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Al-Jazeera despite ‘aggressive hostility’ launches TV news-channel in United States
Al Jazeera is launching a new TV news channel in the United States. The network will be available in almost 48 million US households, offering 14 hours of news each day. Al Jazeera replaces Current TV, the cable television network founded by former US Vice President Al Gore, which the Qatar-owned broadcaster acquired in January 2013 for around 500m dollars. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAbout time the Yanks had a decent news channel.......instead of believing all the crap that's fed to them.......broaden their horizons a bit!
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Al Jazeera was my favourite channel during the Libya conflict!
I read their website everyday.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Going to make a change from the lamestream media the US has now.
I like diversity. I like Al Jazeera. If you have spent any time in the US you will know it is not all FOX news.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AL Jazeera have produced some excellent news items exposing the corruption by La Campora at the last Argentine national elections. They are available on Youtube.
I think their news is fair and unbiased.......unlike RT, which is a bit of a laugh.
Aug 21st, 2013 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They also have some great interest stories that are real eye openers.
I know exactly what the Yanks will be thinking.......Raghead News!
Hopefully this will help to counter the abysmal ignorance of the average US citizen regarding the world beyond Miami. Al-Jazeera is so much better than Fox News and CNN, the 'McDonalds' of the US media spoon feeding vacuous low-brow crap to Trailer Trash viewers.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Heard a series of clips from street interviews:
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0most people interviewed on the streets of the USA equate Al Jazeera news and television support for with muslim terrorists, Osama bin Laden, the 9/11 bombers, etc.
Yes, 'ragheads', a la Hurt Locker.
Al J (& RT) do raise a lot of items and perspectives that are conspicuous by their absence on 'Western' news channels.
The important thing is to know enough about what is going down so you can spot the omissions and biases.
Elaine you've been to the USA numerous times so I assume you understand the news in the USA and know how most citizens perceive the 24 hr news cycle of cable news versus all the other news...BBC, PBS Nightly broadcast etc. Those that have not spent any time here other than as a tourist get there info on US media via the internet......like tobi, TTT, Pope JohnIII etc does on his views of the world, and we know how good a view that is.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Al Jazeera English is probably the best news channel in the UK :) always nice to see a news story told from a different angle.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The BBC news service has gone down hill in the last couple year, 24 hr news cycles hasn't helped.
Sky news is a Murdoch corporation, in a lot of ways a lot like FOX (fake) news. Murdoch dimming down news since like the 70's, should of never let him in the country.
A_voice. I'm going to agree with you for once, RT is funny. But in a terribly Russian propaganda kind of way.
Me thinks its about time Americans had a better news channel.
@7 Yes.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I remember there being a few murmurs when AL Jazeera started broadcasting here. People soon realised it was worthy of watching and not some vehicle for muslim extremists spreading hatred. I think they produce some of the most balanced reporting.
I also think news broadcasting changed with the 24 hour news entertainment channels. Now they look to fill the hours and create rather than just report the news.
They will have an uphill struggle to reach the “yanks” in America.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ones who don't even know that there are countries other than the States and believe every word written in the bible AND there are an awful lot of them.
No wonder Time Warner Cable dropped them like a hot brick.
Shame really, but why let the truth get in the way of the Stars and Stripes forever mentality?
I hope they make it.
Elaine your last sentence was a direct hit. Most American's know that is what the 24 hour cable news does......look for news.
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chris you are totally wrong. Perceptions of Americans as knuckle dragging, gun totting, McD's eating bible reading muslim haters are typically what the provincial minded know it all's carry around. Your internet perception of the world is a wonderment.
“Shame really, but why let the truth get in the way of the Stars and Stripes forever mentality?”
Really chris.....couldn't help yourself? I still really can't quite figure you out, but then ...I really haven't made an effort.
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Aug 22nd, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is not wrong Pops......you are deluding yourself, the majority of Yanks know nothing of the outside world......they are like little children!
If feel like I'm in a Kindergarten whilst there....they haven't a clue.....you are in a minority that have any experience of the outside world.
The majority of Yanks never even had a passport before 9/11....look at the statistics, they will verify!......They still lag behind everyone else!
It is the American way!.....
An old 5x'er can hardly recall.....was it denk or jetstream? When do you start entertaining pops here and bring them back?
Aug 22nd, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you grow a pair of balls to email me yet? Create a decoy account and I will email you.
You are a riot and still clueless from never being out of SA.
Feeling like you are in kindergarten in the USA must make you feel like you are back in RG college........or was that a matchbook school?
It's a shame that the more extreme and dramatic acts of a small percentage of U.S. citizens have come to define their society for much of the rest of the world, in the same way that muslim extremist's have done for other muslims.
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0My favourite news show is the P.B.S. Newshour, not least for Shield's and Brook's analysis. The respect they show for each other, and the quality of their insights is a model for all others.
Casper....the old saying is the loudest gear gets the oil, regardless of how small it might be. It's human nature to judge based on perception. If 10% of the USA are biggoted idiots and racists....that amounts to over 31 million. So it stands to reason that those whom have never been to the USA or only vacation........would not know otherwise.
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Voice/think/denk/jetstreamBR/....and? Loves the USA and knows it is the place to make money.
Pops
Massachusetts, USA
@12 A_Voice
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Huh! You're just being provocative... as usual. Your grasp of the vernacular suggests a deep familiarity with American culture - both low and high. I'm willing to bet you have at least some affection for the good ol' U.S. of A.
@15 Cap'n
As the great Nick Lowe once sang '...what's so bad about peace and understanding...?”
Cheers Pops.
Newshour is a good broadcast as well as NBR as well as some on the old fashioned nightly broadcast news. And 60 minutes is always good......but TV is far and few in between for me.
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should have said ...peace, LOVE and understanding...
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0My computer is possessed. I'm sure it hates me.
So where do you get your news Poppy?
It really depends.....I am a bit old fashioned.....but I prefer a paper, usually the Globe. TV if I do I usually flip through a few. All news has a slant from the writer/anchor that is creating it.....some more than others. Governments that own the media only print/broadcast the golden paved roads. But I've become jaded to it all....everywhere
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 011 Captain Poppy
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I really haven't made an effort”
So don't blame me then! Please re-read my post with your “horns” retracted and rethink what I wrote NOT what you THINK I wrote.
I love Americans, but I think the “yanks” in your country let you down. Yank is fast becoming a derogatory term in Europe and I can see why.
It has not improved the perception of America when you have the most idiotic people who post on the internet. Dear me they are completely illiterate and unintelligent if you look at motorcycle sites, truck sites and even Hickok 45 who is a great guy and a beacon of sensibility (a recently retired Uni Lecturer) suffers from the idiots and he is as American as you can be!
And if you can’t take the truth from a Brit then have a look at Bill Maher!
You don’t have to “figure me out”, I don’t tell lies and if the truth hurts as I honestly see things then I don’t know what to say. Do you want me to lie to you because it will never happen?
BTW, the American Muslim haters have got it about right: at least they won’t be slaughtered by these vermin when they come to deliver the ultimate Jihad, the end of all non-Muslims.
I'm well aware of my countries short comings without the need of an ex-pat brit who fled his country to SA needing to tell me. Nor do I need to listen to a extreme left wing vegan comedian to espouse the “truth” to me. But I am sure that my countries' idiots are comparable to your ex-countries' idiots, only we're a tad larger, hence more raw numbers of idiots.
Aug 23rd, 2013 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for you not being a liar, I know jack shit of you and have neither the need nor desire to know. Though I occasionally read your scurrilous statements hurled in the same manner of the Malvinistas, Kirchnerites and Peronists. From my perspective you're just another poster, as I, with some reason of another to be here. Most of them 'are better than everyone else, smarter, stronger, better educated and wealthier, at least in their own kingdom they are. You claim to be a brit.....living in SA,whatever, doesn't matter to me what you claim.
So the truth hurts me? Sure, whatever, if that's what you think from your side of the world......okay, go with it.
21 Captain Poppy
Aug 24th, 2013 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am disappointed by your ill considered reply after I extended the hand of friendship and got slapped in the face with it.
You reap what you sow “Buddy”.
Very prophetic words Chris, practice what you preach.
Aug 24th, 2013 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try not to be taken aback from my response. What was I thinking, but then I was re-bluing one of my seventy some odd guns while NASCAR was blasting away on the Christian News Network and chugging a few buds. I do what I can to try and not let truth get in the way as I wave the Stars and Stripes.
As I tell the RG's...at least the ones I do not know, spend some time in the places you tear into.......internet information hardly does anyplace justice. As interesting and “unbiased” as Mahr may be......America's extreme left needs a better leader than a self appointed, pious and pompous ass who hates anything that believes the contrary to him. There are better sources to get info about the USA from the liberals than Mahr, He's a comic.....at his best and least a hateful dich0tomy to the Tea baggers.
Hey Pops......what did you expect......he's not your buddy, Shakespeare's “Et Tu Brute” springs to mind.
Aug 24th, 2013 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Take no notice of him, his perception of the USA is based on media.....mine is not!
It was only a matter of time before he showed his true face, I have an idea what that face is. You call him Brit......maybe, but definitely not the white anglo saxon variety.
He ditched the UK for ever, like an immigrant would, he is stuck in SA and can only dream of living in the USA, Australia or Canada......where he thinks he should be able to live!
A bitter and twisted Expat with a huge chip on his shoulder .
You Pops should be more perceptive like MR Casper above......do you think I would have a second home in PA because I don't like the USA or the people?
I have an affinity......I have relatives from Pensacola, Atlanta, PA and surprisingly enough Boston (Lefleur...nickname..Frenchie!)........although they no longer live there!
I am no better or worse than you Pops, but ChrisR somehow thinks he is elevated....
Is that the way to extend the hand of friendship, by trashing someones Country and People?....Tell him to shove his hand of friendship where the Sun don't shine!
AVoice .....PA 17771
Guys,
Aug 24th, 2013 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chris is basically one of the 'good guys'.
Mostly insightful on SA matters,
and rarely bileous in his interractions
... what more could you want in a pen-pal?
23 Captain Poppy
Aug 24th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, now you have your own special little vitriolic companion A_Voice to back you up and help you recover from the trashing that I never gave you AND he has relatives all over America, perhaps.
I think the pair of you deserve each other.
I must admit I thought that you above all people would have been able to take the truth about how “yanks” are seen outside of America and how a lot of ordinary people keep well away from them.
Perhaps it’s the Bush / Blair legacy and the utter lies that both of them said and continued to defend in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I don’t know there is so much of the “America knows best” crap to pick from and we the Brits keep being dragged along with you by our imbecilic government.
......and there you have it, the true face of Anti-Americanism......based on what?
Aug 24th, 2013 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TV, Net, Papers.....
I thought Pops last reply was explaining an over reaction on his part.....but the ExCow-pat has to dive in and Trash a little more.....just for the hell of it.....See how perceptive I was......'I got a good handle on that turkey....for sure'!
“how a lot of ordinary people keep well away from them.”
Are you for real.......most ordinary people I know welcome Yanks with open arms!
How many Brits holiday in the States each year......and keep returning?
It's great to see the bigots confusing Government with people.....
If you haven't lived among Yanks in their own country......then you don't know crap.....ChrisR......the “Good Guy”......
What's it like having no Country that you actually belong to.....;-)))))
I don't lie and I don't pretend to be something I'm not.....unlike you.....a has been!
The Manager of Managers the Captain of the Captains of Industry......etc....blah de blah..etc!.......Whatever!
@27 A_Voice
Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol “...I don't pretend to be something I'm not...”
Even Milli Vanilli was more convincing...!
tut tut Mr Casper.......I pay you a compliment and how do you repay me?
Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pray do tell me where exactly I have pretended to be something I'm not, as you infer....
@29 A_Voice
Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regretfully I must decline your invitation. Judging by some of your previous exchanges on this subject, it could be dangerous to my mental health. Besides I'm laughing too hard.
Bon nuit my Patagonian, Canadian, Scottish, Scandanavian interlocutor.
Ahh......not so perceptive......another thinker that thinks I am Think.....oh well.....
Aug 24th, 2013 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Cause I am, whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the papers, the news, everyday I am
I don't know it's just the way I am
31 A_Voice
Aug 24th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, the little green eye again!
Yes, I have been a Technical Director of a GEC Company and from a family of poor origins but I worked harder AND smarter than my peers, which clearly includes you.
What have you done so far: we don’t know do we? Driven from Canada to Penn in under three hours, has a second home there, allegedly.
But why am I even posting to you when @25 and @30 do a far better job of rebutting you than I can be bothered to do for myself!
Now run along and play with Captain Poppy, IF he can stomach you, there’s a good boy.
32
Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“but I worked harder AND smarter than my peers, which clearly includes you.”
........Is that why I appear to have two homes in two continents.......can live in either and you are still begging to be accepted by a foreign country.. being the only place you can afford to retire to........:-)))))........Well done!
No US for you. No Australia for you. No Canada for you........
No living the American dream.......for you!
Don't you realise.......you have buggerall!......but memories of what once was!
Voice......I was talking to a friend of mine who works in government. Seems visas are similar to MMC's . What is the 21st digit in your visa......what letter or number I mean specifically?
Aug 24th, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, I think you are incorrect in calling Chris an anti-yank. Slinging words or insults hardly defines one as anti anything.
Visa........why would I need a Visa Pops......
Aug 24th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if I did......I am not fool enough to give you info......it probably denotes the country of origin......a bit like a social security no. showing what state you are from!
I'm not Stupid Pops!
BTW.......I know what Chris is......read him like a book.....once it's out it's out,,,,but my opinion.......no sense in you two falling out........You are the Master of your fate, you are the Captain of your Soul.
lol one digit of 32......lol
Aug 24th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SSN's can only define where they were issued, not where you live. But you wouldn't know that as a foreigner. My SSN was not issued in my birth state. It was issued in Massachusetts.....you have one in a thousand chance of figuring my first 3 digits.
Do you know how we all know you are Argentine? Your over inflated ego. Hey, whatever every happened to Pirate Hunter?
You really are dumb Pops......a foreigner wouldn't even know that American SSN's show what State they are from.......and I didn't mean Birth.....Doh.....Were you born with a SSN.......Doh......Do babies have a SSN?......For Goodness sake!
Aug 24th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now do you realise what I'm talking about when I say Yanks are Stupid?
It's always the same.......I have to notch down my friggin IQ to be able to converse with Yanks!......Kindergarten!
yes babies have ssn's................I love when you resort to insults.
Aug 24th, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you consider yourself a sociopathic liar or pathological liar? A strong case can be made for either in your situation. Considering you believe you've been to the USA, I'll go with pathological.
Oh....so now you are a foreigner again? You're not a citizen of the USA, that is certain. As a foreigner purchasing real estate, you would need legal credentials.
@31 A_Voice
Aug 25th, 2013 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0And a Dr Seuss lover as well!
There's a simple way to resolve this 'identity crisis' actually. Recently J.K.Rowling was revealed to be the author of a highly praised crime novel which was published under a pseudonym. Using a stylometric computer programme to compare the two works was enough to establish their shared authorship.
If you're well-heeled enough to afford residences on two different continents perhaps you can afford to commission the gentleman who performed the tests to analyse both Think and your posts - and any others who have been judged to be yours.
@ 38 Captain Poppy
Aug 25th, 2013 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reading the ridiculous posts of A_Voice I realise I have been unfair to you and would like to apologise over posting that “I think the pair of you deserve each other” because you do not.
A_Voice is correct in that I cannot go to Australia, I no longer have the GBP 1.5M (USD 2.55M) total wealth that I once had and of course, despite the “special relationship” Britain is supposed to have with the States, I cannot get any visa entitlement to actually live there apart from the three month visitor visa which offers no security at all.
Apart from what I have posted in the preceding paragraph A_Voice is purely an argie troll and of no consequence whatsoever.
Thanks also to Casper.
Told you I could read him like a book (Enid Blyton) one of course!
Aug 25th, 2013 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0....“despite the “special relationship” Britain is supposed to have with the States”
He really does resent the fact that he can't live in the States or down under.....poor soul......unlike me.....;-)
Casper
If you are so concerned....
Why not use the program yourself on my posts and whoever else you think I am......here is the freeware......
http://www.philocomp.net/humanities/signature
Pops I despair at your grasp of the English language......everyone is a foreigner, I know how parochial Yanks are......but yes, even you are a foreigner!
Pops I knew I could get him to apologise to you.....people are so easily manipulated...they are not even aware of it.....but the results are the same.
ChrisR is one of the easy ones.....as you are too.....I play the tune.....you dance!
Not necessary......I have thick skin.....I have to with my leaders of late. I think voice saw the recent interaction between you and I as an opportunity as a troll, hence calling you anti-yank which I never believed that. Once I stated that he turned back on me.....lol
Aug 25th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for voice........he's a wishful thinker and pathological liar. One time he is a foreigner owning property in the USA, which many do....just not him, another time he does not need a visa, but he is certainly not an American of the USA anyway. So he is either illegal/undocumented or never been here.
I find it hilarious that he choose Trout Run as his location of choose.....a piss hole of a location.....less than 2000 people live there with incomes at 55% of the nation income. Not he is stuck with that. Worse for him my company has DC just east of there and I am there once or twice a year. So he is really stuck to some serious internet searching getting to know that area. Wait until he knows that we are looking for a new, larger DC just west of Trout Run......lol. The lies pile up.
I think he failed to realize that all RE transactions are recorded, titled and in public information DB's, not to mention absolute identification is needed to close the transaction. Maybe he will say he has a green card.....for buying a house in the USA.....lol
He's a sociopathic or pathologic liar.......a case can be made for either.
@41 A_Voice
Aug 25th, 2013 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where did I say I was concerned? Amused would be a better description. I don't take it personally. I can see why someone might adopt such a strategy given the nationalistic machismo that infects this site at times. But you do so at the expense of your credibility. You might be successful at sowing distrust and discension amongst your adversary's but it's your loss if that's the extent of your ambitions.
Casper
Aug 25th, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am glad you are amused as I am.....shows you have a sense of humour or humor if you like.....
What I find amusing is.....I have told no lies.....they read what they want to see, they attack each other and show their true colours and what they really think ...at the drop of a hat.
It is not unusual to have a property in the US and poor Pops has never considered the possibilities of why someone would do that. It also annoys him for some reason....normal people would say, “hey great...lucky you do you enjoy it”
He doesn't even know much about the US......I could be Dual Nationality....Permanent Resident......Green Card holder or even Visa Waiver none of these requires a visa.
“You might be successful at sowing distrust and discension amongst your adversary's but it's your loss if that's the extent of your ambitions.”
I am apparently the 'Adversary'......and why... because I don't agree with the majorities point of view!
If everyone agreed it would be a pretty boring forum......I add spice.
Everyone that supports......gets a pat on the back.......everyone against is a Troll...
If this forum is some sort of Leisure activity, then it must have some Entertainment value......How much learning and research goes into the views of the posters and how vivaciously do some go, to refute a statement.
.....I serve a purpose and have already fulfilled my ambitions.....nothing to prove!
@44 A_Voice
Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't buy it. Messing with people's heads to probe people's vulnerabilities isn't the same as provoking debate. Your approach is closer to nihilism, scorched earth and to hell with the consequences.
So voice will we meet when I am in PA in a few weeks? Or.....as chance has it you will not be in the USA? I will guess you will never be in the USA when I am in PA. I find it mildly amusing that you make assumptions on me and make a leap of faith and derive at conclusions. I on the other hand will take an assumption and ask you questions that you never ask. Besides a pathologic liar, you also exhibit narcissistic and paranoia tendencies. fear giving a 21st digit in a 32 digit number? Duel citizenship........bahahahahahahaha.
Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Personally I reached my jaded level and you are no longerworth responding do. Have a great live in Argentina, you should be proud what you fuher did for the fatherland.
45
Aug 25th, 2013 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well you may be right.....I can be mercenary.....and can spot an approach....
Though if you see the sequence of events......I post on an article.....I am attacked personally.....I respond in kind...
...for example this thread...
Post 1.....
Post 4...
Post 12.....only repeating what ChrisR said......not attacking a person!
Post 13 a personal attack by Pops.....
After that they attack each other with personal insults.....
After that.....it's like a bar room brawl.....it's a free for all......old wounds and spare no one!
.....and yet even though you had your jibes......no personal attack from me at all.....because no history of insults, like there has been from those two....
You figure it.....and if you watch my posts you will see that I lay off people when I think I may have pushed too far and crossed a line.
@47 A_Voice
Aug 25th, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol. A hint of genuine humility and then you take it all back. I find myself thinking only of hackneyed cliché's so I should shut up before I say something really dumb. Good luck to you and yours.
Oh, and I should have said “What's so FUNNY about peace, love and understanding ”. I'm getting old... It sucks.
Casper
Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well good luck to yourself......don't be so despondent.......I think you'll find that most people don't mean anything they say on here....in reality, no one likes to see the common folk suffer whatever nationality....
There is a bit of a troll in all of us......as long as there is no permanent damage.....and Pops, ChrisR, Anglotino et al can take it and still come back for more, there are vulnerable people on here......they are easy to spot and wear their hearts on their sleeve......I avoid them if possible...
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