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UK asks EU to ‘urgently’ send a team to gather evidence on Gibraltar/Spain ‘borders’ row
Britain has asked the EU to “urgently” send a team to Gibraltar “to gather evidence” on extra border checks at the centre of a growing row with Spain. PM David Cameron spoke to EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso to raise “serious concerns” that Spain's actions are “politically motivated”. Read full article
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Aug 16th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get rid off the concrete blocks that the fool Picardo through into the bay and then Spain maybe will ease the border.....
Aug 16th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are they going to check if Gib is a tax heaven, thats what they say??
Aug 16th, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ive heard that there you dont pay taxes when buying and that is also important gambling or sth like that.
*3 cameron: Hello EU??..it is...ummmmm..it is Cameron.....you know the prime minister in The UK....yeah! the one that can´t stand the EU...ummm..yes thats me.....the one who organised the referundum to get out of the EU in 2015...yes, that´s me..the one who blokes all agreements in the EU.....can you do me a favour??!!
Aug 16th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haven't we all chewed this over already?
Aug 16th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain likes pain, nothing knew. Summers silly season and distraction politics.
#4 sunburn, you've been out to long. Cameron's a fake EU sceptic.
@4 argy sunstroke
Aug 16th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“blokes” ? You mean blocks don't you; classic Spa-Eng mistranslation error LOL.
So the EU all hate “zee inglish pig dog swine” do they? Where would Spain be today of it wasn't for all the UK, Germany funding that dragged backward Spain into the 21st century.
We are givers to the EU - your just takers from it. Go ask the Germans, Dutch, etc you they would like to boot from the EU: relax, they have no authority to do it.
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* 6 boy oh boy!! you can spell!! WOW!! You clever boy!! Where did you such clever skills??
Aug 16th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No the one they want to boot out is your Country!! They can´t wait forthe referundum!! HALELUYA!! HALELUYA!! COME OM UKNP!!
ASunshine- a little fact for you- Spain has some 27 or so of these “reefs” in its waters - the one Gibraltar has made is in British Gibraltar Waters - thus nothing for the Spanish to get excited about - except - their fishing boats now cannot “overfish into Gibralatar waters” like they were doing - it will now be a bit expensive in their nets!!
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its is just sour Spanish grapes as they have been stopped poaching illegally.
@7 fake aussie
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You obviously can't spell.
You obviously have no idea about the EU.
And you obviously have no idea just how pig headed the UK can be. WE can outwait Spain forever.
This current Spanish government is fast running out of time, and money.
Won't be long now, and the next time they crawl to the EU looking for another bailout, the UK can veto it.
Spain is finished.
By the way it's Hallelujah. Oh and the EU is crapping itself over the thought of the UK leaving the EU. The UK is a net contributor. That means it gives more money than it takes, unlike Spain that just takes money and doesn't contribute anything. So if the UK leaves, then there is going to be less money around for the sponging countries.
And if the UK leaves, others will leave too. Denmark have already hinted that they would leave if the UK does, and other will follow.
THAT is why the EU is crapping itself over the thought of the UK leaving. The impact on the UK economy will be minimal, but it will impact greatly on the rest of the EU, especially Germany, who will have to foot the lions share of the burden.
By the way, if you're going to pretend to be an aussie, the least you can do is try to spell correctly.
The EU needs to be seen to be doing the right thing here, if they don't, they will certainly alienate the UK public, who will just have it confirmed that the EU doesn't abide by its own rules.
If the EU is smart, they'll rein Spain in quickly and settle this fast.
'Fishermen call a maritime protest against Gibraltar - The artisanal fishing fleet fishing in the waters around Gibraltar and belonging to the confraternity of La Linea de la Concepción (Cádiz) decided on Friday, during a meeting in the port of Atunara summon Algeciras boats conduct a maritime concentration off the coast of Gibraltar. It will be this Sunday from nine. The scene of the protest will be the area where the Gibraltar Government launched last July 24 to 75 concrete blocks that have caused conflict it has faced Executives Spain, UK and Gibraltar.
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After the meeting, attended by a dozen fishermen, Leoncio Fernandez, larger pattern of the Fishermen's Association of La Linea, the most affected by the conflict with Gibraltar, said he expected the participation of about forty ships...'
http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2013/08/16/actualidad/1376685662_715618.html
'Gibraltar Sea projects gain ground - Gibraltar touted as an urbanization project that adentraría maritime territory is not the domain of the British colony. The complex would be called Cape Privileged and would have a hotel and 2,500 apartments and a sports puerdo, as projected...'
http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2013/08/16/actualidad/1376685662_715618.html
*9 I do apologise for my spelling!...but I am a poor lad never went to the best schools...never finished secondary..disgraceful ain´t it!!?? I log on to this forum to lLEARN yes LEARN from the wise lads who write English so well..like you!! Give me time!! I am learning!!
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, just to point out another mistake, I think you meant to say in your first post that “the fool Picardo THREW the blocks into the bay” not THROUGH.
You're a bit of a dick really aren't you, what a shame you don't go and THROUGH yourself under a lorry!!
*12 Oh dear!! did you have a bad day at work?! but thanks for the spelling lesson....keep ..em coming. BUT I am confused do I go THROUGH under a lorry or THREW under a lorry?!!
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sarcasm was implied you illiterate fool, by the way, I can see right THROUGH you.
*14 ” You can!?? MY!! MY!! How do you do it? bloody genius!
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0share the secret!!
@15
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No secret, i'm not a genius, i'm not a gynecologist either, but I know a cunt when I see one.
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Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are too stupid to talk to, i've had my fun, now run 'along' - oh, that's the correct usage of the word, you maybe need to check your post again :-)
*18 Get laid!! Britworker!! I sense stress in your post!! sex is the medicine my man!! you´ll be relaxed in no time........
Aug 16th, 2013 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lovely picture above of PM Camoron calling EU for help now :-)))
Aug 16th, 2013 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What has Spain gained?
Aug 16th, 2013 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing so far!
Still waiting.......
4 aussie sunshine :-))))))))))
Aug 16th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anglo
Aug 16th, 2013 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's the scoop on “Aussie Sunshine”??
Camoron: Oouuuhhh Barroso, please help me against those damn spanierds.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Barroso: Uhmm, what's in for me?
Camoron: Ooouhhhh, well well, how about that I'll make sure that those dumb f'ers keep us, The UK, in the EU.
Barroso: Okay, go on, what else?
Camoron: Oooouuhh oh damn you, okay okay, I'll regulate those (zombie) banks through the EU (no he won't) and continue with our austerity plans.
Barroso: Excellent, I'll see what I can do for you my boy...lolz.
Camoron: Oouuuhhhh..oh help me help me help meee..damn those spanierds.
Tututu Barroso the clown hanged up.
Troy.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's five guys on here claiming to be Aussie:
Me - consistent background which not a single person has refuted
Frank - who knows enough details of out of the way places like Craigieburn for me to believe him
Heisenbergcontext - well he can't get time zones right, didnt know what country he was born in and supposedly hasn't left Australia for 30 years because he lost his birth certificate
True Blue - also John Pope III - speaks good English but calls himself a “native Australian” and could spot an Americanism a mile off. Was never convincing and his failure to change his login was quite a FAIL
Aussie sunshine - while he isn't an Aussie I would say he has spent considerable time here. It was not uncommon for European immigrants to return back to Europe when times got better in countries such as Italy, Greece and Spain. You'll note his careful to not claim to be an actual Aussie. As he mainly comments on Gibraltar articles and his use of syntax and misspelling of words together with confusion with homophones shows that his native tongue is Spanish. He does live there so I'd say he's a Spaniard. Again another person who is too ashamed to admit their nationality. I don't understand it myself. He has no doubts I'm an Aussie though and native to Melbourne after he challenged me to identify the buildings in a 30 year old music video.
Aussie sunshine isn't a sockpuppet not does he operate any. True Blue and Heisenbergcontext are though.
And though I am accused of being many things; not a single one is proven.
'Spain protested to London, asking the EU under the Rock - The Spanish government yesterday presented a verbal note of protest to the UK for the construction of a pier in the cove east of Gibraltar, in an area where it is planned to build a building complex known as “Eastside Project 'or' Cape Privileged ', for what is expected to build two breakwaters and therefore sand weights, thereby gaining land to sea.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Spanish government considers it inadmissible action, also from the environmental point of view to understand who may be violating environmental directives of the European Union, an issue that is being studied in depth...'
http://www.laregion.es/noticia/262410/espana/protesta/londres/amparo/penon/
'The ”fishing fleet” stands up to the Royal Navy'
http://www.laregion.es/noticia/262410/espana/protesta/londres/amparo/penon/
Ahh, thanks.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tru Blu - never a doubt he was a 'plant' - stank a mile away!!
A.ussie S.unS.hine - exposed himself as one of the Opposition, a year ago, but I wondered about his occasional spouting of knowledge and occasional postings that were civil and a bit reasonable. Wasn't sure about the' Melbourne 'exchange.
A.S.S. seemed to have resorted to form, however.
I got the feeling that Think tried one on with Heisenthingmy, but just got bored and tired of the effort.
Appreciate the summation :-)
Do you get the feeling that the “Voice” puppet is getting really impatient and angry with events and the troublesome Brit-sympathising posters who won't be accepting or intimidated by him??
He'll be put away on the “shelf” before long, when he becomes too ineffective.
Cheers!
Some of these 'special needs' argie-latin-spanish posters on here that can't expose their true nationality don't realise how easily they identify themselves.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0With respect to UK action, they can only comment on the way a maniacal latin leader would deal with the situation. They don't understand subtlety and achieving a tactical advantage before you strike your blows. Shouting and screaming is not our style. Spain is incredibly vulnerable financially at the moment, that is where will put the first knife in.
I hope spain makes the most of this years UK tourism.......at this rate its about to end in more ways than one, I wonder how much of their archaic racist tantrums will eventually have cost their already dire economy? and all for nothing :)
Aug 17th, 2013 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0sound familiar???
Greece, Portugal, Gibraltar, Cyprus just a few alternative and more appreciative and far less discriminatory destinations.
Uk is doing this the legal way through EU that's the key, and that's why the trolls mock it.
@4 why, its gibraltars waters? spain has no right to use economical interference I think you will find that is also against UN human rights, as you will soon see.
Christ these troll's on here appear to be pre-teen (as opposed to nausiating adolescents) judging by their childish responses.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 05:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Especially when they realise they can't fool anyone in to thinking they come from where they say they do........
@28 Britworker
Aug 17th, 2013 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“they can only comment on the way a maniacal latin leader would deal with the situation”
Agreed. They believe that a politician can only achieve something if they are shouting and screaming and foaming at the mouth. They don't understand the quiet patience that most other countries use.
So the electorate in these Latin countries believe that their politicians are actually doing something by shouting and creating a noise, whereas we all know that they are achieving nothing, and humiliating the countries that they represent. And they the electorate wonders why their countries are in such dire financial straits.
Yelling about something and ACTUALLY doing something about a situation are too completely different things.
Talk, as they say, is cheap. It doesn't require any planning, or money or any action, as long as the 'people' believe that action is taking place.
Action, however, costs money. Something Spain is lacking in spades.
gib registered cars a burning at the bprder on the Spanish side.The Anti English climax will spread against anything British On Spanish soil....It is a pity!!
Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you think Spain is going to risk losing the income from million British tourists, your are even more stupid than you appear to be.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0#32
Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain is the one who is going to lose most. Turkey is now a very popular country with British tourists. Much cheaper than Spain and the natives are friendly.
As has been said before, Spain can make life uncomfortable for Gib. but they managed to get through serious trouble in WW2.
The UK could seriously shaft Spain economically if it so desired....no military action required.
@32 fake aussie
Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0It would be a pity...for Spain.
British tourists can always go to other countries: Portugal, Cyprus, Greece, Italy and so on and so forth.
Britain can always buy it's tomatoes from other countries.
But where will Spain find several million tourists to 'plug the hole' in their economy created by the lack of British tourists?
Germany? I doubt it. Russia? I very much doubt it.
And just who will they sell their tomatoes too? Portugal? They already export most of their own tomatoes, they won't want Spanish ones. France? Ditto. And so on and so forth.
As we can see, the only country that is ACTUALLY being hurt by the Spanish Governments childish antics is Spain.
The UK and Gibraltar play the long game. This current Spanish government is lurching from one crises to the next. They are running out of time, as is the Spanish economy.
Tick tock, tick tock.
And when it's all over, and the Spanish are crawling to the EU for more bailout money, the UK could (if we felt spiteful) veto the cash.
Even if we didn't veto, Germany would insist on draconian measures. Just look what happened in Cyprus, with people having their savings raided.
Yet Gibraltar will continue, as it has for the last 300 years, and one day, when the time is right for them, they will declare themselves an independent nation.
And don't give us that Treaty of Utrecht crap about Spain automatically gaining sovereignty when the British leave. That Treaty was superseded by the UN Charter in 1945.
Superseded means that the Spanish cannot use the Treaty of Utrecht to claim anything at all, as the UN Charter gives ALL people the UNIVERSAL right to self-determination.
And that is what frightens Spain the most.
@2 Do you know the difference between “through” and “threw”? The blocks are in British Gibraltar Territorial Waters. A FACT that spain had to accept when it signed up to UNCLOS.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 No-one will be doing any “booting”. Perhaps you didn't notice. a few months back, Germany begging Britain not to leave the EU?
@20 How do you know? It's not a videophone. How can you tell from a picture of a telephone who made the call and to whom? Such an ignorant buffoon. Have you got your appointment to visit the graveyard yet? Big day for you. Getting fitted with a brain. Have you argies figured out yet that getting fitted with a dead brain doesn't work? I guess not. Perhaps if you tried the recently-dead ones!
@24 Poor little doggie. How you like your fantasies. I suppose you have to have something to relieve the misery of your “life”. Have you thought of getting a job? Perhaps you'd stop feeling so inadequate.
@29 Have to say I agree with you. It's a bit of a shame because, a few years back, I found the beach at Tarifa. Absolutely beautiful and unspoilt. No ranks of sunbeds and umbrellas. No beach “sellers”. But then spain started getting tyrannical again. Can't go back as I need my car. Won't drive through spain and even the ferry from Morocco is spanish.
32 Definitely a reason not to take a car into spain. Any British car would be worth more than half of spain. More losses for the spanish “economy”. Think I'll go for Italy instead! Only 1,210 miles to Rome.
@33 I think you're mistaken. Spain is incredibly stupid. It should take less than a hour to totally destroy any spanish “claim” to Gibraltar and its territorial waters. A few minutes to destroy the Utrecht hypothesis. Perhaps half an hour to trace the evolution of “territorial waters”. The remainder of the time could be spent outlining the methods used to determine how much compensation spain should pay. I reckon £80,000 per hour would be about right.
I am sure it will disappoint the trolls, but no mention of this spat in The Times today. It's off the radar... As for me, its like Rg wine and fruit, boycott it. So, no Spanish wine, fruit or onions now either.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, the fabled European brotherhood... ahahahaha. Matter of time before they all start murdering each other again. Can't change 3000 years of obvious genetic predisposition with 60 years of imposed detente.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Idiot!
Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 38 TTT
Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0When I think back to when I first came onto MP you stood out from the argie trolls as someone young and intelligent with a will to learn, albeit strongly Argentine. That was fair enough it is your country after all.
But look at what you have become: a troll who either does not understand the implied concepts in what they are reading, but are prepared to say the most ludicrous things that do not stand up to any sensible thought OR an obfuscator of the truth very similar to the “master” at it, The Bitter And Twisted Old Twat Of Chew Butt.
At least Think has a small excuse, he is at least 80 years old if his other posts have some measure of truth in them. You on the other hand have no excuse.
@38 Nostrils
Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is predominately European just like you. Give it up. Europe didn't invent war or killing or colonialism.
You speak a European language, live in a European derived society, use European inventions such as the Internet and study in a European style university system.
Your country has a European streak of fascism bubbling under the surface and purchases European weapons. Indeed the least European part of Argentina is its lack of innovation and its ongoing tendency to slip into autocratic rule.
You live in a glass house with severely rotting timbers and are imbecilic enough to show stones.
I am not European, how many times do I have to repeat that?
Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have never killed.
Don't get mad at my very accurate message just because the Wallabies got trounced at home.
Tobi, plead repeat it again, we love it when you lie!
Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@42 Tobias
Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Every time you look in the mirror your European features say it all. You are European. A Causcasian. A white man. You have denied this often, claiming (erroneously) to be native Amerindian, only to reveal your true colours, when you attack the native Amerindians whom you claim to come from. You are European, and that shoots all of your 'so called' arguments out of the water.
Every time you open your mouth to speak, your European language says it all. Your European customs says it all. Every time you use a European invention, says it all.
Every time you spout your crap, you make yourself look even more foolish.
You have never killed. I believe that.
I have never killed. Most people have never killed.
The difference between us, is that you are a hypocrite who refuses to acknowledge the truth.
Britain was a colonial power.
Spain was a colonial power.
Argentina WANTS to be a colonial power.
The real difference is that Britain and Spain were quite good at the old colonialism game, Argentina is crap.
And please remember every time you spout on about European colonialism, the colonists are in the America's. The none colonialists stayed in Europe.
But never mind Spain will soon split into smaller countries, Catalonia, Basque and so on and so forth and their pain will be over, and a new horizon will appear.
Well said LEPR,
Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's only kidding himself. Disregard.
Spain wasnt that good at being a colonial power - it ended up giving most of it away.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina wont be any good at being a colonial power, as its not very good at anything other than throwing tantrums and lying to its own population (most of whom appear to be self-delusional in not knowing they are european stock with no rights whatsoever to the land they are occupying)
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OAT:
What does “In perpetuity” translate as in Spanish?
46 Anbar
Aug 17th, 2013 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It's not yours”.
:o)
Aussie Sunshine, go away and don't shame our Australian nation with your silly diatribes. If you do actually live in Australia, you should know by now that the links between our nation and Britain run very deep and your comments would only be supported by fringe leftist elements, including some leftist losers who arrived here from South America as refugees back in the 1970's and early 1980's.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibralter like the Falklands deserves respect. I note lately EUFA has recognised the Gibralter Football Federation which means it can now compete in European competitions much to the dislike of their Spanish neighbours who tried their best to frustrate this happening.
The Bottom line is the Spanish economy is up the creek and like their Argentine compatriots is looking for a distraction from their more serious problems. For example youth unempoyment and unemeployment in general is deplorable. Yes, perhaps Argentina and Spain and can make very good bedfellows at this time as they both go down to the toilet.
In reality, Spain should be happy about Gibralter's existence as it aids their tourism industry as international visitors to Gibralter are more than likely to visit the neighbouring Spanish areas as well.
Truth Telling Troll
Aug 17th, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no doubt that the Europeans were colonialists.
However, today 90%+ of those who call themselves British either live in land that has been considered Britain for millennia, or land that was empty when we found it (e.g. The Falklands)
There are small exceptions where migrated populations have become the majority and elected to stay British (e.g. northern Ireland, Gibraltar)
The ABSOLUTE REVERSE is true for Argentina. 90%+ of people who call themselves Argentine live on land that they stole within the last 500 years, and expanded again in the 1880s, and tried again in 1982...and are still trying.
So, if you want to compare the 60million British alive today, living in a homeland they've had for millennia, or the the 40million Argentines living on stolen (through genocide) Amerindian land, and still wishing to expand....
I would suggest your view of who out of the two of us are the colonialists, is somewhat misguided.
@38 Why point at Europe? How long have you been murdering? And still murdering today. Have you not been murdering for at least 400 years? Do you not walk on the blood and bones of those that you have murdered every day? We learned, you haven't!
Aug 17th, 2013 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 Denial is a wonderful thing. You can deny anything you want. But 86.4% of argieland is European. Of the rest, 6.5% are part European, part Amerindian. So let's say 90% European. Never killed, you say. Ever swatted a fly? Carefully examined where you put your feet? And what about the difference between the actual act and the responsibility? I don't believe Hitler ever directly killed anyone. But how many deaths was he responsible for. But you carry on kidding yourself. Murderer!
Tobi, Spain was a colonial nation, it founded your country Argentina which was stolen from the Indians. You are European by descent. Spain lost it all and became almost a third world nation. In October the countries of the Commonwealth of nations, 54 of them, will compete along with 17 other teams from British Overseas territories in the Commonwealth Games. Spain has no such friendly links with its old possessions. About one quarter of the worlds population now speaks English like you and lots more young people are learning. It's the language of business, finance, the air and the sea. Spain is a failing state desperate to divert attention, just like Argentina.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wake up and smell the coffee...
@7
Aug 17th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“No the one they want to boot out is your Country!! ”
Hardly, if the UK leave the EU it will be in deep shit as the UK is one of the highest contributors-even if they don't like the UK, the EU will not want us out.
Perhaps digger, you have an idea of a country that could replace the UK-one with money?
That country isn't Spain, that's a certainty as Spain mostly sponges of the EU, strangely like Argentina, though it goes down the borrow money but don't repay it route which amounts to the same thing. Spongers.
Spain 'manufactured' Gibraltar dispute, says chief minister - Gibraltar's Chief Minister has said the growing row between the UK and Spain is a “manufactured dispute”...'
Aug 17th, 2013 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23738583
'Ukip MEP William Dartmouth calls for royal visit to Gibraltar - A UKIP MEP wants the royal family to get involved in the Gibraltar dispute to indicate how strongly Britain stands behind the island's citizens...'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23738583
......“'Ukip MEP William Dartmouth calls for royal visit to Gibraltar”
Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For goodness sake don't send Charles......he's inherited his fathers traits.
I can imagine how that would go.....
“Good grief what are all these Dago's doing here, I thought Gibraltar was British?”
“It must be dangerous to let your children climb all over that rock?
”Ermm .....they are monkeys your highness!”
The trick is to give him a plant to talk to and a jar of marmite.....keep him happy!
We will not have to sleep with your fucking threats bully!! pirate fat, why you do not send a couple war ships to continue with the threats to EU!!! maybe help you, fat!!!
Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils @42
Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I am not European, how many times do I have to repeat that?
I have never killed.
Don't get mad at my very accurate message just because the Wallabies got trounced at home.”
Wel live never killed anyone either. And my family has lived in the Southern Hemisphere longer than yours. Your first generation Argentine. I'm 3rd through to about 8th-hard to know.
As for the Wallabies????? I live in an Aussie Rules state! What would I care? I don't even know who they are playing or where. If you travelled and saw the world instead of just googling and passively soaking up narrow perspectives you would know things like that.
*51 Here read something and learn. Spain and Portugal do have a commonwealth called The Ibero American Countries which together every November.
Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Iberoamericana
*52 Great Britain has lost all credibility within the EU.
www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/john-downing-cameron-has-lost-all-allies-political-credibility-and-what-residual-goodwill-britain-had-in-europe-29022445.
@57 fake suntan
Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is there a movement in Spain, Italy, Greece to leave the EU? LOL, like sh1t there is. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas do they.
Not sure your age or maturity but please don't be offended: basically modern Spain as you know it - like the big infrastructure stuff - was only possible because of the EU NET CONTRIBUTORS putting their hand in their pockets to drag you up. The idea been that we can all sell/buy more stuff, become richer, if there are less peasants in the market place.
You and Greece are considered as runts in this sense, sucking off the generous EU teet.
At least you got some decent modern Talgo routes - among other stuff - the Greeks just p1ssed it up the wall.
Let me shed some perspective on this reef / border dispute .....
Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain has nearly 3000 km of coastline and the area where the blocks were laid is no more than a few football pitches and is within spitting distance from the Gibraltar runway ... a couple of Spanish fishermen have been dredging the floor for scallops and making a mess,
Spain has laid hundreds of these reefs in order to stop it's own fishermen from doing exactly the same as they are doing in Gibraltar. ... scraping the bottom for anything they can sell .
There are Spanish owned trawlers registered in the UK so they can fish British quotas and back handers are rife at MercoCadiz fish market where officials turn a blind eye to over fishing and laugh in the face of the other EU members
Gibraltar dispute: Spanish fishermen to protest - Spanish fishermen are due to sail out later to protest near the spot where Gibraltar's government has placed 70 concrete blocks, in the disputed waters near the British territory...'
Aug 18th, 2013 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23744559
'British residents in Vigo see the 'Gibraltar case' as a distraction -They agree that it is a political issue used as a 'smokescreen' by both governments to divert attention...'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23744559
'Gibraltar and ... 13 more - The overseas territories are UK tax havens, strategic bases or colonial reminiscences that provide significant benefits to London
Cayman Islands, the Virgin Islands, Anguilla and Montserrat, among other enclaves, remain under British possession...'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23744559
well!! interesting to find that Princess Diana was probably killed by the SAS.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who is running GB? The government or the SS just like in Hitler´s Germany. And what really behind the assasination of Charles de Menezes??
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/422915/SAS-link-to-Princess-Diana-s-death
Yes gib is a hangover from Empire but the people seem to be happy with the way it is. Much like ceuta and the other place.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the Spanish were serious they would hand back ceuta and the other bits of morroco they have which would compeletly undermine Gibs case but as they wont jog on.
and what really happened to Diana´s bodyguard BARRY MANNAKEE?
Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0was he also exterminated by the British SS?
@63 - fake aussie
Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0So now you're changing the subject. A sure sign that you know you have lost your argument (such as it was).
Keep to the script.
@63 fake suntan. BUZZZZZZ.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Deviation and Repetition”. Nil points. Try again in the next round: also try learning from your mistakes.
Off you go now, Chef wants some more onions chopped.
TWIMC (and them brainwashed Anglo Turnips)
Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are NOT the successive Spanish governments that blow up the Gibraltar Issue in moments of internal crisis…..
There are Gibraltar’s Local English Authorities that take advantage of the internal Spanish crisis to violate International Treaties with their “Salami Slicing ” & “Fait Accompli” policies….
They did it in 1938 the midst of the Spanish Civil War, when they constructed the Airport on the Istm…..
They are doing it today, in the midst of the Spanish Economic Crisis, throwing cement blocks on both sides of the Rock……
On the Westside to “Protect the Fishes”….., as they say and on the Eastside to construct luxury apartments and berths* for the tax dodgers, the smugglers, the banksters and other dodgy types of English rubble that reside in that anachronic colonial enclave and tax haven called Gibraltar…..
*(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAiNTmwVIKs)
@66 Think
Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0You nailed it again Think. “zee inglish [spit] pig dog swine [spit]” together with the Illuminati (just a front for the Royal Family) and their hidden tentacles are the root cause of all that is rotten in Spain and LatAm.
Keep your eyes peeled for them Sepoys. They are everywhere...
With our youtube and conspiracy channel we will destroy them. Keep up the good work Think.
#66 Yapper
Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you are accusing Gibraltar of employing spanish practices on the spanish, so to speak. Is that against the rules?
Jajajajaja!
Tick tock
Yes Think whatever.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's Gibraltar that caused the Spanish Civil War.
It's Gibraltar that caused the Spanish Economic Crisis.
And what pray tell was Gibraltar doing in Spain when the border was closed between 1969 and 1982?
Don't tell me.... Franco was Gibraltar's fault too.
it's about time Spain and Argentina grew up, your like a bunch of moaning whinging children.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC (and them brainwashed Anglo Turnips).....
Aug 18th, 2013 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to be that the honourable UKIP MEP for South West England and Gibraltar, Mr. William Dartmouth, wants Prince Harry and Prince Willy to visit Gibraltar to mark the 300’th anniversary of English usurpation……..
Will they be coming in choppers???
@ 71 Think
Aug 18th, 2013 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Princes, as you know, are reptoids from the Draco constellation and will thus likely teleport in for this shindig.
Whow, 300 hundred years! You'd think the Spanish would have got the message that the Gibs are just not into them by now. What was your great, great, great, granddaddy doing 300 hundred years ago? Pulling out the silver teeth of some poor sod in a grass skirt in Río de la Plata no doubt!
(Nice work on the MEP reference ;) - your bog roll allowance for next month is now secured. )
Ozzie Turnip at (69)
Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say…:
“Don't tell me.... Franco was Gibraltar's fault too.”
I say….:
I usually avoid interacting with unmature flirting rainbow Turnips but…......… now that you mention a issue of my special interest….:
“Franco’s Friends
Peter Day details the bribes, the plots and the moral dilemmas behind one of the most dubious acts ever carried out by the British government in the name of self-interest.”
https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/franco-s-friends-paperback
Anyway……... A beauty of a plane…. They don’t make them like these anymore….
Enjoy!
https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/franco-s-friends-paperback
@ 73 Think
Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's life buddy: the strong dominate the weak:
“zee inglish” stuck it to the Spanish.
The Spanish stuck it to Morocco.
“argentina” stuck it to the Amerindian, Mapuche etc.
Stop whining about what happened 200+ years sonny. If not, then grow some. Your ancestors had some, appears you don't.
awww.. “think” is being argumentative again :) got to love the troll, he's got staying power (ever if he's got no argument).
Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 066thinko
Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0”They are doing it today, in the midst of the Spanish Economic Crisis, throwing cement blocks on both sides of the Rock……
On the Westside to “Protect the Fishes”….., as they say and on the Eastside to construct luxury apartments and berths* for the tax dodgers, the smugglers, the banksters and other dodgy types of English rubble that reside in that anachronic colonial enclave and tax haven called Gibraltar…..
*(www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAiNTmwVIKs)”
Sorry Thinko
They, the Gibs, can all run around naked and sing Hallelujah, if they like. It's their land, not Spain's.
Good day to you. Calm down.
@54 Why do we put up with you farts? If Charles has inherited his father's traits, so much the better. Prince Philip served, during World War 2, with some distinction, at the front line, in the Indian Ocean, the Mediterranean and the Pacific. Prince Charles, in addition to normal service, he can pilot various fixed and rotary wing aircraft and can also command naval vessels. And has. And what have you done?
Aug 18th, 2013 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@55 We don't want you to sleep. Why don't you come out and fight like men? Instead of hiding behind traffic queues. Little nuisance poachers. Thugs. Mouthy twats like Margallo and tinboy. Both of whom could set records for running a mile. And the warships will be there soon. Here's a question for you to ponder. Will they have authorisation to open fire?
@57 Perhaps this link would have been better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Ibero-American_States A little made-up 22-country organisation. Why is that latinos always have to copy? And a 7-month old article from an Irish rag? Ireland is an EU pawn and irrelevant.
@61, 63 Desperate, eh? Diversion. So pitiful.
@66 Ahh, the typical argie ploy. Revise the history. Gibraltar's airstrip was opened in 1939. It was an emergency airfield for the Fleet Air Arm. And the Spanish Civil War ended on 1 April 1939. And the waters belong to Gibraltar. Where's the mention of Spanish “territorial waters” in the Treaty of Utrecht? Therefore, using spain's argument, spain has no territorial waters. And Gibraltar will create reefs wherever it wants. Peabrain.
@71 Coming to chop off your head! Or would you prefer the garotte?
@73 What's your problem? We always use natives if possible. Because they are pretty dumb. Admittedly, latinos are more stupid than most. It's just a case of using the psychology. Latinos need to think they can “beat the system”. Actually, they have trouble beating a carpet. Ever seen a latino win anything without cheating? 14 June 1982. Should have shot the lot. And bombed BA.
The blocks are in Gibraltar's territorial waters (as defined by the 1982 Laws of the Sea)
Aug 18th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They stay
End of....
think..... stop acting like a child and go back to Italy and give SA back to the indians, we don't like people like you, who usurp land. You almost got away with usurping the Falklands from Britain in 1832 and 1982.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Greenpeace happen to support the reef project.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0odd that.
perhaps its because the Spanish fisherman had been doing what they do best?
(Destroying entire marine ecosystems by over-fishing)
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“”“”“and what really happened to Diana´s bodyguard BARRY MANNAKEE? was he also exterminated by the British SS?”“””
Well if nothing else does, that does prove you're a loon. :-O
A loon??
Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, a deliberate distractor from the subject, if he isn't.
I “Think” the development in the link is TMBOA retirement fund.
Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is definitely how she sees herself: big, brazen and orange coloured on top of the facing cement.
But 2008? Bit behind the eight ball again, eh, you old twat.
British off Gibraltar:
Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ojodigital.com/foro/attachments/flora-y-fauna/21616d1209402218-mono-de-gibraltar-monogrito.jpg
Spanish Gibraltar as Mlavinas Argentinas, in the list of territories to decolonize, idiots.
Mlavinas Argentina's Josey? What is that?
Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it like Atlantis? If it is a ship, we will be pleased to sink it...except Argie ships sink by themselves? If you think we are stupid enough to click on a link provided by you. You are even more stupid than you already seem! We have no colonies, the last ones gained independence in the 1960s. You are out of date.
We throw concrete blocks to safeguard marine creatures, you throw nuns and ordinary people out of aircraft to feed the sharks. Looks like our intentions are the same but I think you are cruel and illegal.
73 Think
Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Unmature flirting rainbow Turnips”
First its IMMATURE - but thank you anyway that's a compliment.
Second I'd rather cut it off than flirt with you. I'm not into wrinkly sagging arses.
Third raising my sexuality again. Not only didn't you learn the last time I gave you a walloping when you did that, I see I annoy you so much that you are totally incapable of finding any other way of attacking me. LOL out and proud and stuck right up your nose. No matter how much you pick, you can't dislodge this turnip so sit there and take it.
But at least we see why you ignore me so much on here.
But nice to see that you accept that Gibraltar is the TRUE politically and economic power on the Iberian peninsula and that Madrid is usually forced to run around reacting or doing the bidding.
Coming from Argentina, it is hardly surprising that you believe this. After all the English Empire has always had, and continues to have, such a disproportionate and powerful influence on the weak economic and governmental institutions that you live under. But Argentina finally learnt her place and it seems as pain needs a refresher now from the real power: The English Empire.
anyone see the picture of an Argie in comment 83?
Aug 18th, 2013 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 083
Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“British off Gibraltar:”
Sounds like an “Ozzie” that I know.
Ain't that right, Bluey???
@ 86 Falkland Islands
Aug 19th, 2013 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Certainly not a governing RG politician, looks far to intelligent for that!
TROLLS (AND MERCOPRESS) DAY OFF
Aug 19th, 2013 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a public holiday in RGland today.....Pretty conclusive evidence as to where both originate from. I 'Think' Mercopress is published by the Argeninean resistance!
#83
Aug 19th, 2013 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0British OFF Gibraltar. Almost correct. HMS Westminster sailed into the bay about 2 hours ago and has now docked. The British are IN Gibraltar, as well as the Falklands. What can YOU do about it apart from troll and cry into your choripan ?
SOD ALL.!!!!!!!!!
@83 How about this? The spanish get Gibraltar. In return, Britain and Gibraltar get spain. What about it? As for your link, I have to admit that it's a pretty good likeness of many spaniards. Did you have anyone in particular in mind? I don't think Margallo has enough hair. Rajoy might be a better option. although he seems be trying to look like Lenin. Unlike Lenin, he already has his “Cheka” formed. The Guardia Civil. They were formed to put down “restive peasantry”. Present-day spaniards might want to take note, because they are the “peasants”. Their remit is pretty wide. Best classified as government-organised thuggery.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately for the GC, a “big boy” has now arrived. HMS Westminster has many “diplomatic” features. A 4.5 inch main gun. A 32 Sea Wolf anti-air missile launcher. 2 quad Harpoon missile launchers. 2 twin anti-submarine torpedo launchers. 30mm automated guns. Miniguns. GPMGs. And a Lynx or Merlin helicopter gunship.
Can you use your imagination? Imagine a Harpoon anti-ship missile hitting an “official spanish thugs” boat. How about if one hit a poacher boat? Either would just “disappear”. Perhaps it would be a good idea if HMS Westminster took a leisurely sail around spain's illegitimate “territorial waters”. Let's say about a mile offshore. Spanish “territorial waters” aren't mentioned in the Treaty of Utrecht, so they don't exist! How appropriate that HMS WESTMINSTER has been chosen. Incidentally, the spanish navy is half the size of the Royal Navy. Might be best if they followed the argie example and cowered in port. Mind you, it didn't save the French navy in 1940.
The Falkland Islands and Gibraltar are British. There are options. They could become independent and associated with Britain so that there are defence treaties. Or that they could remain as they are. Little enclaves of freedom and democracy. And Britain will defend that. To the death of any belligerents. Take argieland and spain together. Pitiful relics.
'Jose Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commission, has told Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy that it would be “illegal” to impose a fee for crossing the Gibraltar border as Madrid has proposed.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Barroso urged Spain to “respect the law of the European Union” in his telephone conversation with Mr Rajoy, and appealed for “dialogue” between the Spanish and British governments, spokesman Olivier Bailly said at a news conference in Brussels.
“The Commission hopes that these two member states hold dialogue as members of the European Union. It also falls to them to find a solution and overcome obstacles,” Mr Bailly said according to Europa Press.'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/gibraltar/10251704/Gibraltar-British-ships-sail-in-for-war-games-amid-sovereignty-row-live.html
@85
Aug 19th, 2013 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar
GDP : 1 billion
Per capita: 27.000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar
GDP: 1.4 TRILLION
Per capita: 30.000
“Gibraltar is the TRUE politically and economic power on the Iberian peninsula”
You trully need to check into a hospital. Your problem isn't congenital or psychiatric. There must be an amoeba in your brain at this point to spout such nonsense in face of the numbers above.
“Barroso here!
Aug 19th, 2013 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rajoy, old sport, you know I told you I'm head of the European Union and we control everything that goes on in the EU,
... well, we can't actually stop the Rockies chucking bits of concrete into the sea.
... No, we can't stop you doing intimate body searches on all the lads and lasses at the Crossing either
... I know, I know I said we controlled everything, but come on, help us out here, it's got to look like we control things!
... Tell you what, how about a bit more EU money, we should be able to hide it in the Budget.”
“Oh, alright then .. a lot more money. OK?”
@93 Tobias
Aug 19th, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the other hand Spain 100 billion Euro's to the EU, as well as other foreign debts.
It's trade deficit is 10% and growing. Unemployment is 30% and growing.
Spain is NOT in a good place right now.
You are very naive. Just because something looks the bigger number on the surface doesn't necessarily mean it's better off.
You have to look at the whole package.
Added to this is possible fines if Spain is considered in breach of European law regarding Gibraltar.
A sure sign of a country's economic situation tends to be an increase in economic emigration. That means Spanish people moving to other countries looking for jobs. That means that these Spanish people are paying taxes in THOSE other countries and not in Spain. That means that the Spanish government will get less money, as more people move.
That means it's overall debt will take longer to pay off, and the interest will accrue.
In comparison, Gibraltar has 2% unemployment, very little external debt, and it's trade with Spain supports 12.2% of the local GDP in the Campo de Gibraltar region. Gibraltar imports £174 million goods and services from Spain.
So by blocking the border the Spanish government is actually hurting Spain far more than the people of Gibraltar. After all, Gibraltar can always get it's goods and services from other countries, who will only be too happy to accept the money.
In short, Tobias, you really don't know what you are actually talking about.
@93
Aug 19th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0How much of that wealth is produced by the only Spanish region that is doing well ie Catalonia-who want independence from Spain by the way?
And unlike Spain they banned Bullfighting-typical Spain-can only attack people and creatures weaker than themselves and they dress up like ponced up fairies to do so-wait till the UK really loses its temper-Spain will wheelspin in the bog as fast as it likes if British tourists desert Spain.
I notice, ( though Spain generating this anti-British hate may not be responsible), that Spanish Tomatoes are not shifting as quickly as usual in Tescos, and Lidls. and I have heard a few un-seeming mutters as shoppers see the Spanish label and put them back.
Reference @LEPRecon
“On the other hand Spain 100 billion Euro's to the EU, as well as other foreign debts.”
As you are into 'truth' Mr Patrol, how much money does Gibraltar owe the EU, or for that matter, anyone?
Gibraltar imports more from Spain than Spain imports from Gibraltar-Gibraltar gives Spaniards more jobs than Spain gives Gibraltarians.
If Spain won't supply Gibraltar, I'm sure Morocco will oblige, and how stupid is Spain going to look if Gibraltar and the UK support Morocco's claim to the Spanish colonies that are breaking Morocco's territorial integrity?
@93
Aug 19th, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Check your facts and read the links that you post
“$” and “£”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar
Per capita: £27.000 = $42.000
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain
Per capita: $30.000
You should check with your optician.
SLIGHTLY OFFTOPIC:
Aug 19th, 2013 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jingoistic British journo is forced to agree in the face of evidence: Britain is a cesspit of lawlessness and self-righteous roguery.
“Britain is now a police state when it comes to journalists, just like Russia is.
”In this respect, I can say this to David Cameron. Thank you for clearing the air on these matters of surveillance. You have now demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that these anti-terror provisions are capable of rank abuse. Unless some other facts emerge, there is really no difference in kind between you and Vladimir Putin. You have used police powers granted for anti-terrorism and deployed them to target and intimidate journalists deemed enemies of the state.
“You have proven that these laws can be hideously abused. Which means they must be repealed. You have broken the trust that enables any such legislation to survive in a democracy. By so doing, you have attacked British democracy itself.”
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/08/18/cameron-proves-greenwald-right/
@ 98 Forgetit8
Aug 19th, 2013 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, you're deffo off topic here. Looks like a typical SOP “whataboutery” post.
One more and you are out this round on the Deviation rule.
“how stupid is Spain going to look if Gibraltar and the UK support Morocco's claim to the Spanish colonies that are breaking Morocco's territorial integrity?”
Aug 19th, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0You would look stupid, actually beyond stupid, since the people in those Spanish “colonies” are't even Spanish mostly morrocans and they want to stay as things are.
So once again, you just proved the UK doesn't give a fark about self-determination as it is willing to side with Morocco against the wishes of the people. True to form shall we say.
Anyway, I'm not here to defend Spain so this is my last comment about this.
What has this article to do with Mercosul?
Aug 19th, 2013 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@100
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So once again, you just proved the UK doesn't give a fark about self-determination as it is willing to side with Morocco against the wishes of the people”
The angered opinion of one commentator is hardly the opinion of Her Majesties Britannic government, is it?
@100 The Truth PaTroll
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So once again, you just proved the UK doesn't give a fark about self-determination as it is willing to side with Morocco against the wishes of the people. True to form shall we say.”
Chillax Toby. You think anonymous comments on here reflect and direct UK's current or future policies!!!
(Your not Tinmann are you? Nooooo way!)
(I'm not Hague BTW. Just thought I'd clear that one up.)
Google Andrew Sullivan!
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, very hard to understand.... The more I read along... the more diffuse... the rejoinders... beget ... ridibund cacchinations anent thy tresion ... spart reeben wee be sain prisencolinensianainciusol, ol raayghd?
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcUi6UEQh00
'EU warns Spain against imposing Gibraltar tax - The European Commission said Monday it hopes Britain and Spain will be able to resolve their latest dispute over Gibraltar by themselves, but warned that Spanish threats to impose a border tax would be illegal...'
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://psdispatch.com/news/apbusiness/9708513479890563592/EU-warns-Spain-against-imposing-Gibraltar-tax
'EU team to monitor Gibraltar border - he European Commission is to send a fact-finding mission to Gibraltar to investigate controls at the border...'
http://psdispatch.com/news/apbusiness/9708513479890563592/EU-warns-Spain-against-imposing-Gibraltar-tax
'Gibraltar visit for Royal Navy's HMS Westminster'
http://psdispatch.com/news/apbusiness/9708513479890563592/EU-warns-Spain-against-imposing-Gibraltar-tax
'Cameron versus Rajoy: Now it's personal'
http://psdispatch.com/news/apbusiness/9708513479890563592/EU-warns-Spain-against-imposing-Gibraltar-tax
'Julie Girling - 'I won't be shut up by Spanish Trolls''
http://psdispatch.com/news/apbusiness/9708513479890563592/EU-warns-Spain-against-imposing-Gibraltar-tax
'Spanish fishermen threaten further action'
http://psdispatch.com/news/apbusiness/9708513479890563592/EU-warns-Spain-against-imposing-Gibraltar-tax
Repeating yourself with diversions and insults because you cannot support your childish assertions - yup, typical Argentinian Anti-British Troll.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have a question for you;
Is this the only way you can get attention?
yawn
98 Forge Tit87
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Dish Biased and Balanced”
Oh dear, you do love to wear your heart on your backside, don’t you? What your idol “Andrew” failed to acknowledge (but he probably did not know) was that the “partner” of the “Gruniard” hack was himself a document mule for the woman who is doing the “documentary film on Snowden and was travelling on tickets paid for by the Gruniard itself no less.
How about that Tit?
BTW you told Geoff you weren't going to come back onto MP because of the likes of me, so you lie as well, eh?
Why? Because it's obvious you Anglos have no sense of humour and clearly by the responses here are very offended by that video, which is a stroke of genius not only in the “lyrics” but because it demonstrates what I have been saying all along: how ridiculous so many around the world are listening to English music when THAT IS HOW IT SOUNDS: MEANINGLESS.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anglos not being able to laugh about themselves, hardly unsurprising.
““The Dish Biased and Balanced”
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear, you do love to wear your heart on your backside, don’t you?”
Wow, Chrissy, I'm impressed by your investigative skills. You've totally refuted Mr. Sullivan by copying and posting a phrase just under the huge letters that give title to his blog!
Btw, I never said I was leaving MercoP; I said I was repelled by the environment here and discouraged to post more often. (This isn't to say I don't enjoy some hit-and-run posting some times.) And mind you, this isn't because of you, or anyone *in particular*. Is this you being your hurt victimized self again? Like when you told me you were angry at me because this one time I was smug... 28 months ago? I'd watch that if I were you, your defensiveness is a bit, um, sad and pathetic.
Ignoring the usual trollish behaviour...
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- -- -
I find it rather staggering that Spain (or rather its present incumbent Prem~) has decided to create a political storm over Gibraltar when it knows (and I emphasise KNOWS) that the UK isnt going to back down over this.
So why do Governments deliberately go out of their way to provoke another Nation? One that is not only a fellow EU member but also a fellow NATO ally?
Its, obviously, stupid to do so and, obviously, counter-productive in both the mid and long-term.
Which leaves us with the short-term.... whereupon as an easy means to distract the press and people from a Government scandal...
*yawn yawn yawn*
same old same old.
Except that Rajoy went a bit too far with the whole “Lets make friendly with Arjuntina over the Falklands”.... that alone has set back UK-Spanish relations very obviously and seriously.
So, well done Rajoy, you've achieved a short-term goal of moving Government scandal off the front-pages, at the cost of jobs, relations, prospects and the entire ethos of the EU being undermined.
Hope its worth it.
#100
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“since the people in those Spanish “colonies” are't even Spanish”
From where did you get your figures ?
The only demographics I found were in Wikipedia which states that 51% of the population were Spanish. When I last did Maths. 51% would be considered a majority. Although not a fan of said source, do you have another to back up your assertions ?
#105
That is the most sensible post you have made and even outdoes your random posts from the thesaurus under previous nom de plumes.
#109
If you had ever left your isolated region of an isolated country, you would realise that one of the main attributes of the British is to take the piss out of ourselves and mock our government and institutions..
There is a program on BBC TV called Mock the Week which does exactly this. In your sheltered little ghetto cut off from the outside world you can only conjecture what it is like OUT THERE. When you pass your exams or whatever it is you do, take a year out and travel the world. Experience it like tens of thousands of students do before they knuckle down to work. Who knows, it may open your closed mind to better things.
@109
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah the racist shows his hand. You seem agitated that English language music is the most popular in the world and not Hispanic music. Not are fault that the likes of Argentina has no talent and has given the world virtually nothing.
“Anglos not being able to laugh about themselves, hardly unsurprising.”
Our American offspring definitely, but Britons, Canadians ,New Zealanders and Australians make a point of mocking ourselves in our humour, its an instrumental part of it.
Its a sad, sad situation for you TTT;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2e4NlnLr28
'The King in 1982 to Thatcher adviser: “Recover soon Gibraltar is not in the interests of Spain” -
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don Juan Carlos told to Anthony Parsons, foreign policy adviser to former British prime minister, plans to Spain on the Rock. The comments had not been revealed until now after remaining under wraps for thirty years. They have just been declassified by the National Archives in Kew Gardens (London), as recorded by the Gibraltar Chronicle...'
http://vozpopuli.com/actualidad/30259-el-rey-en-1982-a-un-asesor-de-thatcher-recuperar-gibraltar-pronto-no-esta-en-los-intereses-de-espana
'Gibraltar. - Rajoy urges Barroso to ensure that there is no money laundering or smuggling - The Prime Minister, Mariano Rajoy, has “invited” on Monday President of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso, to send a delegation to Spain and Gibraltar to “checks” with a “comprehensive approach”. Specifically, urged “control” that economic activity in the Rock “it violates European legislation concerning money laundering, smuggling and taxation.”...'
http://vozpopuli.com/actualidad/30259-el-rey-en-1982-a-un-asesor-de-thatcher-recuperar-gibraltar-pronto-no-esta-en-los-intereses-de-espana
Nothing foreign can be better, only foreign.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“Nothing foreign can be better, only foreign.”“”
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Xenophobe.
@115
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah you're definitely a twisted bastard aren't you?
@113
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Not are fault that the likes of Argentina has no talent and has given the world virtually nothing.'
HAHAHA. You are one ignorant british puppy.
You failed to understand the point of the video. No matter how good music is (and English language music is mostly drivel), what is the point of listening if you DO NOT UNDERSTAND???
It's because people have been brainwashed, simple. They are losers who think listening to that makes them hip. No personality.
The UK is not bound by the Schengen agreement. This means that we retain the right to check ALL visitors to the UK by examination of passports etc.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The obverse of this is that Schengen countries have the right to check UK passports at their frontier.
As the Spanish feel so strongly about this, in respect of Gibraltar, why don't they institute thorough checks on ALL UK passport holders when arriving at Malaga, Alicante, Barcelona, Teneriffe, Majorca etc. I am sure that the Spanish tourist trade would be in agreement with this action as queues of up to 3 or 4 hours at the airports would in no way affect their lucrative holiday trade with Britain ! Lets show the Anglos they cannot mess with us even though our living will go down the tubes.
118 The Truth PaTroll
Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It's because people have been brainwashed, simple. They are losers who think listening to that makes them hip. No personality”
Ohhhhhhh, how wrong can one person be????
They listen to “that” because they like it... Simple. and you are a Xenophobe, a racist and angry.........
WOW!!! you got all the boxes tciked don't you??
#118
Aug 19th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone who disagrees with you has no personality. You have fingered a huge percentage of the human race.
If you listened to world wide “pop” music, then you would realise that nearly ALL the lyrics are piss poor. Listeners like a good tune with a beat. That's what sells it, or in the case of girls, if they like the male singer....Bieber etc. Most Spanish music I have heard seems to have “corazon” in every second line . In Greek it is sagapo. Hardly outstanding lyrics.
If you are interested in lyrics, read poetry !
If you go back a hundred years and look at the popular songs then, things have not changed much.
Scat singing was popular amongst jazz singers and the words were made up and onomatopoeic ...doodly aba doo dah etc.
People will listen to what they like or what is in fashion....even Argentinians.
For God's sake lighten up. You sound even older than me and I am in my dotage !
Nice try @93 Nostrils.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But alas yet another FAIL
You do realise you can't argue, don't you?
“”“There must be an amoeba in your brain at this point to spout such nonsense in face of the numbers above.”“””
Aug 19th, 2013 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TrollPatrol is really digging his hole deep this time. :-0
deliberately miss-quotes figures AND then uses them as his foundation for argument.
Oops!
Anbar
Aug 19th, 2013 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The comical part is that I was being facetious to Think for yet another asanine comment; that it is Gibraltar that manipulates and takes advantage of Madrid.
Toby, with his inability to argue and obvious social ineptitude that autistically fails to pick up on subtley, jumped in with Wikipedia.
He reminds me of the white fluffy Maltese at the park that tries to take on the Rotti and inevitable becomes nothing more than a chew toy. The Rotti is only inconvenienced insomuch as it has fluff between his teeth.
No excuse me while I go floss.
@111 Anbar
Aug 20th, 2013 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Except that Rajoy went a bit too far with the whole “Lets make friendly with Arjuntina over the Falklands”.... that alone has set back UK-Spanish relations very obviously and seriously.”
Still hasn't done much for the Repsol/YPF spat-so Spain is backing the wrong horse.
Spain was already friendly with Argentina!! They are after all distant cousins..blood is thicker than water.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0126 aussie downpour
Aug 21st, 2013 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you are thicker than three short planks.
TTT
Aug 21st, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you listening?
@126 Ozzie:
“Spain was already friendly with Argentina!! They are after all distant cousins..blood is thicker than water.”
127* Does the R of Christ R stand for..Rude/ram/-shackle/rancor/to Rant/
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0rheum/rogue/or to rove?? (:
@129
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't you and a lot of others like to know?
*128 HELLO!! Lend me your ears......
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@131 aussie downpour
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And now you are deaf as well!
BTW it's ChrisR, there is no Christ either.
Sunshine
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How nice to read your posts - well not really. The link mentions Spain at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XALs9gWZgjY
Liar ©
@129
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you the chairman of the Australian Cheese Board in perpetuity?
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