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Falklands: Ambassador Castro renews sovereignty claims and blasts the US for spying
Argentine ambassador to the United Kingdom Alicia Castro renewed Argentina’s sovereignty claims over the Falkland Islands and put the Edward Snowden spy row on London’s table: “We are free nations that neither need nor want to be spied on,” Castro warned. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“Castro addressed an audience of politicians, diplomats, artists and intellectuals both Argentine and British”.... Ok then, lets see this carefully selected list of representatives who attended. I'm particularly interested to see what UK and European officials attended.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the territorial integrity of a continent”...wow thats a novel concept.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does “the territorial integrity of the continent” mean “oi your not Hispanic get out”. Racist.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“that we are free nations that neither need nor want to be spied on, watched and monitored,” Castro stated”
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like your buddies Syria (free?), Iran (free?) Cuba (free?) etc etc
Go ahead, keeping slagging off the yanks, this continued example of 'well considered' Argentine diplomacy is really going to get the USA on your side over the Falklands.
Keep up the good work.
What blessings in disguise are CFK, Timmerturd and Castro.
“...prompting the applause of a 500-member audience” I know this article is two articles off the Buenos Aires Herald cobbled together, but the original source is clearly Telam so I must assume its just pure propaganda.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank god for Malvinists and Argie politicos. They keep me laughing.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, Ha, Ha....So it's just the British that she sees as taking away the 'territorial integrity of the continent'....no mention of the Dutch or French in that statement or is her geography knowledge only limited to below the equator on her 'continent'.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0And since when has a group of islands 300 miles off the coast of a 'continent' ever been considered integral to that adjacent country or continent.
Who needs friends when you have enemies like that....two words she should look up the defenitions of:
1) Diplomat/ic
2)Integrity
She may learn something!
Castro - light entertainment maestro: keeping Brits and Islanders entertained for years.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0She deserves a BAFTA.
:-)
Dear Sra. Ambassador Castro
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We are free nations that neither need nor want to be spied on,”
Argentina Intelligence Services:
• President's Office
o Secretariat of Intelligence (SI)
National Intelligence School (ENI)
Directorate of Judicial Surveillance (DOJ)
Federal Counternarcotics Service (SEFECONAR)
Argentine National Gendarmerie Intelligence (SIGN)
• Ministry of Defense
o National Directorate of Strategic Military Intelligence (DNIEM)
• Ministry of Justice
o Federal Penitentiary Service Intelligence
o Airport Security Police Intelligence
• Ministry of Interior
o National Directorate of Criminal Intelligence (DNIC)
o Argentine Federal Police Intelligence
o Buenos Aires Police Intelligence (SIPBA)
o Argentine Naval Prefecture Intelligence (SIPN)
• Ministry of Economy
o Financial Intelligence Unit (UIF)
• Intelligence Department of the Joint General Staff of the Armed Forces (J-2)
o Military Intelligence Collection Center (CRIM)
o Army Intelligence Service (SIE)
o Naval Intelligence Service (SIN)
o Air Force Intelligence Service (SIFA)
Alicia, do any of these agencies operate overseas, or do you just spy on your own people?
Using expressions like “the territorial integrity of our continent” is hilarious for me, several thousand miles away, however I'd imagine that the laughter would be slightly hollow from Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay (seeing as it's most likely their countries that Argentina would like to add to their “territorial integrity” if they actually had the means to do it).
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9:
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice one.
From Diario Los Andes: Sanz, Montero, Albarracín, Thomas and De Marchi legislators claimed that intelligence agencies prick the telephones of Congress. They criticized Cristina by questioning CIA spying on his Government and use the same method in the country.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0”our region promotes democracy, dialogue among equals, multilateralism and the peaceful and negotiated resolution of conflicts,” she said
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0However the facts of Latin American peaceful democracy over the last 70 years show otherwise and is certainly not a model worth promoting Ms Castro.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Latin_America_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
I don't know if it is bad translation or if these RG Ministers don't actually know the meaning of some of the words they use.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are complete buffoons on the world stage.
“While the world debates on warmongering trends, invasions and armed military interventions, our region promotes democracy, dialogue among equals, multilateralism and the peaceful and negotiated resolution of conflicts,” she said“
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would be like your economic war against the Falkland Islands would it, slag-bitch? But you don't like ”dialogue“. Let's see Falkland Islanders fly more than 7,000 miles to ”dialogue“ with tinboy. And he runs away! ”Multilateralism“ means you talk to to anyone. Well, the only ”conflict“ in the South Atlantic arises from argieland's imperialist, colonialist ambitions. So why don't you ”peacefully” piss off?
It is clear that the people of the Falkland Islands do not want to be part of South America. They have a delusion that they somehow are closer geographically to Europe. What kind of rubbish is this? Why are these people not want to integrate into Latin America? This in itself is proof that they are an implanted population
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@16
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Read back what you have written and try to understand why it is complete and utter shit...
Latin (from italy, Spain and Portugal) America..Implanted..LOL
16 Livingthedream
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't tell me what I think.
''It is clear that the people of the Falkland Islands do not want to be part of South America.'' ??
No it isn't. The only thing that's clear is that we don't want to be part of Argentina.
If you want to know why, look no further than the phrase ''dialogue among equals,''. Oh, and 'implanted population'. If you want to treat us like inferior beings and call us names, go right ahead. It will get you precisely nowhere.
What a dumb hypocritical two faced lying female dog!
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“While the world debates on warmongering trends, invasions and armed military interventions, our region promotes democracy, dialogue among equals, multilateralism and the peaceful and negotiated resolution of conflicts,” she said
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0She seems to have forgotten 1982.
The illegal invasions by armed Argentinian troops of the Falklands and South Georgia.
That was hardly peaceful negotiation by Argentina.
As for dialogue, you have had multiple opportunities to speak with the Falkland Islanders in London and New York (UN). Yet it is Argentina who refuses to talk or negotiate.
Why haven't the British declared KFC's brainless parrot Persona non grata yet?
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trolleydolly: “While the world debates on warmongering trends, invasions and armed military interventions, our region promotes democracy, dialogue among equals, multilateralism and the peaceful and negotiated resolution of conflicts,”
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0hahahahahahaha
warmongering trends, invasions and armed military interventions - are they always a bad thing...ask Sierra Leone.
Argentina promotes democracy (except for Falklanders), dialogue among equals (except for Falklanders), multilateralism (except for Falklanders), and the peaceful (because our military is rubbish, but if sticks and masks can get the job done then let's fight) and negotiated resolution of conflicts (except we don't actually understand what the word negotiate means).
Trolleydolly: “ our continent and the possession of our natural resources” - how exactly did you get them? Peaceful negotiation?
I can understand that the Falklanders cannot touch diplomats, but there must be some of their supporters that can either be hit with libel, slander, or even charged with hate crimes for spreading their BS?
It would be poetic justice for some of Argentina's quisling supporters to end up homeless through trying to get the Falklanders home taken off them.
Come on FIG! Open the war chest and drag them into court!
@16 Maybe the Falkland Islanders don't want to be part of South America but, instead, regard themselves as part of the South Atlantic together with St Helena and Tristan Da Cunha
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where does that leave your flawed argument?
Been on my hols in sunny Kerry. Get home log into Mercopress and what do I find? The same old crap from the same old idiot Argies both government and trolls.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think I'll go back to Dingle!!!
24 wish I was their too might get a decent pint of Smithicks
Jul 11th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is becoming clear that Argentina have no real interest in the Falklands except to distract its own indoctrinated population and to be seen to say something on the world stage unfortunately for her the Falklands people have awoken and are now blowing holes in the propaganda .... I can't wait for August when her self goes to the UN will she tell great big whoppers or will she tell lots of little ones and hope no one will challenge her in the end it will be the same old same old because that's what she needs lots of noise no substance.
Typical self serving politician not interested in actually doing anything just be seen to do it .... You can only get away with it for a while but one day we are all held to account and I don't mean in the next world.
9. Perhaps it should be noticed that SA nations want Snowden not for humanitarian or propaganda purposes but rather for training their own snoops.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#16 idiot, where you you derive at the premise that the Falklanders feel physically closer to Europe than SA? Are you an asshole or a dickhead?
Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would anyone advanced civilization want to to integrate into a primitive culture and society like argentina that is trapped in the past, with a government that embraces and prefers poverty as opposed to creating independence and wealth for it's citizens?
As for implanting populations.....I'm North American and well aware that the entire new world is an implanted population save for the indigeneous people that were mostly killed off in the past, with the exception of SA that are still killing them off. Get over the fact that this will not change in NA, SA ...nor the Falklands. We are and will remain who we are today and tomorrow and for years to come.
@16 Aaaah, dear. Failing latino “economies”. Lack of “democracy”. Lack of “freedom”. This is why LatAm is crap. And why the prosperous Falkland Islanders don't want to involve themselves with the shit of the world!
Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 026 GFace
Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But first they would have to buy some serious IT equipment because I don't think thay have much in The Dark Country.
Haw haw haw.... You just cant make this shit up only growth industry in Arjuntina..“Buffoonery”...!
Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do as I say and not as I do...what a load of shite, once again poor Alicia is showing her non-diplomatic skills and is still waiting to see if her work as a 'trolly dolly' is available when she gets the sack by the next administration.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Livingthedream
Jul 11th, 2013 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's clear that you know nothing about the Falklands. Argentina are the ones putting a wedge in us creating closer relations with South America.
The Falkland Islands is part of South America as Greenland is part of North America! The notion that it's part of some make believe South Atlantic dream territory is pure rubbish
Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has anybody noticed that all her public announcements are now done from within the embassy?
Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps paying up front for the Dorchester, et al, bankrupts the petty cash!
@33
Jul 11th, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't recall anybody claiming that Greenland should have no links to Europe, and should belong to whoever's closest on the North American continent.
How much longer can the Court of St James put up with the lack of diplomacy shown by this very silly woman? If her counterpart in Buenos Aires, the British Ambassador, were to behave continuously in such a provocative manner then his recall would have been requested by la Kretina.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0¡Que vaca más ignorante! Deben enviarla a la India ¡donde las vacas son sagradas!
33 Livingthedream (#)
Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:47 pm
There are probably nearly 60.000 Greenlanders who might well disagree with you about Greenland being part of the American continent!!!!!!!
Of course the Falkland Islands are seperate from the South American continent, they are about 400 Km from it and are much closer culturally and politically to the other BOT's in the South Atlantic!!!!!!
#33
Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Proximity of an island does not make anything definitively *part of* anything else.
Is New Zealand part of Australia?
Australia part of Asia?
Iceland part of Europe?
TFI part of South America?
etc
They have associations, friendships, associations of convenience, but
-unless they want it or are coerced into it - they are not *part of* anything (even though the map-makers try to convince us they are!).
@37 Geographically Greenland IS part of North America. But so freakin' what. But like the Falklands it is associated with Denmark and Europe (as opposed to say, Canada) because its people want it that way. Same for French Guinea (who you say?) Fascists who want necks, any necks, to step on just don't get it.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth do you mean you don't need spying on.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You remember invading us right?
As for renewing Argentina's claim... We know. No need to mention it again, we shall just assume it to be the case unless we hear otherwise.
We are ever, ever so sorry and promise (fingers cossed behind the back) that we will never ever, ever do it again.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Much!!!!!!!!
'Towards a comprehensive policy Malvinas Argentina
Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In recent years, Argentina is changing its policy regarding Malvinas. The joint dynamics of the fields of law, politics, science and defense is key to moving forward on the claim of sovereignty....'
http://www.sinmordaza.com/noticia/182199-hacia-una-politica-integral-argentina-por-malvinas.html
'In Uruguay agree that Malvinas is “regional cause”'
http://www.sinmordaza.com/noticia/182199-hacia-una-politica-integral-argentina-por-malvinas.html
'The Government of the United States: historical leader of international terrorism - Since the United States descendant of England's understandable that inherit the imperialist nature of their motherland. A character so imperialist United States being only a group of British colonies went on the attack in order to invade the American colonies of France. The fact that a group of colonies to meet and, on their own and against orders of his government oppressor, from engaging in a war of invasion against other colonies, is a fact hard to find in the history of humanity, a fact that other was a clear reminder of what this country is expected to account in the future....'
http://www.sinmordaza.com/noticia/182199-hacia-una-politica-integral-argentina-por-malvinas.html
'The motherland - A piece of this that, at some point, Argentines considered as “motherland” is Galician fishing aboard Piscator. But, like most children - wanted or not - Argentina seeks experienced lecturing their parents - also desired or not -. And with oil interests in the Falklands and Galician vessels used today Islands license held by the United Kingdom, the best way to pressure the children of Great Britain is to attack those they see as a good lever to make the Union give European response to their demands for sovereignty over some islands that, in addition to fishing and sheep and sheep, has oil in the subsoil. The EU, however, is silent and his silence Buenos Aires at night...'
http://www.sinmordaza.com/noticia/182199-hacia-una-politica-integral-argentina-por-malvinas.html
@33 Ain't that just the beauty of self determination!
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can be what YOU want to be - not what others want to impose on you.
Thanks for the nice open goal!
What do indoctrinated brain dead controlled freaks say=
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Renew, Argentina’s sovereignty claims over the Falkland Islands and put the Edward Snowden spy row on London’s table: “We are free nations that neither need nor want to be spied on
What do indigent free people say in return=
Get lost..
boy she looks more uglier than her barbie doll.
What a cheek she has. Residing in safety and comfort in Great Britain and comes up with this load of rubbish. Sorry, these islands are British territory. Despite your aggression and constant whingeing you won't get them, and Argentina is failing on all fronts by its unfriendly actions. You are making your country an international pariah, excluded and a laughing stock. It's back to 33 rpm for you.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I've said before, this woman is an absolute twat!!! Territorial integrity is a non-starter. The Falklands were occupied by GB long before Patagonia was a part of Argentina. Argentina only took over Patagonia after the Treaty signed with Chile towards the end of the 19th century
Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she really does need to get herself a boyfriend.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 047 Pirate Love
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ohhh! What a thought, TMBOA having it off with some poor sod.
you willing to take one for the team? :))
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0500 people in the rg embassy in London? I would like to see that...
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 033 Livingthedream (#)....Just where do these Arjuntinians get their education..?The same old regurgitated shit from them yada yada yada...When did iether the US or Canada claim Greenland as part of their teritory..?Indeed Greeland maintains strong links with Denmark.( Yup Denmark is in Europe.) I must point out to this “Dreamer”..the islands of “St Pierre/Miquelon” are in the gulf of St Lawrence completely surrounded by Canada yet are a self governing territory of France.The islanders have a great relationship with Canada and visit back and forth yet its thier CHOICE to manitain their links with France and this seems to be acceptable to all concerned.Some very similar history ie...Falkland Isls/St Pierre/Miquelon...Indeed in the early 20th century American senator Henry Cabot Lodge actually advocated the annexation of these Islands to curb French influence...Yes I know...its laughable now but sure sounds familiar when one considers the hysterical Arjuntinian claims over the Falklands.Try reading a little history,“Dreamer”..ohh and most important of all TRY and UNDERSTAND history...!!
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Capitano...that is something I mention all the time...doesn't seem to sink it.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9geoff
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geoff
A master stroke. Brilliant!!
33 Livingthedream
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares? South America is a continent, not a political entity. It doesn't help your case any whether we say we are part of South America or not.
You'd think she'd learn shut the fook up and you might have the chance of a better life. No maybe not your ginger and an rg oh well shit happens some people are born unlucky
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jul 12th, 2013 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice one Geoff.
@16
“They have a delusion that they somehow are closer geographically to Europe.”
They know exactly where they are geographically.
“ Why are these people not want to integrate into Latin America?”
No, they don't want to be colonised by Imperialist Argentina who are so badly governed that no one in their right mind would wish to be Argentine(except for Argentinians).
“This in itself is proof that they are an implanted population”
The fact that most of South America speaks Spanish and Portuguese,(you may not realise this LTD, they are European languages), is proof that South America is mostly implanted (admittedly 'Cowpat' isn't).
@15 Thanks for being so nice to Timmerturd (I meant Timerman, honest guv).
@23
The Argies don't realise there is a a loosely connected chain of British Islands all the way to Bermuda-and they still haven't worked out that these island s aren't connected to any mainland.
@29
Like the Sinclair ZX Spectrum?
@31
”still waiting to see if her work as a 'trolly dolly' is available when she gets the sack by the next administration.2
This is assured in the future for Maximo when mummy cashes in her foreign hoard to buy him a C17 (so he can squeeze in through the rear door)-Castro will service Maximo, not so much the showing the oxygen masks and lifejackets bit, but operating the conveyer belt from the automatic pie loader into his gaping mouth,(got a mental picture of that)?
@33 “some make believe South Atlantic dream territory”
What like the fictitious state of Malvinas in Mendoza?
You'll find if, you, look, very, carefully, and slowly, at, a map that The Falklands Islands, South Georgia, Gough Island, Tristan da Cunha, St Helena and Ascension Island really do exist in the South Atlantic. Seriously LTD, I'm not imagining this.
@47
“she really does need to get herself a boyfriend.”
Maximo?
@51 El capitano:
Jul 12th, 2013 - 05:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tell us about yourself again??
How old are you supposed to be?
What was it your mate 'think' said about ye??
Pure 419 ya c**t.
16 Livingthedream
Jul 12th, 2013 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Why are these people not want to integrate into Latin America?”
What the hell? have you been asleep. The Falkland Islanders WANT to be part of South America.... They just don't want to be ruled over by some power mad, land grabbing Argentinian.... I take it that you do not read the News much then? If you did, you would know that Chile regularly has exchange visits with the Islands.
As for the Falkland Islanders being an “implanted” population... we know they are you idiot!! The Islands were uninhabited when they arrived you t-wat!!! get it? there was no one else there at the time...
If we are going to talk about “implanted” populations.. remind me of where the population of Argentina came from.... and why it is they all speak spanish and please, please, please tell me how many of original tribes in Argentina you lot slaughtered? Genocide is something that the Islanders are NOT GUILTY of
I never said FI should be part of Argentina. I said they should accept they are part of South America not some fantasy place in South Atlantic.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here in the States we are North American but we didn't want to be part of Canada but we still accept we are in North America
Just reading the article and the comments of the “Mali's” makes me realize that although we recognize, at least on here, that the trolls are what they are the RG's so called ambassador to the UK is just as bad. As has been said in this thread, and I have said before, should she keep up this 'behavior' it will not be long before she is declared 'persona non gratis'. Ambassadors' are supposed to project their country's image in a dignified and professionally diplomatic manner. This ex 'trolley dolly' is, in my opinion, 'in way over her head'.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 059 Livingthedream
Jul 12th, 2013 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Close but no cigar, according to your logic Greenland is also part of North America. They are no more or less implanted than any other population, to quote an unrecognizable expression in legal terms. The simply want to exercise their legal right of self-determination, and have no desire to be colonized by Argentina.
International law's view of claims based on proximity.
Under the Palmas decision, three important rules for resolving island territorial disputes were decided:
Firstly, title based on contiguity has no standing in international law.
The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine...
By Roberto C. Laver p.74
International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,”
@59 Like a lot, not all, of Americans, you have a problem with reality. Let's direct your attention to http://en.mercopress.com/2013/07/12/with-guyana-and-suriname-all-south-american-countries-are-mercosur-associates
Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you should note that ALL south american countries are now mercosur members or associates. You can read the article. Amongst other things it says “All countries of South America are Mercosur associates now”, underlined the foreign ministers from Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Venezuela in a joint release“. Are the Falkland Islands part of this dictatorship? They are not. Argieland has finally admitted that the Falkland Islands are NOT part of South America. So they can't be part of some argie province. Then stretch your ”mind“ to the FACTS described by Terence Hill.
A few additional thoughts. We know that there are ”neo-nazis“ in the U.S. You are obviously one of them. I look at you saying ”The Falkland Islands is part of South America as Greenland is part of North America!“ and wonder at your intelligence. Greenland is an autonomous country within the Kingdom of Denmark. Even if Greenland is ”physiographically a part of the continent of North America”, I haven't noticed Canada or the United States trying to claim it. Like any sensible, intelligent people, they can recognise that, in a similar time frame to that of the Falkland Islands, Greenland has been Norse or Danish. Do we see the U.S. or Canada running to the UN every 5 minutes demanding sovereignty over Greenland? We do not. What sort of psychosis do argies, and you, suffer from? Magpie syndrome? Kleptomania? Mental retardation? Narcissistic personality disorder?
Could you sit down quietly for a few years and try to drag yourself into the 19th century? Once you see the positive aspects, and a few more years, you might get to the 20th century. Avoid the 1920s, 30s and 40s. Filled with argie look-alikes and American cowardice. Don't bother with 21st century. It's beyond you!
@59 living the dream
Jul 12th, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I said they should accept they are part of South America not some fantasy place in South Atlantic.”
I'd like to ask a hypothetical question. Supposing the people of the Falkland Islands followed your suggestion, and accepted they are part of South America.
What kind of behavior would they exhibit to satisfy you that they are indeed, and sincerely, acting like they are part of South America?
To demonstrate that they think, and truthfully accept that, they are part of South America, what should the Falkland Islanders be doing?
#63
Jul 12th, 2013 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Patently, they should promote Venezuela's agenda within Mercosur.
OMG.....lol. SO to be south american and show it one needs to promote communism?
Jul 12th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'“In a complex world, with more reason we must be united the peoples of South America” - Governor of Santa Fe, Antonio Bonfatti, participated in Uruguay, with the President of Uruguay, José Mujica, the closing of the meeting of the Forum of Municipalities and Provinces of Mercosur, where he spoke on behalf of the delegation Argentina. The president took stock of what deliberate, thanked “on behalf of all Argentines” support “of the countries of Latin America in the last Decolonization Committee of the United Nations, on the Falklands” and expressed “vehement rejection ”to what happened in Europe with the president of Bolivia, Evo Morales...'
Jul 12th, 2013 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.agenciafe.com/noticias/val/206557-6/%E2%80%9Cen-un-mundo-tan-complejo-con-m%C3%A1s-raz%C3%B3n-tenemos-que-estar-unidos-los-pueblos-de-am%C3%A9rica-del-sur%E2%80%9D.html
'Vital unit prepare for Falklands - Soldiers at a Moray base are preparing for a training mission in the Falkland Islands to ensure they are geared up to support the RAF on operations...'
http://www.agenciafe.com/noticias/val/206557-6/%E2%80%9Cen-un-mundo-tan-complejo-con-m%C3%A1s-raz%C3%B3n-tenemos-que-estar-unidos-los-pueblos-de-am%C3%A9rica-del-sur%E2%80%9D.html
'Mercosur, Unasur and indecision of Brazil'
http://www.agenciafe.com/noticias/val/206557-6/%E2%80%9Cen-un-mundo-tan-complejo-con-m%C3%A1s-raz%C3%B3n-tenemos-que-estar-unidos-los-pueblos-de-am%C3%A9rica-del-sur%E2%80%9D.htmlo/2013/07/mercosur-unasur-y-la-indecision-del.html
Mexico is part of North America, and no one is asking them to be a little Canada.
Jul 13th, 2013 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Mercosur Argentina reiterates support for Malvinas -
Jul 13th, 2013 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The member countries reaffirmed the terms of the “Declaration of the Presidents of the States Parties of MERCOSUR, the Republic of Bolivia and the Republic of Chile”, signed on June 25, 1996 in Potrero de los Funes.
This is called Malvinas Declaration and reiterated their support for the legitimate rights of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute relating to the “Question of the Falkland Islands”. They stressed that unilateral action is not consistent with what was agreed at the United Nations and regional interest recalled the protracted dispute between Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding maritime areas, scope, the sooner a solution in accordance with the relevant resolutions of the United Nations and the statements of the Organization of American States, the MERCOSUR, UNASUR and other regional and multilateral fora.
They reaffirmed that the military presence and the military exercises, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding maritime areas is contrary to the policy of the region attachment to finding a peaceful solution to the sovereignty dispute and reiterated their rejection of British unilateral development of activities that include, among others, the exploitation of natural resources renewable and nonrenewable the area in dispute. In this regard, they recognized the right belonging to Argentina to take legal actions implemented in the scope of their legislation against the exploration and exploitation of hydrocarbons unauthorized in that area...'
http://espanol.upi.com/Politica/2013/07/13/Mercosur-reitera-respaldo-a-Argentina-por-Malvinas/UPI-95561373696460/
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Jul 13th, 2013 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0'their support for the legitimate rights of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute relating to the “Question of the Falkland Islands”
The above statement confirms the legitimacy of the UK's title, as in international law Argentina has no legitimate claim. If it was otherwise, Argentina simply has to make a motion to the UNGA asking them to submit the issue to the ICJ for a legal opinion.
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Jul 13th, 2013 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Mercosur, Unasur and indecision of Brazil'
www.argenpress.info/2013/07/mercosur-unasur-y-la-indecision-del.html
It's just that different countries mature polically at different rates.
I remember, when I was young, leaving the little children playing their little children games to go off and join the players in the 'top class'.
You are probably correct geoff. I suppose that is why the world see's latam president's as actor's in a daytime soap. “As the LATAM world turns”
Jul 13th, 2013 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well said both Castro and Timmerman, potential presidents both =) As for Snowden, if he hasn't applied for asylum in Argentina, maybe he should consider it; Timmerman's statements strike me as less negative than many even from usual opponents of the US about this. Obama really has turned the screws on this one in a way that would make Bush proud! But Cristina isn't someone to be bullied (and a show of independence and steadfastness nmight even play well in October's elections!)
Jul 19th, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman is Kirchner's stupid turnip jewboy running her meaningless tasks. He is paid with bread, tomatos and toilet paper. The hardest part or training him was making him accept Jesus as his lord and Savior. He broke when we sat him in the kitchen......he still believes there was a holocaust. Fecking turnip.
Jul 20th, 2013 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@72
Jul 20th, 2013 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”both Castro and Timmerman, potential presidents both =) ”
Hope they'll make it, the best chance that the Falkland Islanders will never be Argentine.
The political fall out from any of these clowns becoming president, will affect Argentina's economy for at least 30 years, even if a succeeding administration has the brains to talk to the FIG. The damage done by Timmerturd or Castro, will exclude Argentina from valuable trade/ supplying goods/services with the Falkland Islands.
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