A meeting of leading world and regional business and finance corporations representatives is scheduled parallel to the Alliance of the Pacific presidential summit scheduled for this week in the Colombia city of Cali. According to the organizers the event has 250 CEO confirmed for the First Business meeting of the alliance. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe alliance of the winner states... 4 leading states in the region that look up to a bright future. 4 middle size states (except big Mexico) that already export more than ALL THE RESTING 17 latinamerican countries together (including big nations like Brazil and Argentina)
May 22nd, 2013 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why? Because they don't believe in fairy tales like the others do, but in real work and pragmatic long term plans. Effort pays out...
Winner states? Mexico and Colombia, some of the most dangerous places on Earth? Peru - led by a left President, but one who has so far dissapointed on many counts. Chile - wait till Bachelet comes back =)
May 22nd, 2013 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Mercosur was doomed ever since it allowed Venezuela to join & with Argenzuela following the same Bolivarian idealology, Chile, Peru & Colombia had no option but to form their own alliance with Mexico
May 22nd, 2013 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Soon Uruguay, Paraguay & Brazil will want to join so that will only leave the Bolivarian states to lie, cheat & rob from each other!!!
BK
May 22nd, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not about left/right. It is a TRADE organisation.
In Chile there are more Columbians and Peruvians everyday and everyday there are more Chileans doing business in those countries. What is your objection to us freeing up movement of people and trade between our countries? This was one of the true achievements of the EU wasn’t it?
Why on earth does that bother you that we seek the same benefits?
You routinely demonstrate your ignorance of Chilean affairs when you say things like “wait till Bachelet comes back =)”.
If/when Bachelet comes back Chile’s commitment to the Pacific Alliance will continue uninterrupted.
As I have pointed out to you before: Chile’s “socialist” coalition (that is Bachelet’s side for you) was in power for 20 years and they blazed a capitalist free-trading trail that would make Pope Francis baulk. They opened up the country to FDI and negotiated more FTAs than any other country on earth. So yes, wait until Mami comes back.
BK, nobody tops the murder rate / Crime of the epicenter of the bolivarian movement: Caracas, Venezuela. 160 deaths per 100k, insanely more than 5x higher murder rate than Cape Town (South Africa).
May 22nd, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And its funny you believe Bachelet would be a scare for the libral Chileans...you can't believe how we shiver her to become president again. Our socialist Bachelet, who has opened Chilean trade policies to the whole world, that even nations like the US look like marxists...rofl
Under Bachelet, Chile for the first time in history exported more USD volume than its 3x bigger neighbour Argentina. So just let her come back again, so be it!
#4 If/when Bachelet comes back Chile’s commitment to the Pacific Alliance will continue uninterrupted
May 22nd, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't doubt it, but the Pacific Alliance itself might improve =) Mami, is that what Chileans call her? I like the sound of that =)
BK
May 22nd, 2013 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the Pacific Alliance itself might improve”
That depends on what “improve” entails for you. Given that you generally support protectionism and the socialisation of enterprise, I think you will be disappointed by the improvements in the Alliance.
Yes “Mami” is a very fitting name for her. She has a maternal approach, speaks softly and when she goes on the attack it is more like a telling off. She is highly regarded by most Chileans and internationally respected – your queen could learn a lot from her.
If you are a true socialist and you want to see businesses in Chile nationalised and a reversal of all the progress we have made in the last 25 years then you need to look way to the left of Mami.
#7 BK cannot support anything. He claims to be a Scot, more pointedly he has never seen the countries he loves so much.....Like Venezuela with 9% of the USA population and a murder rate that exceeds it. Even in his nebulous thinking can't understand that PA is about trade and not politics. Increased trade is increased revenue which is increased tax base equal increased taxes. Businesses go where they can maximize profits, a concept incapable in the minimized compartment that parks his brain.
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May 27th, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am pretty sure BK is a Scot, he lives in Inverkeithing my sources tell me (we have to keep tabs on enemies of Chile). He is just not one of the enlightened Scots like Adam Smith or Carnegie.
I will take your word for it. Though for the life of me, I can hardly comprehend why a real a Argentine would support Kirchner, I rephrase that.......an Argentine with a working ethic and middleclass,( though I don't think those Argentine's support her, the one's I associate with and know), I totally befuddles me why a Anglo European would support her ineffectual policies. It may have more to do with his hormones based on his rambling posts, than one communist desperately seeking another and hoping for success. Apparently he gave up on European communism with the fail of the USSR, he must have cried for a year. And gave up on the Chinese, being they adjusted and adopted to market economies, poorly I might have. Who knows......but yes, certainly no like Smith or Carnegie.
May 28th, 2013 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0or maybe because BK hates Argentina more than any other Brit.
May 28th, 2013 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then it would make sense to support Kirchnerism, on a very sadistic and cruel way.
Ahhhh yes......makes sense now.....lol
May 28th, 2013 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0#7 She is highly regarded by most Chileans and internationally respected – your queen could learn a lot from her
May 28th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, while I like Elizabeth II, she would be even better if she was more like Bachelet =)
#9 I am pretty sure BK is a Scot, he lives in Inverkeithing my sources tell me
Well I am a Scot, thanks for noticing =) But I don't know what makes you think of Inverkeithing, which I've seen you mention before, or who these sinister sounding sources are...
”(we have to keep tabs on enemies of Chile)
I am emphatically NOT an enemy of Chile, I want only the best for Chile and am actually quite optimistic about a Bachelet victory and the progressive changes that will bring. What even makes you think that I'm an enemy”, just beacause I'm a friend of your neighbour?!
#9,#10 I actually have some regard for both Smith and Carnegie. Smith was an early political economist who laid the groundwork for and inspired Marx, certainly not the Hayeck/Friedman character his missnamed Institute would have you believe. And Carnegie, while a ruthless capitalist, was at least a self made man who came from real poverty, and gave back to society on an extravagent scale once he was rich
Check out Carnegie Hall next time you drop by NYC.
May 28th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Btw.....Buffet an Gates ....there is a list of Billionaires giving away more than half their wealth.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/12/09/us-wealth-philanthropy-billionaires-idUSTRE6B818R20101209
BK's rebuttal....they still half half.
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May 28th, 2013 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am glad that you have some regard for both Smith and Carnegie, but don’t taint Smith by linking him to Marx:
“Smith was an early political economist who laid the groundwork for and inspired Marx”.
Marx might have been inspired by him, but that is not the same as laying the ground work. The Wealth of Nations proposes free trade over protectionism.
“I am emphatically NOT an enemy of Chile”.
You most certainly are and it has nothing to do with your love of CFK. You are ideologically opposed to the measures that have dragged us out of the 3rd world. That shows contempt for the significant advances made. It means you care to cheer an ideology (which you know only through books) and care not for the lives of real people.
“I don't know what makes you think of Inverkeithing”
I don’t know maybe the Proclaimers, do they sing about Inverkeithing?
No? Must be the sinister sources then.
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