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Cristina Fernandez prescribed 30 days medical rest, until after mid-term election
Argentine President Cristina Fernández was diagnosed “chronic subdural collection” and prescribed one month of rest after suffering cardiac arrhythmia, according to the official release from Government House on Saturday. Vice President Amado Boudou will manage the Cabinet for the upcoming 30 days. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIn other words, 16 paragraphs later, a subdural hematoma, resulting or associated from an incident of head trauma..
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is a serious, life-threatening diagnosis. Not a good sign.
head trauma ? that would explain a lot
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well in order to emulate Peron you are supposed to die young. I don't think song went - “when they bring your curtain down, demand to look like Jackie Stallone”.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what happened on 12th August when she sustained the head trauma? She was scanned and given the all clear but has been bleeding into the brain ever since. Surely she will need an operation to remove the clot?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0A 30 day shopping trip coming up.?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll leave the Moet on ice until it gets a bit worse.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0God I hope she doesn't die!
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would set the FIG back something chronic.
@4 ElaineB
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0In quite mild bleeds the best thing is to do nothing, they tend to sort themselves out. This is quite minor, if it wasn't she would already be under a neurosurgeons knife.
It's a coup d'état.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0No she's taking time off to count, oops, weigh her money. You know it's one of those chores you keep putting off, glad to see her biting the bullet and finally doing it.
What a pack of lies! Yeah the illness may exist but the seriousness and the gravity of it and its seriousness is very hard to tell, when the old Cyclops was still alive the government denied any sort of problem whatsoever and the whole thing was handled in utter secrecy and of course blamed Clarin for making the whole thing up……. and one day out of the blue he died.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is clearly going to be abused like the “no cancer” and the widow effect. Don’t I know your tricks by now… I don’t feel sorry for the old hag
And there only two options for why she is doing this, one is a use of this in the October midterm elections or else she is staging a sequenced exit and leaving the country to explode in someone else’s hands to return in the future
another story!
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0ck always finds a way to save time. no reason is crazy enough for her to make her a tragic figure. The country shall have compassion with her, the poor president, who works so hard for us...
But lies and pressure to creditors over years, 25 % inflation rate, no dollars to pay the bills for oil and food, being the enemy of nearly the whole world, not being seen as normal with her comments, make head ache, that´s well known to everybody.
Let´s see how she will work with Boudou, even more criminal as she herself.
A chronic subdural hematoma is a collection of ‘old’ blood and blood breakdown products between the surface of the brain and its outermost covering (the dura). The tiny vessels between the dura and surface of the brain burst and slowly leak blood. This is common in the aging, shrinking brain, following head injury.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina may have developed it by long term, heavy alcohol use, long-term use of aspirin, anti-inflammatory drugs, or blood thinning medication.
Symptoms may include confusion, coma, memory loss, limb weakness, headaches, seizures, and drowsiness. Cristina will be having her balance, coordination, mental functions, sensation, strength and ambulation checked – as well as CT and MRI.
She may need a cranial drain through drilled ports, or more extensive surgery to remove larger clots. Her bipolar problem may lead to more complex and persistent anxiety problems, but there are drugs to control and manage convulsive seizures.
I imagine running Argentina is a bit like ‘banging your head against a brick wall’ (A British saying); any bang could have triggered this issue.
I remain puzzled about the Thyroid story. After the scans, which would have (presumably) revealed asymmetric, solid enlargement, she would have had a biopsy which would have (presumably) indicated malignancy and which of the 4 main thyroid cancers it was. Thus, how it turned out to be benign after full thyroidectomy is really odd. Did they never actually do the tests first?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Anglotino,
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0l agree with you.
l hope she recovers.
She's the best General that we've got.
lf she goes, they might actually get someone who thinks.
11) Boudou means total anarchy...
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is internal polling is disastrous and she is planning an exit. Elaine and I have both predicted for years that she'd use a medical excuse to get out while the getting was good. So this may be it.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brain trauma sure does explain a lot though...
We always said she would bow out due to ill health when the tide of public opinion turned against her. If this is a chronic problem being used for her to avoid the mid-terms I guess she has started the process.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do we think Boudou is growing his hair in the style of Cristina?
@10 CD
Oct 06th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...Cyclops...”
Lol. I hadn't heard that one before.
@ 4 ElaineB
Oct 06th, 2013 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Surely she will need an operation to remove the clot?”
Why, do you think they will be able to save the clot so it can run the country?
She is readying the people for her abdication and flight to another country in order to “save her”.
Somewhere like NY perhaps, near the shopping malls.
the beginning of the end, you old hag! soon you maybe explaining to god your bullying of a small island of people 300miles from your home country!
Oct 06th, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why, do you think they will be able to save the clot so it can run the country?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahahaha, Chris I think it peed a little!!
Elaine, I am sure he can use the same wigs she uses. I hope he dusts them off first.
Yeah, How convenient probably going to Sloan Kettering because she knows how terrible the Hospitals are in Argentina.
@21
Oct 06th, 2013 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given what happened to Chavez, it definitely won't be Cuba.
She should retire to Dover with all her mates.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 CD
Oct 06th, 2013 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I fully agree with your assessment of the situation.
Hey Think… It looks like “The Boss” of Russia is going to have to get someone else to go over to the next G20 summit to iron his shirts!! ….. ;-)
Oct 06th, 2013 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#4 Elaine whatever happened on the 12th of August, it was negligence. Whomever aided in striking her should be jailed for not striking hard enough.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is too arrogant to face losing at the elections. And she needs to maintain the legacy of Nestor as some kind of deity. Is there anything left not named after him?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She will weep and wail about having to leave 'her' people and leave the mess to someone else. When you think about it, illness will be the perfect get-out for her, she can maintain her hold over her son's playmates and remain in Argentina (Max will not want to leave). She will be too ill to stand trial or answer to the mess she has made.
We shall see but this was always the predicted exit plan.
27)Though I still regard that theory as a possibility there is one basic problem and that is, what about all of her cronies that will become orphans overnight to the judges and vindictive peronists, that have being silenced over a decade??… The rats need to formulate an escape plan too!! If the rats don’t survive the purge and the whole structure that is the basis of Kirchnerism doesn’t remain loyal to her during “the exile” the chances of a triumphant return are greatly diminished
Oct 06th, 2013 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not an ounce of shame...the poor widow lady....
Oct 06th, 2013 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 LOL
Oct 06th, 2013 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When facing the strong liklehood of a rsounding defeatat the polls -and unsults and heckling at the campaigns - best come up with a reason to hide away and try the sympathy vote I guess.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where do you think she'll go, New York?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely not Havana or Caracas, though I'm sure she has memories of her dearest “Chubby”
Always coming down with something, maybe she should take a step back ( rather ruin her country!)
Oct 06th, 2013 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mid term elections
Oct 06th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.as-coa.org/guide-fall-2013-latin-american-elections#argentina
Maybe joining one eyed Nestor sooner than we think.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isnt Boudou still under invetigation for fraud and misappropriation of funds? As director of a sanitary company, will he be able to rescue his government from the crapper?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she'll probably come to the UK and get her treatment free on the NHS, after hiring a private jet of course
Oct 06th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 028 redpoll
Oct 06th, 2013 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Isnt Boudou still under invetigation for fraud and misappropriation of funds? ”
that was just the integrity prerequisite for his new interim position
It seems the blood clot was only discovered when examining for another problem. It was heart problems that put her in hospital. (Cue jokes about it being missing)
Oct 06th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She threw a hissy fit at her private doctors for not realising she had a blot clot and may yet need surgery for her heart problems. All a bit of a mess.
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Oct 06th, 2013 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Britworker Peron didnt die young.I think he snuffed it at 74,probably worn out by the exertions of his third wife, Isabel Martinez,a go-go dancer from Tucuman. She later became President of Argentina and her disastrous reliance on clairvoyants in directing the nations policies lead directly to the establishment of the military dictatorship
Oct 06th, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do Argentines put up with these pe0ple?
@41 I am pretty sure he was referring to Eva Peron. CFK has a shrine to her.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No shrine for Aurelia Tizon , Perons first wife in Rosario I presume?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0redpoll
Oct 06th, 2013 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Boudou has a very poor standing in the public eye .The toy boy landed in 2011 at the vice-presidency as a whim of Cristina and shortely after the Ciccone scandal came to light so after this he’s been left in the shadows for Kicilof the new arising toy boy of Cristina and climbing up still… Boudou may have legitimacy but doesn’t have any real political power.
I don’t really want her going early (dying or quitting physically handicapped) I want to see her Model collapse in her own hands rather than having herself handling the time bomb to explode on someone else . Nevertheless it will be best if she called out for anticipated elections when the crisis breaks out and a political power vacuum generates in the last 2 years remaining.
@28 the rats are already joining Massa. One thing to keep in mind: the most important people in Argentina aren't the leaders, but the rats. The President is just the guy that the rats put to sink the country and please the people, so they can keep eating the people's food.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 025) No, you don’t understand argentine politics…. The so called “rats” I was referring to are the ones who really are Kirchnerists, who really are in charge of the government, ministers, La Campora, fake ideologists like Carta Abierta, UyO, D’Ellia,etc. The Peronists had to simply cope with CFK and her husband as they controlled the 80% of the money of the state, and they have been waiting for quite some time to see someone of their own to get the votes they need to jump up on. Sure the Peronists also indulged in hanging on the widows skirts but most of them have being for years in politics even before the Kirchners arrived. Cristina really hates Peron, but the couple used the Partido justicialista and peronist liturgy to climb to power
Oct 06th, 2013 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s far more complicated than it seems from the outside
Whatz?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a whole month where she can't rent a British plane to fly to New York and make speeches at the UN about her birds in the belfry flying to and from the Falkland Islands.
What about our entertainment? is Boudou up to it? - and what if he ends up in jail for corruption before la presidenta is well again?
CD, I dont pretend to understand Argentine politics which seem to have been dominated for years by cuadillos intent on feathering thier own nest and to hell with the country
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What I ask is that we in Uruguay, who have our own problems, be left to resolve those ourselves without xenophobic bullying from the portenos of BA
48) No I wasnt really taking to you I ment 45 and I wrote by mistake 25. But I did answer in #44 what you posted on #36.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think Boudou will have any real power. Didn't Kicillof say he has CFK hypnotised? If she really is in his thrall she will be looking to the likes of him and Max to take the reins behind the scenes.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I am pretty sure I meant Eva Peron :-)
@ 17 ElaineB
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do we think Boudou is growing his hair in the style of Cristina?”
Doubt it very much - but he'll probably start wearing black to show that he's a some sort of bereaved widow after Nestor's death :-)
@50 Didnt Kicillof get harrased by his own citizens last year on his return on the ferry from Colonia, Uruguay where he has his bolt hole?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50 Well Boudou is already her designated Vice-president there is nothing she can do, she admitted to her inner circle that selecting him was a mistake. After Ciccone Kicilof gained a lot of power as he is really the Economy Minister as Lorenzino is a puppet, he has his fingers in YPF making life as hard as possible to poor Galuccio, he has some saying in Aerolineas Argentinas and I think he has got some people loyal to him pressuring in Enarsa trying to take De Vido out of there too. But apart from that there is not much more room for him to grow…
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s interesting you mentioned Max because it’s true it’s now or never for him, though he isn’t really taken that seriously outside Santa Cruz, but as the power vacuum gets the inner circle nervous who knows who they will turn to…
@53... yes thats him!
(Jokes aside, Cranial trauma and bleeding is pretty nasty especially if it's allowed to coast as it seems to have been allowed to do here.) But the question now comes... does this “time out” work to the advantage of FPV/PJs who want a break with Kirchnerism as well as other parties? Or does it give Kirchnerists a break from the already irate behavior to which Argentine politics had become accustomed before her accident by giving them a break from her frothy antics so they can pretend to be the party of the grownups for a month. (I can see a similar scenario for lead Tea Party icons in the America working to the advantage of both moderate ~and~ radical Republicans -- but anti-Palin/Bachman closeted misogyny aside, there are too many T-Party wannabe vanguardsmen for them to be “medically contained” into one person. )
Oct 06th, 2013 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps she should follow the example of her chubby chummy Chavez and get treated in Cuba?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(54) CabezaDura
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
”She (Cristina Kirchner) admitted to her inner circle that selecting him ( Amado Boudou) was a mistake.“
I say...:
Any links to that interesting piece of information..... or do we have to take your word for it?
You say...:
”Kicilof“
I say...:
”Kicillof“
You say...:
”Galuccio“
I say...:
”Galluccio“
You say...:
”It’s now or never for him (Máximo Kirchner), though he isn’t really taken that seriously outside Santa Cruz”
I say...:
Who takes Máximo Kirchner seriously in Santa Cruz ???
And speaking of the Devil, more like an Imp really:
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoKRwsHDeCM
55)It depends how real the whole thing is, something seems to be there but how serious it is I don’t know and its hard to trust them... I believe that if it was something serious they will keep it as quiet as possible like what happened to the personalist regimes of Nestor and Chavez. As they are not democratic and have a proper chain of command the regimes shake in absence of the supreme leader and internal dissidence emerges.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But with Cristina its very different as she uses the sympathy recourse and abuses it for electoral gains. As people are stupid and have fallen for this in the past like the widow vote and the no cancer sympathy I don’t see why they wouldn’t do so again. I personally distrust the whole thing, but this time things seem to be more serious (or at least better acted for now
TWIMC
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some good wishes twits for Cristina ………..
Mi solidaridad con @CFKArgentina, que está en reposo. Cristina es amiga de Brasil y amiga mía.
Dilma Rousseff
A la Sra. Presidenta de la Nación @CFKArgentina le deseamos una pronta recuperación.
Hermes Binner
Wishing you, @CFKArgentina a super duper, fast and zippy recovery.
El Think
@46 the Kirchnerists are the same kind of rats as the Peronists are. Most of them will jump ship eventually, maybe a few ministers will go to jail but that's it.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@59 Reading the BsAs press and the readers comments you are right about the sympathy vote being done to death.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Max has always had his mother's ear and she relies heavily on his advice.
@56 Does she need to? The Argentine doctors seem to be messing up pretty well.
@60 Finally got of the fence? Nice to know what your allegiances really are
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(63) redp0ll
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Finally got of the fence! Nice to know what your allegiances really are”
I say...:
What do you mean “Got of the fence” ?
I have always made it perfectly clear on this pages that my allegiance and my vote is with Hermes Binner....
) 57)Think, Jorge Asis has enough contacts with the inner circle, the same when I posted the article of her admitting that she regrets taking YPF from Repsol. I choose to believe him. This is the kind of thing she will ever say publicly. A lot of the juicy gossips that are leaking out ever more come from them the inner circle and the Ministers. Maximo like it or not did play heavily in the election in Santa Cruz no question about that, though he did loose.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 061) Massa hast got the endorsement of the peronist party and even he can’t fit in all of the “rats” in his party...Some names are no use to him at all. When regimes like these collapse, the next thing that occurs is a purge of the remnants
@63
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now we have an admission of what an idiot Think is.
He hardly seems like an idealist, or even a Populist - he hates the “Great Unwashed”, or “dupes”, I suppose.
One can only conclude: If he is not getting compensated for his loyalty, he must have 'personality issues'.
@66 Meet the cheese populist argentines of my everyday
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0( 65) CabezaDura
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Jorge Asis has enough contacts with the inner circle....”
I say...:
And who the heck is this “Jorge Asis”?
A Look-Alike of Omar Sharif?
@17 “Chronic” isn't too bad. In fact, it's the lowest classification. The worst case is “acute”, followed by “subacute”. Chronic subdural hematomas are common in the elderly.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 “The bleeding from a chronic bleed is slow, probably from repeated minor bleeds, and usually stops by itself.”
Think... This is what Jorge Asis posted in May of 2005, take your own conclusions http://www.jorgeasisdigital.com/2005/05/31/las-cajas-de-santa-cruz/
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get it??? I rest my case
Oh dear Tinko. Your momentary aberations are showing. Homer nodding perhaps?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You said
“Wishing you, @CFKArgentina a super duper, fastand zippy recovery. El Think”
Need I say more?
Chuckle chuckle
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Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Jorge Asis……. El Sirio Libanés sicópata, chantapufi y chamuyero amigazo de Menem, un otro sicopata Sirio Libanés chamuyero y chantapufi….. ”
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t know about that... But what I am aware of is him talking about is the cajas in Santa Cruz in May 2005 ... he said with pin point accuracy 8 years ago what Lanata actually proved this year...Besides he was the one responsible that now Cristina's lover-boy is covered in shit right now and not liked by anyone for he was the one to discover Ciccone scandal. So yes all my recognition and respect to him...
(73) CabezaDura
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“I don’t know about that.”
I say...:
Well.... You should......
When one chooses to invest ones recognition and respec in a man.... it is wise to know his full trajectory, lad...
You say further....:
“But what I am aware of is him talking about is the cajas in Santa Cruz in May 2005 ... he said with pin point accuracy 8 years ago what Lanata actually proved this year.”
I say....:
Sorry but........... what did Lanata actually prove this year?
Lanata just took Asis's provincial gossip story from 2005, revamped it, and presented us with a lot of................. hot air.
Ok Tinko What has Brunhilde the black Widderwoman ever conceded to Uruguay in exchage for her continued obstructionism and neo imperialistic ambitions?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A toy train that ran from nowhere in particular(Vilar) in Argentina to nowhere at at all(Paso de los Toros) in Uruguay.Lauched with all fanfare,pomp and ceremony by Kristina it only completed its run once and now rots in a siding in Argentina. The public response was fantastic! On the return inaugural journey only two people boarded the tren binacional
Maybe the driver and his brakeman were anxious to get back to thier teas? Brakeman was of course a sinecure as most RA trains dont seem to have any brakes anyway
Lanata and Asis are journalist, they are not prosecutors...It's not Lanatas fault that judge Casanello is a turtle and is doing everything he can to NOT SOLVE the case....
Oct 06th, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When Boca-River ends watch this..... About Menem he answers for himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIquvhs7tHI
(76) CabezaDura
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't tell me that you are a bostero.......
77) At last we may just agree on something Think....
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77 If anyone has more intimacy with horse shit...Well inyour profession, hoase whisperer, you must be tops
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very convenient she gets “ill” before and through the elections. Does this moron still see herself in the light of Evita? Then do the Argentines a favor and follow her same path and drop dead.....and quickly. Don't tease Argentina with lies like this because you think you will get a pity vote. Kirchner, you're pathological lying, criminally thieving puke. You need to follow Evita and Nasty “eagle eyed” nestor and DIE ALREADY!!! The ass kicking you and the victory front will get this month will turn your own party against you for self preservation. They are going to hang you in November.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(80) redp0ll
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not a profession..................; it's a hobby.
@82 Sure thing.Its just a hobby horse?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A CANDLE FOR CRETINS.
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As it was expectable, some people who can't be serious detractors of kirchnerism, need to wish cristina's death, or prefer expressing that this is just a politic operation, and it's because not only they are too misserable as human beings, but also because they are so ignorant that they think that kirchnerism is just c. f. k., that's why they think that if cristina dies, kirchnerism will be over. Although most comments here were made respectfuly this time, unfortunatelly always appear some reactionary people. This is evident that what those cretins can't see, is that kirchnerism has a very active support along argentina. In fact, there are two very important detaills, which are sistematicly ignored by hegemonical press, i mean the fact that although the president's party didn't win in the most important districts of the country, however f. p. v. and it's allies got the 31,1% of votes, which became it into the most voted force of the country. If we take into account the detaill that c. f. k's party has ruled the nation for ten years, it's amazing the fact that it's still the most voted party of argentina, which is a privilege that not many political parties around the world can have.
Another important detaill, is related to what f. p. v. should get in next elections, because if it gets a similar result to what it got in august, c. f. k's party will continue rulling the country without signifficant parliamentary obstacles, which is what really matters.
However, in our corporate press are usually published mischievous lectures, which predict the so called end of cycle of kirchnerims.
I agree on criticising the falencies of c. f. k's government, however the source for discussing about those issues can't be our hegemonical press, and you all know why, although many of you prefer ignoring it.
I confess that i have been more worried than ever since yesterday, but i have also the hope that cristina will recover soon.
A Kandel for Kretina,axel? What are you on about? Some folk from her own party been sticking pins into a wax effigy of her?
Oct 06th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A CANDLE UP YOUR ARSE AXEL
Oct 06th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kirchnerism is nothing without CFK or Nestor. You have tried with Alicia, with Maximo and you even considered Florencia. You are over. You are ultimately supporting a dynastic monarchy in control of the power of state, followed and believed by a very few cheap cheese populists like yourself who really believe in the myth and the lies you have being told. They KK have being a decade in power that’s true, but during the most part of its history allied with Clarin, Moyano and the Barons of the Conurbano…The first two have abandoned you in 2008 and 2012 and the last ones are leaving you as we speak. Massa is ahead of you 10% in October. You are over. You are just living “Los años de Bignone”, with a vague hope of returning in 2019 or inventing Urribarri for 2015 by remaking a chauvinist fight against Uruguay from a none issue. Nuff said
P.S Why don’t you address me directly if you're post is intended mostly for me ??
84Axil Aargh
Oct 06th, 2013 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I agree on criticising the falencies of c. f. k's government, however the source for discussing about those issues can't be our hegemonical press, and you all know why, although many of you prefer ignoring it.”
AXIS AARGH
Please, please tell us:
Why CAN'T Argentine VOTERS discuss and exchange information about the Argentine government in the Argentine Press???
Are the people 'not qualified' to discuss politics or express an opinion??
Is it 'unfair' or 'unpatrioric' for the Press to report on the recent performance of a government up for re-election??
Please, who is 'allowed' to comment or freely ask questions of the candidates, if not the journalists or the VOTERS??
Simple questions - let's see your principles, Axis.
Waiting...
77 Think
Oct 07th, 2013 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 01-0 :-)))
http://www.clarin.com/deportes/afiches-triunfo-Boca-Superclasico-River_0_1006099911.html
(88) Marcos Alejandro
Oct 07th, 2013 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0LPQLPBDM..... ;-)))
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Oct 07th, 2013 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Axel, let's talk after the elections, if you show up. The voters are going to hand her ass back to her served on a plate. She's due for an ass waxing. Kirchnerism destroyed Argentina=.......the last few nails in the coffee. Between the IMF pending issues and tomorrows SCOTUS outcome.......A country can piss on some countries all the time.....and all the countries some of the time, but not all the countries all the time. Your day of reckoning is fast approaching.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0A bedtime story for you Think voice over dover or any other names you go by.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 05:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The folowers of the Nestorian heresy in Argentina were getting a raw deal from the search engines like google and wikipedia,such sites by telling the truth being detrimental to thier way of thinking
So the Archmandrite,St Tinselman had an idea to launch a search engine more sympathetic to his sect
The name of the site? enCYCLOPedia of course
:-D
Oct 07th, 2013 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Subdural-haematoma/Pages/Symptoms.aspx
Oct 07th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think...
Oct 07th, 2013 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0PYPIYBGASHTFU. !
LOL!
It will probably be the ventricular tachycardia that causes her death - a major shock could do it ... and I believe she is overdue for a shock.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0But sky-high blood-pressure could burst a larger vessel in the cranium.
Both are fairly quick ways to go, and both give you sufficient time to reflect on your life.
[Mine was an aortic aneurism adjacent to the heart. Major thoracic surgery and my plumbing replaced with dacron tubing.
Left with a huge scar from neck to belly ... and a never-ending line of specialists, each telling me “You've no idea how lucky you were”.
Eight years on, I live every day seeing life's real beauty.]
If Christina can last out the coming months she could, with a quiet retirement, live to see a genteel old age - probably in a sanatorium in Switzerland.
How very lucky you were, Geoff. Certainly puts it all in perspective.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0She should consider investing in a cushioned headboard to avoid this injury being sustained again.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not buying this “nothing but black” attire years after the event.
@96 GeoffWard2
Oct 07th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd book her in to a Dignitas clinic for a one-off treatment.
Axel
Oct 07th, 2013 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me explain to you how the “outside world” sees Kirchnerism and its followers like you.
1) Argentina borrows money that it has ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION of paying back. This is different from borrowing money and then running into difficulty and needing help. Argentina plans to STEAL and then play the victim.
2) Argentina has a propoganda machine that would make Hermann Goering blush. The downright lies that it feeds its population, and that are swallowed by morons like you, are extraordinary.
3) Argentina uses a make-believe set of fantasies about 1833 to divert the gullible morons and unite all under a nationalist fervour against an imagined enemy and an imagined cause. Again, an old fascist ploy.
Peronism/Kirchnerism has done two things to Argentina. The first is driven it almost to bankrupcy despite having a wonderful foundation and massive natural resources...this could be fixed. However, the second is far far more damaging...They have polluted the Argentine populus. They have made lying, cheating, thieving, laziness and corruption not just acceptable, but admirable. It is shameful, and will take generations to undo.
You are living proof of this axel. You see yourself and your country as victims, claiming that other are mediocre and reactionary...but you are quite happy to trawl out offensive and inaccurate doctrines. Typical Argentine Peronist/Kirchenerist behavior.
I for one hope that CFK makes a full recovery, for the simple reason that everyone internationally can see that she and Timmerman are ridiculous. I don't believe that the Argentine people will or can elect a non-corrupt “grown-up” government so anyone less ridiculous than CFK could only be more dangerous to the Falkland islanders.
Its a shame, a waste and will take generations to fix. Argentina is indeed wasted on the Argentines.
@88 You have even made posters and celebrated draws.... Poor second half. The Monumental was packed with people and that doesnt make any favours to the home side.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“chronic subdural collection”
Oct 07th, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmmm, not sure about that. In the photo, her lips seem to be lacking their usual voluptuousness. I wonder if she too signed up with Pirelli, and that is the problem..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-2436499/Pirelli-continue-F1-tyre-supplier-2014.html
CD et al We seem to have got onto sport, so just a small tribute to Dr Felipe Contepomi who hung up his boots over the weekend after scoring over 600 points for the Pumas in his long career. A great player, a great sportsman and I think a great sporting ambassador for his country Argentina
Oct 07th, 2013 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PS.No comments about what may cause a high speed blowout in the case of CFK's
Oct 07th, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lips please.
@103
Oct 07th, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I totally agree with you, pity you cannot say the same about football, fancy a high profile Argentinian footballer cheating the tax authorities. Can this be true???
@103 Yes, I’m not much into Rugby but yes he was great player indeed we will have to see who this impacts on the Pumas, he was always a positive part of the team, but the truth is he was getting on. Its pity that he had to retire after a very poor performance in the Rugby Championship by the Pumas
Oct 07th, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@105 I don’t know who much Messi knew of his father’s doings I’m pretty sure this happens all the time with other players, but you get to know about this because he is Messi and he gets to be in the spotlight always. Apart from that Messi always stands as a very down to earth, educated and humble guy yet earning millions of euros but I never heard of him related to hookers and drug stories. He is the complete antithesis of the common Argentine Rugby players so better shut up for now…
SCOTUS turned them down.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let the games begin
@107 yankeeboy
Oct 07th, 2013 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just read about it now. Looks like you were right.
Any links?
Oct 07th, 2013 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@109: Stealing some of Steve's thunder ;-P
Oct 07th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/10/07/top-court-will-not-hear-argentina-debt-case/?ref=supremecourt&_r=0
Anyone know when the second appeal is due to be heard?
Oct 07th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CABEZA DURA:
Oct 07th, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sorprised for your mischievous leture, this is evident that you don't realise that you, and some other detractors who just hate c. f. k., but who can't make a serious analysis of this issue, are commiting the same stupid mistake than in 2009, when after the electoral result of that legislative election, they started talking about the so called end of cycle, however in 2011, reality was too sad for those people.
Be serious, if you can, and realise once and for all that it's still too soon to say that kichnerism is nothing without cristina. I would never underestimate the activism of the political parties who aren't kirchnerist, but it would be better also if many of you stop underestimating us, instead of being so misserable.
TROY TOMPEST: You are not stupid, you and everybody else know why clarin, la nación and perfil aren't serious sources for discussing about falencies of c. f. k's government, in fact we have already discussed about it, beside i dated some jornalists who are also detractors of kirchnerism, but who are serious peple, and deserve much more to be dated than that cretin press, if you prefer believing the contrary, i respect it, but i won't waste my time talking to people who read such mediocre press.
MONKEYMAGIC: I know perfectly how your outside world sees arg, and kichnerims, in fact, i have discussed about it in planty of opportunities.
Actualy that so called outside world has no more than the tipicall too partial view, characteristic of empires, which aims to stigmatize leftist governments considered like populist, in fact you are a good proof of the people who buys easily the missinformation of that mediocre press.
Anyway beyond that kind of decadent press that you and many others love reading, i just can tell you that despite all the serious problems that we still have, and despite the contradictions and falencies of c. f. k's governments, i'm proud of all the achievements that we could get in the last ten years.
All Brits are Nazis, or just most?
Oct 07th, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do not you commit suicide? It would save a lot of work to the world!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6WRZ8iBQzQ&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
@113
Oct 07th, 2013 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Brits stood alone in the World when they fought the fascist between 1940 and 1942. Meanwhile Argentina claimed the Falklands in 1941 and were marching around in jackboots. Argentina's entry into WW2 in February 1945 must have contributed to Hitler's suicide - LOL.
@112 LOL!! “but who can't make a serious analysis of this issue” you say....
Oct 07th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ohhh wouldn’t you love for that to be true… Hahahaha, what have got left after the old hag?? Maximo?, Urribarri? La Campora? You have NOTHING left and most importantely you no longer will have the “CAJA”. You people never understood which Is the real base of power that allowed you to exist. Nestor created it, but after his death his widow did not get it, and dynamated it by believing fairy tells she made up in her own mind which only fools like you believe. After Nestor died and the triumvirate of Massa, De Narvaez and Solá broke, it was clear at late 2010 that Cristina was for the win if she would present herself because there was nobody else to take her place amongst the rats, and already in early 2o11 you started talking about modifying the constitution to get the reelection. Soy bean over US$ 500 and the dollar was still 4,50 AR$ in 2011, with no real opposition and the sympathy effect it was a written on the wall she was going to win. Now you must realize the clock is ticking in “Los años de Bignone”
She is undergoing surgery tomorrow
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1626828-la-fundacion-favaloro-confirmo-que-manana-van-a-operar-a-la-presidenta-cristina-kirchner?utm_source=canchallena&utm_medium=bomba
Now I do feel so sorry for her, poor president, perhaps I was too harsh, I will vote for you in October,……………..NOT
it all sounds like a fake cry for sympathy......proof of illness please!
Oct 07th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BREAKING NEWS is that she is going to surgety tomorrow
Oct 07th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1626828-la-fundacion-favaloro-confirmo-que-manana-van-a-operar-a-la-presidenta-cristina-kirchner
I must admit that she really does look like sh_t now
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Oct 07th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with Mr think.....
Oct 07th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....you are all bad people....
...What goes around, comes around....
.... a speedy recovery and best wishes....
I don't believe in coincidence
Oct 07th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SCOTUS turns down the case
Horrible Internal Polling
Health Crisis
How convenient
@117 I have an electric impact drill and a 2-inch drill bit they could use! “Tingling in the left arm”? Cardiac problems?
Oct 07th, 2013 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@118&119 I also wish her a fast recovery .....................................I want to see her in jail. Looking as miserable as she did today going in to the Hospital
Oct 07th, 2013 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@121 I believe that the exess pressure in her head will be solved with a couple of laxative pills
She's pulled a stunt like this when she (did not) have cancer of the thyroid. She was the ONLY one to have a false positive in 32,000 cases (from memory) and they fired the doctor. She actually had her throat lifted, but regrettably not by hanging from a lamppost.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Washed her face in preparation I read, that will reduce her weight by 20 Kg.
Tingling in her left arm is in direct response to the money she carries in the handbag.
Well I hope the old bag dies and the clot is allowed to run The Dark country: it can't be any worse.
What’s the betting we will get the old boilers from La Campora setting up a “vigil” like last time?
Ha, ha, ha.
@122 well said, all that comes out of her head is hot air and s***. Maybe with her brain repaired she will be able to understand that Argentina will never again control the Falklands, I always thought she needed her head examining for believing that a 2nd hand 19th century claim to the islands was more valid than Britain's 1765 claim.
Oct 07th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@119 of course you are going to agree with Mr Think you are most likely the same person, either way you are the minority in wishing her good health.... :)
Oct 07th, 2013 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but don't worry she will make miraculous recovery (again), its already scripted.....
who knows maybe she will say it was the spirit of Chubby Chavez in the form of a little bird that cured her and pulled her through, but that's getting old now!
or...
how about she had vision of the rapist/killer/fugitive & unsurprisingly, argie folk hero “el gaucho”, guiding her through the darkness and showing her the way to the fictional promise land of Malvinas! I dare say a few of her peasants will swallow that shit!
SELF-DETERMINATION
112Axis Aargh
Oct 07th, 2013 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“TROY TOMPEST: You are not stupid, you and everybody else know why clarin, la nación and perfil aren't serious sources for discussing about falencies of c. f. k's government, in fact we have already discussed about it, beside i dated some jornalists who are also detractors of kirchnerism, but who are serious peple, and deserve much more to be dated than that cretin press, if you prefer believing the contrary, i respect it, but i won't waste my time talking to people who read such mediocre press.”
“Not serious sources” - what does that mean?
“...mediocre press” - what does THAT mean???
Are these “sources” not edited or controlled by La Campora, is that the problem??
What are your 'requirements' for discussions of politics??
Can't anyone freely discuss politics in your country?
IF these publications or journalists LIED or LIBELLED the K's publicly in the popular media, surely CFK would have had them arrested and charged.
On the other hand - very frustrating for CFK if what Lanata & Co. Said was true - and she could do nothing about it !!
Your ideas of rights and principles are very “mediocre” as you say.
“Oppressive”, as we say.
@112 Nice speech, how about one word: Inflation.....
Oct 07th, 2013 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0117 CabezaHueca
Oct 08th, 2013 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V1DSAbv2s
Warning..... leftie jeropa above
Oct 08th, 2013 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Warning..... Horse Meat Disco fan above
Oct 08th, 2013 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not much to say Marquitos ?? I understand
Oct 08th, 2013 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As folks will have gathered I hardly ever comment here now, better things to do and all that, but I just thought I'd pop in to let y'all know I've been thinking of and praying for the full and speedy recovery of the lovely Cristina, and sent a couple of get well soon messages of my own to add to add to the very impressive outpouring of love and support she's been receiving (so I doubt she'll especially notice mine, but that's a good problem to have and still probably more worthwhile than arguing on here!) Anyway looks like she's recovering well and should be back soon, hopefully still wearing those lovely black tights I never got to comment on here but definitely standing up to the banksters and vultures just the way we like it =)
Oct 10th, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did anyone else notice this guy stopped commenting?
Oct 10th, 2013 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0133 Anglotino
Oct 10th, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought he had finally “managed” to get to The Dark Country that he loves and somebody had knifed him.
Anglotino
Oct 10th, 2013 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was just wondering about “BK”, LOL
Now, true to form, he jumps in to say “rah rah CFK”
“BK” in the past, has stuck to jumping onto the end of a thread to give a spurious summary, make an inflammatory statement or two, and verbally masterbate to thoughts of CFK.
:-D
Being the end of the thread, he was largely unnoticed and nobody got around to rebutting his nonsense.
BK has readily admitted that he says ridiculous things to create outrage and indignation, nothing more.
Perhaps he sees this episode as an “end of thread” for Cristina???
BK - the 'Grim Reaper'!
Troy, I don't ever envision BK realizing the demise of the Kirchner regime. Even when they oust her prior to her full term.
Oct 10th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When they finally put Mrs Kirchner in her coffin they better check to see whether BK has “creeped” in there with her. We all know what these Argy types are like.
Oct 11th, 2013 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0C'mon B_K, tell us the truth.
Oct 11th, 2013 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're so much in love that you would forgive her anything.
l don't like the woman but l think that it is touching.♥
Good luck(you're going to need it!).♥
#138 Why don’t you take her with you??? She can become president of the Falkland Islands. Being Southerners and all.
Oct 11th, 2013 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can keep the islands, Santa Cruz Tierra del Fuego.... Ohh and don’t forget Chew But, you can take that as well too, there is people that truly love you there too, so don’t have to be so jealous of Cristina……………………..;-)
#137 BK is collecting pics for that joyous day. When she's gone, he is seriously worried what he will be waxing his wood to.
Oct 11th, 2013 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@139 CabezaDura,
Oct 11th, 2013 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well shes not coming into our house but l'm sure l could find something for her to do.
Like digging up my vege patch or watering my flowers, or even feeding the dogs.
£1 per week, her food & a place to sleep.
And thats my final offer. lol!
141) you have a deal. Cristina will gladly go wherever she can to escape courts after 2015...
Oct 11th, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PS: Can you actually grow some veg in those in those islands?? what kind of veg? It so windy and cold down there even the trees are twisted and combed by the wind
@139 Perhaps Sr Think from Chubut might be a more productive bet as an under gardener? He just LOVES the Falkland Islands
Oct 11th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0143) Indeed but I “think” it may be more mutual than we believe ;-)
Oct 11th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No CD. If she fed him on turnip soup twice a day,he would be a happy camper
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