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UN advisor criticizes Spain’s ‘double standard’ on Gibraltar when it comes to Ceuta and Melilla

Wednesday, August 14th 2013 - 03:29 UTC
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A political adviser on Arab affairs at the UN in New York said Spain operated “double standards” by dismissing Moroccan sovereignty claims over Ceuta and Melilla as unfounded while pursuing its own claim over Gibraltar. Read full article

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  • Musky

    Hypocrites. So Spain, sort your own mess out and leave Gibraltar along.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I support Spain's position on Ceuta and Melilla. They have been Spanish for centuries and the inhabitants support this.

    I apply the same standard to Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    Its going to be very hard for Spain to pursue Gibraltar without leaving itself open to Ceuta et al issues.

    No nation can nowadays trample over the rights of the people who live in these areas anyway, its up to them, not the posturing of economically desperate governments in big countries, using them as nothing more than a distraction.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    In fairness, I doubt that history supports a Moroccan claim to those areas, which Portugal owned before Morocco extended that far north, and which were passed to Spain around the time that Spain and Morocco were one nation.

    That said, the peoples of those Spanish enclaves have the right of self-determination. They appear to wish to stay with Spain - just as the Gibraltarians wish to stay with the UK.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 05:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MrFlagpole

    @4 - The self determination aspect is important. But there is a difference. The populations of Ceuta and Melilla are almost entirely spanish. Where as on Gibraltar people with British ancestry only make up 27% of the population. 24% are of spanish origins. Despite this 99%+ still wish to remain british.

    Ad to that their territories of Penon de Velez de la Gomera, Alhucemas and the Chafarinas Islands.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • True Blue

    @2:
    Anglo posts here pretending to be an Australian but he is not. He is what we true blue Aussies call a 'Pommie Bastard'. He pretends to be Australian to give Australia a bad name. Pommie out!

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    There is a very real possibility that Spain is on the verge of financial collapse. Several Spanish banks are close to bankruptcy and if the Portuguese debt cannot be repaid, then Spain will fall.

    There are already indications that the Catalans and Basques will support Gibraltar if the dispute develops to a conflict. This could mean that Spain will break up into three distinct regions, with Madrid controlling only the centre, north west and and south east.

    It would not be surprising if the areas of Andalusia close to Gibraltar seek to become affiliated with Gibraltar in some way. A sort of larger economic area, thereby guaranteeing the jobs and prosperity of the people of La Linea and Algeciras.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    True Blue - it must be uncomfortable to know that us pommie bastards have just creamed the aussie cricketers.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • True Blue

    @8:
    Couldn't give a dam just as long as you pommie bastards don't try and come to Australia and polute the country.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @9... troll alert...

    its 'damn'

    and nobody in Straya sez 'pommie bastards ' any more....
    so... fuck off Diego

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jeffski

    @9 what a dick head

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    @ 9 True Blue

    “..what we true blue Aussies...” STOP, just stop there. My sides are aching just too much.

    You people haven't a clue how to blag it: you need to get some tips from Argy Sunstroke - now he is good.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishLion

    Double standards, double crossing, double heads...sounds Argentinean or is this Spanish traits or both? They are broke (Spain), they need Britain now more than ever as part of the EU when it comes to bail out time when their banks go into collapse. The ordinary Spanish citizens will not give a toss about a couple of hundred acres of rock when they will have to sell up and move to the UK for a better life like the Polish etc. What a load of nonsense that will end in much blame passing by the snide politicians of Spain. You reap what you sew, are you watching and listening Christina Ferdinand? This is a lesson for you too!

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    The Argentine posters have such weak arguments that they always have to resort to sock puppets and aliases.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    @9 Booked my trip for the Melbourne & Sydney tests 5 months back. Return visit after I was there for the 2010/11 series. That was sweet and before you accuse me of only following a winning team I did Perth/Mel in 2006/7 and Mel/Syd in 2002/3.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @6, 9 Piss off, argie. You're not up to it!

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • True Blue

    @10:
    Listen you pommie bastard if and Australian, who will always be your superior in all circumstances, tells you its 'dam' then you accept that and shut up! You pommie bastards are not the suppositories of all wisdom.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @17
    sign of a pathetic sock puppet - one who has to turn to insults because it has nothing of importance or merit to add to the topic.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • True Blue

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Guys don't waste your time on True Blue.

    He made the fatal trolling mistake of forgetting to change socks before commenting:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/10/rajoy-calls-for-four-flag-dialogue-on-gibraltar-and-does-not-discard-unilateral-measures

    True Blue comes in at post 160 but post 203 is a ripper.

    He isn't Aussie and his other sock John III (Pope) isn't Chinese. And his English language skills aren't as high as he thinks.

    But he is 100% bad at this.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @19
    poor little troll - no need to throw your toys out of the pram!

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • True Blue

    @20:
    Anglo likes to pretend that he is an Australian but he isn't. He is what we true blue Aussies call a 'pommie bastard'. Pommie bastards are regarded as feral in the same way as cane toads and rabbits are regarded as feral. They are subhuman scum!

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @22
    little troll - feeling a little bit better after that little outburst of nonsense?

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • True Blue

    @23:
    Assies do not post nonsense. I would not expect a subhuman pommie bastard like you to understand.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @24
    keep trying little Assies baby troll.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    I believe the UNSC, NATO, and the EU should outlaw ALL IRREDENTIST claims, which are always made in total disregard for the human rights of the inhabitants of claimed territories.

    Philippe

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • knarfw

    @17

    Your Spanish/English Dictionary isn't very good mate. Look up the difference between suppository and repository.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    Spain has and will make a total arse of its self over this and the more Rojoy opens his mouth the deeper he gets

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • True Blue

    @27:
    You pommie bastard. How dare you direspect the future Australian prime minister. If he says its a suppository then that's good enough for your sort.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • knarfw

    @29:

    Clearly, like you, he's full of shit.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    29 True Blue

    Troll?? Hardly. Misguided, maybe. Angry at something, definately.. Troll?? As friend Conqueror points out.... Not up to it.

    A “True Blue” Australian you say??? please don't make me laugh any more than I have already....... and to prove how “Manly” you are, you name yourself after an 80's Madonna album...... WOW!!!

    How is biting that pillow working out for you? with a tag name like that, You have GOT to be somebodies b*tch.........

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    “Your” future PM was born in the UK - moron.

    Really, you are the laziest, stupidest, and most childish Troll we've seen lately.

    Not worth bothering with, Toby.

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @29
    Who's the chairman of the Australian cheese board (in perpetuity) then?

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I see I wasn't the only one to see that Troy!

    Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Casper

    @31:

    The more likely reference is to a John Williamson song of the same name. He was a favourite of Steve Waugh's as I recall. No self respecting Australian would use that I.D. in 2013. Or 'Aussie Sunshine' for that matter. Just my opinion of course...

    Aug 15th, 2013 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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