MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Summit in Montevideo could further expose the fragility of a Mercosur turned political
President-elect Horacio Cartes will not make any comments on the ongoing dispute of Paraguay with Mercosur until after the group’s summit in Uruguay next Friday, when official decisions on the subject are expected to be made public. However for both sides any decision will most probably be challenging and ratify that Mercosur has become a political group far from its original trade and investment purposes. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCristina and Maduro could learn a thing or two about how to appear dignified in their office by learning from Cartes.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0The continent's newest president is acting as one of the most mature and statesmanlike.
Venezuela has to be ejected. Its “incorporation” was illegitimate. Failing that, Paraguay must remain separate. Revealing the illegitimacy of mercosur. And the world must support Paraguay. By refusing to deal with illegitimate mercosur.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0As you all know I have always supported Paraguay . Now I am even more supportive . The country is behaving in a mature , educated and noble manner , so unlike its neighbours .
Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or else what?
Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As much as I like Paraguay, Mercosur is better off without a member that constantly airs the views of its oligarchy. Not even their elected President could put forward his ideas, those where blocked by the Paraguayan senate. Why should Whole of Mercosur do what those 3 parasites wants, when not even their, back then, legally elected President has a word?
And besides, Paraguay is not really a heavyweight in the neigbourhood, and I'd love to see their move when Mercosur calls their raise...
:)
Stevie
Jul 11th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their “Oligarchy”?
The only Oligarchy seems to be Argentina,Venezuela, and Uruguay.
According to you, Paraguay must submit to following meekly, not behave as a full partner, and not speak out on issues that affect them and their sovereignty and Independence.
What next?
How about the PA.
Mercosur is a dead man walking. Let it die a dignified death.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paraguay needs to fully align with the Pacific Alliance and let the USA keep increasing their air-base. They need to be able to protect themselves from the aggressive Rgs trying to steal their electricity.
TWIMC
Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Article title reads:
“Summit in Montevideo could further expose the fragility of a Mercosur turned political”
I say:
When did Mercosur “TURNED political” ?
It has been POLITICAL since birth !
SOUTHERN COMMON MARKET AGREEMENT (1991)
Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay, hereinafter referred to as the “States Parties”
CONSIDERING
that the expansion of their domestic markets, through integration, is a vital prerequisite for accelerating their processes of economic development with social justice
BELIEVING
that this objective must be achieved by making optimum use of available resources, preserving the environment, improving physical links, coordinating macroeconomic policies and ensuring complementarily between the different sectors of the economy, based on the principles of gradualism, flexibility and balance
BEARING IN MIND
international trends, particularly the integration of large economic areas. and the importance of securing their countries a proper place in the international economy
BELIEVING
that this integration process is an appropriate response to such trends
AWARE
that this Treaty must be viewed as a further step in efforts gradually to bring about Latin American integration, in keeping with the objectives of the Montevideo Treaty in 1980
CONVINCED
of the need to promote the scientific and technological development of the States Parties and to modernize their economies in order to expand the supply and improve the quality of available goods and services, with a view to enhancing the living conditions of their populations
REAFFIRMING
their political will to lay the bases for increasingly close ties betwen their peoples, with a view to achieving the above-mentioned objectives,
HEREBY AGREE AS FOLLOWS…
http://www.worldtradelaw.net/fta/agreements/mercosurfta.pdf
PS:
Paraguay, through their elected representants, will in the coming months quitely reintegrate into the Ñemby Ñemuha structure.
As sure as AMEN in church, when the prayer's over.
4 Stevie (#)
Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:35 pm
“... Paraguay is not really a heavyweight in the neigbourhood... ”
That is a strange comment from one who predicates South American unity!!!!!!
Paraguay has twice the population of “your” country and not a great deal less GDP (PPP) and now that it has increased its production of both meat and soy it may even pass you by!!!!!
Also it has a pretty bright future on the hydrocarbons front, so don't sneer at Paraguay, the Pacific Alliance's gain may well be Mercosur's BIG loss!!!!!!
@4 What do you think of the Kirchner oligarchy running Argentina? It is the very definition of an oligarchy.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 Stevie . Great comments from somebody who espouses liberal causes . In particular I like the oligarchy part . So very liberal . Also do you have to be a heavyweight to be heard ? Hardly liberal .
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 07 .Think . Good to read again the Mercosur treaty . To think that it was signed in good faith . Of course , that was before Chavez , Morales , Correa and company .
Those remind me of the rules from Animal Farm.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Lofty platitudes that have no meaning now
7@ All you mention is referred to economy policies between those countries, nothing about political policies between them......That was the spirit and soul of the Mercosur.....transformed for bad by the leftist leaders that take the power on those countries......
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paraguay will grow almost 13% this year, has big expectation on oil & electricity, meat & soy and the most important is it has a good elected Gvt. that will carry it to best development comparised with the other Mercosur members (including the illegal Venezuela)......
Paraguayan future is with the PA, were the goal is the economic growth for a better level of life for their people, not the enrichment of their “ leftist olligarchy nomenklatura” that has became into a dictatorship way of government.....
We predict-Mercosur
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will collapse
Its just a matter of time..
Elaine you will make little stevies head explode calling kirchner an oligarchist. He cannot conceive in the concept that kirchnerites are the wealthy ruling class of argentina, or course, from stealing, but no less the wealthy ruling class.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite. But it is the truth.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 013 and 14 . Stevie must be feeling down ! Kirchners oligarchs !!
Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troy
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If it would be so easy for Paraguay to leave Mercosur, and especially the trade agreement with Brasil, they would already have done so. There is a reality you obviously fail to appreciate.
Simon
Uruguay is an even smaller fish in the pond, a fact that doesn't make Paraguay a big fish anyhow.
Baxter
If you intend to come along flexing your muscles, yes, you have to be a heavyweight. Be it in trade, military, politics, sports or culture.
What the Paraguayan senate has been doing for years, blocking Venezuela from joining, even when their elected President, the one to represent the people and their wishes, wanted elsewise, does just not fit in my liberal views.
Elaine
Is she rich? Yes, indeed.
Does she belong to the ruling elite? No, not at all.
Is she working towards an equal society or just a new ruling class? I don't know.
#16 That is why kirchner embraces poverty with handouts and the handouts are outragous, rather than providing opportunities for independence and personal growth. If they are poor and dependent, she remains in power......period.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course she belongs to the ruling elite. She rules, as did her husband, and her unelected son, and her sister-in-law. She has placed all her family and pals in power and set about changing the rules to ensure she and her chosen ones remain in power. How much more elitist can she be?
Jul 12th, 2013 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Equal society? No, she keeps the poor, poor and dependent on her benevolence.
Elaine
Jul 12th, 2013 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your lack of respect for the common voter in Argentina is distasteful. Cristina didn't put Nestor in the Presidency, the people did. The same people that put Cristina in power.
And next time a President is to be chosen in Argentina, the people will choose the one of their liking.
You say she keeps the poor poor. Why now? What did the governments prior to 2003 do for the poor in order to improve their lives, you say?
And you deny the improvements made since 2003? Well, be my guest, fool yourself.
Do you actually understand the term oligarchy?
Jul 12th, 2013 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 13 Briton: Not before European Union.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie, you seem to have a rather strange view of what democracy really is!!!!!
Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The representatives of the people's political will are the LEGISLATORS that they vote for, not the President whos is only the leader of the State. It is quite possible to have a parliament (congress) whose politics does not agree with the President's as was obviously the case in Paraguay when Congress impeached Lugo with such a huge majority!!!!!!!
Simon some people to not understand that the President is really only the administrator of the government and the real power is in the congress. I personally do not agree that both houses of congress and the executive branch should be controlled by one party, it's a recipe for real unbridled power. However on the other hand, as in the US.....congress is polarized and at extremes and both parties refuse to compromise and negotiate as they use to. For some odd reason, compromise today is being seen as weak in your principles.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 024 Captain Poppy (#)
Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:46 pm
The problem is the “progressives” who only believe in populist governments, Obama is a wannabe progressive!!!!!!!
Yes agreed....I am not too impressed with him.....in fact the choices of the 2000's thus far have not been all the good. Lately the choosing has come down to picking the lesser of two whom will do the least damage.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 022 Fred
Jul 12th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you may well be right..
Simon progressives in the USA want to do too much too fast for too many and that costs money. It's one thing do tax, for lack of a better words.....“haves” ( I think the self sufficient might be better) to assist the “have nots” (government dependence). However, we here in the USA resent them having assistance for the rest of their lives. We feel they should be making quantifiable progress toward self sufficiency and independence. Government should not be parents to citizens and support them forever. I am all for building bridges, schools and roads and creating healthcare..........the handouts forever are too much. In Massachusetts, someone on welfare can get their rent paid, heat and electricity, food stamps, healthcare and a gas subsidy. Figuring a typical rent $1,000, electric, $75, heat in the winter-$200, groceries-$600, and a cash payout of $600 a month and health insurance$400, that's $2,875 a month.....$34,500 a year. Compare that to someone working and paying taxes @25% that is $46,000 a year to do noth. Someone that earns that working can't get anything yet we give it away until they die. I loath government handouts.
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