Former Guatemalan President Alfonso Portillo was extradited on Friday to the United States to face money laundering charges, the US embassy in Guatemala said. A US grand jury decided in 2009 that Portillo, who was in office from 2000 to 2004, should face charges that he laundered 70 million dollars through US banks. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFirst Ríos Montt....
May 25th, 2013 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now Portillo...
Vamos por todo; Rigoberta!
Un abrazo
El Think
I bet cfk will be on her way to a us prison for the same reason soon enough
May 25th, 2013 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0If she makes it out alive that is...
@2 She will never be extradited from Argentina, though clearly her money laundering scheme is worthy of prosecution. In fact, I don't think she will ever face justice. She may flee the country and she certainly has stolen enough to live out her life in luxury. You see, Argentina is very, very slow about bringing anyone to justice and so many are implicated they will likely blame it all on dead Nestor.
May 25th, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina's punishment is her rapidly failing health and looks. She has admitted she is vain. The loss of power will be a blow to her too. She wanted to be another Evita but that would only have happened if she had died before Nestor (he who must take all the blame), now she will be exposed and vilified. JMO.
It may be a very quick and painless way for the next regime to wash their hands of the nasty thug.
May 25th, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine,
May 25th, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you're on track with this case, but in all fairness, it's impossible to extradite an American national from the USA without their consent. The USA has a long history of supporting thugs and thieves when they are deemed as being in the national best interests.
I'm typically pro American, but there are times when they are so hypocritical on justice.
@5 Yes, I agree. Powerful countries have a role in world policing, but that does not mean they are without crimes. If that makes sense? Foreign policy can be a very murky business. There are many times when the UK have supported less than desirable people, usually on the basis that the alternatives are worse and that by supporting, they have some ability to influence or protect UK interests in that country. As you know, we rarely get to see the whole picture.
May 25th, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for extradition, we have had our own problems with the US where the conditions of the agreement seem to have been bent beyond the intention. The current government has sought to resist the manipulation somewhat.
I honestly think that in the case of CFK, the Argentine people should have first dibs at holding her accountable, given that they have lost the most by her hand. And I don't just mean money.
(5) Chicureo
May 25th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just missed it.... Te recuerdo Amanda..... Plaza de Mayo 25/05/2013
http://tn.com.ar/envivo/24hs
So presidential and a great use of public money to pat herself on the back for sicking the ship.
May 25th, 2013 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#5 Chicureo you are right when you way we support less than desirable people and I've been then via my long ago military service, some of which I prefer to forget. So easy for politicians to have others carry out their orders. But Elaine is also correct that powerful countries have a leadership role and it becomes the lesser of two evils. I am hoping as new generations come through the ranks and the cold war mentality becomes a memory, foreign policy will change from that old paradigm........I can wish. I really hate having the old coming back to bite us in the ass like bin laden.
Poppy, this happens on a grand scale in Africa as well as Latin America
May 26th, 2013 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great Poppy, then we agree!
May 26th, 2013 - 04:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0For South America, it's you lot, or something else entirely.
Regardless of what that something else is, Kirchner, Chávez, Maduro, Correa, Dilma, Pepe, Morales... we do just like you lot.
We choose the lesser of two evils...
Yankee Turnip at (8) says….:
May 26th, 2013 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0” A great use of public money to pat herself on the back for sinking the ship.”
I say….:
He shouldn't be so harsh with the old Queen!
Besides, the ship may be in dire straits….. but it is not sinking….
3 Billion £ for celebrating ones Queen in a time of crisis must surely be well spent money.....
He should also remember that the Queen is a direct descendent of German King Georg III. Wilhelm Friedrich aus dem Vereinigtes Königreich........, known for his luuuv to seditious Yankee Colonials…..
HM's uncle, Edward VIII was an admirer of Hitler. He and his American concubine, Warfield Wallis Simpson visited pre-war Nazi Germany and were admirers of Hitler and his gangster regime
May 26th, 2013 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hey you thinkless fuck........The Brits would care more about the queen than a yank asshole. Are you so ill equipped that you have to cut and paste from another post? What a poor ass wipping RG........from the Nazi south no less. Are you really so stupid or filled in drugs from RG's new export? Keep wipping your ass because not before long you too will be out of shit paper. Fortunately for RG's though, bidets are a standard........but that's mostly for Macri's city folk. Hey think........email me
May 26th, 2013 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0m.cher1160@outlook.com
Love to get to know you better..........and prove to you where I reside. Let's see how big you RG balls are.....email me for a chat.
TWIMC
May 26th, 2013 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why on Earth would I be the least predisposed to take contact to a Russian extraction first generation Yankee, calling himself a: Yank Asshole and describing others as: ”Poor ass wiping RG think-less fucks from the Nazi South ???
It's an open invite......3rd generation American........what generation Argentine are you? Or are you a real Argentine.....indigenous that is. The ones that Argentina has almost effectively wiped out of existence, the the black people, which is amazing considering that rio del la plata was a major slave port. Tell, how did you eliminate black people. I have yet to see a black person everytime I have been in Argentina?
May 26th, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't forget thinkless, unless you are an indian like Geronimo or even the cocaine chief.......evo morales, everyone in North, Central and South America is a transplanted population from Europe.
I have a lot of pesos I can't trade in, can I send you some toilet paper?
Poppy
May 26th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rio de la Plata was never a major slave port.
Brazil was, the Caribbean was.
USA was.
I am well aware of the USA and slave history. Do some research and you may find this piece.
May 26th, 2013 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is estimated that 30 millionsAfricans were shipped to America, and the 6 million who survived the journey entered mainly through the ports of Buenos Aires, Montevideo, Valparaiso and Rio de Janeiro
Your world is far from lacking slave blood on their hands. Ignore it, stick your tan head in the sand ......or up your ass, but Argentina got rid of the black problem with their own version of the final solution. Kind of what they now do it the indigenous people remaining.
Poppy
May 26th, 2013 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong, the Spaniards didn't use slaves from Africa to do the hard Work, they used the local population instead.
The Portuguese did the exact opposite.
Hence, as a consequence, in Uruguay, we have no more than 4% of black Uruguyan population.
People who brought the Candombe, a crucial part of our Uruguayan culture.
The fact remains there was a black population in Argentina, the question should surely be. where are they today?
May 26th, 2013 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If only he could reach a Ecuadorian embassy somewhere.
May 26th, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 019
May 26th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are not fewer black people in Argentina today than there ever was.
As I told you already, there has never been a big percentual amount of black people around Rio de la Plata.
All the whitewashing you want stephen, you can't change what happened in argentina to the slave races. Is this another history you are writing like the Argentine invasion of the Falklands?
May 26th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you are correct.....why have slaves and you have natives indians:
”Argentina did not have a large slave population. Argentina declared the American slave trade an act of piracy (1824). Argentina and Columbia signed a Treaty with Britain committing to the total abolition of the slave trade and forbidding it in its own dominions (1825). The Argentine Confederation and Uruguay signed treaty with Britain with the same provisions as the 1835 Treaty with Spain (1839). Charles Darwin aboard the HMS Beagle did not find slaves in Argentina. He was horrified at the ongoing genocide directed at Native Americans. [Darwin]”
But we digress, Why did correa not intercede? Plenty of room.
@21
May 26th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you saying that South America never had a history of slavery?
It's well documented that slavery in the 17th, 18th and 19th Century was
sourced by Black Africans. In the main to the North America and the Carribean, but I find it hard to believe that the Spanish did not also
use them in their South American territories. For a start, I find it hard to comprehend how slavers would miss such a lucrative market?
Poppy
May 26th, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do agree with you that the genocide commited against the native population is a tragedy that should never be forgotten. A fact that we can't merely blame on the Spaniards or Portuguese, but will have to accept as something we took part in. Regardless of how embarrassing it may be.
But the hypocrisy of you as a yanqui, a country responsible for not only the slaughtering of the native population, but also the abuse of the very same slaves you are trying to smear on others, the Koreans, the Vietnamese, the Iraqis, the Afghans.... The list is bloody endless, is quite hilarious indeed.
But
Stephen call me a hypocrite when you point to my post of condoning those actions? One post where I condoned it?
May 26th, 2013 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course being a South American......this list would be halarious, coming from countries where the governments kill their own masses ........and I do not mean 150 years ago.......but recent history. Whether you all toss nuns, priest out of helos, or whether you kill peasant farmers when you steal their land. So yes......I can see why you find the USA's blighted past funny. When may be masters at killing our enemies.........you LOT are masters at killing your citizens from the government........funny....laughable.
Poppy
May 26th, 2013 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are masters at killing anything with a pulse, including your own people, be it in schools, cinemas, streets, you name it...
@18 Stevie
May 26th, 2013 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hence, as a consequence, in Uruguay, we have no more than 4% of black Uruguyan population.
YOU DON'T LIVE IN URUGUAY!
YOU ARE NOT URUGUAYAN!
YOU AREN’T EVEN IN LATIN AMERICA
YOU DON’T SPEAK SPANISH
Stop lying mate, it's pathetic.
Is that really your strongest argument, Anglolatino?
May 26th, 2013 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on, you can do better than that.
;)
Stephen.....your government is much better at it when it comes to killing it's citizens. Ashame when your mom was servicing the montoneros up in the mountains, she escaped Videla's troops and you managed to survive running down mom's leg from......whomever dad might be, to post here and make some of the most unsubstantiated statements on this site.........unless utube is taken into account.
May 27th, 2013 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stephen .....perhaps you mom serviced Videla as well......it would explain her missing a helicopter trip over the Plata. I wonder if she still has his taste in her mouth?
No need Stevie. That's enough to create doubt. That's all.
May 27th, 2013 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0You devalue yourself, not me.
I just highlight. And that isn't complicated or difficult. Just consistent.
He should also remember that the Queen is a direct descendent of German King Georg III. Wilhelm Friedrich aus dem Vereinigtes Königreich........, known for his luuuv to seditious Yankee Colonials…..
May 27th, 2013 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think, those dumb f'ers there in Britain will never understand you that they are actually being ruled by a club of Germans (include that silly royal family of my country..yeah..to bad) that are descendant from Transylvania aka psycholandia (when you read the history)
Anglolatino
May 27th, 2013 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Create doubt? Amongst this lot?
Hahahahaha!!!!
QED
May 27th, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I told you already, there has never been a big percentual amount of black people around Rio de la Plata.
May 28th, 2013 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well Stevie, I suggest you should read the history of your small nation better, because it did happened, though not as big as other nations like Brazil or the US or nations in the Caribbean. Today the numbers of Argentine Mulattos is less than 1%, and in Uruguay the so called afro uruguayan, whatever you like to call it is between 1-5% of the 3 million population.
during the colonial period, the port of Buenos Aires served as the exclusive entry point for African slaves in the River Plate, is an historic fact and still visible ..
@31 Kirchner?
May 28th, 2013 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haha does Fido Dido not realise Kirchener's background?
May 28th, 2013 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or Timerman?
Fido
May 28th, 2013 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I never said slave trade didn't happen, I said Rio de la Plata wasn't a major slave port, as Poppy (was it Poppy, I mix the lot...) described it. As you say (and I before you) the vast majority of the African slaves went to Brazil, the Caribbean and USA.
And we call them Uruguayos...
Negro/Negra is a nickname for many of them, just as we call our wives/husbands and kids Negro/Negra.
#3 Cristina's punishment is her rapidly failing health and looks
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Cristinita's looks are a punishment, I wish God would punish all the girls of Scotland like that! Btw I really do think she is more beautiful today than when she first came in, governing for the people really seems to have enhanced her looks - what a contrast to the likes of Blair and Thatcher who were utterly worn out by governing for the rich!
She has admitted she is vain
To invert Churchill's quip about Attlee, she has much to be vain about =) And at least she is honest about it you come across as hugely vain and catty yet seem to have no self awareness...
The loss of power will be a blow to her too
Even if it comes (and I predict either a third term or the victory of a loyal handpicked successor of hers is more likely than a victory for, say, Macri) it won't be the end, she'd just rally against the neoliberal regime
She wanted to be another Evita
She's already much better than that, she's like an older wiser Evita, but with all (more!) of her glamour and beauty =)
You are one sick and blind poor bastard commie, BK. I actually feel sorry for you when you type that she is beautiful......very sad indeed. However, it says a lot of what you must look like......did trees in the ugly forest fall on you both?
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