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Gibraltar and Spain trade unions call for an end to border crossing dispute
The Gibraltar branch of Unite the Union has joined forces with Spanish unions Comisiones Obreras [CC.OO] and Unión General de Trabajadores [UGT] to underscore their collective concern at the deterioration of cross-border relations because of the on-going dispute. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“This is more-so in a region that is already facing enough problems as a result of the Spanish economy collapse and crisis.”
Sep 18th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Real sums it up I think. “collapse and crisis” sums up Spain 2013. What sums up Gibraltar 2013?
Keep Calm and Carry On!
I find it beyond pathetic on your part that you so crassly “gloat” about that fact that another country is in a crisis. And that you use it to set up some subtle, lordly juxtaposition.
Sep 19th, 2013 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0And please don't think you are immune: so did the Americans and Europeans prior to 2008.
Nostrils
Sep 19th, 2013 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0When are you going to learn to argue? Honestly you would think that someone who claims to attend university would be more capable than you are. But then again considering the low rankings of Argentine universities it is to be expected.
Anyway, the words above are not mine, they are the words of the regional secreaty of Comisiones Obreras, Inmaculada Ortega.
As per usual in your haste to attack you didn't even read the article. But then again you revel in being a troll.
There was no gloat. It is a fact. I even delimited the fact by saying 2013. Spain IS in economic collapse and crisis NOW in 2013. That might not be the case next year. It won't be the case forever.
However in 2013 Spain is deflecting attention from the simpletons in their population (you surely know the type, Argentina seems to have a higher proportion than many other countries of these people) by rallying around the flag and trying to get people to NOT concentrate ont he sleaze and corruption in government and the downward economic trend.
Gibraltar - right next door - is not suffering these problems.
Any further clarification of facts needed?
As for gloating, if I had mentioned that Australia overtook Spain in economic size during this crisis - that would be gloating.
If I then highlighted that my country with a population half Spain's outproduces it then that would be gloating even more. Perhaps I shouldn't mention that Spain's population just shrank whereas ours is the fastest growing in the developed world.
But that would be just mean.
As for being immune to economic problems. I have never and never will state that! But we will never be as bad economically as Argentina is now. I will state that!
It would appear I can argue quite well, since you required 600% more verbiage to deliver a discoursive rebuttal.
Sep 19th, 2013 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0But where is the collapse, if you want to get so factual? All I see is a continuation of the very poor economic conditions, of the crisis part of the statement. A collapse would be some sort of monetary, banking, or debt crisis. Please tell me where that has occured in 2013 in Spain.
So no, the statement is in fact not a fact.
The remaining statements are mere jejune gasconades. I will repeat, you are not immune to economic crisis. I have alrady lived long enough to observe how every time the citizens of one nation gloat that their nation will never fall into any crisis, they have to eat the words 5-10 years down the line. Just remember your country in the 1980s, a so-called “developed world basket case”. You can return there at any time. Any nation can.
I really could careless about your comparisons with Argentina.
As long as madrid calls the shots then people will suffer,
Sep 19th, 2013 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0as for the state of spain, to be fair its their own fault, is it not,
but it sure aint gibralters fault so spain should grow up and leave them alone.
@4
Sep 19th, 2013 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I quite agree with the other posts, in your haste to deflect, it is very clear that you didn't read the article. This is a development that the Spanish government wanted the least. They thought that by causing Gibraltar hardship by blockading them, a trick they borrowed from Argentina, they would be able to win admiration from a very disillusioned electorate in Spain.
What is happening in stark contrast, is that the Spanish people residing within the border towns of Gibraltar are suffering more hardship because of what they're government are doing, than the Gibraltarians. As a result, they are turning on their government even more.
This is not Argentina, the Spanish by and large are well educated. They see right through what their government are doing. What you have to remember here is that Gibraltar employs 8000 people in those border towns. Those people are getting very pissed off with what is going on, because their livelihoods are at stake.
Gibraltar can sit this one out, they have done it before and they can do it again and the UK will support them through it.
The way Rajoy is handling, or rather mishandling this situation, is likely to result in a fragmented “Spain”.
Sep 19th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That could be really good for some regions and a disaster for most: those sucking the tit of the others for a start.
If we are really lucky there will be a civil war and this damnable country will be no more.
I for one am just sick of the lying and bleating it wasn’t them but the Gibraltarians, just like The Dark Country.
Well two things of note,
Sep 19th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the 2nd is interesting reading that will provoke much controversy…
Retired Marine new governor of Gibraltar
http://www.bfbs.com/news/retired-marine-new-governor-gibraltar-64566.html
And
GONZALO DE BENITO, SECRETARY OF STATE AT THE SPANISH FOREIGN MINISTRY SPEAKS TO DOMINIQUE SEARLE AT THE MINISTRY OFFICES IN MADRID
You have said that the frontier delays are a small price to pay for a return to dialogue. Do you really think the stern controls are productive? Are you still thinking of a toll
http://www.bfbs.com/news/retired-marine-new-governor-gibraltar-64566.html
.they fully think soveriengty will be theirs.
@ 8 Briton, re. the Spanish approach.
Sep 20th, 2013 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Spanish government suffers from the same childish attitude as the Argentine one, in that it as usual refers to a more than half a century old UN General Assembly resolution, inviting Spain and the UK to negociate, but does not realise that Spain has absolutely nothing but poverty and a millennium-old tradition of corruption to offer the Gibraltarians, although the resolution clearly demands the result to be ”in the interest of the population of Gibraltar (resp. The Falkland Islands)”.
Joining Spain, resp. Argentina, is in no way in the interest of the populations - how can that be so extremely difficult to comprehend?
3 anglotino
Sep 20th, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“whereas ours is the fastest growing in the developed world.”
It might be.....until China decide to cut on your iron and carbon exports.
“Gibraltar - right next door - is not suffering these problems.”
Of course, since it's another of these precious little financial heavens, created by the UK everywhere.
“ if I had mentioned that Australia overtook Spain in economic size during this crisis”
Yes, and yet, Australians sacked the government !! Talking about idiocy !!
3 Anglotino
Sep 20th, 2013 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't wait to see your response to the idiot @ 10. :o)
9 St.John
Sep 20th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree,
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