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Correction to SAC Falklands Referendum Report
The South Atlantic Council has discovered there were fewer Chilean, Argentine and other foreign-born voters in the Falklands referendum than they estimated three weeks ago. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesReferendum Report:
Jul 19th, 2013 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Failure, Farce and Falsification.
Tell it to the Clarin!
Jul 19th, 2013 - 05:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos Fandango - what frightens RGs more than the Gurkas...the Falklands Referendum!
Jul 19th, 2013 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Jul 19th, 2013 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Referendum: ISLANDERS VOTE TO REMAIN BOT
RESULT: ISLANDERS REMAIN BOT
Simple.
Argentine Election: Morons vote for corrupt shrew
result: Morons get corrupt shrew
Simple!
The Nutty Professor
Jul 19th, 2013 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”He is grateful to the Islander (who wishes to remain anonymous) for challenging him, so that his errors have been corrected. ...............Yeah right!
@3 Faz
Jul 19th, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funny things Argentines - terrified of Gurkhas who they never actually fought against and even more terrified of a couple of thousand FI's who they refuse to meet.
Poor Willetts. He has to write, write and speak and speak against their convictions that hinted the day of the “vote.” And now trying to “fix” that.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have understood that this man is a political scientist, ie without legal training. I understand...
Marcos and Jose - have you not actaually realised that the SAC was actually a pro-Arg lobby as such ! Just that even their members realise that the game is up and you folks have shot yourselves in the feet so many times in recent years you can no longer even stand up to try and make a case.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Jul 19th, 2013 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure it's not just Argentines that are terrified of Gurkhas they are sneaky creep up on you unawares kind of folk. I'm sure if you have a desire for life and like to breathe through your mouth instead of your neck anyone would have reason to be worried!
@1
Jul 19th, 2013 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In your opinion it may be a farce and a failure but unless you can prove it is a falsification you are a liar.
@9
Unless you are the aggressor they are the nicest people you will ever meet.
@1
Jul 19th, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Failure, Farce and Falsification.”=the Argentines false, farcical claim on the Falklands with their falsification of history.
The Falklanders are still better at running their country than the Argentines are at running Argentina-the Islanders have made more progress in 30 years than Argentina has had in 160.
@1 Hahahahahahaha!!!! Better than argies! Desperate, Degenerate, Deviant and Despicable.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 The Preposterous President
Why do you have such a problem with someone finding that they got something wrong, admitting it and issuing a correction.
Is it because the argie “government” NEVER gets anything wrong? This is why argieland is such a prosperous happy place, highly respected around the world for its economic brilliance, contented population, lack of debt and freely-given assistance to neighbouring countries. Hahahahahahaha!!!
@7 Strangely, I can read and comprehend every word that Peter Willetts writes. The same cannot be said for you!
@9 There are lots of Gurkhas near where I live. As Benson has intimated they are polite, courteous and helpful. Great believers in the adage “Walk softly and carry a big stick.” Perhaps that's why they and the British get on so well. Although that business of cutting off enemy heads to prove how many they've killed or that they got the right ones is a bit over the top. It can make such a mess on the barracks floor!!
Transparency like that is to be complemented, unless you are an insecure wannabe fascist dictocracy. Lets see someone outside of the congressional immunity bubble, publish corrections to the INDEC? Oh yes, in Argentina speaking math to power is a crime.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Confirmed: the referendum was a fraud patriotic.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought I would have a higher institutional quality. But the opposite is true. This organization pays. Unfortunately, what we see, the referendum is a plagiarism. As voters and information Clarin and La Nacion, also English sources (Pinguen News) were not required documentation.
Besides the referendum never had greater institutional quality. It was an organization pays and unfortunately, for what is observed, the referendum was a forgery. According voters were not required documentation was voted only to give the name without any pattern control. He had no serious methodological rigor. It gives every impression and suspect it was a patriotic fraud.
As time passes and it shows clearly lacked institutional support is serious, it's really embarrassing
The referendum, as it was raised never solve the problem of sovereignty of the islands. Too much damage David Cameron has made the islanders into thinking it would solve the sovereignty dispute, when in fact it did not have the authorization of United Nations and decolonization committee also was not recognized by anyone. Moreover, no country officially avalo this pseudo referendum.
Beyond all this, taking an overall view and watching the conflict in a broader context is increasingly clear that the global public will no longer accept being cheated.
The referendum was a reaction to intimidate Cristina Kirchner to exhibit on United Nations and leave uncovered racism, colonialism and imperialism of the 21st century English.
At the end of the Decolonization Committee of the United Nations right. This gives more strength to the arguments Argentinos.
The referendum in the United Kingdom in the Falkland Islands is a “political move” totally lacking in legitimacy.
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/06/16/c24-chair-calls-falklands-referendum-political-ploy-praises-argentine-president
(8), (10) & TWIMC
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”(Professor Willetts) is grateful to the Islander (who wishes to remain anonymous) for challenging him, so that his errors have been corrected…..”
”The Islander who wishes to remain anonymous…..”
”Anonymous…..”
As usual in Malvinas; the ”Tall Poppy Syndrome” is King…..
Even telling the most inocent and evident of thruths (as that there are NOT 18 Argentine-born Islanders on the Falklands electoral register) in them Islands must be done ”Anonymous”…..
If not………… Well……….
Some Royal Malvinas Constable could happen to fall over an unregistered weapon, some illegal substances or even some child porn under your pillow when “visiting” your home…..
14 raul2 (#)
Jul 19th, 2013 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:39 pm
Raúl, you really must learn to write English, otherwise no one will be interested in the rubbish you write!!!!!!!
As far as I can understand, “... According voters were not required documentation was voted only to give the name without any pattern control.” neans that you think that the voters giving their names was not enough proof of identity, but you don't understand that neither the British nor the Islanders (and for all I know the rest of the Commonwealth countries) don't carry identity documents!!!!!!!!!!
Unlike us, these peoples have decided that the use of ID is an infringement of their privacy, so no DNI!!!!!!!!!
Raul2 - Please enlighten us as to what documents we should have had? We carry the same as the millions of voters in UK when they have an election - and probably many millions in Europe and the Commonwealth as well - NONE -other than perhaps a driving licence and some bank cards.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your name and address is registered in ONE Constituency only - thus when you go to vote they ask your name and address( 90% of the time those behind the desk doing the asking here know us anyway-but still ask formally).
That is then ticked off on the list and you are given a ballot paper.
So if anyone tries to vote more than once or giving a false name - you cannot, as you will not be given a ballot paper - and probabaly will be arrested even for attempted fraud.
I suspect the metod is the same in UK and many other civilised nations.
That is why the International Observers - INCLUDING those from Uruguay-Chile-Mexico etc - all confirmed the referendum was 100% free and fair.
Get used to it!
Oh - and it is you Argentines who keep on ranting about the referendum- we do not - that tells us one thing - Argentina is WORRIED by it.
@14 Confirmed by what, wanker? Let's see whether we can get you to understand. Nothing an argie, latino-american, latino, south american, spanish, portuguese or related “nationalities” can do means anything.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, here's the deal. Go down the local bar, rest your elbows on the bar, feel your trousers and underpants dropping to your ankles, feel the welcome penetration.
What could be better than doing your “duty” by the “motherland”? How may times do you have to be “shafted”? Who cares? Just peasants!
Raul2 - what frightens RGs more than the Gurkas...the Falklands Referendum!
Jul 19th, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are sooo thick, its soooo obvious you are one of the uneducated peasants.
Even Utter Stink over Dover is totally stumped. Which is not a surprise
@14 Tokyo Raul
Jul 19th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does this guy sound like a brainwashed, indoctrinated commie or what?
First it is ridiculous to talk about “immigrants” referring to Argentines that go to Malvinas Islands, because no one is an immigrant in his own country.
Jul 20th, 2013 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, for our citizenship laws, all born in the Malvinas Argentinas who voted that day, are Argentines who voted, by that of “ius soli”.
The problem is that it is absolutely illegal processes from beginning to end, it would be something like a thousand catamarqueños organize a referendum for the territory where they live is part of ... I know?, from another country.
@21 José Malvinero: “it is absolutely illegal processes from beginning to end”
Jul 20th, 2013 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Has anyone been arrested yet?
When is the trial?
Does your breathe smell like the stuff that comes out of a cows bottom?
@21 José Malvinero: “no one is an immigrant in his own country.”
Well there is a huge hint for you...Reality: ain't it a bitch.
@21 José Malvinero: “it would be something like a thousand catamarqueños organize a referendum... ”
...or 97% of a population of 40million organising a referendum concerning land that they stole by force, maybe?
If axel arg is reading this, José Malvinero is a hypocrite.Hypocrites are not hard to spot: malvinistas supply evidence with a huge preportion of their posts on this website.
Chuckle Chuckle
What are we arguing about here?
Jul 20th, 2013 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK add 100 voters to the list and allocate a NO vote to them.
Would the end result have been any different ?
“Would the end result have been any different ?”
Jul 20th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...Nope.
The world and the UN would still not recognize (and barely notice) the nonsensical illegal mock referendum.
#24
Jul 20th, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why so upset about it then?
This is me being very un-upset ..... :)
Jul 20th, 2013 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0End result is fine with me - the world said .. eh ok, whatever, emm no.
Ok with you ?
I dont understand the correction and what exactly it means. Can someone explain?
Jul 20th, 2013 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But over a referendum of 1500 voters they make such mistakes, well such joke all this matter again.
test.
Jul 21st, 2013 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0#26
Jul 21st, 2013 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you don't care but your govt. were bouncing up and down instead of ignoring it.
The “world” did not say NO. Mostly, except for the Argie camp, were not particularly interested in getting involved as it did not affect them in any way.
@21
Jul 21st, 2013 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Actually, for our citizenship laws, all born in the Malvinas Argentinas who voted that day, are Argentines who voted, by that of “ius soli”.
Your country must be a CATASTROPHE going rapidly down the tubes if 99% of your own citizens (including its Argentine' population') voted against being part of it.
If the referendum was illegal, why did Argentina not contest it in an international court???
And as @22 screenname pointed out “ Has anyone been arrested yet?”
If they are your citizens by law, why don't you just go in and arrest them then?
What happens if they are found guilty?
Will they be thrown out of the
back of a helicopter (Pamperos?)into the River Plate like all those 40,000 Argentines in the 1970s and 1980s?
Or will you give them a worse punishment like being forced to visit a waxwork museum and made to kiss the images of CFK, Timmerturd and all the other politicians squirrelling Argentine citizen's money into Swiss bank accounts?
“because no one is an immigrant in his own country”
But you claim Falkland islanders born 'in their own country 'are transplanted, so YOU SAY , FALSELY that they are immigrants in their own country.
Have you ever had the brains to consider that Argentines moving to the Falklands, do not do so for the benefit of your imperialist, peronist, master race, but because living conditions are BETTER for them there than the country they have escaped from?
Hence they are more likely than the Islanders to vote against Argentine sovereignty, because they have experienced how badly Argentina is run for themselves.
If you idiots did not bully the Islands, instead encouraging and supporting them to be independent (according to the goals of UN de-colonisation), the Islanders would be more confident in welcoming more Argentinians to be Falkland Islanders, and more Argentines would get a chance for their kids to go to UK universities and receive a proper education where they do not get brainwashed.
“Professor Willetts says the existence of the unnoticed Argentines supports his concept of some immigrants becoming Incorporated Islanders, who are fully integrated into the Falklands community.”
Jul 22nd, 2013 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0This shows that the Argentines can be integrated into your culture
Also, this note shows how complex a simple vote of a few people, and immigration complex system to maintain artificial population, otherwise not explained why there are so few Argentines compared with other nationalities, example Chile, citizens of Santa Elena.
31 Malvinense 1833 (#)
Jul 22nd, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jul 22nd, 2013 - 01:13 am
There is a very simple explanation for there being so few Argentines integrated into the Falklands society, and that is the “Malvinas Myth” part of which tells us “Argentines are not welcome on the Islands and are not allowed to live there.” Reading the immigration rules on the FIG web page proves this to be untrue.
If the FIG is telling the truth it is no more difficult for an Argentine to emigrate to the Islands than it is for a Brit!!!!!!!!!!
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