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Falklands and other BOT should be given a seat in the Commons, says MEP Farage

Wednesday, May 22nd 2013 - 23:42 UTC
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The Falkland Islands, Gibraltar and Britain’s other Overseas Territories should be given a seat in the Commons, UK Independent Party MEP Nigel Farage said on Tuesday. The UKIP leader claims their voices are dangerously ‘muted’ in Britain and they should be allowed to elect their own ‘MP for the Territories’, following on the French experience. Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    Didn't Nigel Farage get his rear end kicked out of Scotland last week?
    He was told “go back to England”..and take the kelpers with you please.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    Nigel's completely right on this. Not only would this step give the BOT's the full representation they deserve, it would also mean the UN would recognise them as being fully in charge of their destiny as per the requests of the decolonisation committee and they would all have to be removed from the list of places to ve decolonised.
    Marcos: raising points completely irrelevant to the article, yet again, congratulations.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Nigel Farage welcomed in Scotland

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HegOc-IbJY

    May 23rd, 2013 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!

    May 23rd, 2013 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KFC de Pollo

    Nigel Farage is an idiot and his party are racist but he has a point, BOT's should be given a seat in the parliament whilst they wish remain BOTs

    May 23rd, 2013 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    Agreed.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    3 Yeah BK and Tinkadova joined the 30 hard left activist scum who welcomed Mr Farage with racist abuse. Wasn't even the SNP, which was disappointing. Anyway some good points made by the UKIP leader as usual. Just 2 points behind the Tory Party and double the Lib Dem support.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    This guy has my vote next time and I know he has tons of support in the UK. If the Argies think that Cameron is difficult to deal with, wait until Farage gets in!

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John III (Pope)

    @2
    Are you a complete idiot? Representation would just confirm the Falkland islands lack of sovereignty and their inability for self determination.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    @2 Boovis
    I doubt the De-colonisation committee would de-list them if they had representation, as they have just re-listed French Polynesia who have a representative in French Parliament!
    We would be better pushing for decolonisation committee reform, a total revamp and change of members made up from neutral countries, with a focus on what the people of NSGT's want, and if that doesn't happen boycott it.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    The only country which takes any notice of the decolonisation committee is Argentina and nobody takes much notice of Argentina anyway - it has become a pariah nation. So UKIP has a good point and it should be investigated.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    I personally would prefer the creation of a federal United Kingdom. Each nation would handle many of it's own affairs (an extension of the devolution we have currently) with only a few reserved for the federal government (e.g. foreign affairs, defence, borders, and some shared institutions). Each constituent (including the BOTs) would elect members to a UK senate. Each nation would reserve the right to become independent at any point on the basis of a referendum. I always thought it a shame the Commonwealth (or at least the core Commonwealth) didn't evolve into something like this.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    I'm far from an idiot, the only reason that, for example, French Guiana was removed from the decolonisation committee's listing was exactly because they had a representative in the French parliament. Their definition of being a colony is exactly a place with no perceived representation or say in the government of the “mother” country.
    French Polynesia was added back to the committee as the people claimed they had never been given a referendum concerning their status with France or the territry's level of perceived conrol over their affairs or representation.

    I agree with Steve that the decolonisation committee does need restructuring as it isn't really relevant to the way that governments and territories operate in the 21st century.

    So, no, I'm not an idiot, but I do have the ability to actually read up on stories before I comment on them.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @5
    Why is he a racist, please explain that? He is fully supportive of lawful immigration, I have never heard him say anything racist?

    May 23rd, 2013 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MrFlagpole

    Farage is an idiot.

    The last thing FI needs to do is involve itself in the UK's internal politics and become a party political player. Currently they enjoy the support of all parties.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frankdrebin

    If you dig deep enough, as the Tories did with UKIP you’ll find every party will have its closet racists and rotten apples. I quite like Farage, he has the Tories pooping bricks, so much so they’ve started turning on themselves.

    I think a vote for UKIP at the next GE will be a wasted vote but I’ll never say never to voting for them in the future once they’ve matured.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    This an old idea recycled, which for many reasons is not favoured by the OT's. If it were you would have heard calls from us, from Bermuda, from Cayman, etc for such a move. We are countries in our own right with strong working relationships with the UK. We have no wish to be absorbed or to become a piece of the UK or Europe.

    And that is why we have our own Parliaments, and do not have members in the Westminster Parliament which would undermine our position.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1 True. But many Scots are ladyboys. They do wear skirts. Similar in some ways to various groups of argies that like to wrap their knickers round their heads. Contrary to popular belief, it's not to hide their identities. They do it so that they can borrow their friends' used knickers, revel in the odour and wish that they had dicks. Watch for the symbolism. They carry clubs and batons. Dick surrogates!

    May 23rd, 2013 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    Farage should have done his homework - he's sixty years too late. The political establishments of these places would no more favour this than turkeys would vote for Christmas. In Gibraltar there was support for integration until the UK said 'no'. The Channel Islands and the Isle of Man are far more closely linked to the UK as Crown Dependencies, but they don't want it.

    On the other hand, seats for expatriates is something I'd support; Portugal, Italy and France have them for theirs - as it happens, there's an Italian Senator called Luigi Pallaro who represents all the Italians in South America, most of them, like him, living in Argentina - http://inside.org.au/the-diaspora-fights-back/

    Interestingly, Canada and Australia complained to Italy about this because it implies that as they are parts of Italian parliamentary constituencies, they are under Italian jurisdiction. Argentina, however, has not. The only good thing I have to say about the Italian political system over the Argentine one is that it's parliamentary, not presidential.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malicious bloke

    This will never happen, thankfully.

    It isn't a good idea either for the territories or for a centralised parliament.

    The trend over the last couple of decades has been towards ever increasing devolution of government authority. I'd rather see much greater political and financial autonomy for all the overseas territories and the contiguous bits of the UK and steadily phase out the scottish, welsh and northern irish MPs who still vote in parliament. Make whitehall a bit more like a devolved English parliament, rather than adding extra members from the overseas territories.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    19
    Couldn't agree with any of that.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    the argies know he is correct-
    so what do they do, throw out insults,

    overseas teritory should be represented at westminster,
    this is good for them and bad for CFK and her dreams,

    the point is the argies can do nothing about it, but cryand throw out insults..

    May 23rd, 2013 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    @20 What you are proposing is the breakup of the UK. If Westminster (not Whitehall) becomes an English parliament, there is no longer a British one.

    Farage actually advocates scrapping separate elections to the Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly and Northern Ireland Assembly and having Westminster MPs in those parts of the UK members of the devolved assemblies. However, as with MPs for the overseas territories, he's too late, the horse has bolted.

    @21 What don't you agree with? Elaborate.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Where is the problem with representation at Westminster for BOTs? Are they not British? Do we not protect them? Then let them speak and be heard!

    May 23rd, 2013 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    We already have a problem in England with the Scots Irish and Welsh, let alone including the OTs! England needs its OWN Parliament just like the other countries that make up the UK. Then, we need a seperate much smaller parliament with representatives of all countries to make the common laws. I feel that England is continually held back by people from Scotland and Wales and its time the English got real democracy rather than socialist rule we have suffered from Wales and Scotland. The OTs have all got different needs and they are fine ruling themselves. The new smaller UK parliament could provide some basic common law for the UK as well as the OTs letting them do the detailed stuff themselves. Sorry Nige, stick to bashing Eurocruts they deserve it.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC
    Mr Farage says....:
    “Collectively, the territories have a population of 260,000 people and a land area of approximately 667,000 square miles.”

    I say....:
    667,000 square miles.............
    That's a lot....... huhhhhh?

    Kindly substact ~660,000 square miles from the Argentinean Antarctic Sector...
    Then substact ~4,700 square miles from the Argentinean Malvinas Islands...
    To finish, substact ~1,600 square miles from the Argentinean Geaorgias y Sandwich del Sur Islands...

    Now we can see that, collectively, the English Overseas Territories have a population of 257,500 people and a land area of approximately 1,000 square miles....

    Ever wondered why we call you Pirates down here?

    May 23rd, 2013 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Think,
    You are not down here, you as in Europe. And, we are proud of our pirate heritage. It started with El Drago, and its in our blood. Approach our Islands like you did in 82 and you will get sunk.
    Who would want to join a failing nation with Nazi SA style thugs dishing out punishments, out of control crime, rampaging inflation and crooked politicians lining their pockets from the poor who live in tin shacks and collect cardboard to scrape a meagre living.
    You represent a failed nation I hope you are proud.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    26 Think (#)
    May 23rd, 2013 - 05:15 pm

    The Antarctic territory claimed by Britain and Argentina is not a BOT, therefore should not be included in your calculation!!!!!!!!

    May 23rd, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (28) Simon68

    Tell that to the English...
    Specifically to Mr. Farage; Chosmalandra.....

    May 23rd, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @26 The Chief Carrot, aka The Biggest Liar On MP, aka I Don't Think
    “Ever wondered why we call you Pirates down here?”

    Because you are a bunch of indoctrinated idiots fawning over a Manic Depressive Whore who cannot even keep the country afloat financially and uses the Mythical Malvinas as a way to blind you twats to what is really going on?

    OR

    Because you are using the REAL Espanol definition of Pirate which allows any Spanish Generalissimo to execute them because under ‘Spanish Law’, what a fcuking oxymoron, there is no protection for Pirates?

    OR

    The Malvanistas, La Camping-It-Up, The Veterans Of Las Malvinas (another bunch of fcuking losers), and all the other Trolls that you personally side with irrespective of the facts (facts for a lying cuelo like you?) [it’s spelt correctly] do not have an option if they are to be paid by TMBOA to attempt to deflect the topics that embarrass her.

    My money is on the final option.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    25
    You have a point, up to a point,
    Perhaps Wales , Scot , n Ireland should not have been given their own parliament,

    After all we are all meant to be British, all 4 have MPs in Westminster, and this government in Westminster represents the UK,
    Local government should be just that, dealing with local problems and issues,
    No matter what party gets power,

    But sadly some people, given power go straight for separation,
    This is not local government, but self centred,interests,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Until we have a better system then Westminster, should represent the UK with representatives from all parts of the British Isles and overseas territories,

    Just a thought..
    .

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Think
    You say we are pirates

    We say you are liars, cheats and thieves.

    But, you can lie about sovereignty, cheat by spreading those lies to gullible recipients and the last IME you tried to steal the Falkland Islands you were humiliated by being beaten by a small British force from the UK whilst you were only 300 miles from home. And the UN told you to get out because the Islands are British and you didn't thus breaking a mandatory resolution.

    Pirates break the law, Britain and the Falkland Islanders didn't, what does that make Argentina - incompetent pirates!

    You are part of the Turd World!

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC
    A little but quite important correction to my post (26).....:

    Mr Farage says....:
    “Collectively, the territories have a population of 260,000 people and a land area of approximately 667,000 square miles.”

    I say....:
    667,000 square miles, huhhhhh?
    That's a lot!

    Kindly substact ~660,000 square miles from the Argentinean AND CHILEAN Antarctic Sector...
    Then substact ~4,700 square miles from the Argentinean Malvinas Islands...
    To finish, substact ~1,600 square miles from the Argentinean Georgias and Argentinean AND CHILEAN Sandwich del Sur Islands...

    Now we can see that, collectively, the English Overseas Territories have a population of 257,500 people and a land area of approximately 1,000 square miles....

    Ever wondered why we call you English Pirates down here?

    May 23rd, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Yaaaawn:.. so what? Sticks and stones... If anyone had any respect for Rgs it might have some significance, but we don't!

    May 23rd, 2013 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Yes, let us copy the French on this one and have a Falklands MP. I understand that the MEP for Devon actually represents Gibraltar - he's the closest.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    It took a fruitcake, loonie and closet racist English politician as Mr. Farage to finally say IT “on the record”.................:

    “Collectively, the territories have a population of 260,000 people and a land area of approximately 667,000 square miles.”

    666,000 of them square miles the English want to steal from Chile and Argentina......
    Using as an excuse them 2,400 Squatters they have placed down South...

    A “ slightly less hypocrite” fruitcake, loonie and closet racist English politician!
    He will surely get a lot of votes from the English turnips...

    May 23rd, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    Go back to Spain - or Italy... you already have representatives in the Italian Parliament - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP0ve6dWM6c

    May 23rd, 2013 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    16 Frankdrebin

    “I think a vote for UKIP at the next GE will be a wasted vote but I’ll never say never to voting for them in the future once they’ve matured”.

    How can voting for the right party be a wasted vote?

    Nigel Farage has been right on everything he has spoken out about.... You have a very short memory if you don't remember the conservatives “Prostitutes and drugs” parties of the 80's, The cash for questions scandals of the 90's, The expenses scandal of the 2000's.

    The “Big three” have had their day. They are ALL corrupt, They ALL don't listen, They all went to the same schools, married each others sisters and, in his own words “There is not even a cigarette papers difference between their policies”.

    Sorry Nick, Dave, Ed time for a change, time for something new, timwe for a party that takes the security of this nation seriously and would actually SPEND money on the navy, the air force and the army instead of cutting the budget.

    Would you really want to give your vote to any of them? They have lost their way, become too lazy, too corrupt and too much the same, so no, I won't be voting for any of them...................

    and anyway, if everyone thought that to vote for UKIP is a “wasted vote” then what chance do we have of making a change???

    If everyone thought as you do, how can we change the political landscape in this country?

    May 23rd, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Think is doing his damnedest to hijack bit so ineffective these days.

    So sad.

    Anyway back to the article which has nothing to do with Argentina.

    The idea seems like a good one but the UK has always been quite open that the NOTs are not considered part of 'metropolitan' UK. The system as it stands now works well. The UN position on the BOTs is frankly irrelevant and the UK has never prevented a BOT declaring independence or integrating with another country.

    Always nice to air new ideas though.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    The Turks and Caicos have expressed an interest in becoming part of Canada, but Canada hasn't been wild about the idea, despite the appeal of having a tropical province or territory - http://www.blogscanada.ca/2012/01/13/will-canadas-next-province-be-in-the-caribbean/

    I would be happy for the OTs in the Caribbean and Atlantic to hook up with Canada - if history had been different, and Argentina really had been the 'Sixth Dominion' of the British Empire, the Falklands would be more inclined towards integration with its closest neighbour.

    May 23rd, 2013 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ajoknoblauch

    It's perhaps worth noting that Italians resident in Argentina - including those with dual nationality - are entitled to vote for a local candidate in Italian parliamentary elections.

    May 24th, 2013 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John III (Pope)

    @13
    The English position has nothing to do with the UN which it ignores. Its all about the “referendum” and the supposed ability of the islanders to decide on sovereignty issues.

    May 24th, 2013 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @42
    Where do you get this idea that the UK ignores the UN? The UK is in complete compliance with every UN resolution there is. Ask Ban Ki Moon.

    May 24th, 2013 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    @41 That's what I pointed out - and Argentina's hypocrisy in not opposing this.

    May 24th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @42
    “The English position has nothing to do with the UN which it ignores.”

    England does not deal with the UN.

    There is no separate representation in the UN (at present) for England Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

    If you find this concept too hard to understand, then check UN documents and see if England is mentioned separately from the rest of the UK and post it on here to correct me, if it is.

    May 24th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    If he insists on calling the UK 'England', and the Falklands 'Malvinas', refer to Argentina as River Plate, and its capital as 'Fair Winds'

    May 24th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @46
    OK-but in light of the recent chemical atmospheric contamination in BA even the description of their capital is BS, as was United Provinces, as they broke apart-bit like South America has always been-united in name but not in practise.

    May 24th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    With representation comes taxation. Nigel has won my vote. Out of “Europe” into “Globalisation”, that's what I say, among other things of course.

    May 25th, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @48 Think

    You don't vote in the UK. What a stupid thing to say.

    Consistent at least.... on the stupidity, not the dozen logins you use on here.

    May 26th, 2013 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @49 It's seldom I agree with you but I do on this. “You don't vote in the UK” What a stupid thing to say. How very true. I don't know why you posted it because you're not actually stupid or you wouldn't be able to type.

    May 26th, 2013 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Actually Think I am eligible to vote in the UK. And did so when I lived there.

    As an Australian, I'm even eligible to vote in the upcoming Scottish referendum if I happen to be living in Scotland during September 2014. Something that obviously interests you, considering your continually vain attempts at anti-English rhetoric. He gained any traction.

    I'm sorry that you feel so disenfranchised by your country's continual tendency to revert to undemocratic rule Think. This is your fault for not standing up to the wrongs your government perpetrates against its own people. More protests and less government organised fawning rallies for your dear leader.

    I'm sorry that you feel so disempowered that you have to hold conversations with yourself on this website under multiple sock puppets. You must feel so superior that you fool so many people. Congratulations, your reward is nothing that you don't do in your head every day.

    And I am extremely sorry that your posts have recently shown a tendency to be droll, off topic and unable to hijack the fora in yawn-inspiring off topic crap.

    I don't care where you live or who you are. If you do indeed live in Argentina, then I feel sorry that you have to spend so much of your time defending your government instead of realising your country's potential. If you aren't in Argentina then that is probably worse; there's a reason and it is pretty tragic that this is how you connect with you patria. And if you are indeed not Argentinean, well you lying isn't exactly a foreign concept.

    Please feel free to correct or criticise my spelling, grammar or choice of phrase. Seems to be your main calling on here these days. I'll preemptively yawn now in anticipation.

    May 26th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @25 I haven't really noticed a problem with the Irish or Welsh. Except the non-representative Irish fanatics of course. As I recall, Northern Ireland is still part of the UK because the majority of the population want it that way. The fanatics are just as much the enemy of the sane Irish as they are the British. People in Northern Ireland who don't want to be British are quite welcome to cross the border. And stay there! The Scots we can do without anytime. After all, England saved them from their own incompetence back in the 1700s. If they leave, I trust they don't think they'll be getting back. Scotland still owes England more than £2 quadrillion!
    @26 There is no “Argentinian Antarctic Sector”. It's a typical argie unjustifiable land grab since it's within the British Antarctic Territory. Our right to that territory goes back to 1908. At the moment we're being “nice”. Wait until the gloves come off!
    @28 Sorry, Simon, it is.
    @36 Whoops! A demented lunatic with delusions calls someone a “fruitcake”. How many more times do you want to post much the same thing? What's that mental problem that results in repeating ridiculous things over and over? I remember, it's being an argie!
    @42 Same mental problem as Twinkypoo.

    May 26th, 2013 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (50) Mr. McDod

    Do you have any corrections or criticism about Turnip (51) English spelling, grammar or choice of phrases?
    All looks pretty neat to me, but, as anybody can read, I'm not so proficient in English...
    Luckily he has learned to avoid writing in German, Spanish, Italian or any other, for him, unknown languages......

    May 26th, 2013 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    And there's the yawn I anticipated.

    Nothing if not predictable.

    May 26th, 2013 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @53 Sr Think. I could offer a few comments that would improve the piece but, as with B&S, we wouldn't get a positive return on the investment (in the short and medium term anyway). I wonder, though, what he meant by “He gained any traction”. I wonder but I don't really care. I'm still amused by Nigel taking up my suggestion of incorporating the English Overseas Territories and Dependencies into the UK. The difference is that he sees it as a way to fund some of those wilder aspirations of his, whereas I see it as funding for my index linked service pension.

    May 26th, 2013 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @55

    I'm sure that Nigel keeps the question of your index linked service pension close to your heart.

    More interestingly, I see you've adopted Think's usage of the term 'English' in place of the correct 'British', as in ' English Overseas Territories and Dependencies'. This seems to be a trifle unusual for a Scot, or indeed a gentleman of military background, and particularly so for one normally as pedantic on constitutional niceties as yourself. to boot.

    Would you care to elucidate for some of us turnips out here?

    May 26th, 2013 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (55) Mr. McDod

    I wondered about the “He gained any traction.” bit too....... but I didn't care so much either......

    As Turnip at (56) so rightly spotted, you have adopted my usage of the term “English” in substitution of “British”, as in '“English Overseas Territories......”

    This seems indeed unusual for a Scot, a gentleman of English military background, and particularly so for one normally as erudite on constitutional niceties as yourself.

    Would you care to elucidate the reason for them turnips out here?

    May 26th, 2013 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @56 Why, of course I can explain. When addressing Sr Think I find it always best to offer him those little courtesies that show I for one understand the point he's making. For my own part, I've joined the many millions of Scots, actual and honorary, who came to recognise that the noblest prospect we had ever seen was the southbound carriageway of the M6. More to the point, I can't see an independent Scotland honouring my index linked pension at its current level, earned as it was in the service of the English Crown.

    May 26th, 2013 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (58) Mr. McDod
    Much obliged.....:-)

    May 26th, 2013 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @59 Sr Think,

    You are most welcome....

    May 26th, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (60) Mr. McDod
    Always a pleasure....

    May 26th, 2013 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @62 Sr Think,
    For me too, we are as one......

    May 26th, 2013 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (62) Mr. McDod
    Indeed we are....

    May 26th, 2013 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    (62) Point made, I Think....

    May 26th, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (64) Mr. McDod
    I would Think so....

    May 26th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    So as a “Scot”-highly doubtful. you started your journey south from near Carlisle where the MS starts. In Scotland the road is the A74M. You also must have got off east of Birmingham where the M6 ends. How did you arrive at Dover ?

    Do you have a special high speed internet connection that enables you to reply to postings within a few minutes ?
    I see that your reply is posted frequently within 4 minutes.
    Why am I suspicious of this ?

    As to your supposed Scottish roots, enlighten us.
    Where born and schools - no need to give current address.
    I notice that the Argie posters are most reluctant to do this.

    May 26th, 2013 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    66 Clyde15
    I think they either just look at the AtoZ or Collins,

    It’s so easy to look at a local map and say I am Scottish,

    They are probably no more Scottish than we are Argentine..

    .

    May 26th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Don't tell him Pike!
    ;-)

    May 26th, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @68 Sr Think, he being a discerning gentleman, I could retreat and let him ring me on my mobile, perhaps?

    May 26th, 2013 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    So much written and so little said.

    Falklands still British? Yep

    Should they have a seat in the Commons? Still unsure of this. If the UK was really worried or cared about the UN or international opinion on BOTs then it could do it to shut down the conversation.

    It doesn't. So probably the status quo of the BOTs is acceptable.

    Eventually the Falklands will declare independence as a Commonwealth Realm and Argentina will still be no closer to having the islands.

    I'm betting on it happening within the next 20 years.

    Simples.

    Now back to the Think sock puppet show.

    May 27th, 2013 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John III (Pope)

    @43
    The invasion of Iraq.

    May 30th, 2013 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @71
    Got a reference for any resolutions that were violated?

    May 30th, 2013 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John III (Pope)

    @72
    The British didn't bother with resolutions or the UN. They just invaded.

    May 31st, 2013 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @73

    Spare yourself these knee jerk spasms and check your facts one of these times .

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions_concerning_Iraq

    May 31st, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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