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Falklands’ shooters suffer consequences of record high temperatures in the UK
While the Falklands team struggles in Bermuda high temperatures the Falkland Islands Rifle Association is also dealing with a heat wave at Bisley shooting range in the UK, reports competitor Gareth Goodwin. Read full article
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Jul 19th, 2013 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 011 Vestige
You're an idiot. You have no idea about life in the Falklands.
We have supermarkets, a heated swimming pool, and a cinema at MPA. No-one apart from some retired people spend half their time away.
We have dangerously bright sunshine for much of the year.
Educate yourself and stop looking like a tit.
We have dangerously bright sunshine for much of the year.......but with no heat!
So ?
Jul 19th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bisley target shooters most dangerous gun owners on the planet.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0If they corner you in a pub they can force you to knaw your own arm off to escape the shear boredom of a discussion on handloading :).
Mind you they are very very impressive on the range
@2
Jul 19th, 2013 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So........go on take your time......I know it's difficult for that pea -brain, wait a minute I can see the cogs turning.......there you go........all that sun and not used to the heat ergo........no heat, makes a mockery of his jibe!
@4 Apart from that it is wrong.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 AVoice of Thinks
Jul 19th, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0God you're really showing your ignorance here, aren't you?
'Dangerously bright sunshine' doesn't necessarily equate to heat. The antarctic has a lot of sunshine, but you wouldn't call it warm, would you?
Now take your foot out of your mouth and go play somewhere else.
When you shoot an open competition at Bisley you are up against the very best rifle (and pistol before the Dunblane kneejerk) shooters in the world.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given the lack of facilities to replicate Bisley Ranges on the Falklands I think they both did well.
Then why did he bother mentioning it.......making out that they have plenty of Sun.........like I said.......Sun with no heat.......Dumbo! Why don't you read the posts instead of making stupid remarks?
Jul 19th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But there is heat, less than BA more than Scotland. Gets into the mid twenties and occasionally higher and that is too hot for me. I was saying you were wrong, Dumbo!
Jul 19th, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Jul 19th, 2013 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which means Argentines get FA done and islanders work hard-hence the comparative failure of the Argentine economy versus the Falkland Island economy.
I experiences temperatures of 25-30 oc in the Falkland Islands when I lived there, as usual you have no idea what you are talking about-and could stick the temperature when it was cooler.
One reason the Argentines never moved to the islands when they had more opportunity to.
The Falkland Islanders are excellent snipers-so when the Argies do have the guts to reinvade, there's going to be loads of them being dropped when they land-and that's only with the FIDF being involved.
@10
Jul 19th, 2013 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well you should tell your shooters to practise there then.
Oh yeah I can see how good they are .........502nd and 640th.......excuse me while I politely titter!
@10 Pete:
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here also we have excellent shooters, doctors, musicians, cooks.
Please, calm mate.
Oh by the way very gray and cold days in Silverland (Argentina) haha
Oh is too hot for us....Useless kelpers :-))
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#9
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You would not say that if you were here today. Today, in my back garden, in the shade it is 30 °C. The temp. in my glasshouse would melt lead ! It has not dropped below 24°C for days.
Dangerous bright sun can refer to UV content which in Southern latitudes can be severe. In NZ the UV content of the sunlight is scary, even when the temperature is modest. The combination of snow and sunshine is the most dangerous.
I have been in several really hot places including the Arava desert in Israel with no great problem as I took advice and care.
I have had heat stroke twice, both in NW Sutherland in Scotland. Playing about on the beach all day with a temp. of 20°C and a cooling breeze it didn't feel hot but it taught me a salutary lesson after the second time -the foolishness of youth !
@14 Clyde15: In the summer, cover their heads with a good hat.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 Clyde15
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 030 °C is not that hot, make sure you remove your black furry hat(busby) from your head.
Anybody who thinks positions 502nd and 640th at the premier fullbore target rifle competition in the world are something to laugh about is an ignoramus.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But we knew that about ‘it’ anyway.
@16
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is for Scotland
Well the argintine contingent apprantly ran away leaving their kit behind and have declared rhemselves the rightful winners.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What point is that A_Voice idiot trying to make. You would think after Argentina's performance at the Olympics and, for that matter the whole of South America, they would keep their traps shut where any sport is concerned.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For a nation of 40 million people like Argentina to win one gold medal is pretty damned terrible and a public embarrassment.
@20 Britworker: ok, ok, well but I think we have not done so badly in the Stanley Marathon...;-)
Jul 19th, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 Martin Woodhead
Jul 19th, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brilliant, I can picture it in my mind!
LMAO
Marcos- and others- The Falkands have been competing at Bisley for many years- long before you were even born!
Jul 19th, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In other years we have won medals and trophys and beaten Countries will populations in millions. This year was bad luck with the weather and perhaps not even our strongest team as some were at the Small Island Games in Bermuda (same heat problem there as well) .
Give it a windy day at Bisley and cool and the Falklands team are in their element dealing with windage.
Furthermore here in the Islands our volunteer Defence Force team regularily beats the proffessional British Army teams at shooting competitions.
Some of you like Marcos have not got a clue about what you are talking about.
Malvinense- yes correct- an Argentine athlete won it I think - and well done him - shows we at least,put sport above politics.
23 Islander1
Jul 19th, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In other years we have won medals and trophies”
In what category?
How many penguins can you starve in a year or how many can you boil to extract oil?
Argentinians laughing at other people not winning medals? lmao, bloody brilliant considering the Olympics.
Jul 19th, 2013 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You guys must have short memories because you completely sucked ass at the worlds number one sports competition.
Ah, good memories of Bisley for me.
Jul 20th, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Made 'the Army hundred' (55th) before I was 20 years old.......
26 Escoses Doido
Jul 20th, 2013 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What rifle though?
Army Target Club by any chance?
#16
Jul 20th, 2013 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are you talking about ? Black furry busby ?
Northern Europeans are not designed for hot weather but can adapt. We also take windy, rainy weather in our stride. Remember your troops in the Falklands just about dying from exposure, we survive quite happily in that climate by putting on an extra jumper.
76.1v
Jul 20th, 2013 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's nuffin.
1” group at 25m, now that's shooting!
Chuckle, chuckle!
Be hard pushed to see any farther than that these days.
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@chris R
Jul 20th, 2013 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 07.62mm SLR, 9 milli SMG, 9 milli Browning pistol.
I remember doing 10/10 at the fig 12c target at 500 meters with iron sights. (Association match)
30 Escoses Doido
Jul 20th, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great shooting! Ahh, but you were under 20! :o)
Don't we retired guys wish that back again, only in my case it was an Enfield number 4 SMLE, Mk 7 .303 with standard iron sights. Great times. Browning Hi-Power, not allowed SMG being a civilian, but I did fire a sten at Lichfield Barracks (under Army supervision!).
Only the once mind you but that was enough, bleeding thing!
For pure orgasmic delight!
Jul 20th, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing beats the good old LMG or Bren as it was.
@31 & 32:
Jul 20th, 2013 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Matron! that Enfield .303 - Never fired her full bore, but what a sexy weapon!
LMG (formally the Bren) fired it a number of times as 7.62mm, - Really liked it.
I would love to fire the Sten SMG some day......Annoys the hell out of me when I see actors in the old WW2 films either holding it by the mag, or with their left elbow pointing down. The best way, is to brace the mag against your left fore arm (left hand holding the barrel) - It´s very good, fast, stable for snap shooting. (it gets rid of the ´wobble factor´of the side horizontal mag)
Still keep my hand in regularly shooting pistol (IPSC)
Yeah the Bren LMG was a great multi purpose weapon. The single shot function was useful too.
Jul 20th, 2013 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Carried the Browning for 13 years, could not shoot it for shit, then got posted to AFCENT attached to the Koninklijke Marechausseee. Down their indoor range at Heerlen, once a month with one too one tuition from their instructors, to pass their qualification. Two and a half years later could put ten rounds into knee caps from thirty metres. Believe it or not, Dutch police are trained to shoot not to kill and aim below the waist. Centre of a T, formed by the waist belt and gap between the legs. Though they could when circumstances permit it, much like our rules of engagement, use lethal force.
Jul 20th, 2013 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also fired other national handguns, US 1911 Colt 45, US Airforce 38 S&W, Feldjager Walther P1 and Belgian 9 mm Browning with adjustable rear sight.
Long time ago now, but still remember instructors saying, “squeeze the trigger, gram by gram, don't snatch it! verdamnt Brits, that's right you keep their heads down, someone else will shoot them for you. Verdamnt Brits! go and stand in front of them, you'll be safer.”
Hated the SMG, never get to grips with it, literally, always felt awkward, all elbows and arms. Reasonable laying prone, crap kneeling or standing.
33 Escoses Doido
Jul 20th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The NL cunts aided by the idiot Major took £17,000 worth of pistols off me, just about covered the write down value and bought another rook of pistol calibre carbines and put enough aside for my eventual retirement.
Still had my 0.22rf lr BA & SA rifles, 0.223 Rem Krico fox, 0.243 Win SS barrel in Winchester P14 and its sister in 0.303 British CW genuine 2nd WW German made telescopic scope and the real big bore a Ruger RS1 in 45x70 Govt but loaded to full charge with 300gn HP jacketed for deer.
Favourite load for TMBOA: 0.243 Win 95gn Boat tail Ballistic tipped Nosler clocking 3,250 fps. Put deer down dead on their feet every time, either neck or head (hinds).
I thought about getting a 9mm SA for personal protection but I have other remedies without the hassle of getting a ticket over here.
I had my first shot with a pistol when I was 12 (Luger P.08) and fired my last rifle before selling the lot when I was 65. Not a bad run though, but I still miss it.
ChrisR
Jul 20th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just returned to skeet after five year absence from the sport.
Love it, could shoot it all day long.
Something about about it, when you do everything right, you just know you are going to hit the clay even as you squeeze the trigger. Just as you bloody well know you have done it all wrong and are going to miss!
Hardest part was trying to forget rifle discipline and keep the gun moving. Lost count of the amount of times I sighted on the clay, fired only to see have the shot pass five feet behind the clay, which surprise, surprise kept on going!!!!
It's popular around here, never any shortage of experienced shooters, always ready to give advice and encouragement. Fair amount of piss taking too, but all light hearted.
If I win the lottery, gonna buy me a house with a bloody great garden and build a skeet range in it. Sod the neighbours.
Better start buying a ticket!
You have to remember that the .303 was designed to take down a cavalry horse and was rather overkill for infantry.
Jul 20th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The SMLE is a bit of a beast. Squeeze the trigger and go instantly deaf. I can remember shooting for my marksman's badge at RAF Kinloss in 1958. A group of 5 in a one and a half inch group at 25 yards was the standard -within the inner and bull only to qualify. One tiny little cadet who could not have weighed more than 6 stones actually travelled backwards with the recoil !
The few of us who qualified were allowed two magazines on the Bren. We were told to fire it like a “typewriter”, dit dit dit in short bursts and then with the second magazine on full automatic. It was so accurate that there was almost no spread of fire if you kept a firm hold. Our target for the automatic fire was a timber baton about 6“ x 3”. It cut through it like a saw.
I have been told the sten was a bastard and could go off if you looked at it twice.
My father told me the tale when his squad were getting instruction on the sten by an RAF armourer. He did not like the barrel pointing at him so he moved to the side. The armourer bumped the gun and the whole magazine fired before he could do anything to stop it. Ashen faces all around.
My brother had much the same experience with watching the stripping of a 20mm cannon. He moved from where the barrel was pointing and a spring shot forward and went through the side of the nissen hut.
The only other weapon I fired was an M-16 at the USAF base at RAF Lakenheath. It was a comfortable weapon to hold and by this time, ear defenders were mandatory. The targets were man size figures at 200 yards using open sights. I managed two head shots, one throat shot and two chest shots in 5 rounds. I could not handle the automatic setting as the gun kept climbing up after every shot. The instructor said that they taught the troops to fire 3 rounds at a time as what I had
experienced was common. After that, it was a .22 air rifle.
Remember very arrogantly taking on some civillian target shooters with my new L96 With Schimt and bender scope and they had iron sites.
Jul 21st, 2013 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0It didnt end well for me sniping is not target shooting and target shooting isnt sniping.
Your probably in the top 2000th shooters in the world didnt really help what was left of my ego the diffrence was that great
Well, following on from @39 when I returned to target rifle after many years shooting Ball Trap (AA rating) competitively I thought I would buy a cheap rifle just in case I couldn't take to it again.
Jul 21st, 2013 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of my managers was a reserve 42 Commando and his mate had a Winchester P14 rebarreled to 7.62 (with the extra in the throat) and wanted to give it up. FORTY POUNDS changed hands for an immaculate barrel and a very good action, the woodwork suffered the usual over-oiling of the barrel and storing the rifle on the butt plate.
Using Radway Green, Green Spot, issued by Diggle Rifle Club my first experience with it was shooting the Open 1,000 yards Competition at Diggle Ranges. It was a good job I had unlimited ammunition for practice (as long as you bought from the club. Two competitors had Swings, and obviously shot together and they were also members of the club.
So I thought put it all behind you and do your best: glad I did, I WON it! Big lesson was that it does not matter what the other shooters do if they do not concentrate on WHAT they are doing. They clearly had dismissed me and my old P14, they came second and third.
Out of all the trophies I have won in all types of shotgun, pistol and rifle competition shooting I only have six shooting trophies on display in my office and one of them is the 1,000 yard Open at Diggle.
oh dear!! poor chaps!! better luck next time....
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