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Cristina Fernandez meets WTO chief and blasts world powers ‘protectionism’
With a busy agenda prior to her G20 Summit address, Argentine President Cristina Fernández renewed her criticism of so called world powers’ “protectionism” and warned about a “crisis of the multilateral system” both in the economic and political arenas. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCompletely agree. They are the world's most protectionist nations, and that is why they are having food inflation without any economic growth. Both in Europe and North America growth has been averaging 0% last 5 years yet food inflation is agout 5.1% each year. Then they wonder why the middle class is becoming a thing of the past.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can I assumne that Argentina is not a 'developed' nation then ?
Sep 06th, 2013 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Sep 06th, 2013 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias, do you really not understand that there is not a country in the world that truly trusts or respects Argentina?
Ask Brazil what they think about your trade barriers.
Ask Uruguay's leaders what they REALLY think about CFK and her predecessors. Remarkably frank, are they not, when they believe the microphones are turned off.
Ask Ecuador what they think about solidarity re: Yanqui oil companies.
Don't bother asking the Chilean's what they think. Your government clearly doesn't care.
All governments lie or spin the truth to some extent. With Argentina it appears to be official policy - there's so much to hide isn't there?
I can't see what the problem is, we Chileans don't seem to be having any hassles accessing any market other than Argentina.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0It does make me giggle a bit when I read these comments from officials..... “Argentina was still suffering the negative consequences of the Malvinas war and from the last dictatorship, which ended in 1983”. Surely it's drawing a long bow, but it's definitely on form because as we know they are always the victims.
Argentina is still suffering from the FALKLANDS WAR, that would be the war they started. Are they somehow hinting at wanting compensation for us defending the Falklands from Argentinian aggression. The negative consequences of the Falklands War are that Argentina is seen around the world as an aggressive bully. And the right of self determination of the Falkland islanders has been given a world stage. Which from the FI POV is are very positive consequence.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on then, Crissy Wissy, let's see you take down your trade barriers. EVERYBODY complains about them. That includes your “buddy”, Brazil. Do you think it might be because you produce crap? Your agricultural produce is contaminated, your meat is contaminated, your “industrial” goods are crap because you can't even follow the instructions to assemble parts another country has made. Got an argie car manufacturer? No. Got a ship-builder? No. And you're crooked as well!
Sep 06th, 2013 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Casper you have to realize that titti tobi is a mere teen that has never flown anywhere, never left mendoza. He is left to make statements of opinions of what he is told to think and what he must read online.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's like if you eat shit your entire life but was told it is Filet Mignon, you would not know any different. That's tobi. When he gets cornered in the ridiculous thinks that he thinks is the reality of the world, he runs to momma.
With the G20 in Russia, I am almost expecting him to come out with a Russian persona.
Anyway....I think it's comical that asslips kirchner seems to think that the incoming president of the WTO will be siding with her because he is SA. Even if he was to have thought that way, Asslips burns every bridge she crosses.
CFK. Mad as a bag of spiders
Sep 06th, 2013 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Cap'n Poppy
Sep 06th, 2013 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well... I don't think that being young or not travelling afar precludes you from having a less jaundiced view of the rest of the world. I seem to recall he once had a sense of humour. I guess defending the indefensible has worn him down. It's a shame.
What no mention of the Falklands? Disappointed
Sep 06th, 2013 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0They still have an atrocious dictatorship....albeit an elected one.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I see it, trade benefits from the removal of trade barriers whether those in the rich developed world or those within the underdeveloped world. The underdeveloped world only becomes developed by trade with the developed world. The asymmetries of trade become narrower as the 'lesser' partner in trade progressively develops the range of products commanding the same added value as the 'greater' trading partner.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0But the key to breaking down these barriers is trust.
Good faith is paramount. And every act of bad faith in trading that betrays that trust will inevitably make that county and its people progressively more poor.
In spite of these tactical errors in Argentina's trading policies - and in many ways CFK has proved to be her own worst enemy,
much of what CFK says here is true,
and much of her response to the vultures who bought up the bonds to try and make a killing is beginning to make sense to me.
Casper...I do believe having travelled and seeing someplace you criticize s far different than forming an opinion based of what you read from someone else's opinion. Reading his statements from above is yet only one example.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do not see all the people of Argentina as dumb, arrogant and indoctrinated morons as some do. If I were to base my opinions of Argentina of things I've read it would be far different to what it is.
Argentina complaining about protectionism... hahahahhah.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12 Geoff
Sep 06th, 2013 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“But the key to breaking down these barriers is trust” - agreed.
As to your last sentence, if the Vulture Funds, whom I regard with the same contempt as loan sharks, never got paid, I wouldn't shed any tears, but I maintain it's nonetheless in Argentina's best interests to pay all of their debts. CFK would have us believe that Argentina is as vulnerable as an impoverished African nation. My perspective is simply that NML and their brethren are simply more sophisticated thieves than this latest outbreak of Peronism.
@13 Cap
No doubt travelling to a place about which you have preconceived notions can certainly help change your attitude, but if you have an open mind you likely won't develop those attitudes in the first place. Tobias' positions are often so preposterous that I often wonder whether he really believes what he writes or it's simply a way of 'flippin' the bird'.
My positions are jauncided because they are a mirror reflection of YOUR positions on Argentina. Think about this statement.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some of my positions are preposterous yet they are the same positions your nations have taken for decades, and that only in the last 10 years Argentina has decided to “imitate”. Preponderant among them is “hypocrisy”.
You are the most supercilious societies there are, and then when others play with your own set of cards you cry!
When Europe, the UK, North America, China, Russia, and the rest actually become HONEST, do not LIE, and DO as they say, then maybe Argentina would be compelled change. But if you don't, no reason why we should. To open our trade when you keep yours 100% closed to us would be Harakiri. No thanks.
Countries like the UK and the USA are the real protectionists, that is an awkward reality, because they are the ones starting wars and invading countries, but yet they have the face to talk about morals huh
Sep 06th, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is the Euros and Northams think Argentines like eveyone else will simply cower to their hypocrisy and GALL.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gondo, Can you please name a war recently started by Britain. Please enlighten us?
Sep 06th, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 015. I don't think Toby believes most of what he posts. I think most of the time he is just trolling to get a rise out of us.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0If he really believed it I guess he'd provide some links for proof the the outlandish statements but alas he can't.
Silly stupid boy.
@19
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, Libya, Iraq, should I go on?
@20
I'm the only one who posts links here, the ONLY one.
Okay, show me a link for this:
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0To open our trade when you keep yours 100% closed to us would be Harakiri
specifically where ANY COUNTRY OF NOTE has blocked 100% of Argentina's trade.
http://www.globalmeatnews.com/Industry-Markets/WTO-considers-US-Argentina-beef-import-dispute
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0US bans 100% of argentine beef.
Not that we would export you any, since Argentina consumption is so strong we eat it all ourselves.
@23 yes, asados all day, every day hehe
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0blocked 100% of Argentina's trade is what you said. Beef is not the only export you have to the USA now is it?
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You don't have enough to export anyway so stop harping on about something you can't fulfil even if we allowed it.
BTW we do allow lots and lots of other countries beef in the USA just not ones that are diseased.
21 The Truth PaTroll
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“LOL, Libya, Iraq, should I go on?”
YES!!! Please go on, ( when you are not being a retard!!! ) LOL!!
When did we start a war in Libya then???
Let me guess, keeping up on current affairs is what other people do.... right?
@17, a cursory glance at the stuff in this very room I'm sitting in and where it's all from yet again proves that you are, yet again, a liar and a fool.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 017 Gonzo22
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are, at best, woefully mis-informed
At worst, you are a liar.
“Not that we would export you any, since Argentina consumption is so strong we eat it all ourselves.”
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? How uninformed you are. It is true that exports are declining but one of the main beefs (see what I did there) I hear from Argentines is that all the best meat goes for export and they are left with the dregs in the domestic market.
@16 Don't be ridiculous, kiddikins. Argieland has acted “responsibly” since the 1930s. On your last paragraph, you stick with Iran then. Don't bother the rest of the world.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17 It's difficult to respond to you because you hide where you're from. Although argieland would be a good guess. We in Britain have been around for about a thousand years. You've been around for a couple of hundred. How did you come into being? You had some wars. Then you carried on having wars. And YOU invaded OUR territory! Surprised that you got splattered?
@18 Maybe one day you'll grow up. In around a thousand years.
@21 Britain didn't “start” anything. It started by responding to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. And, in Libya, it responded to the requests of the people. To save as many as possible from a murderer.
@23 Argie beef is poisoned.
As for this so-called best thing since sliced bread called “Argentine Beef”, it's ... ok... but I see no reason to seek it out, nor do I get how Europeans can go gaga over “Argentine Steakhouses” which for me is rather *mehhh* - especially when I'm lucky enough to live in ranching territory where we get the really good stuff locally... If that is protectionism is it's not my fault your beef is “just OK” (and, you;re not cooperating with the USDA, unless you'd accept our yanqui beef “as is”), and most important for me, is stale by the time it gets here and in any respect, not as good as what I can literally get down the street.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina Falls From Its Throne as King of Beef
Sep 06th, 2013 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines ate about 129 pounds of beef a person last year, far surpassing Americans, who mustered a mere 57.5 pounds by comparison. But Argentina’s current level is a pale shadow of its peak: 222 pounds of beef for every man, woman and child, achieved in 1956.
Reasons vary for these doldrums. Beef prices have surged with inflation, but cattlemen contend that government price controls aimed at preventing domestic beef consumption from falling further have wreaked havoc by making it costly to maintain large herds. Others, eying China’s rising demand for grains over the last decade, say it is simply more profitable to farm soybeans than to raise cattle.
“We are witnessing a historic decline in our beef industry,” said Ernesto Ambrosetti, chief economist of the Argentine Rural Society, the country’s largest farming association. “Now our smaller neighbors, Paraguay and Uruguay, have passed us” in the export rankings.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/world/americas/argentina-falls-from-its-throne-as-king-of-beef.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Here Troll!!!! Here Troll!!!!
Sep 06th, 2013 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Trrrollllll, where are you???
aaawwww, all the widdle puddy twolls have run away!!!!
@32
Sep 06th, 2013 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0So what? Things change, 100 kilos of beef as in 1950s isn't healthy. What a fool yankebooy is, actually attempting to foist better diet (less beef, more veggies), as some sort of “decline”!
@29
As usual, you hear wrong, because you lie. Interesting how you never hear anything “good” from Argentines. You know what you do, you are a compulsive detractor of Argentina. You have no credibility being so biased.
@31
Yet you expect Argentines to buy your Euro beer, wine, cheese, coldcuts, and ale? European food is crap anyway, always getting people sick, and add to that the fact you probably export the crap to other countries, and on top of that the distance to consumer... no thanks. Mendoza produce is organic, safe, and pristine with glacier water, no pesticides, and 20 minutes away from market.
Iraq was invaded by Britan in 2003, against the UN, against international law, against law of self-defense. Invaded on a RUMOR.
Ultimate fail and ultimate breach of honor making Britain no better than the Huns.
TTT, I hear good things but my point was to counter your preposterous statement. Argentina does not eat all of the beef it produces and does export the best.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gonzo and Tobias the troll you must be reading untruthful newspapers and watching lying Tv. Britain NEVER started those wars. You should watch more BBC, the worlds most trusted news source.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for Argentina, such a potentially rich land mass full of natural resources! Why is your country always whining - because you are governed by incompetent thieving fools who are mismanaging those resources and stealing the wealth. Argentina needs to abandon lying and cheating and get its nose to the grindstone like the USA and Europe
#36 if you look carefully at tobi the titti boi's words, they are always filled with conjecture, half truths, mis-information and outright lies and more importantly.....personal, yet unexperienced opinions. Such as:
Sep 06th, 2013 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“US bans 100% of argentine beef.
Not that we would export you any, since Argentina consumption is so strong we eat it all ourselves.”
As we speak......old asslips herself pushes with all her corruptive might to sell Argentine beef to the USA.......contradiction to titti boi tobi's personal opinion.
“European food is crap anyway,”
He has never been outside of Mendoza to form an opinion of European food......hell he's never even been to a restaurant in Buenos Aires City.....let alone anywhere in the world.
“They are the world's most protectionist nations,”
Again more personal opinions that are absolutely absurd. Maybe he needs REAL stats on how much other countries export to the USA without issues, like Argentina.
“Europe and North America growth has been averaging 0% last 5 years yet food inflation is agout 5.1% each year. Then they wonder why the middle class is becoming a thing of the past.” (sic)
Seems if anything he is combining stats of one region with others to derive at “convenient truths”. The poor tween is stuck support a lost cause. Is is a mere ideological nationist, so blind in his belief and his countries short comings and never ending failures of the kirchner's, he feels it's a noble cause to defend his nation from the outside forces.....aka as the “real world”
37 Captain Poppy
Sep 06th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Tobi..........Pooor, poor tobi
“Because he knew a thing or two, he thought he knew it all”
Mis-guided Troll, it would be nice if he had a thought that was his own............
Toby, That's not really why I posted that but bully for me. Here's the real reason:
Sep 06th, 2013 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 2006, after unsuccessful attempts to contain the rising price of their best export (yes, you read that correctly), the Kirchner administration instituted a total ban on all beef exports for 180 days. This was followed by quotas, fixes and the standard sort of mischief and tomfoolery you’d expect from appointed representatives who think they know the price of a good – any good – better than those actually buying and selling it.
Beef exports subsequently collapsed and, from July 2010 to January 2011, actually fell 63% year-on-year. According to the meat industry chamber, CICCRA, government policies cost Argentina some 4,600 small producers and more than 3,500 jobs while simultaneously “condemning all consumers to pay nearly double for beef than the year before and to reduce per capita consumption to 2001-02 levels.”
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-unfortunate-state-of-the-argentine-beef-industry-2011-3#ixzz2e8Gg3lhf
@16 The TruthPaTroll
Sep 06th, 2013 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Substitute 'incredulity' for 'jaundiced' and you will more accurately capture my feelings about your nation.
How is anyone supposed to take your positions ( which you acknowledge as preposterous ) seriously when you indulge in such sweeping generalisations.
“European food is crap anyway” ... really? ALL of it?
“You are the supercilious societies there are..” Ahem... this from the country that produced Diego Maradona. I know you are proud of your vocabulary but I don't believe 'supercilious' means what you think it means.
Yep, you're right Britain did indeed invade Iraq and you are doubtless aware that numerous posts from British and American posters have condemned the most recent action. But while you're handing out blame you might include Saddam Hussein who could simply have told the truth, avoided an invasion and gone on his merry way oppressing his people.
And you might care to acknowledge your new buddies the Iranian's who attacked Iraq years before, setting off a ten year war - the most expensive in history to that point - which cost over a million lives and left us with the indelible memory of children being used to clear minefields.
I admire your spirit, but your reasoning powers could use some refining.
(12) GeoffWard2
Sep 06th, 2013 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say....:
“.....much of what CFK says here is true...., and much of her response to the vultures who bought up the bonds to try and make a killing is beginning to make sense to me.”
I say.....:
You render me speechless!
Germans go native…, French go native…, Swedes go native…, Japanese go native…, even Yanks go native...................... but an Englishman!
Is that Brasilian commie wife of yours finally getting through?
So the Falklands War was a War. Wish these Argyland peeps would make their minds up.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 Iraq was invaded by Britan in 2003, against the UN, against international law, against law of self-defense. Invaded on a RUMOR.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ultimate fail and ultimate breach of honor making Britain no better than the Huns.
And TIT the Falkland Island s were invaded by rgenweener in 1982. Against international law, against law of self-defence. Invaded by a Junta. Ultimate fail and ultimate breach of honour making RGENWEENER no better than the Huns that they supported during WW2 and followed up with their own genocide, if the cap fits eh?
Argentina is doing a great job at exporting comedy.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The utter brilliance of Ms Kirchner's economic policies make Argentina laughed at by the world.
She just never seems to have a constructive, original idea.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 stink you render us all speechless being as you don't live in rgenweener and why don't you go NATIVE? Tell you why, is it because your a spineless shite who wont go home to pay taxes in your beloved country and help out , you sound quite political so let your voice be heard on the real stage instead of the British legion in Dover.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44 yeah your right and stink must be their export, bless him, down the legion as we speak with his veterans badge and miniature medals on, ditting on about his exploits before he comes back on here slagging Britain off
I see she held a press conference and talked about humanitarian aid in Syria. Jolly good. The UK has pledged an ADDITIONAL £52m. How much has Argentina pledged?
Sep 06th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 2 and a half pesos and tango 1
Sep 06th, 2013 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When Haiti had their disaster they sent them some bottled water.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was nice
Who cares what the crazy witch and her paid K forist have to say.
Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's too many posts addressed to me to reply too, so let me keep it simple:
Sep 07th, 2013 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Leave us argentines alone, i.e, go away, and we will leave you (the rest of the nations of the world) alone and will never hear from us AGAIN.
We can't hurt you militarily, we don't have anything to sell you, we have nogeo-political importance, we don't offer you anything intangible, no culture, so that should be simple enough for you to do.
Is that simple!
51. But before you go can you pay for all the U$ you've stolen from us?
Sep 07th, 2013 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is really all we are asking for.
@51
Sep 07th, 2013 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that's what you want so be it. But I don't think Argentina is planning to withdraw from the U.N., the G20, W.T.O., the Olympics or the World Cup. All of which have rules, obligations and responsibilities.
yanqui
Sep 07th, 2013 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will pay as soon as USA and Britain pays up for their thievery and damage inflicted upon the Middle East.
Lets keep it to recent history, nothing will be charged for decades of thievery, piracy, murder, torture, slavery and genocide.
Too much to ask for?
Great, then keep your deluded thoughts to yourself and your MP fans...
#51
Sep 07th, 2013 - 05:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's that simple ! For God's sake do it and give us ALL some peace from your government's bleating whining and moaning !
Shut up about the Falklands and we will happily consign you to history.
#54
What “thievery ” is that ? It is costing the UK much more than any perceived” benefit. Give examples please for my edification.
@51 Yes, we get it, TTT, you want to be left in isolation as you don't fit in with society because no one recognises your imagined superiority in real life.
Sep 07th, 2013 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0No one is going away from this message board so I guess that leaves you with one option. You won't go because this is the only place you get any attention.
@51 ah bless cu then have a nice life, you might even go home and help out but I doubt it
Sep 07th, 2013 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@54 as above
54. WTF is your obsession with the middle east? If not for the USA buying their oil they'd still be living in tents and killing each other every time one tribe found another tribe in the desert.
Sep 07th, 2013 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you really that stupid?
@51/56 The Juche model has been used by the other Chosen people for years. It has worked like a charm.
Sep 07th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0yanqui
Sep 07th, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only one to live in prehistory, is your brains. You really think the World believes your lies?
NOBODY does.
Not even the Brits anymore.
You are liars, and the World knows it.
When that Little boy cried wolf, you reckon the villagers cared if his name was Peter?
;)
“who ended up arguing Argentina was still suffering the negative consequences of the Malvinas war and from the last dictatorship, which ended in 1983.”
Sep 07th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Germany must have had negative consequences from WW2 but by 1975 they had sorted themselves out.
They too had a bad dictatorship and sorted themselves out.
I'm only amazed that Argentina aren't whining about bad effects dating from 1833, 1816, 1845 etc etc etc
Funny how CFK takes every chance to celebrate the 1982 Argentine invasion of the Falkland Islands by a dictatorship, under the name of 'Argentina' and Argentina is replaced by dictatorship (not my fault guv), when it suits.
As if no one notices.
Argentina. it's always everyone else's fault.
60. Is that supposed to make sense in English?
Sep 07th, 2013 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the salt filled north sea air has ruined your brain.
Now, now, people, be reasonable!
Sep 07th, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's just that CFK hasn't got the faintest idea about what “multilateral” means.
yanqui
Sep 07th, 2013 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You think... You see, that's another lie.
You don't think.
You parrot...
Not the same...
Poor Stevie do you tear up a bit when the north sea is mentioned?
Sep 07th, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic fool with outdated ideals and morals.
Are your terrorist parents embarrassed you are a cog in the capitalist machine?
The issue regarding protectionism is not if you are protectionist or not. It is basically how you do it. Many protectionist country's have clear and stable laws and regulations specifying what, how much and when. In Argentina, protectionist measures are totally haphazard and change every day according to the face or the bribe put forward by the customer requesting an import permit. In other words no clear rules!
Sep 07th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Told you you parrot...
Sep 07th, 2013 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby's wish for Argentina's isolation may be coming a bit sooner than he can handle.
Sep 07th, 2013 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like Griesa is going to allow the holdouts to go after Arg State assets, YPF, Banco Nacion maybe even BRCA if it can be proven to be an alter ego of the state ( it is and it will)
How does one buy oil and gas if they can freeze the wire or contents of the ship?
I will be very happy if this happens
very happy indeed
Another lie, you will never be happy. You are destined to be grumpy.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reason for this being your lonelibess...
Stevie, Is your news knowledge as outdated as your economic and societal beliefs?
Sep 08th, 2013 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0This can catch you up...
http://www.ambito.com/noticia.asp?id=705741
Fine by me yanqui, you will realize, like Pepe said, that the best way to upset an Argentine, is to force him/her to do what he/she doesn't want to do.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will be fine, as they have everything you lot need, and more.
As for a more general result, next time you lot present us your “bonds”, you know just where to stick them...
;)
Argentina will be fine, as they have everything you lot need, and more.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0What does Argentina have that we need?
Please be as specific as possible as I am very curious.
All we want is Argentina to abide by their word.
Why is it so hard for The ALBA + Argentina nations to do that?
Every single one of them is run by the scum of the earth
Truly awful people
They are nothing more than thugs turning their countries into failed states
You'd have to be insane to want your nation to be like Venezuela.
Food, oil, minerals, soy... you name it.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0A massive country full of valuable natural resources.
And all of them non-seizable :)
You want Argentina to stick by their Word?
And what gives you lot the monopoly to lie to the World?
Spying on friends and foes, USA has lost all credibility.
Not even the Brits supports you lot.
Wolf!
;)
You think the USA wants Soy or Rg “food”? (Food? WTF is a food export?)
Sep 08th, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0What makes you think container ships full of Soy or whatever is not seizable?
You do understand that the USA through Monsanto is the only reason there is a Soy industry in Argentina right?
What would happen if we disallowed sales to Argentina for say 5 yrs?
I imagine Monsanto, GM, Ford, Dupont etc will have to cease doing business there if Arg gets suspended from IMF.
How do you think they'll replace those jobs/exports?
Yes big revelation we Spy and we are good at it.
Everyone knows that so I 'm not sure what your point is?
Are you really as dumb as your posts make you appear?
Where you fail yanqui, is when you assume those Companies will end their trade with Argentina because of ideological reasons.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those Companies are, like Chevron, prostitutes of the market and will sell and buy to whomever in order to make a profit.
As I told you lot, quite an easy instrument to play on...
;)
The next revelation guzz will make is that the Chinese hack computers.........what a brainstorm cloud he is.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 075. You know absolutely nothing about a lot of things, Int'l companies will have to leave when Arg is expelled from the IMF because they will no longer be under the jurisdiction of the ICSID through WB.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0They won't be able to get insurance or loans for their investments and trade.
Now do you understand?
What?
Sep 08th, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't that just what the Chinese Development Bank is doing? Precisely?
Keep your plan Brady's, eat eachother...
;)
WTF? Brady plan? From the 80s? What are you talking about?
Sep 08th, 2013 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have any current info in that feeble mind?
Once IDB and WB loans are no longer being disbursed (looks like 2014) the only loan program that MAY be available is through the Chinese but alas it pales in comparison to the loan size Arg currently gets from the Int'l banks.
Then what?
Well, taking into account that you lot are coming by getting that GDP to debt rate up, stimulating Growth (as in production and consumption), in order not to feel the effects of the loan interests, we''l see just who hits the ground first...
Sep 08th, 2013 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0And remember, Argentina will just get another bruise should they fall, while you lot are coming down from that little imaginary penthouse of yours...
;)
Dream on.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me what's going to happen when we are energy independent in the next 5-10 years?
Since you can't ever come up with a decent retort am I to assume that I am correct in my statements above?
You go ahead and assume what you want.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is your trademark,after all...
Then I will also assume you are too dumb to post a thoughtful reply.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sure, go ahead...
Sep 08th, 2013 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Both of you dimwits talk about what will happen and none of you know. The best that one can do is base likely future outcomes from historical factual events. That being said, one of you is attempting to blow smoke up readers asses and the other is closer to the probability of reality.
Sep 08th, 2013 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW......one of you is an imposter of who they say they are.....and you know who I mean.
Dany
Sep 08th, 2013 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets do this then...
“The best that one can do is base likely future outcomes from historical factual events.”
And this you know?
Because you for one are no dimwit, as you know what will happen.
Must be that crystal ball, the same one who told you about the imposter... you know what I mean?
Fairly easy to see where that trail leads to.
Sep 09th, 2013 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back at hand......it's totally a hypocritical farce for the Mad Bitch of Argentina to cry foul when no one can import at all to Argentina. I've seen those rusting containers sitting in port for over two years now all because she outlawed the dollar because Argentina has no foreign reserves to pay their bills.
tic tic tic.....time is running out. I can hardly wait for the October elections.
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