An auction to privatize airports in Rio and Belo Horizonte, two host cities for the 2014 World Cup, will be held on October 31, Brazilian authorities have announced. Read full article
Well, these aren't the actions of a classically socialist president - more the actions of a realistic boss needing to draw on worldwide expertise to ready the country for the big events. It also tells Infraero - and others - that the monopolistic days of insatitiable profit from poor provision are gone.
I agree, now we just need that approach in Uruguay: UTE, ANCAP, BSE and leave ANTEL to the existing management, they at least do know what they are doing.
...Well, as long as those airport privatizations don't turn out to be as catastrophical as the railroad ones that were in the past, i see no objections to it. It can also be a good chance to upgrade the quality of the aerial transportation system, so it seems pretty valid.
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Rio - absolutely critical.
Rio will be the focus of world attention on Brasil in the coming years;
the expertise of Heathrow-scale experience needs to be brought in soonest.
GeoffWard2 - Yes, privatization is the new socialist way of governing: the government privatize everything, put the money in their pockets and collect taxes and demand from the privatized companies, roads, airports that what should be done using taxpayers' money be done by them, so the rulers get extremely rich, corrupt, of course, and sell the image they are capitalists! This is modern communism. Brazil is doing this after Venezuela and the people are happily starving.
'Heathrow-*scale* ...'.
Chose any - O'Hare, perhaps. Miami Int.? ...
But chose the BEST model incorporating realistic growth-projections. Brasil needs the best, especially in the mass population centres along the Atlantic states.
So the way they do it now works, does it? Not in Sao Paulo in my experience.
Privatisation is not corrupt per se. It is the people the government “select” to run the privatisation who are corrupt, not the system.
Also, there should be competition in the system, allowing one corporation to have airports associated together is asking for a concert party which is bound to lead to corruption.
If you want to know how NOT to do it look at the M6 Toll Toad in the UK. The government thought they were dealing with good people (they were not British) and did not put restrictions on what the company could charge per vehicle. Result: after a few months of operation the fees went up and up and up. The whole reason for the new road, to take pressure off the M6 itself, failed miserably as people would not pay the exorbitant tolls.
Then the government had to admit there was nothing they could do about it.
ChrisR The reality of Brazil is something most Europeans cannot understand. Here the government is corrupt, in this country to be honest is not the rule, it is the exception (190.000.000 people and few exceptions), and plagues from top to bottom. People protesting here? You may not not believe, but I will try to make you have a slight idea: people go out to the streets to protest and the government sends criminals to break and burn public and private property, so the protests are deligitimized - yes, that simple: Cuban and Venezuelan Schools. The government lowers bus fares and charges more tax to subsidize, soon the fares are up again and the takes in their pockes. I understand that you cannot understand this. But I assure you that democracy in Latin America brought to power evil people. There are no difference among parties and states in Brazil, 99% of Brazilian politicians would be in jail in your country. In Brazil our president was a communist guerrilla leader so you can immagine what kind of people is ruling The Gian that Never Woke up! Read the story of Eike Batista and you will see a grain in the desert of what our corrupt government does with pubic money. Read about Pre-Sal that was the political flagship of Dilma to get elected: a lie! The is no Pre-Sal, but the people believed we would become a Saudi Arabia - take in consideration that Brazil has a vast majority of its population that is not able to understand the difference between reality and fiction so it is very easy to lie to them, give out 30U$ a month and make them believe they are not poor any more... My facebook is Silvio Akcelrud if you want to know more about Brazil and Latin America (nickname America Latrina - google Latrina to laugh abit).
macsilvinho (#10)
Read about Pre-Sal that was the political flagship of Dilma to get elected: a lie! The is no Pre-Sal ...,
'Since 2006, Petrobras has sunk 11 oil wells in the Santos Basin. All these oil wells have been successful. At the prospects of Tupi and Iara alone, which are located in the BM-S-11 block, Petrobras already estimates that there are 8 to 12 billion barrels of recoverable oil. This block alone can almost double the current Brazilian reserves.' (Wiki)
There is a difference between 'oil found and yet to be extracted' and 'There is no oil!
GeoffWard2 None of the oil wells that you mention are as deep as the pre-sal layer. You believe in misinformation and yes, for Dilma to get elected Lula and and the corruPT party here invented the pre-Sal and promised Brazil we would become the next Saudi Arabia. It is a pity you are misinformed, go on believing in lies like 70% 0f the semi or illeterate Brazilians who voted for the corruPT party to (mis)govern this country.
For your information 5 years ago Brazil was self-sufficien in petroil, today we are, again, importers. Petrobras has had heavy losses under the government of the ex-terrorist Dilma, now president of this 3rd word country.
Come visit and/or talk to people who know to read free press - you will be impressed!
'Production from the pre-salt reserves has been increasing gradually.
In the Lula field (formerly known as Tupi) in the Santos Basin, a pilot project is in operation using the platform-vessel 'Angra dos Reis', with a daily production capacity of up to 100 thousand barrels of oil and 4 million cubic meters of gas.
This is the first production platform in the area projected to operate on a commercial scale. The vessel is anchored around 300 km off the coast, and is currently producing around 25,000 barrels of oil per day.
The information collected from these wells, and dozens of other wells, allows the uncertainties over pre-salt reserves to be considerably reduced.
Several of these newly discovered reserves entered into production using platforms that were already operating in existing post-salt layer fields (above the pre-salt layer), that have been adapted to the light oil reservoirs found in the Pre-salt layer.'
This is 'new frontier' work in oil exploration and extraction. I followed closely the geo-analysis work through a great friend's Masters project. The extraction process is new and deeper; the full extraction flows will not appear 'just like magic'. This is hard and costly in this phase. The returns WILL be massive even though the shale alternative alters the projected economic RoR.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell, these aren't the actions of a classically socialist president - more the actions of a realistic boss needing to draw on worldwide expertise to ready the country for the big events. It also tells Infraero - and others - that the monopolistic days of insatitiable profit from poor provision are gone.
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Aug 12th, 2013 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree, now we just need that approach in Uruguay: UTE, ANCAP, BSE and leave ANTEL to the existing management, they at least do know what they are doing.
...Well, as long as those airport privatizations don't turn out to be as catastrophical as the railroad ones that were in the past, i see no objections to it. It can also be a good chance to upgrade the quality of the aerial transportation system, so it seems pretty valid.
Aug 13th, 2013 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rio do Janeiro?
Aug 16th, 2013 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0#4
Aug 16th, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rio - absolutely critical.
Rio will be the focus of world attention on Brasil in the coming years;
the expertise of Heathrow-scale experience needs to be brought in soonest.
5 GeoffWard2
Aug 16th, 2013 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Somebody, somewhere, must have better experience than the operator at Heathrow! Absolutely terrible place, similar to Madrid for cock-ups.
GeoffWard2 - Yes, privatization is the new socialist way of governing: the government privatize everything, put the money in their pockets and collect taxes and demand from the privatized companies, roads, airports that what should be done using taxpayers' money be done by them, so the rulers get extremely rich, corrupt, of course, and sell the image they are capitalists! This is modern communism. Brazil is doing this after Venezuela and the people are happily starving.
Aug 16th, 2013 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chris.
Aug 16th, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Heathrow-*scale* ...'.
Chose any - O'Hare, perhaps. Miami Int.? ...
But chose the BEST model incorporating realistic growth-projections. Brasil needs the best, especially in the mass population centres along the Atlantic states.
7 macsilvinho
Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0So the way they do it now works, does it? Not in Sao Paulo in my experience.
Privatisation is not corrupt per se. It is the people the government “select” to run the privatisation who are corrupt, not the system.
Also, there should be competition in the system, allowing one corporation to have airports associated together is asking for a concert party which is bound to lead to corruption.
If you want to know how NOT to do it look at the M6 Toll Toad in the UK. The government thought they were dealing with good people (they were not British) and did not put restrictions on what the company could charge per vehicle. Result: after a few months of operation the fees went up and up and up. The whole reason for the new road, to take pressure off the M6 itself, failed miserably as people would not pay the exorbitant tolls.
Then the government had to admit there was nothing they could do about it.
I do hope Brazil avoid this.
ChrisR The reality of Brazil is something most Europeans cannot understand. Here the government is corrupt, in this country to be honest is not the rule, it is the exception (190.000.000 people and few exceptions), and plagues from top to bottom. People protesting here? You may not not believe, but I will try to make you have a slight idea: people go out to the streets to protest and the government sends criminals to break and burn public and private property, so the protests are deligitimized - yes, that simple: Cuban and Venezuelan Schools. The government lowers bus fares and charges more tax to subsidize, soon the fares are up again and the takes in their pockes. I understand that you cannot understand this. But I assure you that democracy in Latin America brought to power evil people. There are no difference among parties and states in Brazil, 99% of Brazilian politicians would be in jail in your country. In Brazil our president was a communist guerrilla leader so you can immagine what kind of people is ruling The Gian that Never Woke up! Read the story of Eike Batista and you will see a grain in the desert of what our corrupt government does with pubic money. Read about Pre-Sal that was the political flagship of Dilma to get elected: a lie! The is no Pre-Sal, but the people believed we would become a Saudi Arabia - take in consideration that Brazil has a vast majority of its population that is not able to understand the difference between reality and fiction so it is very easy to lie to them, give out 30U$ a month and make them believe they are not poor any more... My facebook is Silvio Akcelrud if you want to know more about Brazil and Latin America (nickname America Latrina - google Latrina to laugh abit).
Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0macsilvinho (#10)
Aug 17th, 2013 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read about Pre-Sal that was the political flagship of Dilma to get elected: a lie! The is no Pre-Sal ...,
'Since 2006, Petrobras has sunk 11 oil wells in the Santos Basin. All these oil wells have been successful. At the prospects of Tupi and Iara alone, which are located in the BM-S-11 block, Petrobras already estimates that there are 8 to 12 billion barrels of recoverable oil. This block alone can almost double the current Brazilian reserves.' (Wiki)
There is a difference between 'oil found and yet to be extracted' and 'There is no oil!
GeoffWard2 None of the oil wells that you mention are as deep as the pre-sal layer. You believe in misinformation and yes, for Dilma to get elected Lula and and the corruPT party here invented the pre-Sal and promised Brazil we would become the next Saudi Arabia. It is a pity you are misinformed, go on believing in lies like 70% 0f the semi or illeterate Brazilians who voted for the corruPT party to (mis)govern this country.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0For your information 5 years ago Brazil was self-sufficien in petroil, today we are, again, importers. Petrobras has had heavy losses under the government of the ex-terrorist Dilma, now president of this 3rd word country.
Come visit and/or talk to people who know to read free press - you will be impressed!
'Production from the pre-salt reserves has been increasing gradually.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the Lula field (formerly known as Tupi) in the Santos Basin, a pilot project is in operation using the platform-vessel 'Angra dos Reis', with a daily production capacity of up to 100 thousand barrels of oil and 4 million cubic meters of gas.
This is the first production platform in the area projected to operate on a commercial scale. The vessel is anchored around 300 km off the coast, and is currently producing around 25,000 barrels of oil per day.
The information collected from these wells, and dozens of other wells, allows the uncertainties over pre-salt reserves to be considerably reduced.
Several of these newly discovered reserves entered into production using platforms that were already operating in existing post-salt layer fields (above the pre-salt layer), that have been adapted to the light oil reservoirs found in the Pre-salt layer.'
http://www.brasil.gov.br/energia-en/pre-salt/new-reserves/br_model1?set_language=en
This is 'new frontier' work in oil exploration and extraction. I followed closely the geo-analysis work through a great friend's Masters project. The extraction process is new and deeper; the full extraction flows will not appear 'just like magic'. This is hard and costly in this phase. The returns WILL be massive even though the shale alternative alters the projected economic RoR.
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