Rockhopper have secured a drilling rig to drill 4 wells in the Sea lion discovery in 2014. FSPO is being sourced as we speak, not sure if leased or new.
May 17th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@46 he's / it's not allowed back too many dollars probably, apparently he's got 10 left from his student loan
May 17th, 2013 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ slattzzz, rumour as it Think was a one time Argentine pilot offering one way trips over The south Atlantic
May 17th, 2013 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 050
May 17th, 2013 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fly/dive package?
Very popular with nuns apparently
May 17th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50 possibly it's been everything else, a senior engineer on a merchantman running out of Montevideo, a Royal Navy officer disguised as a doddery bloke who frequents the British legion in Dover to a teen student in Sweden . You tell me, perhaps he was a Kamikaze pilot in WW2, cause it always crashes and burns when ever it opens it's mouth.
May 17th, 2013 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I understand it the deal also included free airport transfer from your home.
May 17th, 2013 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 One way ticket?
May 17th, 2013 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How civilised the FALKLAND ISLAND GOVERNMENT is.
May 17th, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How can they dig up the war dead ( Argies ) and take DNA samples without the Red Cross and the Argentinian Authorities consent. It will not happen as everyone knows that the KIRCHER Government asserts that the war dead are on Argentinian soil. Poor deluded souls.
(47) Malvinense 1833
May 17th, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say....:
@25 Think: Same wind…..
I say...:
Well........ To be completely faithful to the truth; the breeze in Malvinas is a tad stronger than in most of Patagonia under 1,200 meters of altitude.
@57 but the breeze from the Falklands smells better, clean, free, fresh air instead of B*^lls*”t, how's the air in Sweden Numpty, pretty bad I'd imagine with the crap that generates from your bowels. The only time the air in the Falklands smells bad is when there's a wind from the west, thankfully it's usually a prevailing southerly
May 17th, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Think, You will be even madder when the oil starts flowing and the poor Argentines will be dining on tuff Patagonian lamb and cheap red wine while the Islanders dine on the finest food and sip the best Champagne
May 17th, 2013 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think- sorry have to disagree! Spent a few years near Rio Gallegos in camp, and boy - when it blew there it blew far harder than I have known it to blow here at home!
May 17th, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe Chubut is a bit calmer? - but I recall some damn windy days in Comodoro Rivadavia at times.
Is that old wrecked car still up on a plinth as you drive around the cliffedge between the airport and the town? It was a very sobering sight!
Sorry, but what was the wind got to do with a human rights visit to the FALKLANDS, am I missing something?
May 17th, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinese and Think
May 17th, 2013 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trying to draw vague meteorological comparisons between one country and another 300 miles to the west merely shows how thin your arguments are. Last year an industrial smell reached the UK from France while the year before that an agricultural smell from Germany crossed England. Despite this gaseous proximity we do not claim to own France or Germany. And that despite the fact we once occupied Calais for decades and more recently parts of Germany. I have relatives buried in WW1 cemeteries in both France and Belgium - but again I understand that this does not mean therefore that I own France & Belgium.
Regarding the story, I hope the families of the dead can finally find peace.
I need some Falkland Islander B and B address's please as I intend to visit nx year...!
May 17th, 2013 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 Admiral Thinko
May 17th, 2013 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what amerindians make of the alien latin culture in their individual bits of South America? The hypocrisy would be hilarious if it was not for the tragedy that is left in the wake of the 'Argentinean's' incompetent exploitation of a huge chunk of South America.
@63 El capitano: perhaps you should email the FIG to “NEGOCIAR” setting up a little tin hut at a sewer outlet. Being an “Argentinean”, this should be very homely for you.
A story: the blue pullover
May 18th, 2013 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifzcNaAU6Fo
Thanks family Mulkenbuhr.
Thanks Lisa and Sharon.
@Redrow
May 18th, 2013 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0ha ha We had many wars until we have resolved some limits.
And there is no sense in comparing Europe with SA.
(60) Islander1
May 18th, 2013 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say…:
”Think- sorry have to disagree! Spent a few years near Rio Gallegos in camp, and boy - when it blew there it blew far harder than I have known it to blow here at home!”
I say…:
Now we are talking serious stuff, Kelper ……..................... THE WIND!!!
(No wonder that Pom Turnips at (61) & (62) are ”Missing It”… They ”Miss” so much.......)
Anyhow…:
Your experience in continental Argentina must have been, either a subjective perception or you hitting a particularly breezy century in Santa Cruz.
Besides, I think you are being too kind and modest when saying that our gentle air puffs are stronger than your tempests.
The evidence on the contrary are overwhelming….
Not only is the Kelper forwards bending gradient when walking against the wind far greater than ours……; the size of your English bodies seems to have, in best Darwinian spirit, evolved during the last decades, gaining some strones to stand their ground in the worst of gales ;-)
@66 Dany
May 18th, 2013 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your forefathers signed an act of settlement with Britain, therefore your limits have been perfectly well resolved. Peron thought he could make a quick imperial land-grab but ended up backing the wrong horse, there would be no national shame in reversing that error and restoring the previous settlement. As for fighting wars to resolve your limits, you fought and lost in 82. It sounds like for Argentina no treaty or war ever truly resolves anything.
Islander1:
May 18th, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is better to work together in the South Atlantic rather than arguing over little things.
Many islanders friends say this when come to visit here, in the mainland. Although I think there are people on both sides to try to stop this.
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May 18th, 2013 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0screennname#64..@63 El capitano: perhaps you should email the FIG to “NEGOCIAR” setting up a little tin hut at a sewer outlet. Being an “Argentinean”, this should be very homely for you . LOL...being an “Argentinean ” heh..?...Man oh man such paranoia,me thinks thou needs professional help my lil pixie...!!
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May 19th, 2013 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina urges the United Nations to revise decolonization process -
May 19th, 2013 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0The government today questioned the UK after its negative vote at the United Nations General Assembly “to place French Polynesia back on the UN list of territories that should be decolonised.” Additionally, the government renewed its claim over the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands territory.
The UN General Assembly yesterday affirmed “the inalienable right of the people of French Polynesia to self-determination and independence.” Four countries - the United Kingdom, the United States, Germany and the Netherlands - “all disassociated themselves from the consensus vote”.
Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman stated Argentina is convinced, “the UN shall revise the decolonization process.” “We demand it for Malvinas and all colonial enclaves still existing in the 21st century,” Timerman stressed....'
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/131365/malvinas-govt-questions-uk-on-its-vote-at-un-assembley
(73) Steve-33-uk
May 19th, 2013 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good link, but……..
What's your “Anglo Explanation” about England disassociating itself from the “Inalienable right of the Native People of French Polynesia to self-determination and independence?
And...; what's your “Anglo Justification” about England disassociating itself from the “Inalienable right of the Native People of Palestine to self-determination and independence?
And…...; what's your “Anglo Rationalization” about England disassociating itself from the “Inalienable right of the Native People of Diego Garcia to self-determination and independence?
And……....; what's your “Anglo Excuse” about England associating itself to the ”Imaginary rights of the Implanted Individuals of the Malvinas Isles to self-determination and independence?
Hypocrisy anybody?
#74
May 19th, 2013 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What Diego Garcian native PEOPLE -IMPLANTS, as you are wont to say about the Falkland Islanders. Descendants of slaves,
What implanted people in the Falklands - the implants were removed in 1833.
@Think
May 19th, 2013 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'What's your “Anglo Explanation” about England disassociating itself from the “Inalienable right of the Native People of French Polynesia to self-determination and independence?'
We haven't, if you read what the French have said... “the right to self-determination can not be exercised against the will of the populations concerned,”
If a referendum were held in FP tomorrow the majority would vote to stay French!
Holland, Germany and the USA are simply staying its up to the people of FP to decide their future, not for the UN to force them to be independent against their will.
As I have stated on several occasions, the UN wants all the NSGT to become independent nations, no exceptions.
Having just watched this here;
May 19th, 2013 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://webtv.un.org/watch/82nd-plenary-meeting-general-assembly/2390086690001/
The main event starts 25:30 and the disassociations at 40:00
From what I can make out the U.K. just think the decolonization committee is, on the whole, a bunch of lazy corrupt gobshites and won't support anything related to them at all.
Also I heard a lot of purdy words about self determination here for French Polynesia but the same people it seems would rather cut their tongues out than say the same in public about the Falklands.
(76) Steve-33-uk
May 19th, 2013 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say.....:
”We haven't (disassociated ourselves from the Inalienable right of the Native People of French Polynesia to self-determination and independence)..........., if you read what the French have said......“
I say....:
How very silly of me...
I ”forgot” to read what the French Masters have to say about this Colonial matter..
Sorry, Ingrish Sahib....
Won't happen again Bwana....
I promess, don't hit me, I promess....
Think-76- well spent 2 years there and remember some days on camp on horseback and it sure blew harder that I have ever known in camp here west and east!
May 19th, 2013 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do agree though that the Chaquenos would have been as lost in camp there as they were here - a far cry from the hot north!
69 Malinense 1833 - Could not agree more that things are best done together in the area. But with mutual respect for our national differences as well - so that we can agree to politley differ on those issues unresolvable - but work together on those of commonsense and mutual benefit.
@78thinkdover
May 19th, 2013 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile, in South America,
”Sorry, Don Think Argentino!!
Don't rape my wife, don't kill us,
Please, Patrone El Thinko, take Patagonia, we will say nothing, leave our child...
Sorry to have raised a hand against you to keep out home, don't beat us and leave us to die - we love the new Republic of Argentina!!!
You are the Master, here, just don't kick us...
Sorry sorry (whimper, cringe, grovel)”
Chancery denounces “double standard” in the UK on self-determination in the Malvinas.
May 19th, 2013 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telam.com.ar/notas/201305/18102-cancilleria-denuncia-una-doble-standard-del-reino-unido-sobre-la-autodeterminacion-en-malvinas.html
@81 so does that mean that self determination MUST apply to both French Polynesia AND the Falklands...? Surely that is what he is saying.
May 19th, 2013 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@82 trenchoast: No, UK shouts self-determination for Malvinas, and denies other people.
May 19th, 2013 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islander1: images Comodoro Rivadavia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96X8B974FvA
@83 Ah I see. But I see no evidence that they are denying French Polynesia the right to self determination, only registering a total lack of confidence in the decolonization committee and some doubts over procedure.
May 19th, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, i see i see, changing the subject: What is the menu, today sunday in Malvinas trenchtoast?.
May 19th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 Sr Think. How very perceptive of you, as usual.
May 19th, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@85 No need to get cross, this is all the nice lady from the U.K. said, nothing to get angry about.
May 19th, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Thank you very much. The United Kingdom disassociates itself from consensus on this resolution. The United Kingdom’s position on the United Nations Decolonization process is well known. We regret that the Decolonization committee continues with its outdated approach.
In Addition on this particular resolution the United Kingdom believes that it is not for the General Assembly to determine, in any particular case that an obligation exists for a state to submit information under article 73e of the United Nations Charter.”
@85Makvinese 1833
May 19th, 2013 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, he is still right-on topic.
The UK is supportive of Self-Determination, the inhabitants right to choose for themselves.
They very clearly agree with Self-Determination for the people of the Falklands.
YOU and Argentina are clearly opposed to SELF-Determination for the Falklands, REGARDLESS of whatever you might say about Self-determination for French Polynesia or anywhere else.
Furthermore, the UN De-colonisation committee's attempt to IMPOSE Independence runs counter to a people's Self-determination when they made up their minds themselves to remain a French Territory.
The UK and USA are prudent to disassociate themselves from this contradictory and controversial stand of this questionable self-serving committee.
To make a long story short......:
May 19th, 2013 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The English disassociate themselves from the “Inalienable rights of the Native People of French Polynesia, Palestine and Diego Garcia to self-determination and independence”.
At the same time....
The English associate themselves to the ”Imaginary rights of the Implanted Colonial Individuals on the Malvinas Isles to self-determine their dependence.
Hypocrisy anyone?
PS:
(86) Mr. McDod
Long time no hear....
As you can see I have the bloody colonialist well reined in...
Any news from the South Atlantic Oil Front?
86,89 Thinkedover
May 19th, 2013 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The pantomime horse is back!
Sorry to interupt your 'conversation'.
How was your little holiday while BK covered for you?
Do you have to pay two fares on AA ??
Double occupancy at CFK's hotels??
@ Think
May 19th, 2013 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The EU (of which the UK is the second biggest Net contributor) was the biggest international funder of the Fatah-run Palestinian authority. Although the policy has not been successful, we were enthusiastic supporters of the 2-state solution I.e. where one of the states would have been an independent Palestine. Also, Britain lost soldiers after WW2 fighting to defend Palestine from Zionists. We may have lost that fight, but we have done more for the Palestinians than Argentina ever has.
And the people of French Polynesia should be allowed to do whatever they want and not have their future decided by a failed, tinpot UN committee that is not interested in the wishes or interests of the peoples they are supposed to be helping, in clear violation of the committee's remit. And by English I assume you mean British, as in, the “UK of GB & NI”?
@89 Yes actually. Sentiment is changing. Like all true value investors, our time will come if we have patience.
May 19th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/columns/fox-davies-capital/12858/president-energy-leni-gas-oil-and-falkland-oil-and-gas-feature-in-fox-davies-newsflash-12858.html
If thinkless wants to play the “native card”, why does he not suggest giving all the new world back to the native people? Afterall, we non natives are living in a land where their land was expropriated and they were killed off, though SA is still killing them off under government condonation.
May 19th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Think
May 19th, 2013 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you always refer to Britain as 'The English'?
Have a read of the following...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
@90 Troy Tempest
Unfortunately, it appears Think's multiple personality disorder has resurfaced!
It must be all the rubbish coming out of Timerman mouth, thats started it again. Maybe he is slowly realising that all the NSGT have the right to self-determination and the FI would rather be independent than be a colony of Argentina? Poor Think, he should seek help...
(92) Mr McDod
May 19th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Sentiment is changing”...............you say?
Let me have a look...............................................................
Hmmmmm......
Shares are much cheaper than last time I looked!
Argos, Desire and B&S shares can be had for about 1 Argie peso....
FOGL shares for 1.50 Argie pesos.....
Dirt cheap, indeed ;-)
@93
May 19th, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The history of the natives is an excuse, back the islands usurped to another nation.
All Argentina government actions are denied by you and uk, however, a small plaque awarded them “magically” rights to settle in the islands.
The English does not is fantastic.?
But I think it's time to stop mistrust aside and start working together in the South Atlantic.
This status quo will not continue forever.
96 Malvinense 1833
May 19th, 2013 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We were working together, through the 1995 Hydrocarbons Agreement and the 1999 Agreement.
Your government tore them up, and decided that 'mistrust' would rule. We trusted you, and you decided to persecute us.
I don't believe that this status quo will continue for ever. I don't think that your present course is going to gain you anything, and will make your politicians look increasingly impotent and, well just a bit mad really.
You must have a very strange political system. In most places a strategy that meets with continued failure gets quietly dropped. I can only assume then that the 'win' is not getting the Falklands, but being 'victimised' by nasty Britain. Again, I don't really understand it. The British have never found playing the victim all that appealing. You seem to love it. Wierdos.
97 Hello Monty long time ago knew nothing of you.
May 19th, 2013 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beyond governments, think about the people.
Why not think of children of islands, visiting Argentina to learn Spanish language.
Why not think of Argentine children, visiting the islands to learn the English language.
School exchange.
Sharing music.
Sports Exchange, etc.. is possible, just open minds.
regards, friend.
Argentines coming to the Fslklands to share the oil.
May 19th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklsnders going to Argentina to share poverty and misery.
98 Malvinense 1833
May 19th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you tell that to your own politicians?
A few years ago our cricket team travelled to Chile to play friendly matches against various teams, including Argentina. Your government got to hear about it and complained, saying the Argentine team would withdraw if the Falklands team played.
We did withdraw, to save our hosts further embarassment.
I think you'll find that if you want the 'people' to meet, then you will have to get your government to change its attitude.
You can start with lifting the restriction on charter flights, so that people can actually travel between the two countries.
You can also leave politics out of it when you do come here; we don't want to see your flag and we don't want to hear about sovereignty. It's bad manners. We wouldn't do it if we visited Argentina.
@95
May 20th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Best get in quick, the shares are not going to be this cheap in 2104. Premier has already booked a rig to drill at least 4 wells, do you not THINK that Noble/Falkland Oil and Gas, Desire, Argos, Borders and Southern will not hire the rig to look for oil or gas in their licence areas. If oil in 2017 as envisaged then they must drill in 2014 to meet the requirements of the licence, one well will be a development well. Producer to you.
(101) Golfcronie
May 20th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have told you before.....
For financial matter please contact my PFM; Mr Mc.Dod.....
@102
May 20th, 2013 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sooooo sorry, I thought you all one person, pass it on Mc.Dod, he will apreciate it.
He could make enough money to buy the Argentinian national debt, but needs to get in now.
(103) golfcronie
May 20th, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are excused......
But don't let it happen again....
@104
May 20th, 2013 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not aware of sarcasm, must be an implanted EUROPEAN living in ARGENTINA, 40 MILLION IMPLANTS there, all descended from Spain, Italy,Germany.
Tell me THINK how long do you have to be resident in ARGENTINA before you are classified as ARGENTINIAN? Does the above not apply equally as well to the FALKLANDERS? How long has the IMPLANTED TIMERMANS family been in ARGENTINA?
@105 I explain to him:
May 22nd, 2013 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Implanted, meaning: that the current British population exists due to the expulsion of Argentina authorities and people living in the islands. It replaced a population and government on the other.
The first British settlers came with knowledge of the existence of a conflict with Argentina.
If not this the historical situción, the current population would be entitled to self-determination.
@106Malvinista
May 22nd, 2013 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0There was no “Argentina” prior to 1853.
There were multinational settlers on the Fslklands, with permission granted by Britain in 1829, as a result of an APPLICATION for permission from the proper British AUTHORITIES.
Years later, a small military garrison from BA and MVD arrived in 1832.
After the garrison murdered their Commander and taped his wife in front of their children (would you call them “Argentinian Authorities”?), the British has the UP Capt. Pinedo remove that garrison under arrest as criminals.
They were on the islands for 2 1/2 months.
The multi ethnic and multi national settlers already there since 1829, were allowed to stay, if they wished.
And they did, including UP citizen Rivero who you claim was 'expelled' at that time.
The multi-ethnic, multi-national settlers that chose to stay, became the Fslklsnd Islands community that has resided on the islands continuously until today.
Very definitely a distinct People, who have lived there successfully and peacefully for 180 years.
How could they not be entitled to SELF-DETERMINATION ?
How could anyone else have a better claim?
Lo sentimos, la codicia, palos de golf miserables :-(
Viva Falklands!!!
@Troy Tempest
May 22nd, 2013 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There was no “Argentina” prior to 1853.”
And I say...
There was not “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” shortly called UK prior 1998 when was constituted the formal union that we know today as a country.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/schools/agreement/constitutional/support/ci_c021.shtml
So in fact your new nation is younger than Argentina technically because acquired a new nation name.
According with your own logic of course and used for Argentina that before was “the United Province of South America”.
So I cannot see any logic why UK (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” is claiming territories in SA when they didn’t exist in 1833 or in 1853 or in 1900 or in 1938 or in 1997.
And Falkland Islands according with your logic doesn’t exist either because it is not a country they are still a English Colony and England is not a country anymore.
To be honest I don’t know what the F@k it is a province?
I know that UK is a province of EU but really none in this world understand how UK political system works a complete mess.
You say to be a democracy when you have a Monarch in power, you say to be a constitutional monarchy when you don’t have constitution, you claim to be a democracy and don’t have separation of power, etc.
To be honest it is clear to understand a tribal kingdom in Africa than your political system in Ukistan.
I would like one day to see UK to become a western country and become a full democracy republic style like Congo after all you both have similarities.
Just a thought...
Aww Dany are still scared of the big bad muslims and other people who are not white?
May 22nd, 2013 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0It must be so terrible to be so scared of everyone.
However, your racist little Nazi rants are getting old. How about trying a new angle?
So far you have shown your ignorance of military tactics and realities, economics and now politics and political institutions.
But never mind Dany. You must obey your La Campora paymasters. DISTRACT! DISTRACT! DISTRACT! From the article.
DISTRACT! From the fact that some Argentines are recognising the Falkland Islands Government.
DISTRACT! From the fact that Argentina's illegal invasion of the Falklands cost many young men their lives.
DISTRACT! From the fact that Argentine officers tortured and murdered their own men.
DISTRACT! From the fact that Argentine officers and SNCO's refused to identify the bodies of young Argentine men, denying them a final act of respect and dignity.
DISTRACT! From the fact that the UK and Falkland Islanders have treated the Argentine dead with far more respect and dignity than Argentina would have.
DISTRACT! From the fact that the Argentine dead of the Falklands War are just a politcal tool used by the Argentine government that has no respect for them at all.
Oh, wait! You're crap at distracting. Back to La Campora HQ so Maximo can 're-educate' you!
No pay for you today, DummyBerger. :D
@108dany
May 22nd, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There was not “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” shortly called UK prior 1998 when was constituted the formal union that we know today as a country.”
Sorry Dany,
That's an old argument debunked many times on here.
In fact, by your own argument, Uruguay has as much, if not more claim to the Falklands than Argentina.
It is of course irrelevant after1833, 1850, 1945, and 1982.
So Argentina still doesn't have the Falkland Islands?
May 22nd, 2013 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 02013 and no change.
@Troy Tempest
May 22nd, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where is Uruguay?
Any road map please?
@Anglotino
On the contrary boy, I guess the argies have already conquered you since long time ago.
Look at you obsessed with Argentina day and night wondering if Cristina does this or does that.
Trying to know and reading more news from Argentina than the average Argie have ever thought about.
I will be giving up I would be you and ask my new Argie passport with my face stamped on it.
Douglas McCulow,
Argentinean citizen,
Place of birth Malvinas province
Argentina.
.
@112dany
May 22nd, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Where is Uruguay?
Any road map please?”
Uruguay is NOT “Argentina”
United Provinces were NOT “Argentina”.
UP were Buenos Aires AND... MONTE VIDEO!!! in 1833
Both were a little area around the River Plate.
River Plate is about 1,500 km (isn't that about right?) from the Falkland Islands.
So, what was your point?
#110 Peace only came to Northern Ireland in 1998, though to be fair I think Dany got it slightly factually wrong and the state of the UNited Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has existed since 1922, when most of Ireland seceded. Still a younger state than the latest date given for Argentina, though of course we both actually had previous incarnations...
May 22nd, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK
May 22nd, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if you are trying to make a claim based on a connection between your state of Argentina, today, and the state of UP in 1833, who “implanted” a criminal military garrison on the Islands for 2 months, please bear in mind that by your logic, Uruguay would share equally that claim. Montevideo and Buenos Aires were the United Provinces, and their territory and jurisdiction extended nowhere near The Falklands.
It is of course, irrelevant after1833, 1850, 1945, and 1982
But, you know all that.
@107 Troy Tempest “There were multinational settlers on the Fslklands, with permission granted by Britain in 1829”
May 23rd, 2013 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0The United Kingdom protest the appointment of Vernet in 1829.
At the same time Vernet had British permission.
Great paradox or big lie?
We know the right answer.
Viva Malvinas!
@106
May 23rd, 2013 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Implanted, meaning: that the current British population exists due to the expulsion of Argentina authorities and people living in the islands.”
How many times do you have to be told that the only people expelled in 1833 were the military garrison and their dependents. Four other people left OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL they were in fact asked to stay but declined.
These facts are recorded in the archives of Argentina.
@British_Kirchnerist
May 24th, 2013 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I’m was using in my previous post “TroyTempest’s logic” that only recognises nations rights only when the last formal name is legal recognised or stamped on a paper, etc.
So according with this hilarious logic “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” didn’t exit prior 1998.
His logic excludes (according with him) “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” to have any claim over any territory before 1998 when was signed the act of unification with NI.
www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/schools/agreement/constitutional/support/ci_c021.shtml
That’s all
@ Troy Tempest
Uruguay is not claiming the Islands Argentina does and her is closer to the Islands than Uruguay you can see that on any map.
#118
May 24th, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0So what ?
@116
May 24th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The United Kingdom protest the appointment of Vernet in 1829.
At the same time Vernet had British permission.”
Vernet had permission to establish a colony but could clearly not agree with Vernet being appointed Buenos Aires Governor of the Islands.
The UP claim did not go back to 1690.
Also the Buenos Aires Governor who gave Vernet the position of governor in Port Louis murdered the previous governor of BA.
Therefore his government was illegal and void.
Agreed, disagreement (with Vernet)
May 25th, 2013 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Permission, had not had permission.
The following Governor of Buenos Aires, appoints governor of the islands to Mestivier while absent Vernet.
Thus, the history of illegality is a British tale.
118Dangleberries
May 25th, 2013 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Uruguay is not claiming the Islands Argentina does and her is closer to the Islands than Uruguay you can see that on any map.”
Hmm, I don't know what what proximity has to do with things?
1833 - UP was BA and MVD, an area around the River Plate.
Isn't that 1,000 miles or 1,500km away from the Falklands?
About one or two weeks away by boat??
Hardly next door, was it??
UP, the entity whose criminals briefly “squatted” on the British administered islands, removed said murderers and rapists at Britain's request.
When UP dissolved, UP never possessed the Islands and could not bequeath the islands or any mythical claim to the islands, to either Arg or Uruguay.
By 1850, a British administered community had been on the islands continuously for 17 years, and a treaty was signed to say that Spain did not have any outstanding disputes with Britain.
Only after Argentina expanded its borders into Patagonia by military genocide, did they start to covet the land of their new neighbours. 1880's??
Dany, by your logic,
I could travel from my home in London, to burgle a house in Barcelona. Get caught, sent home to London and prison.
When I got out, years later, illegally emigrate to Barcelona, and then claim the house that I had burgled - because I had been there before.
Maybe something you can relate to better:
I leave my home in the Falklands and move to BA. I then feel that I can claim Uruguay, as it is just separated by a bit of water.
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