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Hague and Garcia-Margallo committed to diplomatic solution to Spain/Gibraltar border dispute

Wednesday, August 7th 2013 - 17:53 UTC
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British Foreign Secretary William Hague spoke on Wednesday to his Spanish peer Jose Garcia Margallo with the commitment of finding a diplomatic solution to the dispute at the Spain/Gibraltar border. Read full article

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  • Conqueror

    “He committed himself to look for a solution to the current situation ”created by the Gibraltar authorities“ and which had created great ”discontent“ in Spain. He declared the ”unilateral“ dropping of the cement reef blocks as ”unacceptable”. ”
    Well that's a shame then, isn't it? Because the current situation has actually been created by the greedy, grasping, lawless Spanish fishermen, the equally lawless and thuggish Guardia Civil and the incompetent, colonialist Spanish government.
    Quoting from the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht, what is it about “ceded in perpetuity” that Spain doesn't understand?
    Looking at international law, what is it about no country have legally-recognised territorial waters until 1958, when all coastal territories got them, that Spain doesn't understand?
    What is it about Spanish fishermen illegally poaching in British Gibraltar Territorial Waters that Spain doesn't understand?
    What is it about creating an artificial reef with concrete blocks to protect the environment and, incidentally, the safety of aircraft using Gibraltar airport in British Gibraltar Territorial Waters that Spain doesn't understand?
    Spain would be well advised not to try to take a leaf out of argieland's book of incompetencies. The book didn't do argieland any good!

    Aug 07th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    I'm not sure but I think history shows that finding “solutions” to avoid any further aggressive behaviour, just leads to more aggressive behaviour.

    Is this what is meant by seasoned “statecraft” and “giving them more rope”.

    I'll bet Rajoy's approval ratings go up a bit in days to come.

    “When you do anything over there, you need to have our approval first. We'll do what we want over here, don't bother telling us anything”.

    Aug 07th, 2013 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    @1

    Actually it did. It's making sure there can never again be actual relations between the UK and Argentina. Trust me, we win big time there by you stay very far away from us.

    Aug 07th, 2013 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    @3 TP

    What has Argentina gained by keeping some distance between themselves and the UK? Just one specific example.

    What would have happened to Argentina if they had normal political and business relations with the UK? What negative event would have happened to Argentina by now if they had a close connection to the UK?

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    Been dragged to some war like the great lie of Iraq? Surely, look what the allies of the USA/UK got for that, (Spain, bombed... London, bombed).

    And eventually the British find ways to steal territory and it is always been a goal of the UK to gain actual economic control of Argentine coastal waters. Had we signed some agreements with them surely by now they would have found some excuse to claim a breach was made, and that they now had to “take control” of our economic EEZ. Just the way that government has always acted for the last 500 years or so.

    Argentina has not LOST anything by keeping the UK away, that's what's important. It has nothing to gain since the UK has nothing in particular that Argentina needs or cannot get elsewhere.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Your off your head.

    Britian wants nothing from you, it's you that wants something you can not have. As for keeping us away, you failed, miserably.

    We are back on Islands to protect them from your colonial ambitions and we intend staying there and there's nothing you can do about it,

    Not even by sending your banshee of a presidentrt to spout drivel at the UN.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @5

    Rubbish, and you know it.

    Britain has absolutely no interest in Argentine territorial waters except for where it directly impacts the Falklands.

    Drag Argentina into Iraq, hahahahahahaha, with what? Your military is a bigger joke than your economy, which is a best third world.

    I am all for your idea of Argentine isolationism, because I don't think the current Argentine government is fit to mix with proper human beings, however, when you mature, we will welcome you back, probably with your begging bowl....again

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @5 TruthFreeTroll
    The last time Argentina had great relations with the UK, britain built its railway system and argentina exported produce like it had never done before. Britain brought football to Argentina and sports were never the same again. Britain as part of the UN and NATO has helped fight terrorists and tyrants, kept europe safe from invasion and signed many treaties with friendly countries. Argentina has everything to gain from better relations and has lost so much from its poor relations with Britain and other countries. Inward investment into Argentina, import reductions in both directions, military prowess, shit man, you've lost bloody loads. Britain will keep calm and carry on, whilst you guys continue to blow fuses.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    “Hague and Garcia-Margallo committed to diplomatic solution to Spain/Gibraltar border dispute”

    Spain and the UK have very different ideas when it comes to what would be classed as diplomacy.

    Trying to look at this from a neutral point of view, if the UK is not willing to defend what they see as Gibraltar's territorial waters and Spain considers Gibraltar to have no territorial waters, Gibraltar needs to take this to court itself for a definitive answer.

    But speaking as someone who will be in Spain this time next week, I would have been quite happy for the UK to just let Madrid escalate the matter: then for the Prime Minister to make a statement to the press stating that due to safety concerns for British citizens in Spain, holidaymakers should look at altering their holiday plans. If that had not made Madrid wet the bed, then stopping British holidaymakers flying out to Spain for security reasons should have been the next step. After a fortnight of returning British tourists not being replaced, I'm sure the Spanish people would have made Madrid see sense (and it would give a lot of ammunition to Catalonian and Canarian separatists).

    Well, no more late booked holidays for me to Spain this year, and the only holiday I already have books for next year so far is Corfu. So it's bye bye to my Euros for the Spanish economy.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #3
    “Trust me” I notice a few of your troll friends have used this expression.
    Why should we ? 1982 taught us a good lesson on Argentina's duplicity.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    The only begging bowl I see is that of the UK and Europe praying everyday their bonds will still be bought. I just read a report that states that even a mild “rewinding” of world interest rates (which may be coming in the next decade after a decade of in effect 0 rates), will eat away at your country's military (already strained for the criminal purposes of bombing innocents, that's all they do since 2003), and that will be that.

    The UK is well away from Argentina, The Falklands are not Argentina, they are out there in the ocean (not my words btw). But the endless “confrontation” has been successful in irradiating any sprout of cooperation between the two countries. That indeed is good for us.

    It's been 30 plus years since Argentina and the UK have done ANYTHING together. That's a long time... how come if it so damned important to have cooperation with you has Argentina not needed it one iota?

    @8

    Not interested, in Britain or in other countries. The past is the past.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    Threats to cut off Gibraltar 'inappropriate,' says mayor of Spanish border town”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10223329/Threats-to-cut-off-Gibraltar-inappropriate-says-mayor-of-Spanish-border-town.html

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *9 and maybe put a rocket up your a**!! and send you to Mars.What the hell are you going to Spain for?? Go somewhere else you silly troll!! and don´t tell me when or why I have to visit Spain...

    *12 This is the mistress of Picardo. How much is she getting paid by Moonface??!!

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #11
    I partly agree with what you say. Argentina should go its own way, mind its own business and continue on its progress to be the carbuncle of the world. I hope your wish is granted soon.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *9 And you know what they say about the Greeks so keep your preety a** protected at all times!!when you go to Corfu!!
    www.ireport.cnn/DOC-972384

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    OOOOOOOOOO I've angered a sock puppet.

    These malvinistas are getting a bit touchy...wonder if they are worried the paychecks will to dry up if CFK gets the heave ho?

    @13: I never told you to do anything...perhaps if English was your first language you would have realised that.

    FYI I'm going to the Canaries because the holiday was booked and paid for over 12 months ago. Most folk round that way that I have met are not too keen on mainlanders, so I think I'll keep up the tipping though. Still no more helping the Spanish economy after this one. Shame, because I really like the people of Ibiza (very similar to the Maltese).

    Wonder if I'll fit in a holiday to Malta before Corfu next summer? That would be nice.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    www.ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-972384

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @13

    ????

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    13 aussie sunshine

    If your claim is true, well done to him.

    At least it is a female unlike yourself who has to bend over for another sex-starved Malvanista / La Camping-it-up troll.

    So keep bending for TMBOA's sake: you KNOW you like it anyway.

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @11 Well, this isn't begging. PAY YOUR DEBTS. You OWE the UK £45 million. Will you be coughing up by next Monday? There may be a small element of interest since the money was borrowed in 1979. Shall we say 5% per annum per year compound? I make that a little over £225 million now. How will you be paying?
    @13,15 You seem to have4 a very unhealthy interest in people's rear ends. Perhaps an overwhelming desire on your part to get shafted? Buenos Aires is the place for you!
    @17 And why would you have that at your fingertips? Been to Corfu and been offering freebies, have you? Bit miffed? Because nobody could tell the difference between your face and your arse?

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *20 The only person who can´t tell the difference between his arse and his face is you!! you warmongering useless troll!!

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    And once again these argie trolls only say what they are told to say,

    Anything and everything to upset and confuse the brits,

    Yet somehow getting confused themselves lol.
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    You must really envy us,
    Otherwise you would not be here continually yelping lol.
    .

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    * 22 What´s the problem? can´t *20 defend himself that you have to come along and hold his hand!! Let THE WARRIOR defend himself and you can go up shit creek!!

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Gibraltar visit for Royal Navy warship is routine, says MoD'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

    'Gibraltar imposes a fine of 1,200 pounds Spanish fishermen arrested for smuggling'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

    'Gibraltar Telegraph poll being won by Spain after social media campaign - The Telegraph's poll on whether Gibraltar is British or Spanish has gone viral in Spain, sparking a social media campaign that led to what appeared to be a comfortable victory for those who want the Rock to become part of the mainland...'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

    'Like North Korea? - Sabre-rattling will only push Spain’s target out of reach - WITH its branches of British high street retailers such as Marks and Spencer or BHS, and a large Morrisons supermarket, Gibraltar can seem the most English of places. Add in seagulls, tepid beer and red telephone boxes and the picture of a genteel British seaside town might be complete...'
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

    '“In Gibraltar and the Falklands, UK tries to hide his strategy neocolonial”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    24 * what the bbc does not mention is that the British Fleet will be stopping in Rota Spain after asking the Spanish government permission to enter port before moving on to Gibraltar and then Albania.......This was planned months beforehand and has nothing to do with the spat between the two countries.....

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @21 I have a pressure washer especially designed for shit. You seem to be a likely target, turd. It's difficult to find a suitable word for a microbial infested dog-turd. But I will. Apologies, by the way, to all dogs. You are generally clean, fastidious, careful beings. “aussie sunshine” has none of those attributes. Possibly the most disgusting thing I have ever encountered. No brain, no mind, no intelligence, no education, no morals, no courtesy. There is no way that you should be permitted to interact with human beings. Scum aren't human. And YOU are SCUM!
    @23 Don't worry, shitface. I had a few things more important than your insane, mindless, incestuous rantings to deal with. It's called “life”. I just wish I could be present to watch you die. Or, preferably, kill you!

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *26 uP YOURS!!! yOU COULDN´T KILLA FLY WITH A CAN OF INSECTICIDE...

    Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @11 TTT
    Because, my cerebrally challenged numpty, there is always benefit to be had when countries trade. If it were not so, close your borders. We can trade with you guys and all the rest, we'll benefit, we'll be uplifted, you'll be uplifted. It's win win win. Your sad attitude will not benefit you one iota, the evidence is clear on that, you have had zero benefit from not trading and if you are willing to wear that kind of badge with pride then your country is in the deepest do-do if all argentines are as like minded.

    Aug 09th, 2013 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    23
    envy proven lol

    Aug 09th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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