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OAS assembly adopts convention against racism and all forms of intolerance
The General Assembly of the Organization of American States (OAS), meeting in Guatemala adopted the Inter-American Convention against Racism, Racial Discrimination, and Related Forms of Intolerance and the Inter-American Convention against All Forms of Discrimination and Intolerance and opened them for signature. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis is a bit like signing the Convention on We Believe That God Is Great.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or signing the Convention on The American Way Of Life And Apple Pie.
Seriously though, can't you see the crying need to conflate these two conventions?
It will be rather hypocritical should Argentina 'sign on', with their ongoing track record.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 I agree. “Think” is, of course, a prime candidate for legal sanctions, but there are others. I think we can safely take it that any slurs against the people of the Falkland Islands will amount to racism. Can't have any discrimination or intolerance toward them. We probably need to make the case for MercoPress to disclose the location of all those that comment. Just so we can send a report to the right quarter.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great news. Looking forward to an early signature by the RG's and their subsequent dropping of all economic sanctions and blockades against our people. Excellent progress.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0What ? It doesn't apply to us.....what do you mean....but surely its universal... it must apply to all people, doesn't it ?????
According to Argentine logic or should I say lack of logic this doesn't apply to the Falkland Islanders as they are not a people they are a population ...er... or was it the other way round - whatever I'm sure Think will confirm that it doesn't apply.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 04 GALlamosa and 5 darragh
Jun 06th, 2013 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, you see gents. There I have some good news.... and I have some bad news........
The good news is that “YES” it would be good if the convention applied to the Falkland Islanders.
The bad news is that it doesn't.
As pointed out by friend “darragh”, to the Argentine way of thinking, The Islanders do not count as they are neither a “population” nor are they a “people”
I think that before thay DO sign, they need to get their heads striaght.......
What if that usurping “population” on the Falkland Islands was latino?
Jun 06th, 2013 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Would that make a difference?
If you want my advice. Don't go to Salta. Its a dump.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0The devil is in the details. If the language of either of these conventions is anything like the proposed language of the the UN”s OIC (Organization of Islamic Countries) convention on religious tolerance, it will restrict the freedom of speech by prohibiting criticism of an idea like religion (Islam in particular). That would be contrary to the first amendment of the US Constitution.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One is reminded of Obama's statement made at the UN right after the youtube premier of the inane “The Age of Innocence”, to wit, “The future must not belong to those who would insult the prophet of Islam.” For that Obama should be derided in the same way Neville Chamberlain is derided for kowtowing to Nazi Germany.
Yesterday a Muslim Centre in North London was burned down, before any investigation has been carried out, it is being called a rascist attack. Well if it was it was not carried out in my name, because it reminded me of burning of the Synagogues in 1930's Germany. You have to fight intolerance where ever you find it, religion, colour or sexuality, it is all an accident of birth. People should be judged by who they are, not their colour, religion or sexuality.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well- if Argentina does sign this document,
Jun 06th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does that mean they will recognise and stop all the harassment abuse and intimidation of the Falklanders,
Or was this just to much to ask..
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@11 correct.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will the Argies stop calling the Falkland Islanders 'Squatters' and saying that they 'Have no right to exist?'
If they sign the document this will mean that they will have 'obligations'.
Yes reality check, but as George Orwell wrote:
Jun 06th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others...”
Can you imagine the crimes still being committed against indigiounous people in Latin America? What about the the Africans that arrived a couple of hundred years ago? What about the immigrants from Europe that were of the wrong religion? The Japanese in Brazil? They should all be respected, just as the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands...
It's sort of like telling the Jews to go back from where they came, along with a huge mass of Southern Italians, Germans, Syrians and those troublesome Scandinavians. Send them all back and give the continent to the original inhabitants...
Of course, we Chileans would be exempt from repatriation as we're so damn smug about our country, no one would have us...
@10 I doubt it was a racist attack. More an anti-fanatic Islam attack. And I would suggest that a lot of muslims should recognise that they are in the UK in the 21st century. Not Saudi Arabia in the 7th. And I would suggest that a lot of “British” muslims should consider what they have done to bring these things on themselves. They dress in outlandish clothing that is seen as engendering a security risk. They “demand” that their meat is slaughtered in a specific manner that is not only repugnant to proper British people but also leads to it being forced on others. They “demand” “rights” denied to proper British people. IF they work, how much time is spent as they trot off to roll out their prayer mats. FIVE times a day. They want to have their own “law”. A “law” that is, at best, barbaric. And all that's before we get to its hate preachers and radicalisation. Why do they come to the UK? Lack of intelligence? Or a covert attempt to infiltrate with a view to creating their objective of a worldwide caliphate? And do they attempt to assimilate. They do not. They form their ghettos. They prey upon young, naive British girls, that they see as second or even third-class persons, in order to groom them for sex and then they pass them around for use. And, worst of all, even those that we might consider law-abiding shield the criminals.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Make no mistake, if I were in charge, every muslim male arrested for any form of abuse would undergo genital removal. Females would, at the least, be made infertile, chemically. Just to make sure that they don't exacerbate the UK's problems by breeding. Every “foreign” muslim would be deported immediately. Future “visitors” would only be allowed entry for a maximum of one week, subject to surgical implanation of a tracer. Further rules as the situation is explored. And destroy every mosque. Centres of subversion. Suspend the HRA. Set up the camps. Three meals a day. Pork, cabbage and chips. Bread and butter with jam. And cornflakes.
@10... Racist attack? What race is Islam and what race are Muslims? Iranian, Chinese Uighurs, Philippino, Russian Chechnyan, Indonesian, Nigerian/Somalian/Mali, Turkish, Egyptian, Saudi Arabian, Pakistani? Race is a red herring. Islam is a political religious ideology and it is a supremacist, repressive, homophobic , misogynist and totalitarian one at that. Islam, not Muslims, is a cancer on modern civilization. Muslims must reform this ideology.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 Conqueror
Jun 06th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some people do hold the views you complain of, but to to label all Muslims with the same brush makes you just as repugnant as such persons.
For it is readily apparent that you are simply a racist who has just emerged from your dank and dark edifice.
The RG govt are currently sponsoring a brainwashing campaign, to try and justify to people why they should steal the Falkland Islanders land / fishing rights and oil. Its appalling and shameless, have a read...
Jun 06th, 2013 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'pueblospormalvinas - one million signatures - is a social, political and educational awareness whose main goal each day is more Argentine and South American citizens about the importance of the cause Malvinas for the future of our development and collective prosperity...'
@7 bushpilot
Remember this from 12/03/13...
'Argentine President Cristina Fernández - rejected the referendum held at the Falklands/Malvinas Islands, and assured it “was a parody” likening to a “squatters’ condominium meeting” who illegally live in an occupied territory....'
This was the most disgraceful comment I'd heard for a while. Saying the population of the FI, who have migrated over hundreds of years from all over the world, are illegally living in their homes...
Personally I think the FIG must to do more to highlight the fact that Argentina blatantly wants to steal their resources!
'Racism involves the belief in racial differences, which acts as a justification for non-equal treatment (which some regard as “discrimination”) of members of that race.[11] The term is commonly used negatively and is usually associated with race-based prejudice, violence, dislike, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings...'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
It seems unbelievable to me that there was not already a set of conventions on the OAS books covering:
Jun 06th, 2013 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'the enjoyment,
exercise,
and protection,
under conditions of equality,
of all the human rights
and fundamental freedoms
of all persons,
taking into account -
the victims of discrimination
and intolerance
in the Americas'.
These MUST have been written into the remit of the OAS at its inception.
Why are they being re-worked at this time?
And what is the (hidden?) agenda.
@14
Jun 06th, 2013 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Equally, or in fact more importantly, the vast majority of British Muslims have assimilated, do not dress in outlandish clothes, do not demand to prey five times a day, do not break any British laws and do pay their taxes and work hard to support their families, and have absolutely no wish for Britain to be an extremist Islamic state, which is what many of them left to come here.
Whilst it is true that some British Muslims are indeed guilty of the things that you say, the same extreme minorities exist in different guises in the Chinese, the Jewish, the West Indian, the African and of course the white British communities. There is sadly, evil scum in all of them. There would just appear to be perhaps more visual or more widely reported cases with the British Muslim society.
What is more important is that the perpetrators of the crimes that you identify are properly brought to Justice. Your rather graphic forms of corporal or capital punishments are perhaps sadly unlikely...!!!
Where I definately agree with you is that for any immigrant to any country, the onus should be on the immigrant to fit in, not on the receiving country to change for you sake, and sometimes that line is skewed.
But no race/religion is all bad, and perhaps only Argentina is the Majority rotten!! LOL!
“OAS assembly adopts convention against racism and all forms of intolerance”
Jun 06th, 2013 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0such a noble quest indeed, but pray tell does this stretch to Argentinas discrimination towards The Falklanders?? or is this just more blah........
@19 But MM.... if you look at Auntie Beeb, they all are like Andy Choudary. They must be. He's one of the ones they always go to. (Of course getting the ordinary british muslim wouldn't be as entertaining and downright boring.)
Jun 06th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19...Wrong. Islam is all bad as it is currently defined by pious (not extremist) practioners. Ask Erdogan. There is only one Islam said he a little while ago.
Jun 07th, 2013 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Every faith has adherents who believe and practice the faith to varying limited degrees.The Muslims who don't practice Islam to any degree are not true Muslims just as Jews, Protestants, Hindus, Catholics, etc who don't practice their faith are not really what they label themselves when they have to fill out a form asking them what there religion is. They are Muslims, Jews, Protestants, Hindu, Catholics in name only. They don't practice the faith or do so in such a very watered down manner that it cannot be said they are really practitioners of their respective faiths.
I have little quarrel with non-practicing Muslims though I do wish they were 1)more outspoken against the barbarism of their co-religionists and 2) condemned the anti-social acts of Islam's fundamentalist adherents. I do have a big problem with all major religions and especially the political religious ideology of supremacist, repressive, homophobic, misogynist, death for apostates, honor killing, death for blasphemy, intolerant Islam.
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