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Falklands’ Day celebrated on 14 August remembers first recorded sighting by John Davis in 1592
Falkland Islands Day was celebrated last Wednesday 14 August with a reception at Government House in Stanley hosted by Governor Nigel Haywood. The date marks the first recorded sighting of the Falklands on 14 August 1592 by English explorer John Davis who captaining the 120-ton vessel ‘Desire’ in that month was blown by a storm into ‘certaine Isles never before discovered’. Davis account was published in 1600 in London by Richard Hakluyt. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules...and they remain British to this day!
Aug 19th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...and they lived happily ever after.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
You'd have thought they'd mention his stirling rugby career too.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hosted by the English colonial Governor Nigel Haywood.
Aug 19th, 2013 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nigel, kelper who?
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-governor-of-the-falkland-islands-nigel-haywood-laughs-news-photo/144127295#
Still waiting for Marcos to make an actual point......
Aug 19th, 2013 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Nigel Haywood is the Governor!
If Marcos wants to continue to highlight the poor education levels of his country by calling him English and Colonial then that is, unfortunately, for poor (mentally and more than likely financially) Marcos more reflective on him.
...and Marcos fumbles the ball !
Aug 20th, 2013 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's what you get for sending a dunce to do a Troll's work.
Hopeless, clumsy fail, Marcos.
Better luck next year. We'll still be there.
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/
Aug 20th, 2013 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Contains a little more detail :-)
Marcos Alejandro, RG.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0RG - $7 a day idiot with poor grasp of English and geography.
Nuff sed
@6
Aug 20th, 2013 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“and Marcos has no balls at all”
@3;
Aug 20th, 2013 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL - League player to begin with wasn't he??
the baby Argentina wasn't even born then. The Falklands was born first, and an adult at that.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unbelievable. A sighting at least doubtful, the British take it for granted.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who has brainwashed?
“Desire the right” Said by a pirate!
@12 Malvi
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes a sighting that was recorded, with latitude and longitude at the time, in the ship's log. That is called EVIDENCE.
I know that you don't understand that word, as Argentina prefers wishful thinking and lies to evidence, but the rest of the world understands it.
As for him being a pirate, PROVE IT!
I know, you could always take your case to the International Court of Justice. I'm sure they are eager to listen to your fairy tales and lies.
We are British
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I stood at my bedroom window
And watched as plain as can be
There is no place like the Falkland islands
Which is so peaceful and so free.
It was captain john Davis who discovered
These islands in 1592
And may his sole rest in peace now
And we stay British through and through
The tourists are amazed at the beauty
The wild life is a pleasure just to see.
They come from many distant countries
To take away a special memory
In 1982 we were invaded
By Argentina just across the sea
But thanks to Margaret Thatcher and her government
Who sent a task force just to set us free.
In the years to come we hope you will remember
Those brave souls that fought here in 82
The ones who gave their lives just to free us
A place within our hearts we’ll have for you
Peace and goodwill you will find here
And loyal to the crown as well you know
So keep that union jack a flying
And never ever let these islands go.
So let the minds be strong
and the winds blow free
We are British
And that’s what we’ll always be.
@13 LEPRecon: Its positioning is wrong. It leads to the open sea. Does not describe coordinates.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0And it is a pirate, mate.
#15
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to have a fixation on the word “pirate” which you apply exclusively to the “English” (British). The general meaning in English is a person or persons that attack and rob vessels on the high seas, with occasional forays on land. Acquiring territory would be co - incidental., not the main purpose.
So, if we accept this appellation for the British, what name do we ascribe to the Spanish.
They set sail to Central and South America, plundered, raped and murdered their way across a continent. Stole the land from what was left of the original population and continue to do so to this day.
A word in Spanish which almost fits the bill is “pirata”, however this is not strong enough to cover what the Spanish did. Their crimes are in a different league to capturing Spanish ships, taking the treasure which had been stolen at gunpoint from the native Americans.
Murdering unprincipled swines is as near as I can get, but I cannot find a word to cover this....sudden thought, how about Argentinian ?
I would call the British action as poetic justice.
Wait I'm confused. I thought the history of the Falkland Islands begins in 1833. You mean to tell me the British were there before that? Before Argentina existed? Wow that's crazy.......
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@16 I do not mention to the English.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do not mentionto to the British.
I only mention what history says of Davis.
A looter of ports and ships Spanish in the Pacific.
His discovery of the Malvinas Islands is just a fantasy.
Likewise, thanks you for your explanation.
@18
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0whilst on the subject of pirates how about that famous Argentine patriot, David Jewett (who was in fact American but never mind). In 1820 he was the captain of the privateer Heroina (licensed as such by the United Provinces of the River Plate) Jewett was forced by storms to land at what he called Port Soledad. He had actually been looking for Spanish ships to plunder. Having found none he captured a Portuguese ship which because they were not at war with Portugal was deemed to be an act of piracy. After failing to repair the Honoria he then committed a second act of piracy by seizing the US ship Rampart. A year later the government of the UPRP discovered via a newspaper report that he had claimed the Falkland Islands in the name of the UPRP but had then 'forgotten' to mention it in his report.
So, we can see a 'genuine' pirate and turns out he wasn't British at all but an American mercenary working for the UPRP (latterly known to the world as Argentina)!!
Who cares if Davis was a pirate? Doesn't seem to matter if he was or wasn't. He discovered the islands. And to this day they are British. Next question...
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12 And the United Provinces sent......a pirate. Took SEVEN months to get there. Did he walk? Official argie records show that Jewett did not mention his “declaration” in his “official” 13 page report. Nor did the “government” publish its sovereignty claim in its official gazette.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 And the same goes for you, dumdum.
@17 I know it's hard to believe. But let's see. Britain, as a unified nation, existed for at least 800 years before the genocidal, xenophobic, rebellious colony that called itself the United Provinces of the River Plate came into being. Britain discovered the Falkland Islands in 1690. Can we see how what is now called “argentina” lied from the beginning. No way was it “United”. How can you have “Provinces” of a rebellious colony? And there's more. Argieland claims that “inherited” the Falkland Islands from Spain. Except that there is no internationally-recognised legal principle for such “inheritance”. Nor did Spain ever have undisputed sovereignty. The only time it tried, it got its throat ripped out. (Falklands Crisis 1770-71). In 1776, Britain had concerns elsewhere, but never renounced sovereignty. Quite simple really. Like any other criminals, argies have never been more than trespassers. Should we fine them at the rate of USD$100 million per year for their crimes? But how do we get it? Argieland refuses to go to the International Court of Justice. But how about the International Criminal Court? But don't believe me. Unlike the argie liars, I won't give you links to read. I've given pointers. Do your own research. Make up your own mind.
#17 What's with 1833? The only thing that happened then was that HMS Clio cleaned out a rats nest of rapists and murderers originally from the UP from the Falklands. These people had been annoying and threatening the Falklands population for about 3 months. After that, 180 years of peace only interupted by another rats nest clearout of 11,000+ invaders in 1982 who went home after 3 months in disgrace. Seems that 3 months is the right period to purge cocroaches.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for pirates, they are all from Devon and Cornwall, have wooden legs and a parrot on the shoulder. John Davis was nothing like that. Have a look at Johny Depp, you'll soon get the idea..
It seems all Malvi's are issued as standard, a tin bucket and a wooden spoon.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the first sign of someone raising facts and holes in the 'Sacred Truth', then they instantly don the bucket and start bashing it hard until the 'blasphemies' have ceased. Ignorant dumb monkeys the lot of them.
So much for others recognizing sarcasm. In this forum all the “Malvinas” supporters quote is 1833. As if nothing happened before that. Stories like this point out how ridiculous those supporters are.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0All of what happened prior to March 2013 is irrelevant, never mind the fact that most of the TG claim is based on unprovable myths and lies.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the end of last year the UN GA issued a resolution 67/134 which, in paragraph 7(c), re-iterated what similar, annually issued, resolutions had said for several years. That is that the populations of the NSGT's have a right to self-determination. The Islanders exercised that right earlier this year with an almost unanimous decision to maintain the status quo regarding their political situation.
RG trolls please note the word 'populations', many RG supporters contend that as irrelevant, non-mandatory UNGA resolution 2065 referred to 'peoples' then the UN Charter did not apply to the Islanders as 2065 referred to them as a population. UNGA 67/134, and its similar predecessors, dispels that myth. Just to add to the irony of the RG claims Argentina voted 'for' 67/134, as they did for its similar predecessors.
It would seem to be 'game, set and match' to the Islanders, with the support of Argentina, unless of course they (RGland) did not intend to vote 'for' the subject resolutions. Always possible I suppose.
The largest gangster and representative of the Malvinas, representing and appointed by the Queen more gangster in the world, continue lying and trying to deceive the world incredible inventing false stories about the Malvinas Argentinas, in order to justify desperately theft.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are thirty previous maps to “brave watching” Davis:
Nautical Chart 1513 Piri Reis
1519 manuscript map of Jorge Reinel
1523 East coast of South America Juan Sebastián Elcano (Islas de los Patos and Samson)
1527 Letter containing “everything that the world has yet discovered” by Diego Ribeiro (S. Anton 49
1529 Universal Charter Diego Ribeiro (S. Anton to 49 ° S)
1534 Map anonymous. In Peter Martyr, Opus Epistolarum.
Islario 1541, XV map of Alonso de Santa Cruz (Samson 51 ° S)
1543-1545 Atlas, second map of Juan Bautista Agnese (ILLAS of Clubs or San are 51 ° S)
1544 World Map of Sebastian Cabot (Islas San Sone)
1562 Bartholomew Map of Olives (Samson)
Sive Americae 1562 qvarta and orbis partis nova descriptio etexactissima Diego Gutierrez. Published in Antwerp after his death (1554)
1571 Map of Fernão Vaz Dourado
1572 Map of Joan Martinez (Illa de Palo)
1578 Western Hemisphere Joan Martinez (Illa de Palo)
1590 Coast region Tierra del Fuego Magellan and Sebastián López (Illa Cam Com)
The thieves say that Davis discovered the islands in 1592, but this guy was published eight years later! I can also say the same after someone discovered something, plus it's more than proven that already 63 years ago that the Malvinas Argentinas maps contained in Spanish.
On the pirate Hawkins (as pirate like the late Woodward) the same English scholars dismissed it as absolutely and never taken into account, but in these latitudes these types think they can continue to deceive, the very deluded.
And the writer, you forgot to say that pirates left voluntarily in 1774 in the only island that had occupied (the Trinity) thereby recognizing, by the Treaty of San Lorenzo, the Spanish sovereignty.
@ 25
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0My apologies, the third paragraph of my post #25 above should have read:
“RG trolls please note the word 'populations', many RG supporters contend that as irrelevant, non-mandatory UNGA resolution 2065 referred to 'peoples' then the UN Charter did not apply to the Islanders as it, the Charter, only referred to 'peoples'. UNGA 67/134, and its similar predecessors, dispels that myth. Just to add to the irony of the RG claims Argentina voted 'for' 67/134, as they did for its similar predecessors.”
Once again my apologies for the error and any inconvenience it may have caused.
Wow with all this “new” evidence the Malvanistas are getting from their clients in La Campora you'd think the Argentina would be happy to take all this to the ICJ like they were supposed to have done all along, rather than taking their sad case everywhere BUT the ICJ, none of whom are truly empowered to mange your lie of a territorial dispute.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well? End it once and for all. Oh yes. The case won't fly You really have no case. (Two words from another case that fell like a lead balloon once exposed to the light of reality: “Breathtaking Inanity.”) And of course, you don't really WANT resolution since all you want is an eternal distraction for your failures at home. Losers.
@ Oh my José !
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Look at what you have just written:
You start at 1513 and end at 1774! Let it go for for Christ sake, its just not worth it.
We all know the islands had several claims made - even Uruguay has a stronger claim then you.
Again, your 'fundamental right' to the Islands is based on a Pope (500 hundred years) giving Spain the divine right to most of S.America. The fact that the Falklanders are not Latin in culture and language does not give you the right to take them over.
So there is supposedly 30 plus earlier recordings of the Falklands . Wonder if they are authentic or did someone invent them.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Further fact that at the time of 1592 there was no Argentina either.
Fact also that Spain has no legal right to give our country to Argentina because they did not own it either. Apart from talk of a French sell out to the Spanish nothing else is relevant.
you can always tell when the argies are losing the argument, because they start name calling, like English pirates etc. I see that as quite funny.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@26
Aug 20th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go to the ICJ
@ 32 totally agree, the IJC will take one look at that and say... and? maps were made by a whole host of nations, just because you make a map does not justify stealing that land, otherwise we would all be wanting different countries, google earth must have a claim to the whole globe by now. @26 José Malvinero, you are a complete idiot!
Aug 20th, 2013 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 32 Pete Bog
Aug 20th, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina does not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICJ
The following is an extract from an Argentine ambassador's letter to the ICJ when the UK attempted to take the sovereignty matter of some of the dependencies to the ICJ
'The Argentine Government has several times had occasion to indicate in notes addressed to Her Britannic Majesty’s Embassy in Buenos Aries that it cannot consent to the question of sovereignty over the Antarctic Territories of Argentina which it is sought to raise being referred for decision to any International Court of Justice or Arbitration Tribunal. By this present note, my Government reaffirms its refusal in the most express way with regard to the jurisdiction of this Court and with regard to any possibility that it should be seised as such to deal with this case.”
The RG's 'ran', yet again.
@34, so basically we're done here. Argentina does not hold the Falklands. It refused to go to the ICJ. The Security Council is supposed to send it to the ICJ. C24 is not supposed to be handling territorial disputes. They refuse to go to the one place where such things are to be done. It is “illegal” in their constitution to repeat their 1982 failed attempt in imposing their fascism on the islanders (and gladly accepting the price of such a success -- accepting and acclaiming a prolonged rule by their Junta they insist-or-pretend to oppose).
Aug 20th, 2013 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They default on the resolving of the “dispute” through the only internationally accepted means necessary aside from butt-nekkid war. More still, this year they refused to meet with the UK to discuss the islands in clear and explicit violation of UNGA resolutions to which the UK explicitly worked within with which it complied.
So while they may whine all they want, it truly IS 1850 all over again. The Falklands are the Falkander's by fact, law, reality and DEFAULT -- by the acquiesce of Argentina itself.
So why are we still talking about this, Malvanistas? Oh yes, it's a distraction from your paymistress's long list of domestic failures.
Jose, those maps are about as useful as Argie Pesos. Fit for one thing only.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are three ways for Argentina to get the Falklands:
1. Make a successful case in the IJC - YOU CAN'T CAN YOU?
2. Be nice to the Falkland Islanders and offer them a much better deal than the UK so that they welcome a takeover -THE REVERSE OF WHAT YOU ARE NOW DOING.
3. Attack the Falklands again and subjugate the Islanders and the British Armed Forces - NOT AN OPTION. You would doubtless fail and be humiliated once more and condemned by the whole world.
Can't you see how hopeless Argentinas position is? Why on earth do you Argies keep whining. Don't you see it makes you look like idiots?
The Uruguayan claim is stronger than the Argentine claim.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both are pointless, useless and invalid though.
..a bit like Malvos posts in fact....
The full Argentinian claim
Aug 20th, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.aveguema.org.ar/historimalving.htm
38 agent999
Aug 20th, 2013 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I started to read your link and had to give up, I was losing the will to live.
What a bunch of losers! Papal Bullshit from the RCC to the fore!
The argies will NEVER accept the truth of the matter which is that the World has moved on and the UN has scuppered anything they thought might work for them.
As for going to the ICJ? Is the Pope an argie? Ha, ha, ha.
@39 ChrisR
Aug 20th, 2013 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was pretty pathetic, but you can see where Jose, Marcos and co. get their warped ideas from.
@16
Aug 20th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Clyde.....now here's a real pirate for you a Scotsman, from your neck of the woods too! A little bit further South.......John Paul Jones... “Father of the United States Navy”
Pirate.....Kidnapper....Double Murderer.....Rapist.....
Yet the Americans have honoured him with a statue and memorial in DC......a hero?
Yes A_Voice he was a hero!
Aug 20th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh sorry...... is this just the start of your Scottish obsession deflection?
My bad.
Who has brainwashed, giving as true a false story?
Aug 20th, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 voice:
Aug 20th, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey you little coward - Where the F are you from?
C'mon answer us......
Cowardly little turd.
@43, Prove it. Have your government go to the ICJ since you think your case is so iron tight. Let's see who's brainwashed. Oh yes, your various governments know they have no case and refuse to go. They even walk away from talks with the UK -- explicitly violating UNGA Resolution 2065 like they did in February the comfy chairs and hors d'oeuvres were there and waiting but no, they weren't really interested... Your government has walked away from seriously considering recovering the Falklands. Perhaps you should too and make something of yourself and your country. Oh yes. I forgot. Your various governments have brainwashed YOU and your countrymen to drool at the ring of the “Malvinas” bell like Pavlov's dog to distract from their corruption, incompetence and failures. And you just... well... you just let them. SUCKER.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 shit scared:
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you are attacking the Americans?
The Father of the US Navy was indeed a Scot.
43
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So a hero to you is someone that interfered with a 12 year old girl?
I knew you were strange but.......
44 Escoses Dildo
Liar.......Plastic Scot......Liar......when are you next in Scotland you liar......
I don't answer to liars.......See this?......This is a write whatever I like, say whatever I want, answer to no one.......and get away with it badge!
So bleat all you like ya wee runt......you will never know.....you are dismissed!
Off you pop now!
AVoice has left the building......
LMFAO. If we ever meet, I will put my Brocher's size 10 boot so far up your hole it'll brak yer teeth.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In then I'll knock the shit oot o yer parents for producing shite like yersail.
My daughters have to share the same world as vermin like you voice??
Atts jist nae happnan en mai bukk.
Now, - Answer us all on here, - Where do you come from? You have no identity do you.
Sad little virgin with no identity........
I must come back for this ya wee runt.........let me know the next time you are in Scotland and I'll gladly give you the opportunity........I've been in Dundee for the last two days only 90 miles from where you claim to live.......no problem to travel 90 miles........then you will see what a wee runt you are to me.......like all Scots are! Friggin dwarves!
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ya fanny!...........now you're dismissed!
Ah - so I'm right - you didn't leave the building.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hang on you turd, tell you what, I'll make time to meet up with you.
I left ABZ for Port Harcourt Nigeria (where I work) on 7th August.
I was intending to head for Brasil. at the end of this hitch.
But now I am about to change that.
Tell me now, where in the UK (or anywhere) you will be in the first week of September?
No Fcukin problem you Cnut - I am comin aifter ye.
Nae F problem.
Answer me - where are you going to be first week of September this year???
What airport do you fly into .........you liar?
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any one I choose - Child.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just tell me where you will be.....
I just checked destinations from ABZ.......they don't have Nigeria as a destination......Friggin lying again!
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I knew you were full of it.......
http://www.aberdeenairport.com/flight-information/destinations-and-airlines
Dick head - ABZ - CDG (Paris) then AF 514 yo Port Harcourt (stop over in Abuja)
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cock ye.!!!
Yes A_Voice he was a hero.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes A_Voice you are Scottish.
Yes A_Voice I'm bored shytless.
Whenever you post it is like Groundhog Day but without the comedic highlights.
Soon changed your story after looking at the flight info........Liar
Aug 20th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just let me know when you are in Scotland.......and save all your pathetic bullshit lies.........Ya wee runt!
Just to clarify 53 no identity's post:
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It looked at the web site for Aberdeen Airport, and was expecting to see direct flights to Nigeria on the schedule. (mongo)
Voice - Aberdeen doesn't do intercontinental flights really. That's why I connected in CDG.
Have you ever flown? -serious question.
Escoses Doido
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The article is on the Falklands and A_Voice has got you all over the shop talking about flights in and out of Scotland.
Mate, pull the fishing hook out of your cheek! Who gives a flying fark where he lives. Honestly A_Voice doesn't say anything except get you running around trying to prove him wrong. That is his goal.
A_Voice can live in Scotland! So? Once you accept that, he runs out of things to say!
@58:
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well actually no, because I am proving every single thing it says as being wrong.
For me that's ok.
But I see your point.
What a frigging moron.......It's called Aberdeen International Airport and look at the destinations........Tunisia.......What friggin continent is Tunisia in?
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fly into Glasgow airport.......ever done that?
If so......tell me the position of the coffee bar in the Arrivals lounge.
Then tell me where the money exchange is in relation to it.
Don't bother answering just tell me when you will get to Glasgow so I can crave your frigging skull in .....ya fanny!
Pathetic mouthy wimps soon change their tune when they meet me......as you will!
Escoses Doido - Crazy Scot - nice nick!
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_Voice does the exact same thing with every other person and every other thread. He is a one trick pony.
He has tried to bait me multiple times. He also claims that I am not Australian or in Australia. He claims I have sock puppets. But baulks and “leaves the building” when asked for proof.
So just accept he is in Scotland. It's a big country and won't be harmed if he is. Once you accept that he suddenly will have very little to say.
So what if he besmirches Scotland! The satisfaction isn't in proving him wrong but in knowing that he is wrong.
So his current bone today is Aberdeen International Airport. Woopeedoo.
As long as you don't talk about the Falkland's, he is satisfied.
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Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sure who is more pathetic after that!
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really?
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just catering to what the individual will react to.
Don't ever insinuate me as being pathetic.
Escoses Dildo
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I knew you were a liar.......you knew fine well I was talking abut Glasgow Airport!
You are avoiding the question because you have never been......and you can't Google it. You would only know if you had used it.....and what Scotsman has not used Glasgow Airport?
A mouthy pathetic Wannabe liar.......I knew it
Just give me your flight schedule and I'll be there......stood in front of that coffee bar waiting for you!......Fanny!
Don't start telling porkies Skip......I have never ever said you are not an Aussie and never ever said you don't live down under......but yes...you have puppets......so what!
Lots of others on here also have......big deal....enables them to play devils advocate I suppose...and highlight a different point of view and encourage debate.
Again so what!
I personally don't as I freely do that anyway!
I knew I was wasting my time.....bothering with a Walter Mitty....
Now AVoice has definitely left the building
I'm not insinuating mate! I'm labelling you as I have labelled him - pathetic.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Threats of violence, name calling - it honestly doesn't get much more pathetic other than the fact that A_Voice has you hook, line and sinker.
Enjoy it.
As you can see, he has made more accusations against me. But who cares? Not me.
38 agent999 The Argentine claim ha ha ha I just read it, who in there right mind would believe that bull, oh dear, what a laugh, they will have to do a bit better than that twisted demented piece of crap!!! no wonder the country is falling to bits.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Wannabe” is a common tactic of his, to bait and distract,
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no substance behind the coward who jumps to Crissy's command.
“I'll beat you up, but I'm afraid to meet you.”
What does that say to you?
No way Beavis I saw it first.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An Englishman cuts the BS www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYeFcSq7Mxg
Has anyone ever seen Youtube referenced in any real compelling argument?
Aug 20th, 2013 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't think so! Another link to ignore... added to the several dozen already during August.
@45 GFace: I do not I have to prove anything. They did the historians.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is the sucker?
@71 Then take it to the ICJ. Oh yes. Your historians are not in line with the law or facts... That's why your government won't. But they string you along to distract you -- and you gladly follow just like you all did in 82. Sucker.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@72 Who has brainwashed, giving as true a false story?
Aug 20th, 2013 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is the sucker?
You!
Aug 20th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@74 I do not think, Anglo hahaha
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@73... ICJ, Malvi. They are the ones to arbitrate this since you failed to comply with 2065 in February when all parties were waiting with a chair waiting for your Timerman who lacked the courage to talk to two elected officials of just 3000 or so people? Why not, Malvi. Chicken? Weak? Just aware that you have no viable claim? Or like your government, you're just not serious about the Islands either.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@76 GFace: Perhaps at some point (I.C.J.) The Islanders already have your representative: Mr. William Hague. listening, GFace in a discussion is righteous 2 parts British and one Argentina?
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77 Why not at today? Your case isn't getting any better nor will it. You know why. You have no case in comparison to the Islanders UN-recognized fundemental right to self-determination that you tried to take away from them in 1982 when you tried to impose your Junta, your problem and later when you failed to strip them and the Gibraltarians in the GA.
Aug 20th, 2013 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for February, you REALLY don't get it nor do you see how absolutely pathetic Argentine looked. Timerman could have gone and arrogantly ignored the Islanders and talked to Hague while they were in the same room. You would have loved it (while the rest of the world would have seen him for what he was). He could have brought Castro. Timerman could have brought Malvanista fake stakeholders into the room like you do in C24. He could have even brought in your celebrated Betts with a diplomatic passport. Statesmen love to talk. They love to be seen talking. They love to be seen making seemingly brave but meaningless talk talk that they never mean. They love to be Nixon in China. They love the picture of being seen shaking hands in the name of diplomacy. But he didn't. Because he was not serious about talking about the Falklands to begin with. Because it's too useful a distraction.
#41
Aug 21st, 2013 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually NOT my neck of the woods, Kirkbean, on the Solway is 64 miles from where I live. Glasgow city centre is 37 miles, Strone, by ferry is approx. 56 miles..
A pirate is one who acts outside the law of ANY country for his own benefit.
Apart from being an officer in the US Navy he was also a privateer.
John Paul Jones, held a letter of marque from the Congress of the fledgling USA which allowed him to distress the enemies of the “USA”, and, as such, his actions were legal under American law, not piratical.
Britain also gave letters of marque to seamen to harry and attack shipping of enemy countries as it was cheaper than building ships and paying for the crews.
As to the rest of your assertions about JPJ's conduct, I can make no comment as I have only read about his naval exploits. Who did he kidnap ? However, the British government did mount a vindictive campaign against him with a series of scurrilous attacks on his conduct and person.
then you will see what a wee runt you are to me.......like all Scots are! Friggin dwarves!
Well, thank you for that complementary statement which again, is factually incorrect. As it appears that you have no love for the country or people, why do you grace us with your presence ?
79 Clyde15
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Love the final paragraph put down. :o)
79
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry about that Clyde, I didn't mean you......it was late and that pretender was annoying and I know which buttons to push to rattle him.
How do you wind up a Scots wannabe?........easy! He's ridiculous with his dialect embarrassing crap.....could even get Glasgow in dialect right!.....“Glasgae”.....not “Glasgay”
They are just words don't take it seriously!
This is interesting a Glasgow publication.......Pirate!
http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/jpjones.htm
There is a lot of stuff not on the net......more details about Jones and his escapades on the east coast.......the Tyne and the Tees and at Hartlepool this is the area where he kidnapped some local businessmen and held them for ransom.
@41 a_troll
Aug 21st, 2013 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“then you will see what a wee runt you are to me.......like all Scots are! Friggin dwarves!”
Well, you sure slipped up, there!!
Were you drinking when you replied? You really show the real 'you'.
Now, in the morning, it's meek back-pedalling and damage control @81
“Sorry about that Clyde, I didn't mean you......it was late and that pretender was annoying and I know which buttons to push to rattle him.”
Sure, “Voice”.
Somehow, I don't think Clyde will buy that one.
:D
82
Aug 21st, 2013 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dare say Mr Clyde is intelligent enough to realise my comments were not directed at him and would realise the best way to attack a pretender.....is to attack what he pretends to be.......it don't mean nuffin'.
The results justified the means......he came apart at the seams.....frothing at the mouth even threatening Anglotino, a prime example of an ITG.....Internet Tough Guy!
It can be quite satisfying what can be achieved with a few words!
After all I didn't start it......I was innocently posting to Mr Clyde about famous pirates......when the jibes started.
I have no need to back pedal and wasn't expecting Mr Clyde to be offended, but evidently he was......so I apologised and explained.....Should I have not?
Now... be gone Troy the Anglophile......opps ...my bad....Anglotinophile!
To other posters on the forum, I apologize for the deviation from the thread, partly caused by me at #16
Aug 21st, 2013 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets move on from this ! However, I am having the last word on the subject of Glasgay or Glasgae..... both are wrong.
If you come from Glasgow or were brought up there you would know that it is Glesga.. Phonetically pronounced GLEZ-GUH. For the reason that A at the end of a word normally has the glottal stop applied making it come out nearer the letter U as in UP.
The song “I belong to Glasgow” was sung by Will Fyffe in an exaggerated Dundonian accent, not Glaswegian.
I think that should be the last word on the subject.
#77
GFace in a discussion is righteous 2 parts British and one Argentina?
I have to agree with you there. It should be two parties, Falklands and Argentina.
It is up to the islanders whether they wish to discuss THEIR future with Argentina.
84
Aug 21st, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nah I would say this is the final word.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fixmvI-eAuI
Glasgae........:-))))))
83 “voice”
Aug 21st, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0““then you will see what a wee runt you are to me.......like all Scots are! Friggin dwarves!”
”It can be quite satisfying what can be achieved with a few words!“
To paraphrase what somebody once said on here, ” you become much clearer all the time”
@ 19 Not is true, that Jewett has practiced piracy against a Portuguese ship, since from 1816 there were incursions into the territory of the United Provinces of Rio de la Plata by troops Emperor of Brazil (the ruler of Lisbon had moved to Brazil after Portugal was invaded by Napoleon, establishing there the head of the Lusitanian Empire) in the context of what is known as “Luso-Brazilian Invasion”
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0The war, unable to be declared by Argentina because fought against Spain, so then turned diplomatically silent.
The not been formalized war, this fact does not mean that there was no resistance. made by the General Artigas in the Banda Oriental or Guacurary Andrew, better known as Andresito, in the provinces of Misiones and Corrientes.
The ground fighting had also taken to sea by letters of marque assigned by Artigas, one of Ireland's best known captains Peter Campbell, who British sergeant had been in the British invasions of Buenos Aires.
More brainwashing and lies of P & P.
@ 87 Malvinense 1833
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe you should check the wording of Jewett's 'Letter of Marque', was he empowered to enforce the laws of the United Provinces or just take Spanish ships?
@77
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ The Islanders already have your representative: Mr. William Hague. listening, ”
Hague was not born in the Falkland Islands nor has he lived there for 7 years becoming a Falkland Islands citizen. He is not an elected member of the Falklands Islands Government-so he can speak for the UK, but not the Falkland Islands.
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