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Argentina and Brazil jointly developing satellites for South Atlantic research

Friday, May 24th 2013 - 06:25 UTC
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Argentina and Brazil will be launching their first two jointly developed scientific satellites for research along the Atlantic coast in a couple of years, according to Brazil’s Science and Technology minister Antonio Raupp. Read full article

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  • Condorito

    Two years from now, that satellite won't be in the sky.

    May 24th, 2013 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Ice breaker anyone!

    Satellite? Lmao.

    May 24th, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juanweather

    #1
    Perhaps you should check this out

    http://aquarius.nasa.gov/

    thus, for your gov't envy, you could also check this

    http://aquarius.nasa.gov/

    and this

    http://aquarius.nasa.gov/

    May 24th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    3
    A slightly insecure interpretation of my post.

    I am not doubting the theoretical technical ability to build the satellite. Even the poorest countries can put satellites in space if they are prepared to pour resources in to what can be vanity projects. Pakistan, N.Korea, etc can all build satellites whilst their people starve.

    What I am doubting is that it will get done in the next two years. Argentina’s self-imposed isolation, import restrictions, customs corruption, lack of USD and rampant inflation all greatly complicate a cross-border project.

    As RC points out @2 you can't fix a boat in 6 years despite throwing millions of USD at it. Your navy ships breakdown and sink in port. Your railway net work has fallen apart. The challenges over the next couple of years will be far more everyday than worrying about satellites.

    Chile has a state-of-the-art earth observation satellite. We ordered it from the French who are leaders in that technology. It is called pragmatism not envy.

    May 24th, 2013 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (4) Condorito
    I ”Think”, Mr. Juanweather interpreted your post quite correctly….
    Envy against Argentina it is, indeed……
    Justified envy….., I must say…..

    Sun comes up on our side…
    Our women are prettier…
    Our horses are faster…
    Our dicks are longer…

    Tough to be a Shileno, but don’t worry, we luuuv you anyhow…..
    Yours
    El Think
    Chubut, Argentina.

    May 24th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    5
    Think

    The sun sets on our side...
    Our women are más caliente...
    Our horses are more agile...
    Our dicks are thicker...

    Yes, we are tough, and don’t worry, we’ll give you the tough love you need.

    May 24th, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    3 Juanweather (#)
    May 24th, 2013 - 02:30 pm

    Well pointed out, Juan, there is no doubt that technically INVAP is right on the leading edge, especially in sattelite design and manufacture. There is no other manufacturer in South America to touch INVAP, BUT the SAC series were funded by NASA if we ad had to pay for the research and development as well as construction costs we would still be looking at the drawings of SAC-A!!!!!

    I we could only get our economists to be as sensible as our high tech people Argentina would be close to invincible!!!!!

    May 24th, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    They will use the Satellite for military purposes and spy on the Falklands,

    Militarising the south Atlantic
    Hypercrits..
    .

    May 24th, 2013 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @5 how the fuck did you work that out you live in Europe you tosser. unless of course your boyfriends from rgenweener

    May 24th, 2013 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juanweather

    So, Condorito, as you pointed out:

    “Even the poorest countries can put satellites in space if they are prepared to pour resources in to what can be vanity projects. Pakistan, N.Korea, etc can all build satellites whilst their people starve. ”

    Then, following your way of thinking, your country must be either one of the richest countries in the world with no “theoretical technical ability to build a satellite” or a welfare country that knows the peoples needs, such as the educational system (model to all latam)

    P.D: I've been told that Chile, in the entire history, hasn't thrown a stone to space. Am I also right about that?

    May 24th, 2013 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @8
    “They will use the Satellite for military purposes and spy on the Falklands,”

    And it will note the signs are Falkland Islands not Malvinas. They will also probably want to photograph Rapier being test fired so they can prove to the world that a missile with a range of a few miles is a threat to South America.

    Wonder what they will make of the Balsalm Bogs? Multiple miniature radar domes?

    May 24th, 2013 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    10 Juanweather

    The UK has not done much in space either but we kicked your cowardly arses off the Falklands: remember that do you?

    Why you cnuts have to brag incessantly about the most minor of achievements is beyond the pale.

    You haven't got the things built yet, nevermind the telemetry in place to operate them on time.

    FFS.

    May 24th, 2013 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    10 Juan,
    You misunderstand me. I am saying that most countries can build satellites if they are prepared to spend enough on developing the capability. That is ok if it is a rich country, but unfortunately many poor countries with many people living in poverty spend huge amounts of money on vanity projects. Chile is neither rich nor has developed the capacity to build satellites, hence we ordered a satellite to meet our specific strategic needs. It was launched from French Guyana on a Russian rocket. This pragmatic approach achieves the desired goal at a fraction of the cost of trying to do it in-house.

    Regards throwing stones into space, you are correct, I know of no Chilean who has managed to do this. But I do know that any Argies trying to throw stones at Chile will be closely observed by FASat Charlie.

    May 24th, 2013 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    “Argentina and Brazil jointly developing satellites”

    No mention of UK or FI in the article...
    Just wonder why?

    May 25th, 2013 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @14 DunnyBurger

    Because it's about Argentina fcuking Brasil about for 10 years over two satellites they are going to use for 'sovereignty' purposes.

    Oh dear, now TMBOA has got Brasil embroiled in a potential war over the Falklands. Ha, ha, ha.

    Dumb fcuks!

    May 25th, 2013 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (6) Condorito
    You say….:
    ”Our women are más caliente...”
    I say…:
    I give you that one…..…. Who do you ”Think” told me that ours are longer? ;-)))

    (13) Condorito
    You say…:
    ”But I do know that any Argies trying to throw stones at Chile will be closely observed by FASAT Carlitos.”
    I say…:
    We Argentineans know better than throwing stones at Chile !!!
    One has to thrust them very gently forwards………. else they’ll fall in the water ;-)))

    May 25th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @14 The UK's first satellite was put into orbit in April 1962. One small UK company, Surrey Satellite Technology, has had 11 of its satellites launched in the last 5 years. A further 8 satellites are under construction. See, you're only 50 years behind!

    May 25th, 2013 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    16
    Think
    So you have discovered the Chilenas are “más caliente” y muy buena pa...mentir ;)

    “One has to thrust them very gently forwards………. else they’ll fall in the water “...yes, and wouldn’t you envious Argies just love to get to that water.

    May 25th, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (18) Condorito

    1) Are you trying to imply that all those small Azabache haired and eyed pretty Porteñas that luuuuv to hang around with us Ché's are telling porkies???

    2) What would we want that water más fría que la chucha for?

    May 26th, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    11 Pete Bog
    And it will note the signs are Falkland Islands not Malvinas

    [ and they may well learn a lot of other truths as well ]
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Sadly for Brazil the Argies will just use [ their ] technology for them selves
    Then blame them if it backfires..

    .

    May 26th, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Conqueror

    “The UK's first satellite was put into orbit in April 1962”

    The sat you are talking about was “Ariel 1” and was made and launched by NASA USA and not UK.

    The company you are talking about was founded in “1985” and enter into sat business in 1988.

    And it is a foreign company Headquarter in Paris (France) EADS Astrium.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EADS_Astrium_Space_Transportation

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EADS_Astrium_Space_Transportation

    Pay attention please in the part where Matt Perkins (The guy in the office talking in the video) says where are they owners...

    Oh! poor conqueror just believing in UK science fiction...

    Now seriously do you have something truly English to surprise us????

    Because until now you have only showed that England is technological backward...

    May 27th, 2013 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    19 Ché Think
    1) Most certainly.
    2) Cold? Only for implanted European types.

    May 27th, 2013 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Still not a British real thing made in Britain but debt to surprise us on these days.

    Just wonder why...

    May 27th, 2013 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    dumburger just an FYI, I doubt Conqueror will watch the Utube or read the Wiki site. They lack serious credible among the education to their lack of control in content editing by anyone........including someone with your credentials. Correct or not, their are more credible sources......those two are jokes and no one but the trolls use them in support, except for farcical spoofs......or SA.

    May 27th, 2013 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Captain Poppy

    So according with your logic SSTL (Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd) doesn’t belong to EADS Astrium because the video with the CEO interview is hosted by YouTube?

    This is the silliest argument I’ve ever heard.

    Oops!

    SSTL uses Youtube to host their institutional and corporate videos.
    http://www.sstl.co.uk/Media-Gallery/Video

    The “credible source” argument it is the typical argument used by idiots without “credible source”.
    Ha ha

    May 28th, 2013 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    OMG ! dumburger......no wonder you are considered a moron on this site. To make that leap and associate what I said about utube and wikipedia as logic reasoning in your post makes you even a bigger idiot by not understanding what I said. It was not an argument; occasional truth does appear there you fucking buffoon. Even your fuhrer speaks with occasional truth in order to manipulate and twist it. Would you like me to point out in BIG BOLD LETTERS the main idea of my post for idiots like to you understand?

    You need remedial training at the lab, I mean la campora. Maximo the fat fuck has really put out a poor class. What was your graduating class of?

    READ IT SLOWLY OR ASK A FRIEND WHAT IT MEANS:

    “dumburger just an FYI, I doubt Conqueror will watch the Utube or read the Wiki site. They lack serious credible among the education to their lack of control in content editing by anyone........including someone with your credentials. Correct or not, their are more credible sources......those two are jokes and no one but the trolls use them in support, except for farcical spoofs......or SA.”

    May 28th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Dany,
    Surrey Satellite Technology is a success story however you look at it.
    It started as a university department and was “spun off” as a business. This is a desired outcome for many 1st world universities.

    It was a world leading business and was purchases by EADS. The jobs and know-how are still exactly where they were. Surry university receives a lot of funding. I don’t see how you can portray this as somehow a negative.

    May 28th, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    27 Condorito

    Because he has a lot of pseudo science in his head but really knows and understands very little about real science AND he must spin it for his supper or be demoted by La Camping-it-up.

    May 28th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Dany, it would be a good idea if you read some of the links you post before trying to use them to prove your unprovable points. EADS/Astrium bought 99% of SSTL at the end of 2008 after SSTL had opened a subsidiary in the USA. The management of SSTL is exactly the same as it was before EADS/Astrium came on the scene, all the employees are British and all management is British. Thus it is a British company that has been funded by EADS!!!!!!!!

    May 28th, 2013 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @23
    “Still not a British real thing made in Britain ”

    No jet engines, no aircraft, no aircraft carriers, no submarines, no T45 destroyers.

    Well then why do Argentina complain about British built submarines, and ships patrolling the South Atlantic?
    If Britain cannot build anything they aren't there. Are you scared of ghosts?
    The Voyager won't fly there as the wings/engines were British before you said they haven't been made. Obviously no Typhoon aircraft in the Falklands without British components, no Westland Seakings , No VC10's.

    The troops can't be armed with British made L85s as they haven't been made according to you, plus the other ships aircraft and equipment that has never been made.

    The missiles with a 4 mile range your Tinpot Timmerman says can hit South America (over 300 miles away) aren't now manufactured in the UK so they don't exist. If they don't exist why does Argentina complain to the UN?

    As there is no British made kit in the Falklands, patrolling the seas and skies, why don't you walk in and achieve your imperialist ambitions of colonising the Falkland Islands?

    May 28th, 2013 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Condorito

    If you just really care to read what conqueror posted before you would understand my post.

    @ChrisR

    coming from “the engineer” that buys “Unix computers” it is just a compliment.

    Thank you ChrisR

    @Simon68

    Doesn’t matter who work or manage the company or do you believe that Shell is an Argentine company because “Juan José Aranguren” (current president of Shell SA) is in the company since 1979 and all workers are Argentine?

    Silly argument doesn’t it?

    May 29th, 2013 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @31 DunnyBurger

    Oh dear! It is like pulling teeth out to get you into any sense at all.

    The computer was a high end HP machine running BESPOKE UNIX, designed for the cutomer in INDIA.

    It was not running blob technology or whatever passes as high science in The Dark Country.

    May 29th, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #31
    Not bad for a country that has ”no interest in space technology.

    The UK space sector currently contributes about £9bn to the national economy, and industry and government have set themselves the target of trying to raise this figure to £40bn by 2030. SMEs encouraged by the Harwell Catapult will be integral to achieving this goal.

    May 29th, 2013 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Carrick1

    I thought spending money on raising quality of living in Argentina would be more wise.
    The Malvinas myth is more wanted to distract from corruption.
    No doubt censored if pictures of a 'sacksful of cash' transfer are captured.

    May 29th, 2013 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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