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Mercosur blasts EU countries over Morales incident and condemn US electronic surveillance

Saturday, July 13th 2013 - 13:34 UTC
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Mercosur leaders agreed on Friday to call home for consultation their ambassadors to Spain, France, Italy and Portugal to protest last week's forced diversion of the Bolivian president's aircraft. They also strongly defended their right to offer asylum Friday, venting anger at claims of US spying in the region while intelligence leaker Edward Snowden's fate hangs in the balance. Read full article

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  • Conqueror

    What a bunch of dumb clucks! The “mercosur” countries need to explain their justification for offering asylum to a criminal. Grounds for asylum include persecution on account of race, nationality, religion, political opinions and membership and/or participation in any particular social group or social activities. “Criminal” is now a social group or activity, is it? We know about Russia, but we can now include Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela in the “criminal” category. Along with argieland, Iran, North Korea, Syria. A pretty unsavoury bunch all round!

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    I think the US would quite like him to go to Nicaragua.
    A navy seal team could easily snatch him from there.

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Delta Force........they never get any credit...lol But then they are not as Hollywood as SEALS.

    If the USA wanted one of the faux presidents dead.......they would be cleaning the walls of gray brain matter.

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    “It is fundamental to ensure that the right of asylees to travel safely to the country granting asylum be guaranteed,”

    So once a person is granted political asylum, they then have the right to travel to that country from anywhere in the world, crossing any country in the process.

    You couldn’t make this shit up!!

    The fact some S American countries have offered him asylum does not mean he stops being a criminal to the US, or that they have to stop trying to catch him, by whatever means.

    What exactly are they going to do about being spied on (apart from passing resolutions saying its illegal), when it took a defector to tell them they were being spied on in the first place, they apparently had no idea.

    And of course absolutely do not “monitor” their own citizens in any way whatsoever, and certainly don’t use any “foreign systems” to do it.

    Still no clarification of exactly which precept of international has been so flagrantly violated, are we supposed to just take their word for it.

    ”misunderstanding.” Looks to be about all the explanation there are going to get, or frankly deserve on this showing.

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @3 Chuck Norris played a member of Delta Force in a movie, ergo Delta Force Rocks.

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mastershake

    that picture is hilarious

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #5
    Delta force rocks but Seals swim ! I mentioned the SEALS because any insertion into Nicaragua would have to be sea borne so as not to compromise Costa Rica. I would not imagine that Honduras would willingly allow their country to be brought into the political flak.

    The Seals used to exercise at the NATO base in Machrihanish in W. Scotland.
    Part of their training was to come towards the base doing a halo insertion from a C-130 and swim ashore from about 3 miles out and infiltrate the airfield.
    I can remember hearing that some of the teams had to be rescued because of hypothermia swimming in benevolent Scottish waters. Seemingly the super-fit muscular types succumb the quickest to hypothermia - no danger to me then !

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Dave204

    Love the Adams Family portrait accompanying the article

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    GFace......ex Army so I am a little biased.....lol Biggest thing about Delta is no one knows what they are doing unless you are doing it. I take nothing away from a SEAL......I mean......I've read many of their interviews and books and see them on the news interviews. To bad Delta doesn't get so much press......then again, maybe they are not allowed to be so public.....but then again the US Army and government does not acknowledge Delta Force, aka 1st SF.....I guess to a civilian.....Green Beret. Either way what anyone thinks........I wouldn't want either group hunting my ass.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Love the family photograph! Looks a police line up!

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Are the family waving benevolently or about to produce a Nazi salute?

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    Now here is a subject where I can agree with Argentina and the rest of S.A. closing the airspace was blatantly illegal,as for Snowden being a criminal there are plenty of political refugees in Europe who are regarded by their regimes as criminals,its in the eye of the beholder.
    And let us not forget that what the U.S.is doing is unlawful in Brazil,Germany and everywhere else.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #12 please point to the laws and conventions on spying? It is a practice that has been going on long defore the new world was around......again....the laws and rules on spying?

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Dave204

    @14

    How very droll...did you eat paint chips as a child?

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yes of course dumburger......collecting data is far worse than argentina using the federal police to go undercover and spy on news organizations that criticize the government......yup terrorist in one hand and media critiquing the government........mmmmmmm. Wasn;t that spy chief killed last year in Patagonia?

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Audi Consilium

    13 Captain Poppy (#)
    #12 please point to the laws and conventions on spying?

    Good evening CP :) that made me smile There is only one piece of legislation if would call it that, in relation to spying, it is

    The 11th Commandment - 'Don't get caught'

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Bingo.......lol

    Seems the SA trolls can accept venezuela spying in their critics and publicize private private phone calls on national TV between two citizens, or argentina using the federal police to go under to spy on the media that criticizes kirchnerites, but spying in search of terrorists is forbidden.
    Still looking for the international law that forbides spying dumburger?

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    They are making a mountain out of a mole hill,
    and it could cost them lots of money and trade,

    Still,
    as most of them have broke international law themselves in the past,,
    they have nothing to complain about have they,,

    Still 2
    They could always hold the spy hostage..lol.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @14 So I reported you for your gibberish. Try English. That educated prople use.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    What makes you think he is educated,,,,,

    indocrinated mybe lol..

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Talking of spying., are the Rgs still spying on food shops?

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    no but they are spying on the media and protestors. They actually had federal cops go undercover posing as journalist.

    spy in search of terrorists or spy on political opponents?

    Jul 15th, 2013 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Baxter

    Actually we have to be fair ! Germany's Angela Merkel also screamed and shouted on US espionage . Now we know , The Telegraph today , that her intelligence services not only knew this but may have helped !

    Jul 15th, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    With spies like us,

    who needs the enemey . ha ha ha .

    Jul 15th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It's public posturing....until they too are caught. And even when you are caught.......Deny, Deflect and Divert.

    Jul 15th, 2013 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    If anything gets my back up in SA it's the sight of these twats performing like a bunch of circus animals, but that is disrespectful to the animals:

    The Cowpat: wishes he had the same fan base as Amelia Earhart still does. I just wish he had gone the same way.

    The 60 YO two Yuan whore TMBOA herself; just what can one say about her that has not already been said?

    The 'WTF day is it Pepe', our soon to be gone President.

    Dilma the President who showed so much promise but like all promises the politicos of SA promise, it never quite works out. Shame that, I thought she could have made it.

    And last but most certainly not least The Bus Driver: little bird keeper and all out dopey fucker.

    What can I say except: FFS!

    Jul 15th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • troyfreefly

    I'm an American Boomer and a patriot. In the wake of 9-11 I watched with disgust as Bush and Cheney dismantled the Constitution, created Homeland Security and its goons, empowered the NSA and then attacked and and invaded a sovereign nation without provocation. I voted for Obama hoping that he would turn it around and give meaning once again to the word freedom but it turns out he is just another puppet politician. What happened in the skies over Europe with regard to Morales' plane was illegal. We Americans have the responsibility to lead by good example and obey the international laws that we helped to write. Anything less is simply unacceptable.

    Jul 16th, 2013 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jul 16th, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Baxter

    29 I can imagine why your reply was removed . Every country has a right , under international law , to control who/ what over flies over the country !

    Jul 16th, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jul 17th, 2013 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Captain Poppy

    I have reported you for your unjustified, offensive and aggressive language toward a fellow American citizen.

    I hope democracy and freedom of speech still worth anything in this site a remove your nasty offensive post.

    Viva Amexica!

    Jul 17th, 2013 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    lol You don;t like when I critique your multiple ID's.....as in #28 when you pretend to be an AMerican.....knowing that no American patriot would vote for a commie like Obama?
    What was nasty about it? That I ID'ed your alter ego and called Obama a commie?

    Jul 17th, 2013 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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