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EU imposes duties on Argentine biodiesel

Tuesday, May 28th 2013 - 21:52 UTC
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The European Union is imposing punitive duties on imports of biodiesel from Argentina and Indonesia, charging them with selling the product into the bloc at unfairly low prices, setting provisional tariffs ranging from 6.8 to 10.6 % for imports from Argentina and between zero and 9.6 % for those from Indonesia. Read full article

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  • ElaineB

    Oh, dear. The deck of cards is collapsing.

    Timerman forgot the first rule of foreign policy: Don't piss everyone off at the same time.

    May 28th, 2013 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljb

    Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.

    May 28th, 2013 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @1
    “Timerman forgot the first rule of foreign policy: Don't piss everyone off at the same time.”

    On the ball, Elaine but Timmerman displays complete ignorance to the problems he is causing his country.

    Diplomatic training school=This is what you don't do unless you want to lose friends and money.

    May 28th, 2013 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Maybe they could ask the UK to help out with those pesky anti-freetrade Eurocrats?

    May 28th, 2013 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    European protectionism, who would have thought.
    European double standards, who would have thought.

    We know ;)

    May 28th, 2013 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Biodiesel punitive damages...
    Litigation of the YPF seizure... Years and years.
    1.6 billion problem now with Brazil.
    Eventual Chevron withdrawal of investing in YPF.
    The list goes on.
    “the regime wasn't being sustained by hope or conformity or even by terror, but by the pure inertia of an ancient and irreparable disillusion, go out into the street and look truth in the face, your excellency, we're on the final curve...”
    - Gabriel García Márquez, The Autumn of the Patriarch

    Gabriel García Márquez, The Autumn of the Patriarch

    May 29th, 2013 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Gabriel García Márquez - Socialist and Anti-imperialist

    Love it!

    Continue reading the good stuff, Chicureo, someday you could call yourself a proper Chileno ;)

    May 29th, 2013 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #7 Guzz
    You're barking up the wrong tree. He has publicly said many derogatory comments about your queen.
    “Just imagine, a cow on the balcony of the nation, what an awful thing, what a shitty country...”

    May 29th, 2013 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (8) Chicureo

    I have noticed that your attacks against Argentina have become more vitriolic during the last weeks.
    What happened?
    Have your women been on a shopping spree in Mendoza and emptied your bank account?
    Hope they bought a nice Blancpain or a Jaeger le Coultre or at least a Breitling…..….
    You know…….......... they are half the price than in Chile….
    You could even sell it with a profit ;-)

    Anyhow, dear Mr. Chicureo…….
    I ”Think” you are barking up the wrong Latinamerican writer…….
    I’m positive you meant Mario Vargas Llosa, not Gabriel Garcia Marquez……
    Easy mistake to make for a milico…… ;-)

    May 29th, 2013 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Hmmm another economic problem caused by CFK's government.

    Have to laugh though; Timerman castigating other countries about level playing fields and free trade.

    Oh sorry, did I interrupt something?

    Argentine protectionism, who would have thought.
    Argentina double standards, who would have thought.
    Argentine deflection, who would think of doing such a thing?

    May 29th, 2013 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Hahaha Think!

    All of the sudden, Chicureo's post made sense!

    Hahahahaha!!!

    May 29th, 2013 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    It's funny they are in the top 5 of most protectionist countries in the world and are complaining.....wait for it..... about protectionist policies......

    What you thought you'd get away with the theft of a company by your government and upsetting the most powerful trading bloc in the world? The EU could completely crush Argentina should it wish to do so, consider this a warning shot and a very painful economic one for Argentina, next step blocking all trade which would spell the end for Argentina.

    May 29th, 2013 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    All this good news and a volcano to contend with as well. Seems nothing is going right for Argentina. Never mind the young England Rugby Team arrives next so at least you will have some good Rugger to watch.

    May 29th, 2013 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3 From the limited application of these “duties”, my guess is that the EU has decided to apply an anti-dumping duty. Fairly standard practice when an investigation shows that one of more countries are trying to unfairly cut into the market. It is, of course, a form of protectionism but with the right long-term objectives. If another country, or bloc, can force an entry into the home market, home producers start to go out of business. Then the other country can jack prices up as high as it wants. I've got no specific information about Indonesia but since argieland is well-known to be broke and as bent as a 9 bob note, it should be trying to sell the product for as much as it can get and, if it isn't, there's a reason.

    May 29th, 2013 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @3 You are right that Timerman does not have a clue. He is running scared from the harpy at home. He always seems to wear the expression of a fugitive on the run who has just heard the search hounds baying in the distance.

    May 29th, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“”It's funny they are in the top 5 of most protectionist countries in the world and are complaining.....wait for it..... about protectionist policies......“”“”

    actually they seem more bothered that an Argentine doesnt agree with them...and they dont know who it is (so they cant pay him a “friendly visit”)

    Allowing Argentines to express their opinions when they dont conform to CFKs is something they clearly do not like.

    May 29th, 2013 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    No loss to me. I cannot use bio diesel in my car's engine as it would cause damage.

    Emissions from Biodiesel

    Since biodiesel burns hotter than diesel, nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions are actually higher and up to nearly 3 1/2 times that of gasoline. [17] While biodiesel is cleaner than conventional diesel in many other ways, it’s still dirtier (more air polluting) than gasoline. Biofuels in general “result in more atmospheric CO2 pollutants than burning an energy equivalent amount of oil“ when considering the entire production and consumption cycle (”well-to-wheel”). If the motivation for biofuels is to combat global warming, the title of a New Scientist article in August 2007 summed up the latest studies well: “Forget biofuels - burn oil and plant forests instead.” [18]

    May 29th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Soy for breakfast, soy for lunch soy for dinner.

    This is going to mightily f up their trade balance.
    I guess they can sell it to China for 1/4 of the price they were getting in EU.

    News like this makes me happy

    May 29th, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    This is not the beginning of the end; it is just the end of the beginning.

    Philippe

    May 29th, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    One wonders how the two most voracious CFK supporters on this board have the nerve to post from somewhere in the EU everyday day in and day out.

    I have a feeling they've not seen the complete and utter destruction in generational wealth these disgusting thugs have caused.

    What a very sad life they must have.

    May 29th, 2013 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Elaine we refer to that look as “a deer caught in the headlight at night”. They tend to steer and lost in a trance. There are not many more regions that Tinman and Argentina can find to piss off and outcast them. China is still available, but they will continue to play nice in the sandbox until they are little resources left to export out of Argentina.

    May 29th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    This is how Japanese producers destroyed the U.S. television manufacturing industry in the seventies. High prices in Japan, low prices in the U.S. Very effective, but much harder to get away with nowadays, and of course it's Argentina whose government, on a daily basis, inspires ever more distrust. Even if they told the truth who would believe them.

    May 29th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    100 Highway blockades today around BA.

    I am so glad I moved back to civilization.

    May 29th, 2013 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @23 Yes, the start of the national strike. The teachers are on their tenth strike of the year.

    May 29th, 2013 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Looks like Timmerpunk is trying to emulate one of those Chinese lucky Money Cats with the waving arm, or perhaps wishing Seig Hiel to the Dear Leader.

    May 29th, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #9
    Dear Think
    Nice observation, but I would never brave placing Mario Vargas Llosa and Gabriel Garcia Marquez in the same sentence. Talk about animosity...
    And yes, Gabriel is nearly dead, loves Fidel and the memory of Carl Marx, but he's been quoted being disgusted with the rampant corruption under the CFK regime.
    It would be entertaining listening to Mario Vargas Llosa talk about Argentina.
    I may be a Philistine, but I do know my authors. Last year I read “Love in the Time of Colera” which I found remarkable.
    And yes, I'm a lot more in a bad mood lately. Call it jealousy if you wish. Your country has everything and yet it's all going down a sewer pipe due to corruption. it has nothing to do with my women paying double the price on luxuries here in the Santiago malls at double the price. As for Mendoza, the pass is closed.
    By the way “Perón era Malice” not me, I was a simple sailor.

    May 29th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    Had the Chileans built by now something to replace the awesome for fun and adventure but terrible for security and business “caracoles” section of their highway, the highway would not be closed upon every minor snowstorm.

    http://www.losandes.com.ar/notas/2013/5/29/tunel-sigue-cerrado-nieve-acumulada-sector-chileno-717402.asp

    May 29th, 2013 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (26) Chicureo…..

    I will be the last to deny that corruption in Argentina is prevalent….
    But not at all in the extent that the Momio Press want us to believe.....
    Anyhow......you say...:
    “Gabriel is nearly dead, loves Fidel and the memory of Carl Marx, but he's been quoted being disgusted with the rampant corruption under the CFK regime.”
    I say...:
    I must admit that those “disgusted quotes” from Mr. Marquez have escaped my atention....... Would you be so kind to direct me to any of them?

    Ps:
    This little one from him is remarkable too.....:
    ”Los chilenos, en cierto modo, se parecen mucho al país. Son la gente más simpática del continente, les gusta estar vivos y saben estarlo lo mejor posible, y hasta un poco más, pero tienen una peligrosa tendencia al escepticismo y a la especulación intelectual. “Ningún chileno cree que mañana es martes…….” me dijo alguna vez otro chileno, y tampoco él lo creía.”
    http://www.letrasperdidas.galeon.com/consagrados/c_garciamarquez09.htm

    May 29th, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    If the Argentine had been more cooperative and willing to forgo their normal massive bribes, the Trans Andino tunnel would already be in construction.
    Saying that, Chileans are terrible in handling rain and snow..

    May 29th, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (27) TroLLey_to_Truth

    A good ski season is coming.....
    Already waxing my Cross-country skis....:-)))

    May 29th, 2013 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    @29

    That's nothing but hyperbole-jactication at work.

    @30

    Mendoza always has a sector booming, we have a diversified economy thus we have a strong economy.

    May 29th, 2013 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Apparently CFK is outraged at the thought of a tax being made on talk talk,

    Lolol

    As this will shut CFK up- or at the very least cost her country millions
    With the amount of crap that comes out of it..lol.
    .

    May 29th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Think
    Thank you for the link.
    Be

    May 29th, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    31
    We've told you 1,000 times to stop looking up obscure, out of use words to use.

    Do you live in Mendoza?

    May 29th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Think
    To continue my previous post, I read the comment in a print article which I have not been able to find via Google. Never the less, he's a great admirer of Argentina.

    Trollarse
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/10/05/tunneling-through-andes/1615717/

    May 29th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    Poor ol Laughing Boy Timerman. There trouble at Mill so all he can do is run away............

    34 Joe Bloggs

    Do you live in Mendoza?

    No... He lives on Planet Toby....... Must be a bit like Earth only with a lot more Thorns and Spiders..........

    May 29th, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    35 Chicureo, any idea how many times Arg has announced a new pass or a rail pass in the last 100 yrs?
    Over and over and it never gets done

    May 29th, 2013 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MrFlagpole

    suck it argentina.

    it's karma.

    May 30th, 2013 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (35) Chicureo…..

    One of the blessings of the Internet is that one does not have to rely anymore on ones fawlty memory or on the fawlty memory of other people.............., influenced or not by vested interests.

    I’m convinced that if a man of the caliber of Mr. Gabriel García Marquez had criticized the current Argentinean Popular/Populist Government, it would have been dully registered and reported and reproduced by quite a few thousands on the World Wide Web……

    Especially by the foes of the aforementioned Government…..

    Don’t you think?

    May 30th, 2013 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It seems to me that the EU are doing what is the correct thing to do.

    The Dark Country cannot abide that as they have NEVER done such a thing since the lying twat Peron came on the scene (OR should it be 'on stage' to keep in with argietalk?).

    May 30th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @14
    “but since argieland is well-known to be broke and as bent as a 9 bob note, it should be trying to sell the product for as much as it can get ”

    And in doing so avoid the tariffs. Argentina obviously doesn't do -PPPPPPP

    Jun 01st, 2013 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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