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Falklands’ lawmaker arrives in Brasilia for round of contacts to promote the Islands

Tuesday, August 27th 2013 - 02:41 UTC
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Falkland Islands lawmaker Dick Sawle is expected on Tuesday in Brasília, capital of Brazil where he will explain the Islanders’ decision to remain a British Overseas Territory and give an idea of life in the South Atlantic archipelago, its economy and social achievements as a prosperous, democratic community. Read full article

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  • travellingscotsman

    Cristina must be kicking herself knowing that her government is responsible for a new resurgent Falklands government. The RG bullies will not win this - they will not have the last word on the rights of free people.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    The Argentines will foolishly dismiss this visit as irrelevant as the Brazilian government support their position on sovereignty.

    However, once people are informed of what really goes on in the Islands and the islanders point out information regarding their history, South Americans will not be impressed that their governments have been withholding the truth from them.

    All this would never have happened had the Argentines not started bullying a country smaller than them, and it has opened up the visiting MLA can of worms.

    Another thing the South Americans are indoctrinated on is that Falkland law is under the control of a governor.

    They might then be surprised to see it is not the governor visiting countries, but the islanders themselves to get their point across.

    @1 A rather lengthy way of saying what you have said TravellingScotsman.

    The cat's out of the bag now, and the Islanders have only just started.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yinzer

    I cannot for the life of me figure out why the Argentines cannot accept the fact that the Falklanders don't want to be part of Argentina. The vote was overwhelmingly against them, yet they persist in this imperialistic desire to take over the islands. Get over it, Argentina.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Devolverislas

    “All the activity that is going on in the islands” (Ambassador Ellis) is a red herring. So is the mix of nationalities. The real issue is the territory which the Falkland Islanders are occupying. Even the Brazilians can see that the territory of the Islas Malvinas belongs to the South American mainland – specifically to Argentina - and not to the United Kingdom.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    The real issue is the Falkland islands belong to the Falkland Islanders. Not the big bullies next door. Many families have lived on the islands longer than Argentina has exited as a nation. Compare this to say the Channel islands. I don't hear France going on about how they are nearer France than England.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    4 Falkland Islands were actually attached to South Africa not South America. Never judge a book by its cover.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    4 Sock puppet....and how can they “see it” have they got xray vision? Argentinian/Spanish/Italian/Nazi colonialists will never get The Falkland Islands. Your lies are being unpicked country by country. Painful though it is, it will continue. The referendum has totally sunk you bid.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    4 Devolverislas (#)....LOL...and then shakes head....Man oh man you really DONT get it ...do you..!!..Such ignorance explains why Arjuntina really is going backwards...!!

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @4 Perhaps you can explain something. If “the Brazilians can see that the territory of the Islas Malvinas belongs to the South American mainland – specifically to Argentina”, why are all these Brazilians going to be listening to MLA Sawle? He will no doubt explain, and prove, how many lies argieland has told. Especially the lies that argieland has told, and continues to tell, at the U.N. He may mention argieland's continuing breaches of the UN Charter. There may be mention of argieland's criminally fraudulent foreign debt. Argieland's inflation rate. Argieland's crime. He may well mention how self-determination trumps territorial integrity. Particularly how the Falkland Islands has NEVER been argie territory. An aspiration perhaps, but never a reality. Brazilians don't seem to like corruption and lies. So they aren't going to be too keen on argieland after he's finished. And the word will spread. Won't it?

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Most Brazilians I have met in the UK can't stand Argentines, they dislike them with a passion. It's only the government that are mindlessly flogging the same old rubbish. The change is coming :-)

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    So a British politician (who acts as fisherman) born in Britain, has to go to convince the Brazilians (not their government) to support the British occupation of the Malvinas Argentinas Islands.
    Sure, the few “Indian blonds” (as I said pirate hypocritical government in 1982) remaining, do not have sufficient training to such a “delicate” mission, it seems.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    Well when is he going to be arrested for falsely misrepresenting Falklands as anything other than a remote corner of a cobbled together province of Argentina that couldn't even be given province status until after 1982. So then, tell me, when will be extradite to Argentina for trial (for anything, you name it, it's not exactly a country that believes in the rule of law, they can make something up like they do with everything else). They can even go soft and deport him directly to London for traveling under a bogus diplomatic passport since the Falklands don't exist. There is only las Malvinas originally populated, as is all of Argentina, by indigenous Argentines who sprung up from the ground in their current demographics in a divine act of special creationism, them being Gods truly Chosen people (forget the Jews and Koreans), after all.

    Well? Cuff him and stuff him into an airplane, he doesn't even have to reach his destination, just toss the criminal out the back... isn't that's what Argentines do?

    I thought Brazil was solidly behind Argentina on this? Or are they? I thought EVERYONE was behind Argentina on this? Or are they all there just to laugh at them behind their back.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JIB

    The good thing is that brazilian government gives a flying fuck about this visit.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @11
    ”So a British politician (who acts as fisherman) born in Britain, has to go to convince the Brazilians (not their government) to support the British occupation of the Malvinas Argentinas Islands.”

    He has been elected by the people of the Falkland Islands, not the British population living in the UK (who do not have the right to vote in the Islands.

    On the basis you do not like the fact Mr Sawle has emigrated to the Islands, then perhaps you should eject all Argentine citizens not born in Argentina?

    He may or may not not convince Brazilians, but if Argentine politicians did not lie about the Falklands and the UN , Mr Sawle would not be in Brazil to correct those mistruths.

    CFK lies out her teeth all the time pretending to be a lawyer when she couldn't even pass her law exams.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Brazil will listen to what suits Brazil, not Argentina,

    Brazil will have her, interests in mind not argentines,

    Besides, if trade picks up and billions are up for grabs,
    Who will Brazil put first,
    Her interests, or argentines interest,
    It seems some are more brainwashed than we thought,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    The Falkland’s will grow, Brazil may benefit, and argentina will lose again and again,
    Yet somehow brainwashing her people that it is another victory..lol.
    .

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I'm not here to hurt anyone. But, it is necessary to put an end to all this. Finding a middle ground that can be good for everyone. Where the talk about sovereignty can be scheduled in 20 or 30 years. And we can, for now, live in peace, leveraging our strengths. Where we can meet, sing, grow, live and love. Ladies and gentlemen, your duty is to find alternatives.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Hehe I like that......in the previous article it was...“students’ organisations”
    ......and in this one....“academia and intellectuals.”
    Students......“academia and intellectuals”.... that is stretching the imagination a bit!

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @16 Brasileiro. Kicking the can down the road isn't going to change anything unless there is a RADICAL change in Argentina w.r.t the islands. At best at this point the Argentina can reconcile with the Islands, give up its indefensible claim (if it's so iron clad, they'd have taken it the ICJ by now and won), and shoot for a collegial of not cool neighborliness with the islands rather than treating it like a defiant land they must control. Meanwhile the UK stance on the Islands as been to gradually move towards a more collegial relationship towards independence and commonwealth membership -- a state of collegiality that Argentina would never tolerate if it were to be annexed against the residents' clearly stated will into a province that didn't even exist until long after 1982.

    Argentina, for the most artlessly and transparently childish reasons, walked away from talks with the UK and the Islands and as such walked away from their most celebrated resolution 2065 in February. Enablers of Argentina can spin that anyway they want but outside of the bubble, that is what they did. The only other conduit they have aside form winning the same war they lost in 1982 is the ICJ which they also refuse because they know they have a very weak case in comparison to the UK and most importantly, the islanders themselves. C24, which enables Argentina, can only help the islands towards self-determination, anything else violates its mandate and the UN Charter. Britain meanwhile provides protection for the Islands against Argentine aggression until it is ready to claim full sovereignty -- at the explicit request of the Islanders as shown this year.

    Meanwhile the Islanders want to be left alone to set their own affairs and live in peace Asking them to find an “alternative” or “middle ground” to that while not holding the Argentines accountable to the facts of reality is like asking the 1940's Denmark to seek a middle ground between Nazi Germany and ... well Denmark.

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    14

    Do not understand me, fool? Political BRITISH. Which is exactly the same as saying ENGLISH agent to defend the “sacred interests” of HIS MAJESTY BRITISH. Or do you believe that we suck your finger, asshole?!
    The old British policy: “divide and rule”:

    http://malvinasislasargentinas.blogspot.com.ar/2013/08/comitiva-kelper-viaja-brasil.html

    Aug 27th, 2013 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #19 It is you sir who is a fool, and quite a spectacular one.

    Tell me, even if the UK did take the Falklands by force in 1833 why should it be returned to Argentina? Between 1833 and now there have been numerous territorial changes, should they all go back? Would Argentina care to return the vast swathe of Paraguay it stole? or the entirety of Patagonia? Why 1833? Why not 1733, Argentina to Spain. Why not 1433, Argentina to the Amerindians.

    This is just pathetic irredentism designed to distract the population of Argentina from larger problems. After all, the Argentine government refuses to take the argument to the one body that could make a decision, the ICJ.

    Seriously, I actually feel bad for you guys, wasting so much time and energy on a lost cause and not even a righteous one - you want to destroy the lives of people who have never done anything to you. You should be ashamed.

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @19

    And your point is what?

    The Falkland Islands are a BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY.

    They don't have to convince ANYBODY of their right to be a BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY, just the same as Argentina doesn't have to convince anyone of their right to be Argentine.

    What the Falkland Islanders have decided to do is counter Argentine rhetoric (lies) and point out the truth.

    The Argenine lies to its Latin American neighbours are quite ludicrous, some of what has been said by the likes of Nicaragua and Venezuala at the UN isn't even the untrue Argenine version..but complete fantasy.

    It is up to them as a BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY to counter Argentine lies as they see fit. It is up to us as Britain to make sure you are too shit scared to invade again and threaten their status as a self-determined BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY.

    But just for me Jose, can you answer the following two questions:

    1) How many people were evicted on January 6th 1833
    2) How long had they been on the islands

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @4 Where is the concept in International Law of one territory “belonging” to another on grounds of location?

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #19
    You seem to be getting quite upset Jose. As the Brasilians back you 100%, what is there to worry about ? They will see through his “lies” and denounce him for usurping the territory of their greatest friend and ally. He will be made to look stupid by the mass demonstrations of popular support in Brasilia and Rio.....or will he ?

    Divide and rule. It has worked quite well throughout history

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    Well did they arrest-deport/extradite him yet or what? Still waiting for “justice” to be served... The Falklands don't exist... Sawle and the rest of the islanders are illegally trespassing and ethically cleansed the “pure” Argentines who have always been there since god made man. Any diplomatic passport on such pretense is fraud. He shouldn't be let in the country in the first place....

    Everyone is behind Argentina on this. So let's see Tricky Dicky do the perp walk. Anyone? Anyone?

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Arrest?? Why???
    We let people enjoy some sun in between this polar wave weather of South America.
    You yes seem to be arresting people (the brazilian patner of a jounalist), but its not a practice we do here.

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

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    Aug 28th, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #25
    At least we let them land IN the aircraft in which they took off.
    The Argentinian way is to shove them out the door before the aircraft lands.
    Thicko, he was not arrested, he was detained. If he had been arrested then he would not have been allowed to leave the country.
    I presume that no one in your God forsaken country is ever stopped at immigration and questioned....of course not !
    The word people is plural, who else was detained ?

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    The word people is plural, who else was detained ?
    I remember a brazilian been killed in the subway, because UK police “suspected” he was a terrorist. And he was absolutelly innocent.
    Why didnt you arrest or delay the journalist too 9 hours ????

    Aug 28th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #28
    Yes, I agree that it was a terrible thing that happened to the poor innocent man killed by the police. Are you inferring that “Brazilians” are being singled out for special treatment ?
    Why didnt you arrest or delay the journalist too 9 hours ????

    I'm sorry but I have no special insight into the workings of our security service and neither do you..

    I presume that NO innocent people EVER get shot by the police in your country.

    Aug 29th, 2013 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    innocent people “suspected” of terrorism isnt shot here.
    1. Terrorist attack to the israeli embassy and AMIA, it went to justice. Not much results, but it went to justice.
    2. and during dictatorship, state repression of the junta killed “suspected” what they did call “terrorists”, but militars went to justice too.

    Aug 29th, 2013 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #30 He wasn't shot because they thought he was a terrorist - there are plenty of people we think are terrorists who we don't routinely shoot. He was shot because the security services thought he was about to commit an act of terrorism on a crowded train. I hope even you can see the difference.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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