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Despite Falklands, more than 100.000 Argentine tourists visited Britain

Monday, June 3rd 2013 - 05:22 UTC
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Argentine tourists have staged a British invasion, with record numbers flying in to the UK in the last year, according to an article by Matt Chorley published in the Daily Mail. The influx of more than 100.000 visitors, up more than a quarter year-on-year, comes despite renewed tensions between the two countries over the status of the Falkland Islands. Read full article

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  • trenchtoast

    Fear not, those aren't Kelly Osbourne's actual eyebrows, just a pair of comedy sunglasses.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    “In a strong message which risked angering Buenos Aires”, I'm sure he didn't give a toss about that, does anyone?
    Still, they are welcome to come here and spend their money, so long as they go back!

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    People will travel anywhere for a decent steak..

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    In a strongly worded attack , Argentina ambassador Alicia Castro accused Great Britain of stealing Tevez , Aguero , Coloccinni and Zabaleta .
    “ It shows the piratical arrogance of the British , who have stolen and illegally detain these players in defiance of countless UN resolutions that I have just made up ” voiced the plump ex air hostess .
    None of the players were available for comment , apart from Tevez , who claimed “ Dibble's got it in for me, but ewen so , I am heppy to wiv and play in Manchester ceety and if tha' gorda hess a pwobwem wi dat , she can say hello to my ittle fren ” a reference to the Pacino film Scarface . It is thought he was referring to his agent , not an M203 grenade launcher .

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    The UK has nothing against the average person from Argentina, just their politicians. The people of Argentina are welcome and I honestly hope they have great holidays, just don't bring CFK or her cronies with you.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • coldo

    It’s great to see how Britain deals with tourists and tourism. There will be no pickets, protest and delays in arrivals for the sake of it in questionable circumstances. The complete opposite to Argentines policy of tourism.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porto Margaret

    I visited the Tower of London two weeks ago and there was a small group. The fellas were all sipping mate and topping up gourd cups with their hot water flasks. Visitors just enjoying the warm spring morning and tea.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @5

    Agreed. However, Mr T's last trip was absolutely hilarious so he is welcome back any time.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Go & have a look, Argentines & spend as much as you like.
    As Britworker says, don't forget to leave though! lol!

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I think the fact the a number do not want to leave is why they are pulled over at Heathrow.

    I think it is great that so many Argentines want to visit the UK. It is much harder for CFK to whip up hatred when Argentines have look the 'enemy' in the eye, enjoyed their hospitality and seen the reality.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RedBaron

    I guess the Argies who (can afford to) come to the UK are the intelligent and wealthier people who have a brain to work out things for themselves. They know that the Falklands are British and they have no problem with that.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    They are probably coming here to change their money into Yankee dollars and open up bank accounts in hard currencies.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • warteiner

    LOL! In 2012 the Olympic Games were played in London.

    @2: Britishc*nt: No Argentines would like to live in that shit hole you call the UK, in fact, there is more British living in Argentina, than Argentines living in the UK. And we have the posibility to live there without any problem because the mayority of us have EU Passports. But , NO THANKS!

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @13 Oh dear. Yes, I mentioned the Olympics in another thread but considering Argentina did not actually do so well in the Olympics I doubt that it accounts for entire 28% increase in numbers or that it is comparatively more than other growth markets. And I remember the Argentine trolls declaring here that NO ONE in Argentina cared about the Olympics. (Or maybe that was just another of TTTs ridiculous declarations).

    If there is one question I am asked by Argentines repeatedly and unfailingly on my travels in Argentina, it is whether I can get them a job in the UK. Absolutely without fail.

    warteiner, you would not be welcome so you have nothing to worry about.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostros

    @Wartimer; sh*thle; hmm so England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales and sh*tholes, well if that's true based on any form of intelligent logic such as Economy, Culture, History, Heritage, World Power, National Health, Democracy, Sport, Rights, Freedoms, Living conditions, Average Wage, Military, Car Ownership, Poverty Scale, Housing, Education, Invention etc etc then what is Argentina?

    I mean if you consider all them things to be the makings of a shi*hole then sh*thole must be way up the ranking ladder so I'm curious as to where Argentina would be based on your logic?

    Also, we in the UK don't have EU passports, we have official British Passports from our own nations. I wonder why so many Argentines have EU passports and spend Dollars!!!!

    Anyway, I cant think of a single thing that Argentina have invented or contributed to the world in the past 100 years, Argentina whether you like it or not is run by a corrupt government that shares the wealth with those at the top, not those at the bottom, its a bad place to do business and that's why the economy is so poor, education is poor, healthcare is poor, democracy does not exist in Argentina.

    As for the Olympics, I think Argentina has a better chance of staging the 3012 winter Olympics than it does of stealing the Falklands.

    In the meantime you can watch you state run TV, or perhaps enjoy some of that state owned energy, or even perhaps some state run football.

    When will commenter's like you realise that the anger you have should be directed at your government not the British, British people have no problems with the general population of Argentina yet people like you make us out to be colonial war mongers, you know Nothing about the UK, our people are good, our society is diverse and multicultural and has been a haven for refugees and victimised peoples for hundreds of years, its hardly surprising that more British live in Argentina than vice versa, total British diaspora is 140,000,000, compared to your 40M

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #13
    Oh yes, the old Argie bolt-hole syndrome. Dual nationalities.
    Why do you need two ? Is it in case you need a back-up when things go REALLY bad.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Naughty, naughty. Language please. And I object to what you called my country. I go to a lot of trouble with my property, especially in the garden. I regularly kill lots of slugs, worms and other pests. Much like British troops did on the Falklands in 1982. Then I plant beautiful flowers. On the Falklands, some temporary “visitors” provide weeds in a special area close to Darwin. Although this is better than the garbage and excrement-littered “streets” of certain “villas”. However, it is hoped that the “special area” will soon be closed down as the residents will be “going away”. I wonder what a “mayority” is. Is that a group of mayors? Certainly not a herd of stallions. Or did you mean “mares”? Yep, we have problems with EU passport holders. Seem to be mostly cheats, liars, scroungers and other thieves. And it seems there's a growing number of cowards. Too scared to travel on the passport of the country where they live. We try to be kind to them. It must be hard not to have a friend in the world. Still, if you ever need support, just remember that we still have a plentiful supply of piano wire, butchers' hooks and lamp-posts. Or you could for a nice bracing swim in our local pool. It's called the Atlantic. Sometimes the other side seems so far away you can't even see it! But we like to insist that all those deemed “suitable” try for at least two widths. Gets them a whole new colouring. White, often with blue edging!
    By the way, the headline refers to “more than 100,000” argies visiting Britain. Are there any figures on how many got back?
    @14 Did argieland actually go to the Olympics? I didn't notice them.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Well at least the electricity works and they have potable water in London. Not so much in Buenos Aires.
    Also Wart, could you please get your est 250+K illegal Rgs living in Miami, 60K + Illegal RGs in Houston, 100K in NYC and whatever the rest of the vermin spread throughout the USA to go back to their homeland?
    We don't want them and
    We have enough Brazilian waiters, bartenders, strippers we don't need the Rs any longer.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Fabricio Coloccini might be living in the UK, but his wife isn't. I think she had a problem with how 'welcoming' some Newcastle folk could be. I suppose sometimes Novocastrians can be too friendly (but not with horses).

    @13 warteiner: “the mayority of us have EU Passports”

    I already knew that, but thanks for highlighting it. Majority of Argentineans have dual nationality and are European.

    Anyone spot the hypocricy regarding the Falklands there?

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jamie2014

    Only one government causing all the problems

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    This article confirms my theory that we, the Argentine people, have always been, and still are, Anglophiles. Just look at the habits of most Argentines and our tastes in food, sports, music, etc. to understand that.

    We must be the Latin American country with the highest European stamp. Our past was linked to diplomatic and trade agreements with the UK as a strategic partner.

    It is very unfortunate that the current Argentine government wants “clean” that history and it is also very unfortunate that the current UK government does not consider this cultural and historical feature as a favourable element to accept a fair negotiation (that respects the wishes and interests of all the parties) for the FI. A fair and long lasting agreement would be highly beneficial to both parties.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @21 pgerman,
    We have a fair agreement, señor.
    We are in our lslands, which are ours. We have NO DOUBTS about that.
    These lslands do not belong to Argentina or anyone else except us, so there is absolutely NO ”fair' Negotiation necessary.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Exactly
    #21 you have nothing to offer the uk or the islanders so I'm afraid unless you can bring something to the table its hard cheese.
    Empty threats dont count.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Pgerman, your government has stated that the islands were torn from their re in 1833, which is not true. And, it wishes to colonise them taking the 'interests' not the wishes of the islanders into account. What sort of starting point is that? Everyone agrees that the islanders want to live in peace with their neighbours, but those neighbours arrived with an army 30 years ago and subjected them to terrible humiliation and tried to destroy their way of life

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • manchesterlad

    It will be interesting to see the figures for 2013 after all the dollar restrictions imposed by CFK this year , also if the RGs use their bank cards to withdraw cash abroad they are subject to a 20% surcharge

    Good start to the English rugby team in Montevideo yesterday, hammered the S.American XV 41 - 21....... can't wait for Salta next week when we play the Pumas!!!

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britanico

    It's precisely because Argentina had so many people of British descent that there's this antipathy towards Britain by the Peronists - it was once nicknamed the 'Sixth Dominion' and considered part of Britain's 'informal empire'. A bit like that other vendetta against Britain and a 'planted population' by Robert Mugabe. During the junta and the 1982 occupation there were Anglo-Argentines like the frightfully, frightfully Melbourne-Hussey and Bloomer-Reeve, but now?

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    People are being a bit hard on pgerman, but it must be said that if Argentina wants to have a “long lasting agreement”, then talking about '“a fair negotiation[...]for the FI” is a bit of a non-starter because the people Argentina need to be talking to is the Falklanders.

    Can anyone see them negotiating away their own homeland to Argentina?

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Presidents of Nicaragua and Venezuela denounce claims against Latin American unity -
    Managua, 3 jun-the so-called initiative joined Colombia a military grouping as the Organization of the Treaty of the North Atlantic (NATO) watchful against the Latin American and Caribbean unity, denounced here the Governments of Nicaragua and Venezuela....'
    http://www.cadenagramonte.cu/index.php/articulos/ver/33366:denuncian-presidentes-de-venezuela-y-nicaragua-pretensiones-contra-unidad-latinoamericana

    'Capitanich by Falkland -
    The campaign of one million signatures by bilateral dialogue continues to open spaces in the interior of the country. Last Friday, the official launch of the campaign took place in the “Obligado” Hall of the governorate of Chaco. The meeting took place in an auditorium filled by the provincial youth, veterans and several attendees at the National Congress of culture carried out by those days in the city of resistance.
    Governor Jorge Capitanich stressed that “Malvinas is deeply rooted in the identity of the Chaco, Chaco since we redoblamos our social and political commitment to the recovery of what belongs to our peoples, with eyes on the future and celebrate the arrival of Falklands towns to Chaco”...'
    http://www.cadenagramonte.cu/index.php/articulos/ver/33366:denuncian-presidentes-de-venezuela-y-nicaragua-pretensiones-contra-unidad-latinoamericana

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    @ 15 Nostros
    “Also, we in the UK don't have EU passports, we have official British Passports from our own nations. ”

    When was the last time you renewed your British passport?
    Please read the front of a British passport

    European Union
    United Kingdom of
    Great Britain
    and Northern Ireland
    Passport

    @17 Conqueror
    It's my guess that you don't have a garden and never have had…..
    “I regularly kill lots of slugs, worms and other pests”….???
    Even a child knows a worm is not a pest…..no gardener in their right mind would kill a worm!!
    lesen und verstehen
    http://www.organicgardening.com/learn-and-grow/understanding-earthworms

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Tellіng_Trοll

    Why go to London when you can visit Mendoza and live the excitement of getting caught in the cross fire of a narco turf war:

    http://mytinyurl.com/y8mv9tdcv0

    And if that isn’t enough excitement for you, check in to hospital and get a fatal injection of milk to the viens!

    http://mytinyurl.com/y8mv9tdcv0

    From the terrifying to the terrifyingly bizarre.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    30. The Hospitals in Argentina are atrocious! They're unsanitary! The med staff had a strike just a little while ago because there are no syringes or gloves!
    Anyone who travels o Argentina better have good insurance to get yourself airlifted out if needed.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @21 You haven't quite got there yet. There is no need for what you call a “fair” negotiation. From 1690 the Falkland Islands have been British. There have been the odd few periods when the Spanish, who are irrelevant, and the United Provinces of somewhere, who have trespassed repeatedly. Last time in 1982. When we decided to be more strict. The problem with latinos is that they think that because of what they spend most of their time doing instead of working, they think they are “parties”. For the Falkland Islands, there are only two “parties”. The Falkland Islands and the UK. No-one else need apply. And anyone else who does should be shot. Repeatedly.
    @29 Well then your “guess” is wrong. In fact, I have two. One at the front and one at the back. I also have a gardener. Ever come across the concept that a weed is a plant that you don't like the look of and isn't where you want it? Besides, it's my land. If I say it's a pest, it's a pest. Falkland Islands are much the same. Pick your own worms from those that were present. And who eliminated the worms!

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    Thanks for the money you spend in my country but your still a shit load of psychopaths who have a twat of a leader who should go join her husband in his grave. Now enjoy our nice hospitality for a couple of weeks then fuck of back to your shit hole of your country.

    Oh and by the way who did you rob to afford the airfare everyone and his dog knows that an Argentine has to do a bit of thieving to exist never mind afford the airfare to come to my lovely and superior country . You must have gone out every night and mugged one of your corrupt political masters to have been able to afford to come to my superior country.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @21pgerman

    You have stated before, and you state once again that you like the British culture and enjoy living in it.
    I think many on MP appreciate hearing that. It sounds refreshing and honest, compared to the pro- CFK trolls.
    Obviously, many many other Argentinians must share your feelings too, and as you say, our historical economic partnership would have something to do with it.
    That being said, there is still room for Argentine patriotism, and rightly so!

    However, while I believe you bear us no animosity, I think your understandable patriotism and pride has led you to be intellectually dishonest.

    A year ago, you introduced yourself to us.
    At that time you explained that you were an Argentine professional living and working in Canada, and you made it clear that you enjoyed the British culture.
    You established yourself as educated, reasoning, and objective, however, you went on to say that you had told your colleagues about the Argentine claims on the Falklands, and when you explained the issues they agreed that it was reasonable for the sovereignty to be 'returned' to Argentina.

    I do not feel you are drawing an objective conclusion about Falklands sovereignty being transferred to Argentina.
    To begin with, historically and legally, and according to the UN Charter, they are British.
    Patriotically, without wishing ill-will to the islanders, I'm sure you wish they were Argentine.
    Your colleague, listened politely to your version of the case, but Vancouverites and Canadians are not the Anglophiles they were, 40 years ago.
    It is most likely he knew nothing about the islands, their history, the issues, even their location, if he remembered they existed.
    Nice guy that he is, he heard your story and nodded 'agreement' in a friendly fashion.

    You know much more about Argentina's history than I do, but the history book you are writing to “correct” the facts of the War of the Desert, has inspired comments on here that it is patriotic “revisionist” history.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    Are all those argies being screened for SARS, Avian, mad cow, plague, and Porcine?

    London is a cesspool of illness. Any flights from there should be immediately fumigated and the foreign vermin quarantened. We don't want those alien diseases in Argentina, we don't have them (except Porcine thanks to the filthy North Americans in 2009)

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    I hope some Argentine visitors travel on to Dublin,after all there are many Argentinians of Irish descent,especially in the B.A. area and you,ll be sure of a great welcome.
    There are no issues between us.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    When does Ireland plan on becoming independent from the UK and speak Irish?

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    34 Troy Tempest
    You say to Argie Turnip at (21)...:
    “You know much more about Argentina's history than I do, but the history book you are writing to “correct” the facts of the War of the Desert, has inspired comments on here that it is patriotic “revisionist” history.”

    I say......:
    BULLSHIT !!!
    The “history” book that he is writing to correct the facts of the War of the Desert, has inspired comments on here that it is patriotic “revisionist” BULLSHIT !!!

    Did I remember to mention that it is BULLSHIT ???

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @38thinkedover

    “I say......:
    BULLSHIT !!!
    The “history” book that he is writing to correct the facts of the War of the Desert, has inspired comments on here that it is patriotic “revisionist” BULLSHIT !!!

    Did I remember to mention that it is BULLSHIT ???”

    My apologies, pgerman.

    You seem to have been vindicated.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    35. Actually didn't you just have a nurse die from H1N1 and spread it to a bunch of patients?
    Yeah I think so
    Unsanitary is what we all it in civilized countries
    BTW there is a vaccine for it or is it not available for import?

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    @40

    Where did the disease originate from? In which continent do people have sex with swine?

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Silly boy H1N1 isn't a sexually transmitted disease. It is a simple flu virus and in civilized countries we get a shot 1x so we don't get it.
    Too bad ( for you) in poor countries the gov't let you die.

    BTW have they started letting in the cancer or HIV meds yet?
    CFK's jet full of Euros takes precedence I guess...

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @Troy Tempest

    I might be wrong with some of my concepts about history..who knows...but I'm trying to be honest so, I'm just trying to express my point of views. I'm sorry if I offended you. It was not my intention.

    By the way, I never mentioned I was writting a book about the Desert Campaign...I just mentioned (this was many months ago....so you have a very good memory) that I was writting an article about J.A. Roca that would be published in a magazine of a private institution. I has already been published. In addition, the number of units published by this institution is usually very limited Just this.

    Were did you get that I was writting a book? For God's sake I'm an Engineer..I don't have time to write a book. I must make my living.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    @those above
    Amazing an Argie mentions how wonderful he thinks you all are and would hope in the future that governments could reach an agreement that would suit everyone…….with a view to better relations .....and you rip him to shreds…????

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #35
    I presume that you have plenty of indigenous diseases that you wish to keep for yourself.
    SARS :- Originated in China. You had better ban all Chinese and their investments in your country.
    AVIAN FLU :- As above.
    CJD:- Caused by ingesting infected cow meat. Transmittable by
    infected human blood, not by contact with infected patient. Beef herds now clear of infection after widespread slaughter of all infected animals.
    PORCINE :- Never heard of it... you seem to be well up on deviant sexual practices. You tell us....with proper medical references from the World Health Organisation.
    #37
    I don't know - you tell us. After the Euro fiasco, the Irish Republic were helped out, gladly, by the UK. If the Northern Irish wished to join with the Republic, then I am sure they would do so. But they will not be bombed into it.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Bolivia calls Unasur meeting with Colombia intention to join NATO - The president of Bolivia, Evo Morales, called for an extraordinary meeting of the Security Council and described Unasur regional threat to Colombia's decision to join NATO.
    During a ceremony in the southern city of Potosi, considered that the determination of President Juan Manuel Santos to join the Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in violation of the peace treaties concluded by the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR) and involves a danger of military intervention to the nations of Latin America and the Caribbean.
    “We can not allow NATO to intervene Latin America. Having NATO is a threat to our continent, to Latin America and the Caribbean, ”he said. The president asked the General Secretariat of UNASUR complete the formalities for the Security Council to convene an emergency meeting to take a joint position of rejecting the Atlantic Pact arrival to the region through Colombia....'
    http://www.minci.gob.ve/2013/06/bolivia-pide-reunion-de-unasur-ante-intencion-de-colombia-de-entrar-en-la-otan/

    'Possible entry to NATO weakens Colombia Latin America unit, saying Ortega and Maduro - The alleged Colombia initiative to incorporate a military group like the Organization North Atlantic Treaty (NATO) attack on the Latin American and Caribbean unity, reported here the governments of Nicaragua and Venezuela. 's pronouncement presidents Daniel Ortega and Nicolas Maduro had place last night during a mass rally in Revolution Square in Managua, the culmination of the visit of the South American president....'
    http://www.minci.gob.ve/2013/06/bolivia-pide-reunion-de-unasur-ante-intencion-de-colombia-de-entrar-en-la-otan/

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    44 A_Voice: “an agreement that would suit everyone”

    Easy Thinko. Teach kids in Argentina that the Falklands (and other Islands related to them) are a at least 250 miles away over the ocean, inhabited by people of a different culture and Argentina's haphazardly pieced together 'history' on the Islands gives them no rights over that territory. Then in about 30 years you might be able to move on and join the real world.

    All looking quite bleak for Argentina.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @37
    “When does Ireland plan on becoming independent from the UK and speak Irish?”

    I guess if Irish people want to speak Irish they will, but by your own assertion you are saying Argentina is Spanish.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    @37 TroLLey_to_Truth: 'When does Ireland plan on becoming independent from the UK and speak Irish?'

    The Republic of Ireland is an independent nation. And confident enough in their independence to produce this humorous piece:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmUiUXMEyRw

    Comic genius

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @43 pgerman

    ”By the way, I never mentioned I was writting a book about the Desert Campaign...I just mentioned (this was many months ago....so you have a very good memory) that I was writting an article about J.A. Roca that would be published in a magazine of a private institution. I has already been published. In addition, the number of units published by this institution is usually very limited Just this. ”

    I stand corrected. My memory is not as good as I thought, I do recall it was about Roca. My turn to apologise. I recall it being questioned by others, at the time.

    I can respect that you are being honest, and it has been borne out over the past year.

    Congratulations on your publication.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @36
    You are welcome to them my Irish friend. Oh there are no issues between you and Argentina because Ireland has no international interests nor have you contributed anything to the development of the world in their own country. People leave Ireland, they don't go there.
    Are your proud Irish women still leaving and travelling to the UK to have their abortions done on the NHS, because of your backward laws, I think they are and plenty of them came here to escape the Magdelene Asylums not too long ago also.
    If you are going to have a dig at the UK, don't be from Ireland, you haven't earned the right!

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @49 Screenname

    Hilarious video about Ireland - I've passed it along to relatives in Belfast and Bangor

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    They say there's a brain drain going on at the moment from Southern Ireland for obvious reasons I beg to differ.

    Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    @51 Britworker:

    Bit harsh on Ireland… the UK has just seen how 'the establishment' can get away with abuses on the populace for years. The Republic of Ireland is putting its house in order, as is the UK by bringing the likes of Stuart Hall to justice.

    Truth is, except for one or two nutjobs, the Republic of Ireland is probably one of the best friends in the UK has in the world. After all, one in six people in Britain has an Irish grandparent (and that entitles you to Irish citizenship, by the way).

    This of course means that the UK could democratically annex the Republic of Ireland, but that isn't going to happen is it, because unlike some nations in South America the UK actually knows right from wrong.

    52 Troy Tempest: the island of Ireland has produced top-quality comedians and comedy writers for as long as I can remember, and I've got to say that with these guys handled this subject puts them up with the very best. I'd love to know what they are doing now, because they are clearly very talented.

    It's also a very good indicator for the South American gloom and doom merchants (who seem to think we are now living on the street and eating rats because of the current financial downturn) as to the true reaction of the people to the current financial situation: we take the mickey and laugh about it.

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    48pete bog/49screename
    thank you for answering that twat trolley
    ,I could not be bothered myself
    it only makes him think people notice him

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    100,000 tourists spending GBP104 million... one thousand pounds each? I guess they must have been sleeping rough.

    I just heard that the average expenditure by chinese tourists visiting Australia is GBP4500.

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    Just reading through the comments and the pure hatred from A_Voice, Troll, Think, etc., with anything British or Britain is quite shocking. I am guessing this is years’ worth of rhetoric that has been excreted by the Kirchners. It is clear that they do not have a rational or any depth to their thoughts. They just regurgitate the bile that is repeated to them. Not an independent thought between those lunatics. If you three represent the common person in Argentina, your country is in serious trouble.

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @Troy Tempest

    The intolerant reaction of “Think” is the common reaction among the people who “consume” the official story and believe in the revisionist version of it. I said “believe” in this version of Argentina's history because it is a version that emerged in the middle of the last century led by ultra-Catholics and nationalists leaders in accordance with the rise of nationalist movements in Europe (Franco in Spain, Mussolini in Italy, Peron in Argentina).

    The really funny thing of it is that it is a version of history that often have little, or no, historical foundation. That's why its advocates (such as “Think”) react despising those who questioned it because they lack historical knowledge and arguments to discuss it freely.

    As one Argentine historian mentioned “revisionism in a stream of history that has managed to survive without having made any significant discovery of historical facts. It only was, and still is, an interpretation of existing and known facts with current political purposes”.

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  • A_Voice

    @57
    Not at all dear lady, there are people out here that are not so naive as to believe that a leopard, changes it's spots. Just telling how it is, Britain uses sovereignty whenever it suits……
    please read this article……
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jun/28/falklands.past
    I cut and paste from it on another thread

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @59 Think,
    ls it really worth reading anything that the Guardian prints?

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (60) lsolde

    Wrong number chère Isolde......
    It's (61) not (59).....

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    @59 Think: The problem with the fake character is that banging on about paying taxes and then pulling up links to the Guardian are pretty much mutually exclusive attitudes in the real world.

    George Galloway has been caught out using the same pathetic, desperate arguments to try and further his (or at least possibly his paymasters) agenda. It just does not stand up to scrutiny as the views of a true conviction politician that would stand up people's human rights.

    If you are going to create these puppets at least try and make them realistic. If they have views veering them towards the far right don't try to incorporate bits of left-wing thinking, and vice versa.

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @62 Screenname

    ”George Galloway has been caught out using the same pathetic, desperate arguments to try and further his (or at least possibly his paymasters) agenda. It just does not stand up to scrutiny as the views of a true conviction politician that would stand up people's human rights. “

    Perhaps ”ThinkedoverVoice” really IS George Galloway?

    Is that too far-fetched?
    Perhaps posing as a dog-lover, he thought he could deceive us??

    LOL !!!

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    George Galloway.....
    Alba’s proudest son’s finest hour…..
    An undeserved honour to be compared with the likes of him!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @64 Think,
    Are you denying that A_Voice is one of your aliases?
    Don't be so modest, Cher Think. lol!
    Don't take too much notice of George Galloway, my dear Think.
    l tend to agree with him about lraq, but most of what else he rants on about...no.
    l am also vehemently opposed to his views on the Falklands.
    Being a democratic person that l am, l respect his right to have different views to myself.
    Anyway, he must be getting senile, not too many people listen to him anymore.
    And left-wingers generally don't have a grip on reality.
    They live tree hugging la-la land.
    l doubt that Alba is proud of this son.

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    64 Think (#)...Galloway is very much like yourself “Think”...a complete buffoon...And where he living in for instance Argentina, he would have disapeared a long time ago...However in a country that values and lives with a “Democratic” system of government,lunatics like “Galloway” are free to do as they please as long as they do no physical harm to any person of the general population.. !

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #64
    No, don't do yourself down. You are feeble clone but in the same self-deluded mould.

    Jun 04th, 2013 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    @65 lsolde: “l doubt that Alba is proud of this son”

    It is not, and I am pretty sure that is why Mr Galloway is such a staunch Unionist. His views would see him out on his ear in Scotland.

    “l tend to agree with him about lraq”

    I don't. Whether the real reasons were greed for oil or security for the West , the people of Iraq were given a golden opportunity to create new, free society. They blew it (with the possible exception of the Kurds). I'll tell you who did call it right, though: Richard Dreyfus. He basically said that they weren't worth the loss of life because democracy would be wasted on them.

    Going off topic, I wonder where the Syrian rebels got their chemical weapons from?

    @63 Troy Tempest: “Perhaps ”ThinkedoverVoice” really IS George Galloway?”

    I don't 'THINK' he would be on here having a dialogue if he was.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3F0S_GZNyo

    Think might come out with the odd embarrassing outburst, but I still believe he's 100 times the man Galloway is (and I don't just mean his fake usernames).

    How is that the comparison,Thinko?

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    68screenname

    ”Think might come out with the odd embarrassing outburst, but I still believe he's 100 times the man Galloway is (and I don't just mean his fake usernames). ”

    Screenname
    Actually, that's about the way I imagined Think, but a bit older and more likely to stay put and rant his prejudices, in a thick Wigan accent.

    :-)

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @59

    Do you often peruse 8 year old issues of the Guardian? Or perhaps your single fish came wrapped in one?

    In fact it's hardly news that in the early 1980s Ridley came close to negotiating a deal with his junta counterparts. But it does give the lie to the Argentine claim that Britain has consistently refused to negotiate in violation of UN resolution 2065, and it also shows that Argentina couldn't even negotiate a settlement when powerful elements of the British government actually wanted to give them the islands and be done with the whole thing.

    And of course we all know where bending a listening ear got us in the end.

    But now it seems we're supposed to believe that a return to the status quo ante is possible, on the grounds that the 1982 war was started not by Argentina but by Arjuntina, a completely different country that just happened to be mysteriously occupying the same space as present day Argentina. So that's all right then.

    And that's at least consistent with the Peronist doctrine of sovereignity as espoused by CFK, since what it actually amounts to is a claim of impunity. I guess being an Argie means never having to say you're sorry.

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (65) lsolde

    Have told you many times, Chère Isolde…
    So many that even that pretty little mind of yours should have registered it by now….

    Anyhow; once again for the fair blonde chick….:
    I ain’t got no “aliases”, no “nome de plume” neither….
    (Please notice the quadruple negative)

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @68 screenname,
    l was always against the war in lraq.
    Of course Saddam never had weapons of mass destruction.
    lt was propaganda, akin to us convincing the Germans in WWII that we were going to attack Sardinia & Greece instead of Sicily.
    Or we were landing at the Pas de Calais instead of Normandy.
    Whatever, it worked only too well. As the western public believed it.
    l believe that western governments knew though.
    Of course Saddam would have LIKED to have WMD & was working on it.
    Also l believe that the lraqi regime were not connected to Al Queida in anyway.
    lraq was a socialist secular state. Saddam's second in command was in fact, a Christian & bin Laden openly said that the Ba'ath party were their enemies.
    George G said that too.
    lt was oil, nothing more than oil.
    America wanted to get their hands on the oil. And of course they dragged us(& others)into it.
    Look at the mess(& hatred) that we have caused in the middle east.
    The region is more unstable now than its ever been.
    GG, also said that lraq would resist an American & British lnvasion of their country. Events have proved him correct, whatever we may think of him.
    So l agree with George Galloway about lraq.
    Deny lraq nuclear capability by all means & stop selling weapons to them.
    Britain & France are equally guilty of this.
    l agree with you however that it seems that the people of lraq, in fact ALL Arab states that l can think of, have no idea & don't want to know, how to run a free & democratic society.
    @71 Think,
    Quite a condescending little microbe aren't we?
    No wonder your last wife left you.

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (72) Isolde, honey

    Wrong wife...
    It was the second one that left...
    The streetwise pretty little blonde one...
    Lousy wife and mother though...
    Lucky me :-)

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #72 um... Iraq did have WMD in the form of chemical agents, at least in the early 90s. During the Iran-Iraq war and subsequent internal rebellions of the order of tens of thousands were killed in chemical attacks. Whether or not Iraq still had a stockpile in 2003 is less clear.

    Let's also be clear, to say that the people of Iraq or Afghanistan are resisting the “Coalition” is not entirely true. The majority of violence in both countries is directed internally. In Iraq the majority of the violence is sectarian and in Afghanistan it is a continuation of the pre-2002 civil war though now with the “vaguely” democratic “relatively” secular forces in more control.

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    68,72 screenname, Isolde

    THINK
    showing the courage of his convictions:

    http://youtu.be/xdHmzPhuoF8

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    @75 Troy Tempest

    The resemblance is so uncanny, that you may well have uncovered Think's identity.

    I wonder if this means stevie is Elvis and Nostrils is Hitler?

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Screen name

    I wonder if this means stevie is Elvis and Nostrils is Hitler?”

    Its “even money” on those ones.

    Think says only his second wife “left” him.

    Does that mean his first wife killed herself?

    Jun 05th, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ernie4001

    Watch out, with the crisis the number will increase but not for tourism.

    Jun 08th, 2013 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    I think that the problem we have here is that the Argentine is not a very democratic country. Anyone living there who does not agree with the government of the Argentine is shouted down and made to appear treacherous towards their country. I believe that there are millions of thinking Argentineans who do not believe that the Falklands belongs to anybody, other than those that live there. Unfortunately their views are suppressed

    Jun 08th, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @79 “I believe that there are millions of thinking Argentineans who do not believe that the Falklands belongs to anybody, other than those that live there. ”

    There are people like that, but there are a very small minority. You know how in Germany you aren't allowed to be a Nazi, and if you are, you are sent to jail and no lawyer can defend you? It's the same thing here in Argentina with traitors. Only that we don't send them to jail, we just chase them with torches and pitchforks. It's not the government that chases them, it's the people.

    Jun 08th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    @80
    Your comment shows how deranged you and like minded brainwashed companeros have become. Luckily I think you'll find you're the minority. The average joe is more worried about getting home safely, beating the piquiteros, and waiting for the never-ending cycle of corruption and ludricous propaganda to end. Not everyone is as thick as cfk and her cronies believe.

    Jun 09th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @82 yes, the average joe is worried about safety and corruption, but he also likes to chase traitors with pitchforks. I'm exaggerating a bit but really, people who are in favor of letting the UK keep the islands aren't treated very well in Argentina.

    Jun 10th, 2013 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    Well if the people have only been told one thing, then that is what the believe. Most countries of the world accept history, for example the Romans or the French would still own the UK . Red Indian would still own North America and Ameri-Indians would still own the Argentine. That is history though. The Argentine has to move on to the how it is in the present world

    Jun 10th, 2013 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @83 The people don´t want to move on, and I don´t see that happening anytime soon.

    Jun 10th, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    Oh its really just a matter of government, they have set out to whip up feelings. The aims of governments doing this is often contrary to what they are hoping to achieve. For example in the UK Cameron has recently pushed through homosexual marriage. The underlying thing here is unstated, but Cameron is an avid pro European and the European Union. He wants to keep in step with them and let them see what a good European he is !

    Jun 10th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    @83
    Don't add insult to injury
    The Normans were not French.......colony was established by King Rollo.....a Viking........Norman......North...Men.....Norse-Men......who settled in the territory of Normandy in France after being given a Duchy by the French King, conquered other lands (including France) and protected the French coast from foreign attacks.

    Jun 10th, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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