Argentines expect an inflation of 30% for the next twelve months despite a slight deceleration in prices which consumers admit in some periods of the current year according to the findings from the Di Tella University. Read full article
Yankeeboy, were you still a kid the last time you saw the American flag flying full mast? Probably since it's spend most of the last year at least flying at half from all the mass shootings all over the place.
@1 Of course there's still toilet paper. Although, in argieland, it's called pesos. The pesos are now worth 17 US cents or 11 British pence each. Here in Britain you couldn't buy 100 sheets of toilet paper for a peso. The average toilet roll has about 240 sheets. That's why, in argieland, the toilet paper is numbered. Valuable stuff!
Its not If it is when there is a massive devaluation.
Let's just use some recent numbers to show you what is happening, INDEC says the country is growing 8.5% this quarter, yet the trade balance is the worst in the last decade, income tax revenues are not keeping up with expenditures, and the revised 1st have of the year to a deficit.
Yet they have the audacity to say the economy is growing. Where? There is not one major business that is showing growth, Not 1!
So methinks they're probably still in recession even with 30%+inflation and monetary base growing 40%/yoy.
This is a catastrophic disaster in the making.
A perfect storm
more than I even expected and hoped for
and I can't wait
It seems like all of our voracious CFK supporters are gone.
I wonder why?
hahaha
Re: toilet paper.
The BBC are reporting this morning that the Venezuelan National Guard have seized a toilet paper factory to ensure sufficient supplies. So on the plus side, well done for thinking ahead, but on the other hand - Jesus wept Venezuela!!
@13 No, that's a government directive. No shit and you don't need toilet paper. Here's a useful thought. Follow the example of dogs. Drag your arse over things like grass, carpet or a stony beach.
Isn't it odd when people in a society worry more about a government controlling toilet paper supplies than controlling their phone calls, SMS, emails, and post? Or when the a handful of bankers control their entire economy, gamble it out, and then get bailed out from the pockets of the little ones?
It's one thing to have an odd sense of humor, but this? I don't get the British. Hands off the toilet paper but my personal life, oh go right ahead... :|
Toby, Your naivete is shocking. Do you seriously think if a Gov't controls your bathrooms products they are not also controlling what you watch, read, type and talk?
I have a friend in Caracas right now that is fighting a gov't confiscation of his family's property. His Dad is sick and old and someone in the govt knows this and wants his long held property for nothing. My friend left 6 month ago and has not been heard from for at least a month. There is a good possibility he is dead.
This is typical of Marxists gov't and where Argentina is heading if something drastic is done very soon.
Marxism has never even been applied in Argentina, unlike in most countries in Latin America? You know why? because there is simply no support for it. Just like there is no support for Capitalism.
That's what you fail to understand. We refuse extremes.
I would tell you a government that feels threatened by toilet paper probably isn't very competent at controlling what one watches, reads, and says.
Are you kidding! You have AVOWED MARXISTS running your Economy Ministry and as the Ambassador to the USA!
Are you that stupid!?
Running out of toilet paper could be the spark that ignites the flame of revolution. Do you know nothing of history?
People riot over things like this.
What happened to you, you used to be a bright but misguided kid. Now you are just plain dumb. Have you been playing under the crop duster planes? Drinking too much contaminated water? Wake up!
Seesh!
I'm sure to you anything to the left of Gordon Gekko and Mussolini is marxist but no, they are not marxists. And even if they are, they do not apply their philosophies in power because they simply can't.
I find it amazing I can tell your agitation about this matter, but 12 people hunted down like wounded mules in your own capital city breaks you no sweat. Why?
@22 Running out of toilet paper could be the spark that ignites the flame of revolution. Do you know nothing of history?
People riot over things like this.
So far it doesn't seem that there will be revolution in Venezuela. Chavism lost some support but Capriles has so far failed to capitalize it, and Maduro still wins on the polls. It's amazing what people will tolerate, but then there are a lot of people who got a house because they support Chavism.
The British are the most extreme nationalists. They regard all music, movies, books, food, and and culture that is not english-based as unworthy and inferior, and don't give it a chanche . Try again.
What you fail to understand is that the UK security services could not give a rat's ass what I think, say, read, listen to etc. They are not remotely interested in me or anyone else who represents no threat to national security. Look, when you walk down the street the police can look you up and down and decide whether you are acting suspiciously or not. That happens in your country the same as it happens in mine. So what is the difference with them looking to see who is accessing extremist websites and planning mass murder. Personally I don't see the difference. In my entire life I have only been pulled over by the cops once. So for all this supposed surveillance I have lived an entirely free life - I have gone where I want and said what I want and voted for who I want and no-one has ever stopped me. So am I free or not.
Well if you don't want the state to know anything about you then never drive a car or have a bank account. Never work, register to vote or travel abroad, never marry or have children, try not to get sick and certainly never die. Because every advanced country in the world tracks all these things, not just Britain and America. I am not submitting my freedoms to a fascist police state just so that I can have toilet paper. I am completely and utterly free. Should the men in black ever come knocking, asking about about emails or posts I wrote then I promise to come back here and acknowledge that I naively traded my freedom for a clean arse.
#26
The British are the most extreme nationalists. They regard all music, movies, books, food, and and culture that is not english-based as unworthy and inferior, and don't give it a chanche .....(chance - my correction)
Your ignorance is appalling. However, being in the back of beyond, never having traveled in the outside world and gleaning information from God knows what sources, I am not surprised.
Extreme nationalists ? Substitute Argentina ...Gaucho Rivero Bill, La Campora, etc. ?
As for your other list, Britain has a multicultural heritage in the arts and cuisine....much more so than the Argentine.
Of course maybe in the case of Argentina your's are just inferior
When you think of the extreme measures the ordinary Argentine has to go through just to change their own money into foreign currency in order to travel on holiday. How they have to give out the serial numbers of all their electrical items at the airport before they can leave. How they are stalked by sniffer dogs if they want to travel to Uruguay. How if they speak out against the government or mention the 'I' word, they get a visit from the authorities. How can they believe they are not being monitored by their government. If they get blacklisted their claims for government assistance gets lost in the system. It is an oppressive regime governing Argentina.
Obviously then you have stuff to hide Elaine. If one makes their earnings legally and honestly then you have nothing to fear from sniffing dogs (of fake or drug money), or of giving simple informkation like account serial numbers. I see no problem in it.
Toby, Elaine was just pointin gout that your gov't is much more intrusive than the USA or UK into people lives. It is shameful.
When I lived in Arg, some tax collector came around trying to survey my property to see if it had a pool, how big it was, where the staff slept etc. I was shocked!
That doesn't happen in free countries.
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What on earth are you taking about, it is normal procedure in most countries for the County Assessor to come calling if they suspect you have been making improvements to your property....like a pool or increase in size etc.
Increase the value....an increase in property tax.
Especially in the US.....I asked a friend why some of the houses looked a bit shabby on the outside but were palaces on the inside.....he said to keep the Assessor away!
Even new Siding and windows can attract attention.....I should know!
I don't have anything to hide. I pay the correct amount of tax on my earnings because I believe in paying into society for the privilege of living in a society. My travels over the years have taught me how lucky I am to live in a place like England.
I love many of the countries I work in and the people I meet along the way. It is another kind of privilege to be able to do what I do. It is also a reminder of how fortunate I am to live in a developed country.
TTT if you think it is as easy as that to get dollars to travel abroad you obviously have not tried it. I know you do not support your government because you have said so here so there is no need for you to defend them.
36. Personally I've owned property for 30yrs in 4 states and 2 countries and never had an assessor come to my door.
I don't think that is even legal!
I have never met anyone that has ever happened to either.
Not sure where you live but certainly doesn't sound like the USA.
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I knew you were a liar.....you have never owned a property and that's why you have no idea how property tax works and how the county assesses your property....
Try looking up property tax assessment in the States....each State varies but basically the same!
You are just a boy waiter that lives with his folks or rents.....
....you blew it.....knowing nothing and showing it!
Wait, extending emergency economic measures to continue a command economy is not an extreme?
Making it challenging for people to leave the country because the currency is fake, I thought that was one definition of an extreme situation I thought that was how Cuba started.
Being on top 3 of Crisis Watch out of aaaall the countries, that is not extreme?
@38 it's definitely legal in Argentina, when it comes to property tax or income tax everybody lies so they send inspectors if they suspect you're lying. They only send inspectors to the big fish though.
@39
In most cases the design of someone's house is a matter of public record and certainly in the UK the planning designs for modern houses are held at the local council. No-one would physically need to visit your house, not unless they had reason to believe you had made significant building alterations without planning permission and that would be planning officials checking the building specs to ensure your house isn't dangerous rather than tax officials snooping around. Do the Americans not have something similar? Why, how does it work in Argentina Think?
42 Redrow
Yes it is exactly the same in the States you need a building permit to do pretty much anything and then it is a matter of record and then the County will assess to see if the property value has increased and then add the appropriate increase.
Although a lot of people will try and get away with it especially in the Sticks....add a pool or an extension to the back ...in the North it's mainly timber construction without founds and siding as an external cover so pretty easy to knock up!
They have never even heard of a DPM (Damp Prove Membrane) in Lowes and Home Depot ( B&Q equivalent)
So they have a warden from the County that goes sneaking about checking wherever they see construction...as a permit is displayed on the front of your property in the States....so they can check.....I know this...unfortunately from experience.
In the towns....suburban areas you can't even put a shed next to your house without a permit and you also are responsible for clearing the snow from the sidewalk in front of your property in winter....The USA is the most intrusive country I have ever come across....not so free as people make out!
It looks like there is a possibility of getting some different faces in the Senate next month. They might be likely to win as long as they are anti-Cristina. My main problem is that some people have a price tag, and in those cases political alignment plays a minimal role.
After this, I'm fairly certain many people will regret having supported Marxist ideals. The well meaning theorist had no idea that his Manifesto would be used in destroying so many economies around the world.
Do leaders ever learn that Marxism doesn't work when they see that it fails catastrophically in one country after another?
The failure of every economic system starts with avarice.
45
What a dumb stupid lying Yank you are....proving as usual you know fcuk all!
If the Warden or whatever he's called...even if he was a building inspector sees additions he doesn't have the expertise to assess he reports back then you will receive a notice of a visit...again you have never owned anything on your waiters wage so you haven't got a clue!
I'm beginning to doubt you have ever been to the US....
Why don' t you look up a building inspectors job responsibilities and show me where it has anything to do with the tax assessor. Of course we have building inspectors, duh.
Again, I've made MAJOR improvements to properties and NEVER had a tax assessor come out for a visit. Never.
So tell m e what happens if you don't let them come onto your property? What happens if you deny this voluntary appointment? Do they go to court to get a warrant? Bring the Sheriff? Do you see where I am going with this?
Are you retarded or insane? Methinks a little of both but most certainly very bad liar. You'd think you;d do some research before you open your trap and make a fool out of yourself time and again.
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You are the dumb retard, if you have built an addition and the building inspector wishes to see it or the County assessor wants access to your property, if you don't comply that is exactly what they will do, they will get a court order and if needed, be accompanied by a sheriff to enforce it!
Are you some sort of Redneck that thinks the County and Government can't enforce there will on you? What are you going to do....see them off with your shotgun?
Yeehaw!....going fill your butt full of buckshot...ya'll come on my property agin!
Why don' t you look up a building inspectors job responsibilities and show me where it has anything to do with the tax assessor.
What part of this sentence didn't you understand...Dumbo?
....a building inspector sees additions he doesn't have the expertise to assess he reports back ..... then you will receive a notice of a visit.
......By an assessor....are we there yet?....are we there yet?....are we there yet?
Elaine, But isn't it fun to watch an idiot try to explain something he knows absolutely nothing about?
I do the same to Toby all the time.
But with Toby there was some language barrier mistakes I let slide but this half wit doesn't get that pass.
Voice whey don't you go over to Lycoming mall and map it out and to prove you live there
Oh wait here let me help you http://shoplycomingmall.com/directory
Go get a nice fancy coat at Burlington with the rest of the welfare recipients.
Bahahaha
I think that language barrier is code word for I just had no comeback to his truths. I'm not a genius, I simply have the truth on my side thus is easy to argue.
My English is better than most of the natives here.
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You have obviously proved you know nothing about property in the US ..ergo you have never owned one....Shouldn't you be serving on tables by now?
Does it tell you where the cash desks are situated in Book a Million in relation to the indoor entrance....does it...does it.....I can tell you then perhaps you could call them and see if I'm right.....Dumbo...right hand side against the wall...
Or perhaps some of the interiors of my local shops ...how about I describe them and you give them a call...see if I'm right...
Haha welfare.....do you have two homes in two continents?
.....I'll have my steak medium rare if you don't mind boy!!
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.....and what knowledge or credibility do you have on the subject of Building permits, Building codes, Zoning and Property Tax in the US??
.....for you that would be...Building warrants, Building regulations, Town and Country Planning and Council Tax in your language.....
IF you know something, please continue if not.....Butt out!
@19 See, this is where you've obviously lost track of the important things in society. But perhaps only in advanced societies. There's no evidence of any government controlling their phone calls, SMS, emails, and post. Even monitoring doesn't matter as long as you don't use words like bomb, Semtex, explosion, non-believers, Allah or kill. But if you use your hand to wipe your bum or don't go at all, you become an objectionable individual. Do you find that people avoid shaking your hand? Walking in that crabbed, slow manner with an expression of pain on your face is also a giveaway. Because you get in other people's way!
@21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara
@23 Do tell us about Kiciloff. Kicillof, who declined to be interviewed for this story, spent most of his career in academia, giving classes and writing about the theories of economists such as John Maynard Keynes and Karl Marx. he mocked the concept of the rule of law, Emerging markets analyst Walter Molano at U.S.-based BCP Securities called Kicillof a flaming red Marxist on Thursday.
@39 Do tell us more. I've been a property owner in the UK for more than 30 years. No assessors or surveyors”. And they'd have to prove they had a legal right to enter my property. And it is mine. Fully paid for.
@45 Plenty of things in the UK don't need a permit. I erected a 7 foot by 18 foot conservatory at the back of my house. No permit required. And it's been there for 20 years now!
@54 There's no evidence of any government “controlling their phone calls, SMS, emails, and post”. Even “monitoring” doesn't matter as long as you don't use words like “b---”, “S-----”, “e--------”, “non-b--------”, “A----” or “k--”.
Really, then I think you should be expecting visitors” very shortly.
Gosh, the paranoia of Argentines can only come from having to watch their backs all the time.
Yes I own property and abide by the laws. Planning laws are there to protect communities. Why do Argentines think all laws are bad and there to be broken? It is on the level of a teenager rebelling against the school uniform. If you want to live in society there has to be a structure to protect the majority.
I see there will be a few less National Guard available to protect the toilet paper in Venezuela as they have been arrested for smuggling 1.3 tons of cocaine to France.
54
.......I was talking about the US
The UK works on Banding for Property Tax...Council Tax....you would need to significantly change the value to change the banding......
Yes there are lots of additions you can make in the UK without planning although you would need a building warrant if you had run the Central heating into the conservatory...legally!
Also the law has recently changed to allow large Extensions almost double previously without planning but still requiring a building warrant and inspection at founds level...insulation standards..etc...
This change is to stimulate the building industry with large scale home improvements etc...
Also if you have a large garden anything more than 5 metres from the house is classed as a shed so doesn't need planning as long as within the maximum dimensions and 4m height!
They want to live in a totally free society - one that is free of all laws. Now most people would call such a thing arnarchy, because if there are no laws, and no law enforcement officer's, people will be free to do exactly as they please.
However, they still wouldn't be truly free, because whoever had the biggest gun would just turn up and steal everything from them, and they wouldn't have anyone to turn to.
Freedom is a strange concept in itself. No one is truly 100% free because to be a part of a society you must abide by the rules and laws of that society.
But let's get back to the acutal subject of the thread.
Argentina's inflation, which is already high, could go up even higher this year.
Tobias, who lives with his head buried in the sand, doesn't think this will be bad for the people of Argentina. But since he doesn't live in Argentina, he won't care.
I feel another default on the way. This one will be bigger, harder hitting and last longer than the last one.
It's a shame because Argentina has potential, but that same potential is squandered by thieving politicians and an apathetic public, who give little thought to the future, only to what is immediate.
As I have said, electronics will be out of reach of most Rgs very shortly. In a decade when the rest of the world is using something to communicate that hasn't been invented yet they'll be using the equvalent of the rotary phone.
At current Avg Arg Salary and real exchange rate it takes 3 months of wage to buy an ipad.
@55 I think not. Do you know how monitoring works? For anything electronic, a computer program reads everything at high speed. Suspect words are tagged for a closer look. Then another program examines larger segments of suspect material to get the word(s) in context. And thus you get to material that needs human examination. Other suspect material would be groups of sense-free characters or groups of digits. They get a program designed to crack encryption. Easy enough, as anyone who has used a password-cracker program knows.
@57 I know what you were talking about.
@58 Quite right. And so we come back to viveza criolla. Apparently, Brazil has jeitinho that is much the same thing. It seems that Brazil also has Gerson's law and malandragem. It is suggested that it has now spread into Uruguay, but no telling from which direction. So that makes three countries where you can't believe a word they say!
@60, no we tried that on (at the time)my three year old. He didn't fall for it. Not for a split second. But back to this, I know there was a big snit in Australia with the App store when I was there for example and that my colleagues in the UK get rather p!ssy when I whip out my kool-aid drinking Mac-head attitude but how much of that pricing in Argentina is the same game Apple has been known to play worldwide and how much is the defacto inflation rate showing through.
62. How does one overrun a country of 330MM boarded by oceans?
That is just some fantasy you have that can not ever come to fruition so I will say, Dream on.
You should try and think about how terrible your life will be when Argentina is truly isolated because they can't afford the technology that communicates with whatever we will be using.
Just like you got color TV a generation after the rest of the world.
Same thing just more dire
A 7ft x 18ft extension would almost certainly be permitted development under UK planning law.
UK government keeps cancelling revaluation due to cost which is why the current bands are ridiculously out of date.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesLuckily they can still look to Venezuela and say, See we are better!
Sep 20th, 2013 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course this is before the huge devaluation.
They may not be able to say it for very much longer.
Is there still toilet paper in the stores in BA?
Yankeeboy, were you still a kid the last time you saw the American flag flying full mast? Probably since it's spend most of the last year at least flying at half from all the mass shootings all over the place.
Sep 21st, 2013 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0WTF has that got to do with inflation in Argentina?
Sep 21st, 2013 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like the government, Truth likes to get you off track...avoid the problems here in happy land.
Sep 21st, 2013 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Of course there's still toilet paper. Although, in argieland, it's called pesos. The pesos are now worth 17 US cents or 11 British pence each. Here in Britain you couldn't buy 100 sheets of toilet paper for a peso. The average toilet roll has about 240 sheets. That's why, in argieland, the toilet paper is numbered. Valuable stuff!
Sep 21st, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 I repeat Rc's question WTF has that got to do with the subject matter of this article IDIOT? Anyway how is life in Canada?
Sep 21st, 2013 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And INDEC still shows inflation running at 9.8%.
Sep 21st, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back on topic:
Sep 21st, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will be lucky if it's ONLY 30%!
If there is a devaluation it will be “pick a number between 35 and 50% I would imagine.
Its not If it is when there is a massive devaluation.
Sep 21st, 2013 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's just use some recent numbers to show you what is happening, INDEC says the country is growing 8.5% this quarter, yet the trade balance is the worst in the last decade, income tax revenues are not keeping up with expenditures, and the revised 1st have of the year to a deficit.
Yet they have the audacity to say the economy is growing. Where? There is not one major business that is showing growth, Not 1!
So methinks they're probably still in recession even with 30%+inflation and monetary base growing 40%/yoy.
This is a catastrophic disaster in the making.
A perfect storm
more than I even expected and hoped for
and I can't wait
It seems like all of our voracious CFK supporters are gone.
I wonder why?
hahaha
I hope inflation goes to 300%, I just leased a new Toyota for 4 years on fixed payments. Even Toyota finance factors in a 30% increase.
Sep 21st, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YankeeB insightful.
Sep 21st, 2013 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where is Poppy?
@10, Klingon, interesting.
Re: toilet paper.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The BBC are reporting this morning that the Venezuelan National Guard have seized a toilet paper factory to ensure sufficient supplies. So on the plus side, well done for thinking ahead, but on the other hand - Jesus wept Venezuela!!
@12
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0No shit, is that true?
@13
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-24185342
Is this just to give a little bonus to the National Guard? They control much needed supplies. Sounds like a recipe for corruption.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Supplies would last longer if they used only Juan Sheet.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://youtu.be/-CN7KPIELts
@16 Trunce!
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL! Classic!
@13 No, that's a government directive. No shit and you don't need toilet paper. Here's a useful thought. Follow the example of dogs. Drag your arse over things like grass, carpet or a stony beach.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't it odd when people in a society worry more about a government controlling toilet paper supplies than controlling their phone calls, SMS, emails, and post? Or when the a handful of bankers control their entire economy, gamble it out, and then get bailed out from the pockets of the little ones?
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's one thing to have an odd sense of humor, but this? I don't get the British. Hands off the toilet paper but my personal life, oh go right ahead... :|
Toby, Your naivete is shocking. Do you seriously think if a Gov't controls your bathrooms products they are not also controlling what you watch, read, type and talk?
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have a friend in Caracas right now that is fighting a gov't confiscation of his family's property. His Dad is sick and old and someone in the govt knows this and wants his long held property for nothing. My friend left 6 month ago and has not been heard from for at least a month. There is a good possibility he is dead.
This is typical of Marxists gov't and where Argentina is heading if something drastic is done very soon.
You need to grow up.
Marxism has never even been applied in Argentina, unlike in most countries in Latin America? You know why? because there is simply no support for it. Just like there is no support for Capitalism.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's what you fail to understand. We refuse extremes.
I would tell you a government that feels threatened by toilet paper probably isn't very competent at controlling what one watches, reads, and says.
Are you kidding! You have AVOWED MARXISTS running your Economy Ministry and as the Ambassador to the USA!
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you that stupid!?
Running out of toilet paper could be the spark that ignites the flame of revolution. Do you know nothing of history?
People riot over things like this.
What happened to you, you used to be a bright but misguided kid. Now you are just plain dumb. Have you been playing under the crop duster planes? Drinking too much contaminated water? Wake up!
Seesh!
I'm sure to you anything to the left of Gordon Gekko and Mussolini is marxist but no, they are not marxists. And even if they are, they do not apply their philosophies in power because they simply can't.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it amazing I can tell your agitation about this matter, but 12 people hunted down like wounded mules in your own capital city breaks you no sweat. Why?
@21
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We refuse extremes.
Not when it comes to nationalism, which is bordering on the extreme.
However, that does like it does in many countries, provide your politicians with a smokescreen.
@22 Running out of toilet paper could be the spark that ignites the flame of revolution. Do you know nothing of history?
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People riot over things like this.
So far it doesn't seem that there will be revolution in Venezuela. Chavism lost some support but Capriles has so far failed to capitalize it, and Maduro still wins on the polls. It's amazing what people will tolerate, but then there are a lot of people who got a house because they support Chavism.
@24
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British are the most extreme nationalists. They regard all music, movies, books, food, and and culture that is not english-based as unworthy and inferior, and don't give it a chanche . Try again.
@ Tobi
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you fail to understand is that the UK security services could not give a rat's ass what I think, say, read, listen to etc. They are not remotely interested in me or anyone else who represents no threat to national security. Look, when you walk down the street the police can look you up and down and decide whether you are acting suspiciously or not. That happens in your country the same as it happens in mine. So what is the difference with them looking to see who is accessing extremist websites and planning mass murder. Personally I don't see the difference. In my entire life I have only been pulled over by the cops once. So for all this supposed surveillance I have lived an entirely free life - I have gone where I want and said what I want and voted for who I want and no-one has ever stopped me. So am I free or not.
Tha's your opinion. I'd rather have no toilet paper and not have the government survey me whatsoever.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't like nasty surprises, like snow on the first day of spring... oh wait.
Your wish is closer than you think. I think you've been out of disposable diapers for at least a year. I should've told you to stock up on them too.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 Tobi
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well if you don't want the state to know anything about you then never drive a car or have a bank account. Never work, register to vote or travel abroad, never marry or have children, try not to get sick and certainly never die. Because every advanced country in the world tracks all these things, not just Britain and America. I am not submitting my freedoms to a fascist police state just so that I can have toilet paper. I am completely and utterly free. Should the men in black ever come knocking, asking about about emails or posts I wrote then I promise to come back here and acknowledge that I naively traded my freedom for a clean arse.
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Sep 22nd, 2013 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British are the most extreme nationalists. They regard all music, movies, books, food, and and culture that is not english-based as unworthy and inferior, and don't give it a chanche .....(chance - my correction)
Your ignorance is appalling. However, being in the back of beyond, never having traveled in the outside world and gleaning information from God knows what sources, I am not surprised.
Extreme nationalists ? Substitute Argentina ...Gaucho Rivero Bill, La Campora, etc. ?
As for your other list, Britain has a multicultural heritage in the arts and cuisine....much more so than the Argentine.
Of course maybe in the case of Argentina your's are just inferior
When you think of the extreme measures the ordinary Argentine has to go through just to change their own money into foreign currency in order to travel on holiday. How they have to give out the serial numbers of all their electrical items at the airport before they can leave. How they are stalked by sniffer dogs if they want to travel to Uruguay. How if they speak out against the government or mention the 'I' word, they get a visit from the authorities. How can they believe they are not being monitored by their government. If they get blacklisted their claims for government assistance gets lost in the system. It is an oppressive regime governing Argentina.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine consumers’ inflation expectations for next twelve months above 30%
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simply....... :)
@32
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously then you have stuff to hide Elaine. If one makes their earnings legally and honestly then you have nothing to fear from sniffing dogs (of fake or drug money), or of giving simple informkation like account serial numbers. I see no problem in it.
Toby, Elaine was just pointin gout that your gov't is much more intrusive than the USA or UK into people lives. It is shameful.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I lived in Arg, some tax collector came around trying to survey my property to see if it had a pool, how big it was, where the staff slept etc. I was shocked!
That doesn't happen in free countries.
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Sep 22nd, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth are you taking about, it is normal procedure in most countries for the County Assessor to come calling if they suspect you have been making improvements to your property....like a pool or increase in size etc.
Increase the value....an increase in property tax.
Especially in the US.....I asked a friend why some of the houses looked a bit shabby on the outside but were palaces on the inside.....he said to keep the Assessor away!
Even new Siding and windows can attract attention.....I should know!
I don't have anything to hide. I pay the correct amount of tax on my earnings because I believe in paying into society for the privilege of living in a society. My travels over the years have taught me how lucky I am to live in a place like England.
Sep 22nd, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love many of the countries I work in and the people I meet along the way. It is another kind of privilege to be able to do what I do. It is also a reminder of how fortunate I am to live in a developed country.
TTT if you think it is as easy as that to get dollars to travel abroad you obviously have not tried it. I know you do not support your government because you have said so here so there is no need for you to defend them.
36. Personally I've owned property for 30yrs in 4 states and 2 countries and never had an assessor come to my door.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think that is even legal!
I have never met anyone that has ever happened to either.
Not sure where you live but certainly doesn't sound like the USA.
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Sep 23rd, 2013 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I knew you were a liar.....you have never owned a property and that's why you have no idea how property tax works and how the county assesses your property....
Try looking up property tax assessment in the States....each State varies but basically the same!
You are just a boy waiter that lives with his folks or rents.....
....you blew it.....knowing nothing and showing it!
Wait, extending emergency economic measures to continue a command economy is not an extreme?
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Making it challenging for people to leave the country because the currency is fake, I thought that was one definition of an extreme situation I thought that was how Cuba started.
Being on top 3 of Crisis Watch out of aaaall the countries, that is not extreme?
@38 it's definitely legal in Argentina, when it comes to property tax or income tax everybody lies so they send inspectors if they suspect you're lying. They only send inspectors to the big fish though.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@39
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0In most cases the design of someone's house is a matter of public record and certainly in the UK the planning designs for modern houses are held at the local council. No-one would physically need to visit your house, not unless they had reason to believe you had made significant building alterations without planning permission and that would be planning officials checking the building specs to ensure your house isn't dangerous rather than tax officials snooping around. Do the Americans not have something similar? Why, how does it work in Argentina Think?
Aah the Argentine economy: Sinking faster than The Belgrano
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 042 Redrow
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes it is exactly the same in the States you need a building permit to do pretty much anything and then it is a matter of record and then the County will assess to see if the property value has increased and then add the appropriate increase.
Although a lot of people will try and get away with it especially in the Sticks....add a pool or an extension to the back ...in the North it's mainly timber construction without founds and siding as an external cover so pretty easy to knock up!
They have never even heard of a DPM (Damp Prove Membrane) in Lowes and Home Depot ( B&Q equivalent)
So they have a warden from the County that goes sneaking about checking wherever they see construction...as a permit is displayed on the front of your property in the States....so they can check.....I know this...unfortunately from experience.
In the towns....suburban areas you can't even put a shed next to your house without a permit and you also are responsible for clearing the snow from the sidewalk in front of your property in winter....The USA is the most intrusive country I have ever come across....not so free as people make out!
42. Yes, that is how it is done here. We don't have Tax men sneaking around on your property and certainly not going inside.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice has never been here and over and over proves that fact by stating obviously incorrect answers. What a buffoon.
It looks like there is a possibility of getting some different faces in the Senate next month. They might be likely to win as long as they are anti-Cristina. My main problem is that some people have a price tag, and in those cases political alignment plays a minimal role.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After this, I'm fairly certain many people will regret having supported Marxist ideals. The well meaning theorist had no idea that his Manifesto would be used in destroying so many economies around the world.
Do leaders ever learn that Marxism doesn't work when they see that it fails catastrophically in one country after another?
The failure of every economic system starts with avarice.
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Sep 23rd, 2013 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a dumb stupid lying Yank you are....proving as usual you know fcuk all!
If the Warden or whatever he's called...even if he was a building inspector sees additions he doesn't have the expertise to assess he reports back then you will receive a notice of a visit...again you have never owned anything on your waiters wage so you haven't got a clue!
I'm beginning to doubt you have ever been to the US....
Why don' t you look up a building inspectors job responsibilities and show me where it has anything to do with the tax assessor. Of course we have building inspectors, duh.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again, I've made MAJOR improvements to properties and NEVER had a tax assessor come out for a visit. Never.
So tell m e what happens if you don't let them come onto your property? What happens if you deny this voluntary appointment? Do they go to court to get a warrant? Bring the Sheriff? Do you see where I am going with this?
Are you retarded or insane? Methinks a little of both but most certainly very bad liar. You'd think you;d do some research before you open your trap and make a fool out of yourself time and again.
@48 Don't rise to the bait. A_Voice has no credibility here. If he is attacking you, you are clearly touching a nerve.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 048
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are the dumb retard, if you have built an addition and the building inspector wishes to see it or the County assessor wants access to your property, if you don't comply that is exactly what they will do, they will get a court order and if needed, be accompanied by a sheriff to enforce it!
Are you some sort of Redneck that thinks the County and Government can't enforce there will on you? What are you going to do....see them off with your shotgun?
Yeehaw!....going fill your butt full of buckshot...ya'll come on my property agin!
Why don' t you look up a building inspectors job responsibilities and show me where it has anything to do with the tax assessor.
What part of this sentence didn't you understand...Dumbo?
....a building inspector sees additions he doesn't have the expertise to assess he reports back ..... then you will receive a notice of a visit.
......By an assessor....are we there yet?....are we there yet?....are we there yet?
God, you are an idiot... period!
Elaine, But isn't it fun to watch an idiot try to explain something he knows absolutely nothing about?
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do the same to Toby all the time.
But with Toby there was some language barrier mistakes I let slide but this half wit doesn't get that pass.
Voice whey don't you go over to Lycoming mall and map it out and to prove you live there
Oh wait here let me help you
http://shoplycomingmall.com/directory
Go get a nice fancy coat at Burlington with the rest of the welfare recipients.
Bahahaha
@51
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that language barrier is code word for I just had no comeback to his truths. I'm not a genius, I simply have the truth on my side thus is easy to argue.
My English is better than most of the natives here.
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Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have obviously proved you know nothing about property in the US ..ergo you have never owned one....Shouldn't you be serving on tables by now?
Does it tell you where the cash desks are situated in Book a Million in relation to the indoor entrance....does it...does it.....I can tell you then perhaps you could call them and see if I'm right.....Dumbo...right hand side against the wall...
Or perhaps some of the interiors of my local shops ...how about I describe them and you give them a call...see if I'm right...
Haha welfare.....do you have two homes in two continents?
.....I'll have my steak medium rare if you don't mind boy!!
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.....and what knowledge or credibility do you have on the subject of Building permits, Building codes, Zoning and Property Tax in the US??
.....for you that would be...Building warrants, Building regulations, Town and Country Planning and Council Tax in your language.....
IF you know something, please continue if not.....Butt out!
@19 See, this is where you've obviously lost track of the important things in society. But perhaps only in advanced societies. There's no evidence of any government controlling their phone calls, SMS, emails, and post. Even monitoring doesn't matter as long as you don't use words like bomb, Semtex, explosion, non-believers, Allah or kill. But if you use your hand to wipe your bum or don't go at all, you become an objectionable individual. Do you find that people avoid shaking your hand? Walking in that crabbed, slow manner with an expression of pain on your face is also a giveaway. Because you get in other people's way!
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara
@23 Do tell us about Kiciloff. Kicillof, who declined to be interviewed for this story, spent most of his career in academia, giving classes and writing about the theories of economists such as John Maynard Keynes and Karl Marx. he mocked the concept of the rule of law, Emerging markets analyst Walter Molano at U.S.-based BCP Securities called Kicillof a flaming red Marxist on Thursday.
@39 Do tell us more. I've been a property owner in the UK for more than 30 years. No assessors or surveyors”. And they'd have to prove they had a legal right to enter my property. And it is mine. Fully paid for.
@45 Plenty of things in the UK don't need a permit. I erected a 7 foot by 18 foot conservatory at the back of my house. No permit required. And it's been there for 20 years now!
@54 There's no evidence of any government “controlling their phone calls, SMS, emails, and post”. Even “monitoring” doesn't matter as long as you don't use words like “b---”, “S-----”, “e--------”, “non-b--------”, “A----” or “k--”.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really, then I think you should be expecting visitors” very shortly.
Gosh, the paranoia of Argentines can only come from having to watch their backs all the time.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I own property and abide by the laws. Planning laws are there to protect communities. Why do Argentines think all laws are bad and there to be broken? It is on the level of a teenager rebelling against the school uniform. If you want to live in society there has to be a structure to protect the majority.
I see there will be a few less National Guard available to protect the toilet paper in Venezuela as they have been arrested for smuggling 1.3 tons of cocaine to France.
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Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.......I was talking about the US
The UK works on Banding for Property Tax...Council Tax....you would need to significantly change the value to change the banding......
Yes there are lots of additions you can make in the UK without planning although you would need a building warrant if you had run the Central heating into the conservatory...legally!
Also the law has recently changed to allow large Extensions almost double previously without planning but still requiring a building warrant and inspection at founds level...insulation standards..etc...
This change is to stimulate the building industry with large scale home improvements etc...
Also if you have a large garden anything more than 5 metres from the house is classed as a shed so doesn't need planning as long as within the maximum dimensions and 4m height!
@56 ElaineB
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes they really are paranoid, aren't they?
They want to live in a totally free society - one that is free of all laws. Now most people would call such a thing arnarchy, because if there are no laws, and no law enforcement officer's, people will be free to do exactly as they please.
However, they still wouldn't be truly free, because whoever had the biggest gun would just turn up and steal everything from them, and they wouldn't have anyone to turn to.
Freedom is a strange concept in itself. No one is truly 100% free because to be a part of a society you must abide by the rules and laws of that society.
But let's get back to the acutal subject of the thread.
Argentina's inflation, which is already high, could go up even higher this year.
Tobias, who lives with his head buried in the sand, doesn't think this will be bad for the people of Argentina. But since he doesn't live in Argentina, he won't care.
I feel another default on the way. This one will be bigger, harder hitting and last longer than the last one.
It's a shame because Argentina has potential, but that same potential is squandered by thieving politicians and an apathetic public, who give little thought to the future, only to what is immediate.
Sad.
Argentina is #1 http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/09/23/argentina-most-expensive-place-to-buy-ipad-malaysia-cheapest/?mod=e2tw
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I have said, electronics will be out of reach of most Rgs very shortly. In a decade when the rest of the world is using something to communicate that hasn't been invented yet they'll be using the equvalent of the rotary phone.
At current Avg Arg Salary and real exchange rate it takes 3 months of wage to buy an ipad.
59 yankeeboy
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They could always by an Etch a sketch and pretend!
@55 I think not. Do you know how monitoring works? For anything electronic, a computer program reads everything at high speed. Suspect words are tagged for a closer look. Then another program examines larger segments of suspect material to get the word(s) in context. And thus you get to material that needs human examination. Other suspect material would be groups of sense-free characters or groups of digits. They get a program designed to crack encryption. Easy enough, as anyone who has used a password-cracker program knows.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57 I know what you were talking about.
@58 Quite right. And so we come back to viveza criolla. Apparently, Brazil has jeitinho that is much the same thing. It seems that Brazil also has Gerson's law and malandragem. It is suggested that it has now spread into Uruguay, but no telling from which direction. So that makes three countries where you can't believe a word they say!
Europe and the USA will be overrun by terrorists. You will communicate with smoke signals once you are bombed to 7425 BC.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@60, no we tried that on (at the time)my three year old. He didn't fall for it. Not for a split second. But back to this, I know there was a big snit in Australia with the App store when I was there for example and that my colleagues in the UK get rather p!ssy when I whip out my kool-aid drinking Mac-head attitude but how much of that pricing in Argentina is the same game Apple has been known to play worldwide and how much is the defacto inflation rate showing through.
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 062. How does one overrun a country of 330MM boarded by oceans?
Sep 23rd, 2013 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is just some fantasy you have that can not ever come to fruition so I will say, Dream on.
You should try and think about how terrible your life will be when Argentina is truly isolated because they can't afford the technology that communicates with whatever we will be using.
Just like you got color TV a generation after the rest of the world.
Same thing just more dire
A 7ft x 18ft extension would almost certainly be permitted development under UK planning law.
Sep 25th, 2013 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK government keeps cancelling revaluation due to cost which is why the current bands are ridiculously out of date.
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