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Argentina captures a Spanish vessel for presumed illegal fishing in the Argentine Sea.
The Argentine Coast Guard (the Prefectura) has captured a Spanish flagged vessel in waters of the Argentine Sea that was carrying out fishing activities presumed to be without authorisation, Coast Guard sources confirmed to EFE today. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWe had an interesting encounter off the stanton Banks once with a big Spaniard, who must have been sleeping, deaf, and blind.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was in the darkness, we were towing, and he was stemming us up doing about 11-12 knots, despite our calls on channel 16 - He only responded and threw her hard over to port after the distress flare fired by my Uncle out of the wheel house window - Hit his bridge window, - That woke the F***ers up!
Seriously, thats how close he was to sinking us. (we could not get out of his way as we had our gear in the water)
The Spanish might be able to get out of this one, as there is no such thing as the Argentine sea. LOL
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0The rest of the world calls it the South Atlantic.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0You recall the rest of the world don't you?
They are the ones who support everything that Argentina does. Well according to the Argentines they do!
How come all the vessels fishing illegally off Argentina seem to be the Argies mates taking their side on the Falklands?
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Takes a thief to know one?
Is it a cultural thing that the countries that support Argentina are similar to them in being rob dogs?
Why are there no comments to suggest the Spanish and Chinese ships caught plundering Argentina's resources are pirates?
The Argentines spend a lot of time accusing the UK /Falkland Islands of being imaginary pirates, while doing little to stop their best friends stealing their resources(for real).
On a positive note, would like to say how impressed I am to see the good ship Fique actually floats, is not in dry dock, does not appear to have broken down or been impounded by another country.
CONGRATULATIONS ARGENTINA THIS IS MOST IMPRESSIVE!
I salute you for having a functioning ship!
ps. Do we get an invite to the air display that will celebrate the Fique getting back to port safely?
Is this the
Including this news in the “Malvinas Islands” section of “FalklandPress” and not in “Argentina” section, may respond to some additional attempt to advance on our Argentine Sea of this spy agency....... perhaps.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spy agency? I have the telephone number of a Guardian journalist who would lurve to speak to you!
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 05 José Malvinero (#)
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jul 03rd, 2013 - 11:50 am
Ehemm!!!!
“Published in: Fisheries, Politics, Argentina, Falkland Islands.”
Read before making an idiot of yourself!!!!!!!!!
Would someone kindly give me some map coordinates to indicate where I might find the Argentine Sea? I have two atlases, one Spanish and the other British, and neither indicate any part of the oceans of the world with this name.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently it covers the Patagonian shelf.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about your Spanish and Chinese amigos stealing your resources?
All fines must be paid in $US.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 8;
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can find the 'Argentinian sea' here on this defaced web page.
LMAO.....
https://maps.google.fr/maps?q=falklands&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&ei=fB7UUf7-EMPRhAetpIDwCw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg
@2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Sea
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 The Prefectura is a spy agency?
@7 I don't think he can actually read.
@8
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bad link - Just look in google maps for Port Stanley..
@ Simon (7)
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jose makes an idiot out of himself, if he reads something or not.
This is funny.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the Spanish authorities have instructed their sizable fishing fleet to recover $10B in fish stocks from RG waters in compensation for YPF.
The RG coast guard would be overwhelmed.
As opposed to the usual state of the ARA?
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Underwhelmed.
@ 13 Conqueror
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who relies on Wikipedia for any reliable information?
So the Spanish were fishing for damp squid and found Argentines instead, how disappointing for them.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They need escape and evasion training. I know of a kind jet skier in Gibraltar who would be only to glad to advise them before they set off on anymore poaching expedition!
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Sources of the Coast Guard consulted by EFE said that the Spanish flagged vessel, named as the “Piscator”, belonged to the fishing company De Bon, based in Galicia, and its last port of call was Montevideo.”
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Piscator” - a typo
This will become known as the Spanish-Argentine “Pistaker” Incident
Lol.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 Dunno.
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.deepseawaters.com/Argentine_Sea.htm
http://www.deepseawaters.com/Argentine_Sea.htm
http://www.deepseawaters.com/Argentine_Sea.htm
http://www.deepseawaters.com/Argentine_Sea.htm
Satisfied?
@19 Do argies not understand that Spaniards can fish “anywhere”? As they are very keen on “environmental protection”, fishing in Spanish waters is very restricted. Because there aren't any fish. The Spanish don't pay much attention to “laws”. They reckon that other countries' “laws” don't apply to them. Much like argieland actually. Wonder how argieland likes its Spanish “brothers” paying no more attention to its laws than they pay to those of Gibraltar.
We don’t know what the Argies are complaining about,
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are doing no more and no less than Argentina does,
Everything belongs to them, and them only, is this not their thinking...
Spanish and Argies...birds of a feather...BUT..“The Argentine sea”....ahaaaaaaaaaaaa lmao...!!
Jul 03rd, 2013 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody seems to know
Jul 04th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0whether this was *caught fishing* within the Argentinian EEZ or outside it;
whether it was within the Falkland Islands EEZ or outside it.
Certainly the article above must be wrong -
'1,840 kilometres due south of Buenos Aires' puts the alleged offending vessel slap in the middle of the Falklands Island landmass!
So other questions arise:
Has the Piscador a fishing licence issued by TFI?
Might the fish have been caught in Falkland waters?
Was the coastguard vessel waiting at the common EEZ boundary to intercept the Piscator in its transit to (eg) Montevideo?
Glad to see the RGs doing something useful for a change, the Spaniards are well known for illegal fishing in the North & South Atlantic
Jul 04th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However it seems like the pot calling the kettle black since the RGs steal Repsol & the Spanish steal the fish stocks........birds of a feather methinks!!!
I wonder if the Spanish vessel has thought of this. If it dumps its nets in the right place, they might foul the propellers of the argie vessel. Then it can just sail away to Montevideo!
Jul 04th, 2013 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 - Conquerer
Jul 04th, 2013 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dunno, the Argentinian sea isn't listed at all.
http://listofseas.com/
http://listofseas.com/
http://listofseas.com/
So the Spanish might be able to get away with this due to the fact that there is no official recogonition of the 'made-up' Argentine sea.
Please check out the International borders research groups maps of the EEZs in the South Atlantic:
Jul 04th, 2013 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dur.ac.uk/resources/ibru/south_atlantic_maritime_claims.pdf
This makes 'politics-free' maps which can then be used to arbitrate disagreements.
In this instance the issues are:
i. Was the vessel caught actually fishing?
ii What were the lat/long co-ordinates? Law demands that these are logged
Mercopress confuses matters with contradictory locations ...
1. ' at the latitude of Comodoro Rivadavia'
... i.e Arg. EEZ or international waters
OR
2. '1,840 kilometres south of Buenos Aires'
... i.e. TFI EEZ
I have no truck with illegal fishing - and I know of many Spanish illegalities;
by the same token, I have no truck with harassment of legal fishing - and I know of many Arg. harassments.
Mercopress has a duty to present information to clarify these issues, or, in the absence of such information, to spotlight the weak points. It should not be necessary for readers to point out the inadequacies of the article (i & ii, 1 &2).
@12ED
Jul 04th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You can find the 'Argentinian sea' here on this defaced web page.”
The “Argentinian Sea ” was ceded to them by Atlantis.
@2
Jul 05th, 2013 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, you are wrong, probably your blind spite of Argentina being the cause:
http://www.deepseawaters.com/Argentine_Sea.htm
You see, it's just like the “English Channel”, yet no one makes a fuzz about it (even though in German and French it is not called this at all, but rather the “The Sleeve channel” literally... “La Manche” “Der Ärmel”, and in Spanish just La Mancha)
I would say getting a life is more paramount in your case if you get worked up about the fact that the waters covering the continental shelf (which is vast off the Argentine coast in particular), is called the Argentine Sea. It is very common convention to use this naming if there is land contiguity underwater, which certainly there is in this case.
http://www.deepseawaters.com/Argentine_Sea.htm
I see no problem with calling it the Argentine sea as long it does not imply jurisdiction.
Jul 05th, 2013 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0So a fucking bunch of Pirates were pursued and boarded by another fucking bunch of Pirates!!!!!!! Why the fuck is this news.
Jul 05th, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where is the 'Argentine Sea'? I can't find it on my globe or atlas!
Jul 06th, 2013 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0It must be another fictious place like 'Lost Malvinas'
35 downunder ----- They do like fairy story's in Argentina. I have notice that the grown up people who live in Argentina still believe in fairy story's!What other explanation is there in them thinking that the Falklands Islands belong to Argentina. Every one else in the world by the time they reach the age of six start to believe in grown up things. Every Argentine Government actively encourages them to believe in Fairy's and Goblins and mythical lands while the rest of the world looks on in utter amazement.
Jul 06th, 2013 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 036 Britishbulldog .....I agree. Also, the definition of a ”sea' (as opposed to 'ocean) is:
Jul 07th, 2013 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ A sea is part of an ocean that is partially surrounded by land. If it is totally surrounded, then it's called an inland sea.”
Given the shape of the Argetine coastline (baically a straight line) they cannot argue that any part of the south atlantic ocean adjacent to their coastline is partially surrounded by land and would; therefore, fit the definition of a sea.
But, as you say, Fairys, Goblins and myths.
The Argentines are at least inventive with their imagination-only they could invent a sea within what is surely the South Atlantic Ocean.
Jul 07th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However the Falklands could declare a Falklands sea around their islands.
38 Pete Bog.
Jul 08th, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0They should do just that, the Falklands have been around much longer than Argentina, so any declaration of a 'sea' should be called the 'Falkland Sea.'
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