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China will build and finance two dams in Patagonia equivalent to 10% of Argentine power demand

Thursday, August 22nd 2013 - 23:43 UTC
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Argentina's government this week awarded a 4 billion dollars contract for the construction of two hydroelectric dams to a consortium led by China Gezhouba (Group) Co. and which includes Argentine firms Electroingenieria SA and Hidrocuyo SA. Read full article

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  • golfcronie

    Why not wind power, plenty of it down there, could wind Crissie up ( mention FALKLANDS ) and she could create all the wind power needed for Santa Cruz.But seriously why not wind power, you only need turbines and heh presto, localised power. Unforetunately you would run out of names to give them, much better to call a dam after you deceased husband. what is it with Argentinians and naming things after people, must be ego I suspect.Problem with dams is the power is a long way away from the consumer.
    El Chocon dam in Neuquen supplies power to BA 1200 kms away, how much power is lost on the way.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • trenchtoast

    I wonder if a little bit of that 4 billion will find its way to the Seychelles.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @2 trenchtoast

    I wonder if ANY of that 4 billion will find it's way to the project? Most of it will end up in the Seychelles.

    As for the Chinese, make sure they pay up front, and in US dollars.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Were these the dams previously banned because of environmental damage?

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    IF they ever get built I wonder if they will have a hole in them to commemorate Nestor's unique boss-eyed 'beauty' feature?

    Mind you, if the argies have ANYTHING to do with the actual construction (other than pocketing the money) they will be lucky if it stops at one hole.

    I will believe it when it happens.

    LOL’s

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Five YEARS. So that's US$5.5 plus billion argieland will have to spend in the meantime. This will no doubt come from the debts argieland is refusing to pay. I do hope the US Supreme Court rules that argieland must pay. And authorises seizure of every available argie asset.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Hydroelectric power: good green renewable power. Perhaps we could look at damming some of our rivers in Patagonia too.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • warteiner

    @Chris: How is your mum, long time no seen her!

    Send my regards!

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Maybe it is time tp ask for money as they just lost their court case appeal:

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/139076/bondholder-fight-argentina-loses-us-appeal-sc-appeal-resolution-pending

    SCOTUS is all that is left is they accept it.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    With all the money China is putting forward, it makes me wonder if CFK will make some new enemies seeing as she can't be trusted with money even a bake sale for children, let alone a major construction project.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @7
    Dique El Chocon supplies hydo power to Neuquen and BA ( on the river Limay ) Dique Cerros Colorados ( regulating dam on the river Negro ) serving Neuquen and Cippoletti. All the above were designed by the British firm Sir Alexander Gibb & Partners ( Chocon was built by the Italian firm Impregilo SA ) in 1967-1970

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Argentina will get the dams built and then default on the payments. It's the Argie way.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Damn, dams, railway carriages, shale exploration, soy farms etc, etc.

    Wonder how long Before we start reading prices on the Blue Yuan?

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 8 warteiner

    With your self-confessed super intellect I would have thought that even you would have realised that at the age of 67 my beloved parents are both dead.

    You are truly an edifying spectacle to behold, true argie shithead of the first order. Managed to go anywhere on the coach with your drunken mates this year. No money! Don't worry, with TMBOA on her final crash and burn dive of the country you will be eating dog shit soon.

    Oh, you ARE eating dog shit now? Well, you deserve it, watch out for the intestinal worms!

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    As Argentina are bitching about the bio-diesel tariffs the EU are applying, why do they export it when they have a shortage of diesel?

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    15 Pete Bog

    It's one of the few things they can sell and get dollars for.

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Argentina, the South American whore!

    Selling her ass to the Chinese, funny enough, for their Yankee dollars!

    Aug 23rd, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Were these the dams previously banned because of environmental damage?

    Think .... do you know?

    Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    The dam called Nester Kirchner will definately be built, how could it not.

    Aug 24th, 2013 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    wow, that's dumb.

    It'd be funny if the countries upriver started damming.

    but yeah, not good for the water ecosys.

    Aug 24th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Ed

    Isn't there a Chinese copy of a Lancaster made for a film, knocking about? The FuAA Lancasters cannot fly, so should the RAF's last flying one and the Chinese copy train up for a Dambuster raid when Argentina defaults.

    Aug 24th, 2013 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    It'll be interesting to see how the Chinese would react, if the Argentine government tried to screw them over.

    I doubt they'd invade Argentina, their current ability to militarily project themselves beyond their own borders is limited at best, but they'd damn well make sure that Argentina NEVER received a penny from anyone in the future.

    What the Argentine government doesn't understand is the mentality of the Chinese.

    They are a proud people with a long and rich history of inventiveness, wisdom and truth. Above all they believe in respect.

    The Argentine government doesn't understand respect. They expect to get it, but never give it, and don't understand that it has to be earned.

    The Chinese are certainly a people and a country that deserves and has, indeed, earned respect. They also respect other's, even if they don't necessarily agree with them.

    But p!ss off the Chinese, and Argentina will truly be finished. Cut out of all international markets, cut off from one of the biggest importers of soy and fuel in the world.

    They have very long memories. Beware Argentine government, the Chinese neither forgive nor forget any slights against them.

    Aug 24th, 2013 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    This is priceless.
    You lot are so butthurt and it clearly shows through in your posts.
    I'm not going to increase the pain.
    Merely point in its direction and laugh.
    And laugh.

    And laugh...

    Aug 25th, 2013 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    23 Stevie

    But we will see who is correct before long!

    Aug 25th, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @23 Priceless? Indeed you are. Although, attributable to you, the word is probably “worthless”. Let's see whether you can “understand”. These dams, if built on schedule, are FIVE YEARS away. Five long, cold years. Personally, I don't give a toss. But would you like to hear a joke. Dams in China can take up to 30 years to get to the point where they actually supply power. But try this lovely example. The Guxian Dam on the Luo River was started in 1958. It was finally completed in 1993. Isn't that good? 35 years. Will argieland be supplying the coolies? If so, I wonder how long it will be before the argie coolies learn what “work” is?

    Try this clue. Argieland doesn't really have a car industry. All it does is put parts together. Dams are a bit different. You won't be finding the page of instructions that says “insert part B in slot C”. And it's argieland. They'll get it wrong anyway. As ChrisR says, we'll wait and see. 2018? 2019?

    But I do apologise for my figures. In @6, I suggested that argieland will have to pay US$5.5 billion for energy imports over that five years. Turns out to be more like US$65 billion. Wouldn't it be cheaper to pay off the debts? Argieland will now be relying on one Chinese consortium. Let's see who finishes up butthurt.

    Aug 25th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    conq
    Great.
    In the meantime.
    Here.
    Have some vaseline.

    Easier that way... Ask Anglolatino...

    ;)

    Aug 25th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Guzz you remind me of the pirate hunter at times, always needing to insert someones sexuality into someplace it does not belong. Perhaps you were man raped and have not gotten often it, or you enjoyed it and struggle with that. Do yourself a favor and take it out on your nits before they grow into full fledged lice.....do the world a favor.

    Aug 25th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Good one Stevie!

    Feel more like a man now?

    Aug 26th, 2013 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    26 Stevie

    You are starting to lose it, just like you did with the Guzz tag towards the end and we never “heard” from you for six months until your latest incarnation.

    Such a shame, you CAN be inciteful when you try.

    Aug 26th, 2013 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Stevie and A_Voice, a solo duet??????????????

    Aug 26th, 2013 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    30 Simon68

    I think it's A_Voice and Redp0ll (note the zero for the “o”) who are cloned. But who knows and more to the point WGAF?

    Aug 26th, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Don't worry lads, you will all get what you deserve. No more, no less.

    I will try to keep it in the level you choose yourselves...

    Aug 26th, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Stevie

    You chose this level, no one else.

    Own what you are!

    Aug 26th, 2013 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Nah Anglolatino, you need to read conq's posts. Soon enough you'll see him do a Manning.
    Something like “My name is Berta and I'm in fact a sheep...”
    As for your posts, I can't help to think that your only interest in this site, as an Australian, would be to have a free shot at SA in general and Arg in particular.

    Well, guess what... We have our fun too.

    ;)

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Stevie

    Your posts are making less and less sense over the past few weeks. Understandable since things don't seem to be going your way.

    If you wish to read Conq's posts then do so. If you wish to raise my homosexuality for no reason then do so. Not only did it make you look pretty pathetic, but after castigating that I do the same thing, you're now a hypocrite.

    Here's you back in May:
    “Anglotón
    I know many gay men.They don't feel the need to flaunt their sexuality as if they needed some kind of acknowlegdment.
    You on the other hand, have told everybody you are gay plenty of times now, not counting the celebrities you share your fantasies of.
    I understand the kick you got from making your sexuality official, but there is a reason people don't end every post with “byw, I'm hetero”.”

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/15/falklands-current-cruise-season-much-quieter-and-rather-turbulent

    Seems it is now you that is bringing up my sexuality. You are doing about as well as Think did on that thread when he did the same thing.

    As for the rest of your post thinking you know me.... PMSL. You just proved, that for all the information I share about myself, you still have no idea who I am.

    A free shot? LOL. I don't need one I'm already eligible for residency. And I sure as hell wouldn't choose Argentina for anything longer than 6 months of uni.

    If your idea of having fun is to use other people's sexuality to denigrate - go right ahead. Only one of us has come out of this looking good.

    So sorry straight boy.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Anglolatino
    What?
    Is it bad to be homosexual???
    How can I denigrate when stating facts?
    Just like Lucho being a racist for calling a black man black, you mean?

    You are right in me not knowing you.
    Where you fail is when you assume that I care...

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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