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Venezuelan overture to the US: “time to resume diplomatic representation at the highest level”

Tuesday, May 21st 2013 - 06:30 UTC
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Venezuela on Sunday made a rare diplomatic overture to the United States, suggesting it could be time for better ties. Foreign minister Elias Jaua said on Televen Sunday program that “we are going to remain open to normalizing relations with the United States”. Read full article

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  • British_Kirchnerist

    A good initiative, lets hope Obama does what he was literally elected to do and responds positively.

    “It must also be added that despite the bad blood, Venezuela sells about 900,000 barrels of oil every day to the United States”

    Why stop now? Of course if America ever really crossed the line, like by bombing Iran, its nice to know that Venezuela still has that bit of leverage!

    May 21st, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    And we in the USA sell even more right back as refined gasoline, something that is in very short supply in Venezuela. The USA does not buy that sulphur laden shit other than to refine for them. Citgo, that name Venezuelan gas sells under here SUCKS........it gets the lowest mileage in my MKZ.

    May 21st, 2013 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JamesS

    @1 lets hope Obama does what he was literally elected to do and responds positively. so, tell me !! what exactly was Maduro & Kirchner elected to do, I mean early days for the Venezuela president but Kirchner has not done one thing she was elected to do... I more inclined to think that Maduro needs to grovel to the Americans because he knows the shit is about to hit the fan because of what the singing bird's mess of things in the last 14 years.....

    May 21st, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    What Obama is elected to do is to administer the government of the USA under the appointment of the people and under to general oversight of the US Congress, with in the interests of the USA in mind. I would suspect that after years and years of the USA being political fodder for CHubby CHavo and now the “Bus”, they will be some ass kissing involved if they want more USA refine petroleum and access to US markets and aid. Venezuela and Argentina are, all themselves destroying everything in SA. My retort back to them is “you all have told us over and over that you do not need nor want us”. You have want you wanted, why change course now?

    May 21st, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Like Cap'n Poppy said, it's not...so leveragy. Venezuela became a net oil importer in 2012.
    And they use these American refinieries because they're the few technologically sophisticated enough to crack low-quality stuff. BUT, Tthese refinieries are starting to take the massive amounts of yucky tar sand stuff from nice Canada instead.
    This NA glut is going to drop oil prices like it's hot.
    That said, solar ev ftw.

    May 21st, 2013 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    More importantly, Maduro will never talk to Obama

    May 21st, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    This must be the same USA that Maduro says is satanic and where the President is “the Devil”.

    Sure sounds like a great way to build bridges!

    May 21st, 2013 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #3 Maduro and Cristinita were elected to fight for the people, which is exactly what they're doing =)

    #4 “What Obama is elected to do is to administer the government of the USA under the appointment of the people and under to general oversight of the US Congress, with in the interests of the USA in mind”

    He was also elected, beating other candidates for that same technical job, on a set of specific policies, prominent among which was re-engaging with the world after the disastrous Bush years and attempting to bring Bush years “enemies” in from the cold; so far his delivery on this has been poor, dissapointing even me and I was always sceptical. But it was his platform. I wonder if you hid behind technicalities to deny that Bush was elected to do anything specific...

    May 21st, 2013 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Wonder......when you rightly tell me my party affiliation, there are more than two, I will stop your wondering. btw bk, Obama is upset you are disappointed in him.
    As for asslips and the Buses elected role was to repress the people as they stole hundreds of millions.
    Your problem bk is you are blinded by your philosophical political believes and refuse to believe that asslips and nasty nestor can be corrupt. People in the free world (non- south american countries) are not so blind to refute even the people they voted for. What makes you even sadder is pretending to be Scottish.......very sad indeed.

    May 21st, 2013 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #9 “btw bk, Obama is upset you are disappointed in him”

    Sure he's got more important things to worry about...like the large chunk of his base that think similarly to me...

    “As for asslips and the Buses elected role was to repress the people as they stole hundreds of millions”

    Can you point that bit out in their manifestos, I must have missed it!

    “when you rightly tell me my party affiliation, there are more than two, I will stop your wondering”

    OK so its not one of the two, so I'll guess Conservative Party of New York?

    May 22nd, 2013 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Maduro had several meetings at top level in Washington D C a few months before Chavez died. He was actually very pragmatic and conciliatory in meetings, nothing like the ravings about birds that is for domestic consumption. Since the elections he is fearful for his life and probably thinks he will be safer working with the US.

    Why is CFK 'fighting' for her people? What a lot of nonsense. She has a country with resources and a work force. Why doesn't she use that to improve the lives of the Argentines instead of keeping them poor and stealing anything not nailed down? She was elected to govern the country.

    May 22nd, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I was born in NYC, but do not live there so it is rather unlikely that I am in the Conservative party of New York. I find quite humorous though is being called a conservation. I know many conservative people as well as liberal, progressive or whatever they enjoy for a label. Neither one of them have ever considered me on “their” side. That being said perhaps that helps paint a sharper picture. As for pointing out where in there manifesto, can you first at least provide me with their manifesto's? As for Obama......my bad, I will make sure I point out sarcasm for you in the future, will that help you understand? (sarcasm)

    Elaine they must have been very hush hush meeting that he is not documented as having entered the USA a few months back. Though it is obvious he is fearful for his life by the size of his entourage he travels with. He hardly has to fear for his life from the USA as we are no longer “officially” in the assassination business officially speaking.

    May 22nd, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @12 I don't have the exact dates to hand but it was before he was named Chavez's heir. Probably more than six months ago, but he most certainly went there. Once Chavez was on the final decline he stayed in Venezuela.

    I don't think the US would be involved in getting rid of Maduro or any other Latam leader. The threat is most certainly from within Venezuela and I think it is a very real threat.

    May 22nd, 2013 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    Is that the same evil USA that Maduro accused of assassinating the former president with cancer. And Chavez was still willing to sell oil to 'The Devil' despite the constant rhetoric against the USA...

    It goes to show these boliviarianos can say any shit, anything, and then ignore it, contradict it....

    These Bolivarianos have zero integrity

    May 22nd, 2013 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Nor do I Elaine. Venezuela is far from a threat to the USA and besides, it is getting closer on a daily basis of imploding.

    #14 it's ok to talk shit openingly to the public and then behind closed doors act as a bidet, becuase the average Jorge does not know any better.

    May 22nd, 2013 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #11 “Maduro had several meetings at top level in Washington D C a few months before Chavez died. He was actually very pragmatic and conciliatory in meetings”

    Yes, I have always preferred him over other possible heirs to Chavez, precisely because he is a pragmatic and concilliatory kind of guy (as well as coming from the civilian left)

    “Since the elections he is fearful for his life”

    Which doesn't reflect well on his opponents, does it?! And might explain why he's currently being less concilliatory than is ususally his wont...

    #12 “He hardly has to fear for his life from the USA as we are no longer “officially” in the assassination business officially speaking”

    Well that's reassuring (sarcasm). When have these kind of black opps ever been particularly “official” anyway? To be fair I also, like Elaine at #13, think the danger is more from the internal oligarchic opposition than from the US...

    May 22nd, 2013 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    No shit BK....it was not sarcasm. We will not attempt to kill a leader unless we are in armed conflict with that country...period. Must you always use moronic and outdated adjectives like oligarchic or imperialists. Don't you know we really prefer being called the great satan and the evil pigs? The names your kindreed bothers in Iran and North Korea refer to us as. Keep up with the times BK

    May 22nd, 2013 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    By definition, Argentina is ruled by an oligarchy. I wonder why that does not offend BK.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Apparently communist oligarchies is A-OK to BK. And democratic republics are evil. He fails to see the few that control and oversee Argentina despite that mass protests against the government. What's even worse, he has no clue of the actual destruction KFC is creating. He naively thinks the world is picking on Argentina because the world has nothing better to do.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #19 “He fails to see the few that control and oversee Argentina despite that mass protests against the government”

    I expect the demo later today will be bigger than those “mass” protests, what you'll be saying then? If Argentina was really a dictatorship, would such ”mass opposition have been allowed in the first place?

    May 25th, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    That statement of yours is meaningless as you fail to see the balance of powers removed from the country. Impartial judiciary, removal of the freedom of the press, runaway power and control from the head of state.
    While the head asshole in charge have always ignored the people that opposed her, protested against her and slighted them by insulting them and calling them very bad names......like the dreaded...“middleclass”, she she be saying the polar opposite (like her brain) that millions came, millions cheered, millions want to continue on to the path to destruction. The fact remains that La Campora is responsible for insuring a turnout. They are also responsible for being the “price police” in a VOLUNTARY price control scenario. It's a dangerous scene when you deputize a group like Argentina's very own hitler's youth. Of course having never been outside of your country, you have no clue of the consequences if they happen across what they PERCEIVE as a price increase do you BK? Those thugs will destroy the store.....but they will be ok right BK, because they are doing iton behalf of the people ...right BK? It is ok to commit crimes if they are in the name of the people? We will really see what will be in October, but she already started buying the votes with increased handout.......almost 40% with asslips claiming only 10% inflation.........buying votes, or reality of true inflation?

    May 25th, 2013 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    re BK

    --It goes to show these boliviarianos can say any shit, anything, and then ignore it, contradict it....

    These Bolivarianos have zero integrity--

    ..its worth repeating

    May 25th, 2013 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #21 “Of course having never been outside of your country”

    Where did you get that idea?! I have admitted before to never having yet been to Argentina, but I have been to many other countries in the “old world”, including REAL dictatorships like Egypt under Mubarak, so I do have some idea what I'm talking about...

    #22 “These Bolivarianos have zero integrity--

    ..its worth repeating”

    Which you then don't do =) Btw, as well as their policies, one of the things that attracts me to the Bolivarians is precisely their integrity...

    May 25th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Not when it comes to SA and in particular Argentina. If you have not been paying attention, reread some old posts......SA is the NEW dictators.....elected dictators.....dictocracy.

    May 26th, 2013 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    @23

    So how is the slagging off of the USA which is the centre of your political ideology and then doing deals with them and virtually begging them to increase trade with them not a demonstration of zero integrity?!

    People can vote through the ballot box and with their wallet. Theres not alot of difference. Politics is a business. Hence Crissy and her gang are getting richer exponentially. Undesputed fact. They are the group of powerful millionaires/billionaires affecting the politics and social structure of a country - the oligarchs - it makes no difference if they were elected or are industry titans.

    May 26th, 2013 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You are right Tobers. In the USA you are more likely to find the Titans in the Senate and more of the “People” in the HoR. And in the USA, regardless of who does what..........everything starts in the HoR......sent to the Senate and then signed by POTUS. It's not easy to get runaway regulations unless a party controls all three and we see the failures of Argentina when that happens. It happened a few times here as well and we are paying those prices today.

    May 26th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I can't wait until the XL Keystone pipeline is running from Alberta to TX. It will go to the same refineries that currently do the oil from Venezuela.

    It is expected to take 100% of their capacity so there will not be any room for Venezuela's oil to be refined!

    They only other place that can ship that crap is China.
    They'll be lucky to break even!
    Bahahahahaa

    May 28th, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yankee I am not up to speed on all the issues other than there are issues. My main focus is money though. How much is Canada paying for a right or way cut through the USA?

    May 28th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    28. Lots and lots of years of ongoing taxes. It is a win win for both of us! This is going to do wonders for our trade deficit.

    May 28th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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