MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Buenos Aires city mayor challenges CFK by launching ‘a price index audited’ by the civil society.
Buenos Aires City Mayor Mauricio Macri launched on Friday a price index to be “permanently audited by the civil society” in Argentina’s capital, in a move that steps up the pressure on the inflation controversy surrounding President Cristina Fernandez administration. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt will be interesting to see what this is at the end of the year. My guess is still around 40%.
Jun 01st, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even the slowing economy can't stop this wreck.
CFK is the Mugabe of South America
Rut ro!
Jun 01st, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The next question I must pose to my Argentine friends is, “What do you think will happen after the October elections?”.
Jun 01st, 2013 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everything this government is doing is in desperation to keep enough seats at the October elections so they can can get legislation through to prevent them all going to jail.
@3 I think a mass amount of Argentines live in denial, I'm not saying your friends do but I've lived here nearly 10 years and honestly some of the comments I hear ! “ we love you Cris” “ another 10 glorious years please ” I mean come on ! then I ask some about her acheivements in 6 years and for about 20 odd seconds complete silence before they change the subject.... Anyway !! I'm not saying Macri is the answer but at least he seems to have his head screwed on the right way ! lets hope something comes of this obvious truth about inflation ..
Jun 01st, 2013 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 and 4 . One feels that you have , in different comments , shown the two sides of the current Argentine mess . The good answer to Elaine' s question is that the current Government will lose its majority in both houses of Congress in October . Reality is as said by James S , the silence means that they will vote for Christina swallowing glibly her hand outs . To make matters worse the opposition is horribly divided . All prima donas who have no sense of nation or pride .
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am not sure they live so much in denial as 'in the moment'. It was something I found hard to understand when I first started spending a lot of time in Buenos Aires. It was quite refreshing to experience a devil-may-care attitude about everything from not turning up for work to not paying debts to flouting the law. But, being an adult with a purpose in life, it grew old very quickly. It was a brief flirtation with a time when I had no responsibilities and a reckless disregard for the future (We all had those moments in our teenage years, right?) But then one grows up. Strangely, many of the people I have met in Argentina don't seem to have made that mental transition.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now I am not suggesting there are no hard-working ambitious people in Argentina because I have met some, actually, quite a lot. But there does seem to be a large proportion of the adult population resistant to taking responsibility for their own future. As I said before, they live in the moment and expect someone, anyone, to take care of the future. Laws are great as long as they don't apply to them personally. Corruption is fine as long as they get a piece of the action. Not paying into the system is the norm but they still want something out of the system.
I can understand it. If I lived in a society where doing the right thing, working, paying taxes, staying away from crime and saving for the future, resulted in periodic economic collapses where I lost everything, I would probably inhabit 'the moment'.
Elaine, You hit the Argentinian mental disease spot on, I would also throw in a dash of NPD, a hit of delusion and you have the perfect 17-50yo Rg.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think when they get past 50 they realize their life has been wasted and they are doomed to poverty ( El THink) and are just waiting for death.
There is also no hope in the country. If you are talented you must leave. If you invent something it will be copied, if you create something it will be taxed or bribed out of existence. The only people who can make it are “connected” and the people who rob the system.
It is very sad and the only way it can change is by getting a ruthless dictator to drive out the corruptions and the laziness.
@7 As I said in my post, I have met people with and without a responsible attitude to life. I also know many Argentines - especially if they have travelled - that despair of the attitude of their countrymen.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are parasitic types in all countries but I met a disproportionate number whilst living in Argentina. The problem with that is there are not enough hosts to go around. But I would qualify that by stating again that I met many who wanted to work hard and had ambition but were beaten down by the system. The work ethic amongst the majority seems to be zero.
LOL I just remembered one of my friends in BsAs - she is a bit flakey but I like her - telling me that she couldn't work more than four hours a day because 'it is just too tiring'. That just cracked me up. And when a a later date she tried to tell me how lucky I am for having so much I explained to her that I worked more than four hours a day to get it and she should try it. :) Luck, my arse.
Most of the people I knew from BA were from Znorte/San Isidro. They had come from mid/upper middle class families. All were well educated but had no drive. They expected to live with their families until they got married and most of them were already in their 30s! They expected their families to buy them their 1st house when they did get married. They expected their families to find them jobs. Some of them were working under the table AND getting unemployment payments, if fact they asked to be fired so they could get it!
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The ones with any drive left about the same time I did when it was clear the country was never going to recover from the last crash. Most of the are living in Spain. UK or USA now.
The lazy ones are still in Argentina at 40yrs old working as waiters and bartenders. It is a shame.
These comments are right on. I am trying to renovate my bathroom and am having a very hard time finding plumbers and ceramists. Many never call back when they say they will. And as for flouting the laws...well their driving habits are just ridiculous. Drive right through red lights...never ever signal turns and drive at 20 to 40 + km over the limit. Mendoza has had 105 traffic fatalities this year already. That is unacceptable. There are times when I am terrified to get into a car.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It has begun in the USA: the trend of the next generation being POORER than the next.
Generation X doing worse than Baby Boom Gen:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2013/05/generation-x-fares-poorly-during-recession-study-found/
Generation Y no better:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2013/05/generation-x-fares-poorly-during-recession-study-found/
Do retirement, no health insurance, poverty and more poverty for GEN X.
No jobs, no social mobility, living with parents at 30, renting homes not owning, smaller or no cars: GEN Y.
USA! USA! USA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Oh Toby, did an American guy diss you last night? You seem really angry this morning.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know anyone living with their parents here in the USA and practically everyone I know in Arg still does. They can barely afford a car!
I have friends from BA asking me for U$ to buy their kids shoes! Real Estate agents that are now waiters.
I am not worried about the USA. We are just about to go into a boom time from OIl and Gas, which has brought back a lot of mfgs jobs. Those young people will be fine just give them a few more years.
The same can't be said about Argentina
where they are rationing sugar and flour
Yes yankeeboy. I take it back I will take your word for it, not ABC NEws and Bloomberg.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMu1JHulUUE
I guess those brilliant Cuban Docs didn't realize there is a vaccine:
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An outbreak of H1N1 flu has killed 17 people in Venezuela and infected another 250, private media and local authorities said on Monday.
H1N1, often referred to as swine flu, was a flu strain that swept around in the world in a 2009/2010 pandemic.
BTW you can believe anything you want. I am only offering my first hand knowledge.
So why do you not accept my first hand knowledge of Argentina? You bitch about how I talk about the rest of the world without having been there. Well that means I spend every second in the place you so often talk about as an “expert”.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Double standards, much?
6,7,8 and 9 . ElaineB and yankeeboy. . Read with much interest your comments on the country . Negative to say the least but , sadly , so very true . It is incredible that a country with such huge natural wealth , both above and below the ground , could be in such a dire financial situation . Or could that old saying be true ?“ As God was creating the world he gave so much to Argentina that St. Peter complained saying it was too much and it would make the country too prosperous. To which God replied , worry not I will fill it with Argentines. ”
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One wonders where the country went wrong . The wrong type of immigrants , happier to live in urban areas and not develop rural areas ? Politicians , like Peron who convinced all that they could live off the state ? A trick well practiced by the actual incumbent of Casa Rosada . Congress who passed laws which could not be applied or obeyed ? To pander to the powers that be .
Like Elaine I also spent much time there , and still do , and I am so sad to see the current mess they are in . How can a country , with a high level of education , believe in Mrs. Kirchner ? As the election approaches she gives away the money , in increased pensions or maintaining low transport costs , and nobody calculates the costs and still vote for her . As she did last time and now a repeat performance freezing the prices of basic articles ! Last time she won and promptly most subsidies on transport were removed and the cost went up. Nobody complained . Now she will do the same and , in October after the elections , the shelves will be empty or the prices will double . And they will still vote fir her . Sad .
Because I have lived there for too long, I go at least every other year and I have my own 1st hand knowledge. I don't need your fantasies.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cheap excuse. hahahaha. I'll stick to trusting the news organizations and my friends who go to the USA.
@16 Yes, it is sad. I really enjoyed the long stays I had in Argentina, the friendly people - I never met anyone like TTT or Think et al - the beautiful scenery, the fun I have there. But that is the superficial Argentina. Underneath is a chronically dysfunctional society where the majority are trying to cheat the rest. I remember one chap cheerfully telling me “We have rules and laws here but we break them because we are Argentines!”.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine, I never met anyone like them either.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny how they both ended up on this little web site.
@6 Elaine as another said, spot on.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's a smooth spectrum, from landlocked central Africa to say Sweden, of how long-term their thinking is. The less wealthy, the less EXPANSIVE the vision.
My Arg soulmate tried to explain to me that he was 'in the moment' till I explained (& he comprehended!) the moment is a circle.. make your circle bigger!!
15 Tedious Teen Toby
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0“So why do you not accept my first hand knowledge of Argentina? You bitch about how I talk about the rest of the world without having been there. Well that means I spend every second in the place you so often talk about as an “expert”.”
Teen Turd
How can you be an “expert” on anything, if you cannot compare it to something else?
You have no perspective.
You say that Elaine, Yankeeboy, Captain Poppy don't know anything about Argentina and do not understand Argentina ”because they do not live there 100% of the time, yet you contradict yourself by saying you know all about the USA without EVER going there!!
Yankeeboy is in a far better position to understand the USA and Argentina than you are. He and others have seen and shared the attitudes beliefs and values of both societies and can identify differences in how people think and how they behave, what works better or worse.
I travel to many of the places you mention you have read about, and I laugh when I think of it.
You will only continue to believe what you WANT to believe.
I know that and I even understand it, but YOU are the poorer for it.
:-)
Macri looks scary here, and I'm not talking about physical features before you call me shallow, he has a mad fascistic look in his eyes. I really don't know whether to laugh or cry at people who call the lovely Cristina, with all her wit and openness, a dictator, while supporting this would be Palpatine...
Jun 10th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 07 days later?
Jun 10th, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*Yawn
Back to the old tricks it would seem.
23BK
Jun 10th, 2013 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your “closing comments” are a mite early, this time.
This is an old ploy you are repeating and now - you are repeating a previous post wherein you are scaremongering about the people's true champion, Macri.
He is a Whistleblower on CFK and her regime.
And what do you do with a Whistleblower? Argentina discredits them rather than investigate their allegations !!
BTW, Cristina??
The 'real' CFK = Darth Vader without the mask!!!
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