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Argentine politicians warn Uruguay on possible expansion of pulp mill production capacity

Thursday, September 5th 2013 - 03:53 UTC
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The bilateral conflict between Argentina and Uruguay over the UPM/Botnia pulp mill, on the Uruguayan side of the Uruguay River is once again leading to tension between the two neighbours amid reports that the plant’s Finnish owners plan to increase production from 1.1 to 1.3 million tons of cellulose paste per year. Read full article

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  • Simon68

    The pollution levels at the moment in the Uruguay river are at the allowable levels EXCEPT in the outflow region of Gualeguaychu city main drainage!!!!!!!!!!!

    This government must stop making trouble with our neighbours. It is only another way of providing a smoke screen to hide the economic and social disasters due to the kirchnerite plague!!!!!!!!!!

    Sep 05th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Exactly Simon. BTW, is CARP .Comision Administradora del Rio de La Plata, monitoring pollution levels in that estuary, particularly the untreated filth that Buenos Aires spewes out into the river ?

    Sep 05th, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Somebody is going to have to explain to me how 0.2 million tons is 25% of 1.1 million tons. Still, 25% sounds so much worse than 18%, doesn't it? Why does Uruguay let itself get entangled in these bi-national organisations? Further south there is CARP (a very appropriate title considering argie involvement), Comisión Administradora del Río de la Plata, that has stalled the dredging of the Martin Garcia channel for over TEN years. A major obstruction for vessels trying to reach Nueva Palmira. That would be the second most important commercial port in Uruguay. Uruguay should withdraw from any bi-national bodies. One of the worst parts is that Uruguay has to tell argieland what it wants to do and present all sorts of data. Let argieland find out the hard way. When the production increases!

    Sep 05th, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Conq. Any uni lateral withdrawal of Uruguayan delegates from CARU or CARP would be interpreted either as a) avictory or b) a hostile act by the Buenos Aires government and our foriegn ministry, which is about about much use as a dead jellyfish in defending our national interests and would fold. Perhaps a solution might be for one of the Uruguay delegates on each commission to resign and request the UN through the ICJ to appoint a delegate in thier place. I dont see how Argentina could object to that and then perhaps some sort of control could be established on the BA hegenomy on these bodies and at least the ICJ would have first hand knowlege of what shenanigans the portenos are up to
    Perhaps its also time that ROU should complain to the C24 committee of the UN ofthe Argentine imperial ambitions to recoup the Banda Oriental by stealth as a colony

    Sep 05th, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Let us hope that Vasquez will follow his previous actions by not even talking to TMBOA.

    The ROU should tell these crooks to leave the plant alone and keep their nose and filth out of the River.

    I thought the decision had been made to dredge the channel to the Uruguay port or has Toplansky given Pepe his orders to stop it, it all seems very quiet?

    Sep 05th, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @4 I understand what you're saying BUT I am not suggesting the unilateral withdrawal of Uruguayan delegates. I am suggesting that the Uruguayan government PUBLICLY announce that the argie government has been using these organisations AND provide the evidence. Including the farcical “pulp mills dispute” where the pollution was shown to be originating in Gualeguaychu. Make it 100% clear that argieland has acted, or failed to act, in bad faith. As these organisations depend on Uruguayan co-operation, state that the organisations no longer have any legal validity in Uruguayan. Uruguay may need additional suitable armed naval vessels with orders to open fire on any trespassing argie vessels. I suggest that Uruguay also closes, or perhaps destroys, any cross-border bridges. Sever diplomatic relations and expel the argie diplomatic mission. If Uruguay wants to be a proper, respected “nation”, it has to stand up for itself against anyone. Consider this, on 21 November 1806 Napoleon Bonaparte instituted the “Continental System”, an attempt to embargo British trade with Europe. It remained in force until 11 April 1814. Did it help him? No. Did Britain's trade suffer? Yes it did. Did we let it stop us? No. In 1804, Napoleon's French Empire population numbered 44 million. And Britain's population was a little over 16 million. Get the idea? You fight. You never give up.

    Sep 05th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    6 Conqueror
    “You fight. You never give up”

    This is for a country that had the English Channel between it and the belligerents at a time when modern ships, modern firearms and the internal combustion engine had not been invented.

    So you expect Uruguay to have 5 times the battle? (there are just 3 M of us).

    Plus there is the LatAm effect of fighting your brother. I cannot see it myself and most of my friends have no time for the argies: but carry a rifle and kill them? Not a chance, even if the Peronista scum would do so to them.

    If you live here you just have to go with the flow. My wife cannot understand the change in me because I used to be somewhat ‘forceful’ shall we say?

    Sep 05th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    “Uruguay may need additional suitable armed naval vessels with orders to open fire on any trespassing argie vessels. I suggest that Uruguay also closes, or perhaps destroys, any cross-border bridges. Sever diplomatic relations and expel the argie diplomatic mission.”..ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

    Yes, and Paraguay must bomb Atucha I, Atucha II and Embalse Rio Tercero to cause a radioctive clud that kills millon of people...

    I still remember the guy that suggested that the UK must use nulcear weapons against Spain due to the Gibraltar issue..

    Can you immagine?..A navala battle in the River Plate?..by the way as both cities can be seen from each shore..rockets could be launched !!!!!

    Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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