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Paraguay congress votes 10% export tax on grains and soybeans. Cartes expected to veto the bill
A controversial bill imposing a 10% tax on grains and oil seeds exported in their natural state was finally approved by the Paraguayan congress. The bill presented in 2012 was passed in the Senate, rejected in the Lower House and again ratified by the Upper House, however Deputies could not round up the necessary 53 votes to again reject it. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI believe 10% is OK, and only on soy bean ….But not more than that and leave the other crops and agricultural productions tax free for exports. Soy-fication may have being a life saver but it is also true that it is a social environmental and political problem in Argentina
Oct 11th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“since these two cereals are planted as complementary and alternative to soybeans and thus will not be profitable to export them”.
I don’t know about the soils and the weather in Paraguay, but it seems an odd assessment. You can always transform the maize into feed to produce milk or meat if it is not profitable as corn, the same is true for winter grain grasses like wheat.
This law will bring many losses to Paraguay. Let's beware.
Oct 11th, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 We have had retentions on soy bean in Argentina of 35% and it hasnt stopped the soy bean from being sowed all over the country
Oct 11th, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has the capacity to refine soy oil and Bio diesel, even accused of dumping by the EU, does Paraguay have the same capacity, or must it be exported as “soybeans in their natural state”?
Oct 11th, 2013 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If so, the farmers are “over a barrel” as we say.
4) What has the refineries got to do with anything? In Argentina there is 35% taxes on soy bean exports and it's still profitable, its less risky than maiz for example
Oct 11th, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is there is an alternative market to exporting the beans and paying tax.
Oct 11th, 2013 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is profitable in Argentina may not be profitable in Paraguay!
Yes I know what you mean but prices are typically much cheaper in the local market than outdoors, what seems strange is that corn and wheat(I would believe it’s too warm for wheat over there) are not profitable in Paraguay…
Oct 11th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 CD Basically agree with you
Oct 11th, 2013 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As regards the U$D300m this tax will raise I am in agreement, so long as it does not disappear into politicians back pockets and doesnt be used to subsidize the “wont works, as I am better off on welfare”
It would be much better to process the crops in country, particularly as Paraguay has an abundance of cheap electric power. Exporting a tanker of soy oil is much cheaper in transport costs than exporting the crude product and as you rightly say the sub products can be used in the dairy or cattle industry so stimulating that sectorof the agricultural industry
I think Paraguay must not make the same mistakes Argentina maid… They can start using the money to build rural roads and infrastructure to lift the economy. I don’t know if they already process the bean and get oil from it in Paraguay, but it will be coming soon surely.
Oct 11th, 2013 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t know besides if the Paraguayan soils can retain minerals like they do in central Argentina and Uruguay… A lot of deforested land in the north of Argentina is becoming useless after a couple of years of soy and maze
CD You echo my thinking exactly
Oct 11th, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Oct 11th, 2013 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fact is that you can't construct a proper State/Country/Nation without proper taxation of all its Citizens.
Fact is that “Paraguay’s Agriculture Coordinator, CAP, through its President warned that the approval of a bill taxing exports of grains and soybeans in their natural state can only be interpreted as a “WAR DECLARATION on the country’s farming sector”
Fact is that progressive forces in Paraguay in particular, and in the rest of South America in general are fighting against such ”Trigger Happy Mentality”
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=43d_1381263579
Thinko Even though you are way off thread, I deplore the murder as much as you do and hope the alleged culprit at presently “at bay” (Did they mean at large?) may be arraigned before the courts in short order. How is your turnip patch growing down in Chubut?
Oct 12th, 2013 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0(12) redp0ll
Oct 12th, 2013 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“ Even though you are way off thread... ”
I say...:
I'm “way off thread”?
What about Mr. Hector Cristaldo, president of Paraguay’s Agriculture Coordinator, CAP, who warned that the approval of a bill taxing exports of grains and soybeans in their natural state (with 10%) can only be interpreted as a “WAR DECLARATION on the country’s farming sector....”
It's NOT a “Manner of Speach”.
Is the core ideology of that people.
And the above video is a symptom and reminder of it.
@11 Thinko I presume by your third para in your post you give unqualified support for the EPP?
Oct 12th, 2013 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(14) redp0ll
Oct 12th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usual, you presume wrongly.................
Then ,O Sage of Chubut, with your infinite wisdom,can you please elucidate why my presumption is incorrect?
Oct 12th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(14) redp0ll
Oct 12th, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because it is........
11)Think
Oct 12th, 2013 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can are least try to elaborate more and go to the point, comments like that are not that intelligent as you believe they are, they are just dysfunctional and meaningless
@17 Thinko Thank you for your scintillating reply. You been taking lessons from Timerman? Really not up to even your standard and you can do better than that
Oct 12th, 2013 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 019) redpoll LOL… I’ve seen what he does. I kind of summarized his “modus operandi” by now. He throws an ambiguous, intriguing and no real essence comment, with of course with no point nor clear intention and when people engage him or try to find out what he is on about, he comes back to them to basically reply continually in the ambiguous, no point way he did earlier, and finally ends up like “I’m so clever, I’m Mr. Think form Chubut, it’s not about that, you don’t get what I’m saying, you are not intelligent enough to understand”
Oct 12th, 2013 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hpw could we possibly know why you lot presume what you do?
Oct 13th, 2013 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0It could be many factors.
Difficult childhood.
Bullied youth.
General and consistent harrassment.
Brain damage.
Lack of nutrition....
You see guys, give Think a break here, or at least more information if you want him to offer a better diagnosis...
TWIMC
Oct 13th, 2013 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Verbum sat sapienti est…
A word to the wise is sufficient…
A buen entendedor, pocas palabras…
21) Dont I love these Dr Phils on the internet................ ;-)
Oct 13th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's not that complicated. If you are not interested or don’t know anything about the subject you rather not comment at all. Simple as that, yet Think is a notorious “vende humo”.
If he didn’t have this intentional and dishonest ambiguity in his comments and that desperate need of bragging about himself all the time and develop these bizarre theories to somehow show is infinite wisdom and intellect, it will help him a lot.
TWIMC……
Oct 13th, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Inform yourselfs
Who is Mr. Hector Cristaldo?
Hector Cristaldo is the president of the Coordinadora Agrícola del Paraguay (CAP) and vice-president of the Union de Gremios de la Producción (UGP) and is supported by numerous agribusiness interests.
He works for billonaire Aldo Zuccolillo who also owns the ABC Color newspaper, founded 1967 under the Stroessner dictatorship.
Agribusiness corporations in Paraguay hardly pay any taxes because of the strong support they have in the right wing congress.
Landowners do not pay taxes…… Property taxes account for only 0.04% of the tax burden, some $5 million, according to a recent World Bank study.
This despite the fact that agribusiness makes up around 30% of GDP, representing about US$6 billion annually.
Paraguay is one of the most unequal countries in the world....85% of its land, around 30 million hectares, are in the hands of 2 percent of landowners.
These landowners use the land almost exclusively for industrial agriculture and, in some cases, merely for speculation.
http://www.foodfirst.org/en/Agribusiness+Coup+in+Paraguay
24) But why couldn’t you investigate and present a point before hand??? You now more or less have a related case to the article at least instead of randomly accusing and relating the Paraguayan CAP to trigger happy policemen like you did before(wtf!!!)… I know that you went un-digging stuff after your original post in the web to make you seem more serious (Which I personally don’t “think” you are not) but at least you see can do far better??
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Oct 14th, 2013 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 028) Y como no se te va a helar la sangre si sos un pecho frío?? Paralos vos a los nenes de Moyano...
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Oct 14th, 2013 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fascinating discussion from #26 ~#31 !!!!
Oct 15th, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great pedagogy for monolingual brains ;)
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