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Falklands: “British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted by the European Parliament”
“British sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands as such is not accepted by the European Parliament”, according to a visiting delegation of EU lawmakers who met with their Argentine peers in Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHis opinion and his alone, he should perhaps check what the treaty of Lisbon says.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever the Muppet says, the EU recognises that the Falkland Islands are a British Overseas Territory and the Islanders have voted overwhelmingly go remain so.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These people DO NOT represent the EU. Now that the RGs stole their oil company EU RG relations are very strained. Even the Spaniards are pissed off with them.
Well that's it then, Spain has spoken, we should all obey.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spaniards saying whatever they think will get them what they want...It will be remembered.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are these people officially representing any legislative body?
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0smells like a scam to me ! so Argentina can get what they want FI and Spain get what they want Gib !! problem there is, the WILL of the people living on BOT is stronger than the WILL of these government officials who don't respect rules.....
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is MP bringing up this story now, it happened about 2 months ago and was not news worthy then. Now it is very old hat!!!!!!!
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is a Spanish MEP and has such thinks he has the god given right to speak for the rest of the European Parliament and all of its member states on foreign policy, why let a little think like remit, get in the way.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now we know where the Argentines get it from, when they constantly speak for the opinion of the rest of the world. Seems arrogance is something else they also inherited from the Spanish, along with the so called Malvinas sovereignty.
Didn't he get his wrist get in the chamber, I could have swore he did?
Not the first time this has been reported here. Why is it back again? The European Parliament, of course, has no role in the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. And Yañez Barnuevo, being Spanish, is a wanker. Most Spaniards are wankers. Indistinguishable from argie scum. Do not be concerned, Islanders. The slugs of the EU cannot change anything. “British sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands as such is not accepted by the European Parliament”. European Parliamentary interference in British affairs outside the territory of the EU is not accepted. Understanding is growing and, before long, Britain will no longer be a member of the EU. Besides, the EU has no “capability” in the military sense. Put 26 members of the EU together and the greatest military capability belongs to Britain. Just as Britain can beat anything and everything in Latin America, it can also beat anything and everything in Europe.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That should read, didn't he get his wrists slapped in the chamber?
Jun 15th, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jun 15th, 2013 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not quite true……..
Global firepower rankings puts UK at No 5
But combine……
France No 6
Germany No 7
Italy No 9
UK Total Nuclear Warheads…….225
………Active Nuclear Warheads…160
France Total Nuclear Warheads…….300
………Active Nuclear Warheads…290
Germany and Italy only have nuclear capability through Nato……
So EU outguns the UK…….Fact!
Where did you get your figures for the active warheads. I should have thought that, that was classified information?
Jun 15th, 2013 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, how many of the damn things do you need, one is too many, whoever as them!
@12 RC
Jun 15th, 2013 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He probably got it from wikipedia. That's where he gets all of his information.
11 A-Voiceof Thinkedover
Jun 15th, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations, you are truly the Argentine counterpart of our Conqueror !!!
In fact, you SURPASS him, in many ways!!
*wink, wink*
If “British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted by the European Parliament”.... then yes is accepted the sovereignty Argentine.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no other possible conclusion.
He said the thing same weeks ago. This is old news.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12..13
Jun 15th, 2013 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
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@14
Nudge Nudge....Wink Wink....say no more.......??
I have no idea what you are inferring??
Spanish sovereignity over Spain, as such, has never been accepted by the European Parliament either, for the simple reason that the European Parliament isn't in the sovereignity accepting business to begin with.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But in the stupidity stakes, even Senor Barnuevo is hopelessly outclassed by Filmus, who apparently believes that by holding up an EU-Mercosur agreement, he can force the EU to back Arjuntina against the UK.
The question of the acceptance or non-acceptance by the European Parliament of British sovereignty over the Falklands islands simply doesn't arise. Articles 198-204 in Part 4 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) known as the Treaty of Lisburn clearly recognises the status of the Falkland Islands as being a UK overseas territory. All 27 member countries and signatories of the said treaty are thereby in agreement with this fact. Anyway Spanish MEP Luis Yañez Barnuevo is simply speaking for himself, he has no authority to speak for the European Parliament (which has never dicussed or voted on the issue) or to contradict the Treaty of Lisburn.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is one other possible conclusion, this Spanish MEP who came there for discussions on trade, WAS KISSING YOUR ASS AND TALKING OUT OF HIS, as ever, you fell for it.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really think that a single Spanish MEP with a remit to discuss trade, is empowered to speak on behalf of the European Parliament on matters of foreign policy?
What a silly question, of course you do, I forgot who I was talking to. You people do not behave like other normal people, your so bittered and twisted over the so called Malvinas, you believe anything you hear. What you do not hear, you simply make up and believe that too.
We have a new EU Expert Anglo Turnip in town......
Jun 15th, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At (19) he says.....:
“..... the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union known as the Treaty of Lisburn clearly recognises the status of the Falkland Islands as being a UK overseas territory”
And...:
“Spanish MEP Luis Yañez Barnuevo ..... has no authority to speak for the European Parliament ...... or to contradict the Treaty of Lisburn.”
I say....:
It's not Lisburn.....
It's Lisbon ....... L-I-S-B-O-N.
In Portugal..... P-O-R-T-U-G-A-L.
T-U-R-N-I-P.
@19
Jun 15th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Articles 198-204 in Part 4 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union”
As the inclusion of the Falkland Islands in the EU as an overseas territory of the UK, is in a treaty, expect Argentina to deny this.
Argentina don't stick to treaties, UN resolutions, trade agreements.
The Spanish MEPs comments are incorrect and in any case the UK puts more money into the EU than Spain so they can go and swivel.
That it?
Jun 15th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A Geography lesson and the usual Turnip quip?
Hardly worth the effort!
Forgot to mention......
Jun 15th, 2013 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spanish MEP Luis Yañez Barnuevo is absolutely right when he says....: “British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted by the European Parliament”
It's not.
And... Think and “A_Voice” both turn up, together, again LOL!
Jun 15th, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a coincidence *winky winky, wink wink* Think.
:-D
You obviously have not read the LISBURN TREATY, have you El Think?
Jun 15th, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then again, you probably have and your only copying your Spanish friend by talking out the same part of your anatomy!
@25
Jun 15th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really are becoming as obsessed as Skippy…….you need to get a girlfriend or something Mate!
I must admit an hour and a half difference between my post 11 and post 21 is almost on par with Planck Time…..10-43 seconds……..Not ;-))))........(Quantum Mechanics joke!)
Why do you make it so easy for me to ridicule you?
[ WHO CARES, ]
Jun 15th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let’s get one thing straight=
The leaders of Gibraltar have told the Spanish publicly to get lost; Gibraltar will never ever be Spanish full stop,
They also told this to the C24 ,
The leaders of the Falklands have told CFK publicly that they will never be argentine,
And the British government have told all 3 that neither Gibraltar nor the Falklands will ever become Spanish or argentine, as long as the people freely wish it,
Now put simply= unless these people are willing to back up this fool and force the British to give em both up, there is nothing they or anyone else can do
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Now you Argies don’t have to agree or disagree that’s your free choice,
But unless you are willing to destroy democracy and cause violence to get what you want,
You should just go quietly like sheep and baaa of.
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On the other hand,
Perhaps dragging the world into conflict to satisfy your greed,
Is what you really want..?
Leave them to live in peace..
[ we do ]
27 Avoice of Thinkedover
Jun 15th, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Why do you make it so easy for me to ridicule you?”
Think,
Nothing stops you from ridiculing everyone, especially when you can't think of an argument or you are looking for some fresh way to draw attention to yourself.
Sad man.
(27) A_Voice
Jun 15th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I ”Think” that Troy Tempest lives in a reductionist fractal Cantorian marionet universe ruled by Wheeler–Feynman’s time symmetry ;-)
Articles 198 in Part 4 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) states:
Jun 15th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Member States agree to associate with the Union the non-European countries and territories which have special relations with Denmark, France, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom. These countries and territories (hereinafter called the ”countries and territories”) are listed in Annex II.
The purpose of association shall be to promote the economic and social development of the countries and territories and to establish close economic relations between them and the Union as a whole.
In accordance with the principles set out in the preamble to this Treaty, association shall serve primarily to further the interests and prosperity of the inhabitants of these countries and territories in order to lead them to the economic, social and cultural development to which they aspire.”
Annex 2 reads:
Annex Two. Overseas countries and territories to which the provisions of Part Four of the Treaty of The Functioning of the European Union apply.
Greenland. French New Caledonia and Dependencies. French Polynesia and the French Southern and Antarctic Territories. The French Wallis and Futuna Islands. The French islands of Mayotte, Saint Pierre and Miquelon. The Dutch island of Aruba and the Dutch Antilles (the islands of Bonaire, Curaçao, Saba, St Eustatius and St Maarten), plus Anguilla, The Cayman Islands, The Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Montserrat, Pitcairn, Saint Helena and Dependencies, British Antarctic Territory, British Indian Ocean Territory, The Turks and Caicos Islands, The British Virgin Islands and Bermuda.
Just for the Hell of it I have emailed senor Barnuevo and asked him for the appropriate legislation or vote that has given him the authority to make this statement. It will be interesting to see if he replies.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think I will also contact my own MEP and ask the same question. I have contacted him in the past about Malta's attempt to ignore the EU's Laws on the killing of migratort birds.
Much to my surprise, he took it all the way to the top and I received emails back with details of the EU's proposed actions against Malta.
As my local MEP has Tory sympathies and Mr. Barnuevo is the MEP for the Spanish Socialist Worker's Party, it may be just up his street !
“British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted by the European Parliament”
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British sovereignty over the Islands is not accepted anywhere except by a few people in Cagada like “Troy”
33 Marcos
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Cagada” is a very free and progressive society, and they respect Self Determination, and despise propagandists.
“Have a nice day”
The mental health and wellbeing of Argentine politicians and the people of Argentina is beginning to concern me, especially when statements are made concerning the rights of the Falkland Islanders. Statements such as 'the islanders have no right to self determination' and 'they have no right to exist' are being made be people who are delusional and treated as 'truth' by a population that has been brought up by propaganda and lies.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are these people incapable of understanding some basic truths?
To help in this end, to further better wellbeing and promote good mental health to those that are delusional and have been brought up as slaves to follow propaganda without developing independent minds, I have attached a little something to help those with problems focus their attention on some basic truths.
The UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights:
http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html
It states, 'Recognizing that, in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the ideal of free human beings enjoying civil and political freedom from fear and want can only be achieved if conditions are created whereby everyone may enjoy his civil and political rights, as well as his economic and cultural rights.'
Part I (III) also states,
'The States Parties to the present covenant, including those having responsibility for the administration of Non-Self-Governing and Trust Territories shall promote the realization of the right to self-determination and shall respect that right in conformity with the provisions of the UN.
So next time any Argentine politician states that the 'Falkland Islanders' have no right to self-determination, you will know that they are talking 'bull.'
The trouble with Spanish officials is that they are bl...y illiterate, cheats, liars and fraudsters. Ask any Spaniard!!! They are as sick of these people as Gibraltarians and Falkland Islanders are of them. They’ve ruined Spain with their corruption, milking the taxpayers in Europe dry, and making a circus of the EU with all their stooopid lies.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 030 Think
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to have varied interests……..
Most of what I know could be written on the back of a Strange Quark!……and was learned from a bunch of students in a Frankfurt pub……..they had attended a Planck Seminar!…….
So…….for Troy the term “Jerk” could be appropriate…….positive jerk or negative jerk………nah ……zero jerk
@33
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Odd statement really. Since the European Parliament has neither debated nor taken a vote on the issue it's untrue to make such a claim.
However the Treaty of Lisbon (or Treaty of Lisbon amending the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Community, to give it its full title) came into force on 1 December 2009.
The European Parliament approved the Treaty by 525 votes in favour and 115 against on 20 February 2008. Since no amendment to; either articles 198-204 referring to Overseas Territories, or to the list of territories under Annex Two, the ONLY possible conclusion is that the European Parliament HAS accepted British sovereignty over the said territories of the Falkland Islands.
So there!
@31
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I only see these words in that cut and paste.......
.........“territories which have special relations with..................United Kingdom”
Very carefully worded I would say.........what part of it says Sovereignty?
“British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted by the European Parliament”
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep
@39 'British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted by Barnuevo'
Jun 15th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Whoopie do!
40Who is “Barnuevo”?
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted in Britain.
“People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid, its dispute with Britain will never go away”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.falklands
The Falklands are still a BOT. Nothing has changed and nothing will change.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have now emailed my local MEP Struan Stevenson to seek clarification on Sr. Barnuevo's statement.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not competent to interpret this part of the EU treaty and I don't think anyone on this forum is either.
Okay, so what are the EU going to do about it?
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, I know, check the shape of the bananas not on sale in the Argentine shops, to ensure they meet their stringent standards!
Much better match 25 - 12 half time score, England murdering them in the scrum.
@41
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Barnuevo - pictured top right
You might want to study a piece of history instead of allowing yourself to be duped by propaganda.
www.falklandshistory.org/
@38
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The term “Special Relations” is determined by each of the 4 European powers mentioned and their various Overseas Territories. The particular “special relationship” between the UK and the Falkland Islands (for example) is one of Sovereignty. That between The Kingdom of the Netherlands and Aruba (or that between The Republic of France and St Pierre) may be something else. Its hardly neccessary for each relationship to be spelled out. By ratifying the treaty the European Parliament has accepted the relations between the four powers and their various overseas territoriesm be determined by themselves, so long as its compatible with the preamble of the treaty.
I can find no record of any vote or debate within the European Parliament on the Falklands. I guess they have more vital issues to discuss.
I can find no reason for the Spanish MEP to claim that British Sovereignty over the Islands is unacceptable to the European Parliament when the said Parliament has expressed no such opinion. I guess he was just being accommodating towards his Argentine hosts.
Don't await a reply as I'm going to the pub to watch the second half of the rugger.
@46
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So your answer is your opinion on how the EU see the relationship whilst the EU clearly state it as a Relationship.....nothing else.
Question to the Commission..........Parliamentary debate!
“Does the Commission agree that the end of Argentine policies aimed at economic isolation of an EU Member State's territory must precede any EU-Mercosur FTA? I would be grateful if the Commission could please comment on how it will ensure that our trading partners will give equal and fair treatment to all Member States and their territories under such a trade agreement.”
Commission answer.......
“The negotiations for an association agreement, including a free trade agreement, with Mercosur started in 1999, based on negotiating directives adopted by the Council of Ministers. A future free trade agreement between the EU and Mercosur would significantly contribute to improving trade and investment opportunities for economic operators in both regions. The Falkland Islands are one of the Overseas Countries and Territories associated with the EC and their association is governed by Part Four of the EC Treaty. According to the terms of the Treaty, trade agreements concluded by the EC do not apply to the Overseas Countries and Territories.”
See how the reply clearly states the association in a true politicians style.....in other words......a relationship that exists between the UK and Falklands.....not Sovereignty!
Who is this prick? and who cares what this prick says
Jun 15th, 2013 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 025 Troy Tempest and 48 Britishbulldog
Jun 15th, 2013 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am just sat here wondering who has whos hand up who's a*se.....
Do you think that “A_Voice” actually knows he's a sock puppet?
Do you think that he has a life beyond this forum??
Do you think that he thinks??
Same old rhetoric when you can't refute a point......resort to name calling.......what a laugh!.......is this Britain's finest?.......The USA's sock puppets!
Jun 15th, 2013 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(36) A_Voice
Jun 15th, 2013 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
You seem to have varied interests……..
I say...:
Not really.................. Just “Longing for the Harmonies”
Argentina were put to the sword earlier today by a very good young England RU Team. Now that's a point in fact that even MEP's would have trouble disputing. Argentina were very disappointing and seemed to lack spirit. Playing at home in front of your own countrymen you would normally expect more commitment.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina lost again, 51 points! 1833, chucked out of where they trespassed, 1982, sunk, shot down, defeated and chucked out, never to return. Darent go to the ICJ, refuse to meet the people of the Falkland Islands who have stated categorically they want nothing to do with RGland. Crime ridden, financial basket case, corrupt failing nation. Who on earth would be want to be governed by such a load of nutters.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#41 Marcos Alejandro
Jun 15th, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I honestly feel sorry for you guys to want something so much and devote so much energy to even knowing it will never be yours. It's very sad. No one is ever going to “give” the Falklands to Argentina. The Falklands will remain a BOT until THEY decide otherwise (at which point they'll likely be independent).
Anyway, I'll ask this again, knowing full well that you don't have an answer: why are they yours? Even if we did steal them in the 1833 (which we didn't) this doesn't even remotely make them yours today. If it did you'd be returning vast tracks of Argentina to Paraguay at the very least.
(41) Marcos Alejandro
Jun 15th, 2013 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/estadisticas/futbol/primera-division.html#posiciones
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Perhaps these people need to be reminded that they are over-stepping the bounds of political propriety and clearly venturing into violations of international law namely:
Jun 15th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE PRINCIPLE OF NON-INTERVENTION IN CONTEMPORARY INTERNATIONAL
LAW: NON-INTERFERENCE IN A STATE’S INTERNAL AFFAIRS RULE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW: IS IT STILL?
”There is no doubt that the principle of non-intervention remains well-established in contemporary international law.
It is part of customary international law, as the International Court of Justice has reaffirmed on a number of occasions. And it is also reflected in many treaties, such as the Charter of the Organization of American States and the Constitutive Act of the African Union. While not expressly set out in the UN Charter, it is generally held to be implicit in various of its provisions, in particular the principle of the sovereign equality of States (Article 2.1). It was of course included in the 1970 Friendly Relations Declaration
http://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/default/files/public/Research/International%20Law/il280207.pdf
41 Marcos Alejandro and 24 Think
The UK had a legal claim to the the Islands from 1765 which predates Spain's which is a sufficiency in itself.
Even without a prior claim the UK's action in 1833 was legal under the international laws of time.
“the General Assembly declared in 1970 that the modern prohibition against the acquisition of territory by conquest should not be construed as affecting titles to territory created ‘prior to the Charter regime and valid under international law’”
AKEHURST'S MODERN INTRODUCTION TO INTERNATIONAL LAW Seventh revised edition Peter Malanczuk
33 Marcos Alejandro
Under the tenets of international law UK's sovereignty is recognized, it's only under the wobbly mantel of none-binding politics that there may not be complete acceptance.
“ They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain”
Jun 15th, 2013 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like pretty much all that's necessary to establish sovereignty.
The Argentinean posters seem to be loving this...but they also loved it when the EU would not comment on the Falklanders recent vote because it was an internal matter for the British, which is pretty conclusive that, as far as the EU are concerned, the Falklands ARE British.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm surprised the Argentinean posters are getting so excited about this, since the same guy has said the same thing before, and I'd be amazed if he didn't say it again. Or course the problem is that even though the Argentineans are just plastic Spanish, it has not occurred to them that their trait of lying to try and get their own way might be a cultural thing they share with the real Spanish.
Nothing to see, move along.
56 Think
Jun 15th, 2013 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just for a few hours :-))
By the way son, don't forget is my day tomorrow:-)
http://playfutbol.infobae.com/notas/714708-Boca-los-mira-desde-bien-alto-a-todos-los-demas-por-ser-e.html
Who cares about futbol, a game for Nancy boys...
Jun 15th, 2013 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Jun 15th, 2013 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are the Falklands Argentine yet?
Jun 16th, 2013 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nope!
So doesn't really matter what the European Parliament thinks.
The European Parliament effectively recognised Kosovo's independence from Serbia in May 2008 and has since adopted a resolution for all EU member states to recognise this independence. However 5 EU members refuse to do so (including Spain) and why should they. The European Parliament does not have the power to grant, remove or alter the recognition of sovereignty for any states.
Argentina's current ploy is to get as many countries and people as possible to raise doubts over British sovereignty, but it hasn't and won't change a thing. That is not how international relations work.
Anglotino, Terence, Screenname,
Jun 16th, 2013 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just had a nice afternoon in the sun. Took a full throttle blast down the highway with windows and sunroof open, then a nice little drive to the beach.
Doggy walk ( not Akitas, though) and lunch by the ocean, now sipping a cool Aussie Reisling on my patio. How relaxing - all is good.
Oops, just had a look at my notifications - silly Trolls have been sweating and fuming and huffing and puffing all day.
What exertion, what a waste.
Relax Think, you're choking on your own bile.
:-D
Troy
Jun 16th, 2013 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Glad you are enjoying your day. While it is a beautiful sunny winter's day here, I am alas at work doing my handover ready for my move tomorrow.
However I too shall get a dog walk in this arvo (also not an Akita).
And yes aren't they all excited on here today. And yet nothing has changed. I keep trying to get one Malvinista to highlight something that has changed for the Falkland Islands and yet no one can rise to the challenge.
And nothing will change until the Islanders want it. I keep hearing about so many mythical future events and not a shred of detail.
PS: Hop I spellded everyfing correktly, I now howe arpset Thunk getts.
British MP on the BBC summing up how stupid Britains current policy on the Falklands/Malvinas is.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5RWQABijO8
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/11/falklands-vote-no-purpose-referendum-malvinas
There are reasons why the UN doesn't recognize the settlers as 'a people'.
And why practically no-one recognizes their non-UN observed, private lobby sham vote.
66 Vestige
Jun 16th, 2013 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the end of the day political opinions don't count for anything, as they can have no effect on the legal reality. Which is simply that sovereignty is, and always will be the UK's, the only residual legal power to change that fact lies with the Islander's alone, the rest is just futile pot-banging.
@66
Jun 16th, 2013 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The first link is to an interview with an left wing extremist.
The second is a link to an article written by the Argentine ambassador.
Exactly what are you a vestige of? Argentine irredentism?
66Vegetative
Jun 16th, 2013 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There are reasons why the UN doesn't recognize the settlers as 'a people'.
And why practically no-one recognizes their non-UN observed, private lobby sham vote.”
Um, the UN does seem to recognise Falklanders as a People.
Show us where they say different.
The UN recognises Self Determination in their Charter - Article #1
Now, the C-24 has had an embarrassing reversal and instead of indisting Falklands be surrendered to Argentina, they acknowledge they must visit and investigate and talk to the Islanders.
You made a ridiculous statement.
Please show where the UN goes counter to its Charter.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....!!
Jun 16th, 2013 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0George, “President Saddam, you sir are a great man” Galloway.
Priceless, what do you do for an encore?
However many articles and laws you show these illiterates it’s a total waste of time, they are so blinded by their obsession. In any case THE EU HAS NO REMIT WHATSOEVER TO INTERFERE IN THE FALKLANDS. As someone said too busy measuring bananas. The problem at the EU is that there are too many languages and too many people using Google translation!!
Jun 16th, 2013 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0@42
Jun 16th, 2013 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well he would say that, wouldn't he?
RICHARD GOTT AND THE GUARDIAN
That this House congratulates the Spectator, The Times and Sunday Times for their part in exposing Richard Gott of the Guardian as a KGB agent of influence at the height of the Cold War
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/1994-95/249
@71
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the other hand, its only fair to admit that Arjuntina does enjoy significant support at the UN. Kim, Ahmadinejad, Assad, Obiango, Mugabe ... what a significant bunch of people that is. The Malvinistas must be very proud.
'Parliamentarians of Ireland supported the Falklands claim negotiation - The statement came in the context of a meeting of the joint commission of Congress Foreign Irishman, who attended the Carmona Mendoza. They called for compliance with the UN resolution that urged the parties to talk....'
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-222350-2013-06-15.html
'Falkland prepares for oilfield production -
FALKLAND Islands Holdings, which owns interests including retail outlets and warehouses, has spent the last year preparing for the development of oilfields around the British territory...'
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-222350-2013-06-15.html
'Strange declaration -
Every now and then the Government of Guyana hits us with something quite unexpected, and the week before last it was none other than President Donald Ramotar himself who did the honours. Basking in the warmth of a reception to observe the anniversary of the Argentine Revolution, the Head of State announced to his hosts: “I wish also to reiterate Guyana’s support for the government and people of Argentina to safeguard the sovereignty and territorial integrity to all of Argentina, including the Malvinas Islands…” This left the rest of the nation somewhat nonplussed; just when, the citizens of the 83,000 square miles asked themselves, did the President declare this position before, so that now he was reiterating it?...'
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-222350-2013-06-15.html
Has anyone thought that the guy was actually speaking the truth?
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0As Hans pointed out in post #18 the EU does not 'officially' recognize the sovereignty of any nation, even Spanish sovereignty over Spain.
I believe that what may be despicable is that he said it in such a manner that it leads others to believe the the EU 'officially' recognizes the sovereignty of others, which they do not. I say 'may be despicable' because of the details of translation. As an example of how easy that could be, last year at the C24 CFK, according to the translator, referred to Canada as a 'colony'. Now did CFK actually say that in Spanish or is it an error of translation, I do not know. I certainly do know that Canada is not a colony.
Further the point made at post #63 by Anglotino concerning Kosovo also shows how divided the nations of the EU are on declarations of independence.
Unfortunately for Argentina their record of abiding by treaties, agreements to binding arbitration, the UN Charter, a UN Security Council Resolution, even their own Constitution, etc is not good. Added to which they have now 'back peddled' on one point of their claim to the Falkland Islands, they now acknowledge that no 'settlers were expelled in 1833. In view of this where is their credibility?
It matters not, all the British foreign office need to do is put out guidance that Spain is unsafe to travel due to animosity over Gibraltan sovereignty, and it would send the Spanish into mad panic. I happen to know for a fact that they rely massively on British tourism for their economy.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0What Argentina is trying to do is blackmail the EU by suggesting that a Mercsur deal is on the table if they can get the UK into bilateral dialogue with them over the Falklands.
That is when the EU should have said, no and walked away, but the Spanish are cowards, they always have been in history and still are and this guy offered the Argentina a bit of a carrot, knowing full well that the EU has no means whatsoever to tell the UK to discuss Falkland sovereignty with anyone.
It is brinkmanship, but Spain has a lot to lose here.
@70:
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Captain, you must be getting on a bit now eh? No wonder youre falling asleep.
How old are you exactly??????
@ various.
Think/voice;
You........ have to..... get..... out of the habit.........
.....
@77
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Added to which that economy is, at the moment, in the doldrums, to put it mildly.
Isn't it much more fun to watch Crissy being compared to a Drug Lord?
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I mentioned these adverts last week I see Clarin is reading my posts:
http://www.clarin.com/politica/Guerra-Gobierno-fondos-buitre-Unidos_0_938306286.html
@79
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was in Malaga on Thursday and Friday with work and I was told that the only 'ONLY' money coming into Spain at the moment is tourism, the majority of which is British. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!
@76
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0In fact the last time this was reported, what the guy actually said was pretty much that sovereignity was none of the European Parliament's business. This was subsequently spun by Arjuntina into non-recognition of UK sovereignity. Mostly its only the domestic population, the intended audience, that falls for this crap. It will be instructive to look out for the actual press release from the EP, it will he a bit different.
@82
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Somewhat similar to all the 'support' for Argentina's 'claim' to the Falklands but when dissected is very largely support for 'negotiations', which very much a different ball game!
On that note it will be interesting to see how much 'support' the RG's claim the Irish have given them after their trip to the Emerald Isle.
All this argument of sovereignty is absolute and total rubbish. There are treaties and rights that the spaniards and argies just cannot come to terms with. Birds of a feather with the most awful track records of corruption and utter disrespect and lack of understanding of human rights. Still in dictatorship mode that’s their problem.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Old news - and inaccurate too
Jun 16th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a bloody piece of old tosh.Once one gets the spanish and irish and other mediterranian countries within the EU.This was a guarenteed to say this.So remember this what they say with regards to the falklands island is complete and utter load of codswallop and tosh.The vote has been given,the british goverment backs the vote,and many countries also allow the vote.So remember this is TOSH.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is becoming very obvious that if any Politician from any country speaks to anyone from the current Argentina regime no matter what is said it will be reported by Argentina as support for Argentina sovereignty of Falklands which simple shows their belief in their claim is weak at best. What most countries would support is dialogue as for Sovereignty that can only be addressed in two places the ICJ or the falklands parliament as dictated by the Article 1 UN Charter anything else would be invasion and colonialism
Jun 16th, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 078 Escoses Doido (#)......Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Jun 16th, 2013 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting dont you think..?...Spain should attend to its own problems..ie..Castile... (Castilla la Vieja) indeed there is a movement in Castile to seperate from Spain..(Ooooooooooooooo..!)..Guess Spain will need Arjuntina's support when the going gets tough.Another Kosovo in the making ?? Ooooooooooooooooooooo...ohh dear....!!
yes 88 - just as theres a huge movement in Scotland to break apart the UK.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, Do you think we can't see you? A fake nose and glasses doesn't fool anyone.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 010/10 Vegetable #89 . All the English are crossing their fingers and looking forward to this, bring it on... But unfortunately its probably not gonna happen :-( . Meanwhile the Falkland Islands slapped you in the face, just like we did in 82.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 - 32. , 26 - 51. Where was Timerpunk, where was Cristina?
Never mind Toby one day you might be a man.
89. I don't think 28% is huge do you?
Jun 16th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Proponents of independence will have to campaign hard to swing public opinion in their favor: The latest poll by NS BMRB suggests that a majority of Scotts, 53 percent, favor staying in the UK, while only 28 percent want to separate.
http://rt.com/news/scotland-independence-referendum-cameron-453/
#89
Jun 16th, 2013 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Talking ballocks as usual you silly person.
#91
Nice to know you talk for the whole of England - where do you get this information from ?
England seems to be getting quite parochial if you believe this forum. You hate the Scots, Irish, French, Spanish, Italians...
.the EU...the USA, the South Americans etc. Have you never thought that maybe, just maybe, they don't like you ?
Mmmm Yankee - Yes, Id call ~ 1,480,000 people huge.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In a country of 5,500,000.
Not too far off 1 in 3 people wanting to break up the UK.
Yeah. Id be a little bit concerned.
Previous figures aside, breaking up the only country you've ever known, and lived in all your life and which has been your childhood home and fundamental part of your security. Its a dangerous thing to do, its a very tough decision, better to not change the status quo with such decisions with vast implications, especially when you've got a mortgage and kids and all that day to day stuff. Its not a decision that can be quickly reversed or without looking like a bit of a loser.
..... approximately 1 in 3 are prepared to risk that.
I wonder how many others wish to but dare not.
94 Vegemite
Jun 16th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chortle chortle,
How do you keep your finger on the pulse of the UK Everyman, from Korea, I mean, Argentina??
The problem is Troy Tantrum, you don't know my nationality or where I am. I might be very in touch with all thing GB.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or not. :)
Isn't Vestige just another side of “Thinks” multiple personality disorder? or is he another RG who can't win a argument on the falklands :)
Jun 16th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope, but he's a fan of 'Thinks' posts.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the lulz.
as he always pwns
all the No0bz.
98. oh so another European/Argentinian who can't win the legal argument, brilliant! :)
Jun 16th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It must be awesome to be a person from a colonialist state like Argentina!
is not accepted by the European Parliament”
Jun 16th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that no European MP has questioned this man,
Does he now make European policy,
The silence of the European union on his words are interesting if not very worrying,
If this man stated that the European union will fight in Syria, free taxes for all, and all European countries must sack their government by order of there new masters in Europe,
Would this be accepted as FACT,
Seems odd then that he makes statements as if he is in charge of the European union..
Just a thoughtful remark..
.
@98 Vestige
Jun 16th, 2013 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought I was taking notice of Think's (and his known puppet's) posts.
On the subject of the Falklands and a Falklanders he just seems to get repeatedly beaten.
“Nope, but he's a fan of 'Thinks' posts.
For the lulz.
as he always pwns
all the No0bz.”
does not describe the Think on these pages, unless the only thing that matters is grammar and spelling. Are you on drugs?
...and why talk about yourself in the 3rd person?
@101
Jun 16th, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Video Game Jargon......look it up! Basically saying he gets one over on you....bests etc.....
@102 Think:
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are saying you class these comments sections as video games, the validity of my comment @101 still stands.
Otherwise it is more gibberish (unless the 'posts' are something like inter-game chat on steam).
Video game?
Jun 16th, 2013 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jargon?
LOL How very 80s of you. I haven't heard them called “video games” since..... my parents spoke of them. Maybe grandparents.
I'm yet to see Vestige pwn anyone. Though Think was pwned pretty bad when he forgot to change his login with Surfer. Or Doveoverdover.
But jeez pwned bigtime with Heisenbergcontext. And he's still nfi why.
96vestige
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”The problem is Troy Tantrum, you don't know my nationality or where I am. I might be very in touch with all thing GB.
or not. :)”
Veggy
You don't seem to recognise sarcasm or rhetorical questions, do you? :-)
News for you: we already know the answers.
Funny how every time the Vestige puppet ( 3rd person just for Vestige) sticks his head out of his base, he gets sniped with a “headshot” by the Brits!
What a Noob.
Have you learned to play games “online”, yet?
@104
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not my words fool........this is the current urban dictionary definition.....
“The act or state of perpetrating fierce and unholy domination against another, typically in a videogame setting, resulting in shame and embarassment for the victim and his/her family until the end of time.
”We laid down the ownage on those no0b-ass no0bz”
BTW Heisenbergcontext......was you........you are fooling no one!
@103
I knew fine well that you knew what they meant.......was just amused to see you talking to yourself ;-)
@106
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again, if you exclude grammar and spelling Think (or his known puppets) has not really bested anyone on anything to do with the Falklands.
I wonder if that is why el capitano was set up? So we could see one account better another...a bit pathetic if it was. At least with Think and A_Voice you just seem to be trying to 69 yourself (quite amusing).
AthinkVoiceOver
Jun 16th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Not my words fool........this is the current urban dictionary definition..... ”
Nerd, You are proof that any fool can use the ud.
Did you complete Legend of Zelda, yet?
Try putting it on “easy”.
“Real Life sucks”, right???
@108
Jun 16th, 2013 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't bother with Gaming.......it's for children, but you seem to know all about it.
@107
Again you also are fooling no one
Chuckle chuckle
There are more puppets than most seem to be aware of......
I'm pretty sure there are more puppets than I am aware of. But as I have said, I am quite happy for you to run pro-Falklander accounts Thinko.
Jun 16th, 2013 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep up the good work.
@110
Jun 16th, 2013 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Self praise is no recommendation!
If you are trying to claim I am a Think puppet then...
Jun 16th, 2013 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the many good and honourable repeat posters on here that pull to pieces the Argentine fantasy story can happily lay into me if I start to post any such anti-Falklander nonsense.
Simple really.
Besides, I don't have the huge Thinko billboard that was put up over accounts like A_Voice, Heisenbergcontext and even El capitano.
That is not to say you can't be a bit more subtle, but you
@112
Jun 16th, 2013 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How did you jump to that conclusion.......I never said that.......
I don't understand your logic.........Is El Capitano pro Falkland or against?
Heisenbergcontext pro or against? Yet you believe they were puppets, if so for what purpose?
Simple really
Good gracious, Toby and Think must be getting time and 1/2 today.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Toby, does 1/3 of the vote win in Rg land?
Is that how Crissy stayed in Power because I can't see a majority of the population being that stupid.
Well we are talking about Rgs tho...
@113
Jun 17th, 2013 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0when it comes to spotting your extra accounts, I don't need you to understand my logic.
Simple really.
@115
Jun 17th, 2013 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0huge billboard over my account, pray do tell,,,,,,,,,if you can........thought not.
You are right I can't understand a logic that doesn't exist and neither can you.
Shit or get off the pot is what I say!.........but you won't will you?
Ok the truth.....
Jun 17th, 2013 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am in fact a sock puppet.
I usually go under the names Britworker or Conqueror.
Occasionally I use the names Slatzz or Troy Tempest.
oooooo, the girls really are getting their knickers in a twist.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Thinko, just look at your posts. It's quite simple really. So simple that I actually thought you might be putting these shallow puppets out there to get a few more under the radar (but as I've said, the more cunning accounts a just a waste of your time).
@THINK
Jun 17th, 2013 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0““Not my words fool........this is the current urban dictionary definition..... ”
You say those are NOT your words, you got your terms from the UD??
@109
”I don't bother with Gaming.......it's for children, but you seem to know all about it.”
LOL, now YOU are not fooling anyone, IF you had gone to the Urban Dictionary for your jargon, you would have seen that I lifted EVERY term from the UD entry,
(and recognised that entry).
Excerpts from the Urban Dictionary:
“video games
a true test of skill, unless you have it on fuckin easy you nerd!
Nerd: Hey, I just beat Legend of Zelda
Gamer: Who hasnt, motha fucka!”
”video games
A way to escape, like (see weed). The problems of life slip away, but once reality is back, they hit you in the face like a brick.
mother: why are you on those games all of the time?
son: everything else sucks.“
”video games
1. A side-option to having sexual intercourse.
2. Better than sliced bread.
1. Sherryl said she would have sex with me, but I'm almost finished with Devil May Cry 3 on hard mode!
2. Video games are better than sliced bread.“
I 'Think' YOU are much more familiar with the Gaming terms than you let on!
I might go further and suggest that you made the original Gaming statement as puppet 'Vestige' and backed that puppet up with puppet ”A_Voice“
Vestige:
”For the lulz.
as he always pwns
all the No0bz.“
THINK
It was your own puppets that started the whole ”pawning” and Gaming jargon,
......was just amused to see you talking to yourself ;-)
LOL, you're too clever by half !
Curiously enough, there is no mention of this Argentine diplomatic triumph on the European Parliament website, whereas Senor Barnuevo's delegation doesn't seem to have produced a report since 2010. What a relief, though, that they plan to have another meeting in October.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0As the temperature plunges in BA it should be fun to watch the rolling blackouts.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope this cold snap lasts a few weeks
Argentina may have cold snaps. After great weather and beaches filled with tanned South. American girls.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Malvinas has the occasional warm snap. After 364 days of rain and fields filled with anxious sheep.
The beaches in Argentina are HORRIBLE, wet sand, windy, cold brown water and filled with poor people that can't afford to go somewhere decent.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haven't you ever been there?
I see foreign tourism is down 20% yoy. How many hotels have gone out of business in BA? Anyone know? They overbuilt the last 10 years I expect to see a lot of them close after this dismal year.
Brr...how many factories are idle today?
Probably a few less than before the Chinese soy deal.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A drop in tourism kind of pales in comparison to the news of recoverable shale oil reserves of 27 billion barrels. :)
Argentinas beaches are horrible ??
hmm I better check youtube in case this guy is right...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoDpqdPJLbQ
....nope
Just how much income are you currently generating from the 27 million barrels of recoverable shale oil?
Jun 17th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess would be $0.
When will you start generating income from the 27 million barrels of recoverable shale oil?
My guess would be, when you find someone else to pay for the technology to recover it for you.
A decade maybe!
Well oil takes time (as we've all seen).
Jun 17th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the meantime the Argentine tourism sector isn't going to disappear.... its got a nice varied demographic, with great weather and lots of culture.
Not 66% dependent on one declining age group, with more than 80's history as its selling point.
Did I mention culture?
Nice music you got there! So you've never been to any of the beaches for yourself. Take my word for it, don't bother they are awful. Go to Rio or PDE they're much nicer and have a better class of people.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know what the world RECOVERABLE means? In Argentina it means that the o/g will stay safe and secure in the ground until CFK is long gone and people can maybe trust their investments won't end up in her personal accounts.
Any idea how much of BA will be blacked out this week?
@122
Jun 17th, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since you clearly despise the islands so much, one wonders why you have such a neurosis about taking them away from the people who actually live there and like it?
If Argentina has such great beaches why does everybody who is anybody go to Mar del Plata in URUGUAY for the summer?
Jun 17th, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0127 - “ until CFK is long gone” ...... I really don't quite get why CFK is so unpopular on here.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you hoping that the next elected President will have different policy on the islands.
128 - half of them don't even live there full time. Back to blighty every other month.
@130
Jun 17th, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see. So it's just envy that moves you?
130. Do you think CFK's unpopularity with former investors in Argentina has anything to do with the flagrant disregard for contract law, International treaties and/or outright theft of their assets?
Jun 17th, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A rough estimate of the everything that has been stolen or reneged on is somewhere north of U$200Billion.
Do you get why now?
Geography expert and Anglo Turnip Gordo1 asks at (129) ....:
Jun 17th, 2013 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If Argentina has such great beaches why does everybody who is anybody go to Mar del Plata in URUGUAY for the summer?”
I say....
For the same reason as everybody who is nobody in England goes to Bournemouth in FRANCE for the summer...................... ;-)
Arguments against the above aside, how many of the people on this site here booing CFK do you really think lost any assets because of CFKs decisions re investments/international trade, YPF etc.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The people on here have a personal dislike for her because of her policy on the islands.
Which is the exact same policy you'll find repeated by any future Argentinian presidential candidate for the foreseeable future.
134. The Falklands whining gets old but that is not the reason there is no investment in the country.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even 75% of Rgs hate CFK now.
My posts very rarely have anything to do with the lovely British Islands in the South Atlantic.
The posts are mainly centered on the K thuggery and robbery.
Thats 'your' posts.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a plentiful supply of insults towards CFK on these pages based on her policy on the islands. From 'other' people.
Well if I had a neighbor that tried to take my property once, was shown the door and then went around the neighborhood and cried, moaned and groaned to anyone who would listen, tried to turn the neighborhood against me because she mistakenly thought she owned the property but is too scared to go to court to prove it, I would be pretty pissed off too.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see their point.
If Argentina was serious about the title they should take it to the ICJ or SFU.
This constant bleating over and over just makes CFK look like a bi-polar idiot that doesn't know when to keep her big mouth shut.
Typical cowardly thug
If money was involved money they would be in court before you could say, get me a lawyer.
Jun 17th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously have their priorities mixed up!
Well now son if ah had a neighbor......yaawn
Jun 17th, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WOT..Arjuntina NOT invited to the G8 meeting in nth Ireland...?Thought they may have some input on how to solve the worlds economic woes...!!
Jun 17th, 2013 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you do see their point right?
Jun 17th, 2013 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If it were me a lob a missile in BA everytime she opened her gob until she learned her lesson.
The point is that if the RG's can get the headline, it's job done for them. Fact/ truth doesn't enter into it!
Jun 17th, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Straight out of the Dr Goebbels textbook!
Who cares what the EU think anyway...I don't agree with Argentina on this, sabre rattling and distraction by inept politicians..that said, sad situation honestly, when I backpacked through LatAm I was gobsmacked with how warmly and openly I was received....I was expecting the complete opposite to be honest..and still the best steak I've had..
Jun 18th, 2013 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Jun 18th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you would care to explain @31? If the EU does not recognise the Falkland Islands, why are they mentioned in Annex 2?
@32
“Just for the Hell of it I have emailed senor Barnuevo”
Nice one-what's his e-mail address?
@33
“British sovereignty over the Islands is not accepted anywhere except by a few people in Cagada like “Troy””
Read @31 Annex 2 which proves your point is false.
@40
“The Member States agree to associate with the Union the non-European countries and territories which have special relations with Denmark, France, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom. ”
You are therefore saying that non of the territories accepted by the EU as having relationships with the above member states have their sovereignty recognised by the EU
, ie:Greenland. French New Caledonia and Dependencies. French Polynesia and the French Southern and Antarctic Territories. The French Wallis and Futuna Islands. The French islands of Mayotte, Saint Pierre and Miquelon. The Dutch island of Aruba and the Dutch Antilles (the islands of Bonaire, Curaçao, Saba, St Eustatius and St Maarten), plus Anguilla, The Cayman Islands, The Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Montserrat, Pitcairn, Saint Helena and Dependencies, British Antarctic Territory, British Indian Ocean Territory, The Turks and Caicos Islands, The British Virgin Islands and Bermuda.
Right?
#144
Jun 18th, 2013 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0luis.yanez@europarl.europa.eu
Seńor Barnuevo
I have read in Mercopress that“British sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands as such is not accepted by the European Parliament”, according to a visiting delegation of EU lawmakers who met with their Argentine peers in Buenos Aires.
Can you direct me to any motion or legislation that has been passed by the European Parliament which states this. Has any vote been taken on this or is it just a personal opinion.
Yours
@119
Jun 19th, 2013 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The self confessed criminal has returned. It is good that you post here because every hour that you spend posting is an hour that a child does not have to suffer!
Gawd poster 146 has officially become a stalker.
Jun 19th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0How cute.
Troy you lucky devil, John III (Pope) is in love with you.
Anglotino
Jun 19th, 2013 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We haven't seen much of TIT lately, I thought he had left to lick his wounds, or his Campora Master's boots.
As “Pope”, he seems very concerned about confessions and little boys, but what Catholic priest isn't??
Kinky lot !
Funny how his posts have degenerated into nothing more than name calling and role playing.
:-D
Yes poor guy and yet no one will ask him why.
Jun 19th, 2013 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's tried to start a meme and it has fallen so flat I actually feel sorry for him.
Anglotino
Jun 20th, 2013 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now, Vestige seems infstuated with my 'sins' as well.
Predicted, “Troy will die of Aids” - I guess that is meant to be an insult or imy something :-)
@148
Jun 20th, 2013 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you come to the PRC. We have a role for you to play. Your last.
We know all about your Catholic priests. They prey on the weak just like all you Brits.
#151
Jun 20th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0They prey on the weak just like all you Brits.
Argentina population 40 million +
Falklands about 3000?
That seems a fair fight for Argentina!
Troy
Jun 20th, 2013 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes go to the PRC and celebrate how well Chinese society looks after its children.
Perhaps you can even visit the mother Yue Yue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Wang_Yue
Thanks John III, the world is very aware of how the Chinese prey on the weak.
As for Vestige, LOL he is obviously an old man. Few people die from AIDS in the rich world anymore. As for it being an insult that's just scraping the bottom of the barrel. But not that unexpected by the idiots on here.
#151
Jun 20th, 2013 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As you are the Pope, you should know all about YOUR CATHOLIC priests. Is this from personal experience ?
Anglotino
Jun 20th, 2013 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for posting that video. Such a callous indifference to the suffering of others!
I have seen that video before, it caused quite a sensation here.
I was unsure where it had been shot, but it looked a lot like Mendoza, I thought.
@152
Jun 21st, 2013 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares? Your problem is us not the Argentines. But your obsession helps us to do you over!
Can anyone really understand these spittle covered comments by a supposedly Chinese poster?
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0John III (Pope).... WE..... NO...... UNNASTAN...... U
Anglotino
Jun 21st, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby er, sorry “John Pope III” has several alias', and I was beginning to think that “Vestige” was one of them.
However, we the calibre of tripe ( a Chinese specialty BTW) coming from our Chinese Pope 'friend' , I really doubt he has the ability to hold his attention long enough to pull off that identity.
I was taken in by Vestige's “Toby-like” ability to talk-down to others whilst not having a clue what he was speaking about, himself.
I am sure now that Toby is too lazy and stupid to carry it off.
;-)
@157
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are aware of your comprehension problems. But we understand you.
You will know us by our deeds. We will be putting you into economic recession next year. Have a nice day.
Yep it's Nostrils.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quite yawn inspiring isn't he Troy.
Note the multiple personalities use of “we”. I've never seen a young person become so unhinged so quickly.
Anglotino
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, unhinged, yes. I think that he is a very unhappy 20's Argentine, in denial, fighting the disillusionment he feels with his own country.
I would say that he frustrated that he has no means of control over his own destiny - and that will continue to be the case.
He has to kick out at somebody.
He does only superficial wikidemic research to promote his charges of Anglo ill-doing or inferiority. Digging too deep would inconveniently undermine his own position.
Notice that even as his assertions are disproven, he tenaciously clings to the propaganda that he finds reassuring, repeating it a little later on.
An amateur, he is the genuine frustrated article, I think.
Speaking of 'Think', despite what Elaine says, I believe that he IS paid to be on here.
With his education I'm sure he has the competence to have had a moderately successfully career, and yet there is anger and a palpable bitterness in everything he says, which suggests that he did not achieve what he thought he deserved.
He has ability and he is very prolific on MP, running many identities, not just the inane caricatures that we have identified so readily.
He spends a huge amount of time on here posting, as well as the required prep time for his constructs and time required for 'research googling' for his arguments and provocations.
This is punctuated with periods where his troll minions do not appear for short periods of time.
I think this is a full-time paid occupation for him, as reflected in his nearly constant presence.
A Professional Hater, notice that he is not swayed by our reasoning or counter- arguments, he just takes another approach.
In his own way, I'm sure he gets pleasure from his job, but like Toby, he too has a deep-rooted personal misery that he can do nothing about. It must poison everything he does.
:-D
Working on my car today and off to the car show tomorrow. That will be fun - a sunny day, some fine machinery, and chat over a beer with fellow enthusiasts.
Ta ta
Your Comment@ 140, El Capitano:
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, how's it going mate?
How old are you now? Yet still posting inert stuff on here, this forum about the Falkland Islands.
I take it you don't have a life then?
If I was even close to your age, I'd probably want to spend my time writing, or talking to my grandchildren etc, as opposed to following Mercopress Falkland Island stories.
How old were you exactly when you left Danmark?
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