Guyana says the Venezuelan navy has entered its territorial waters and detained a US-operated ship. The government said the Venezuelan actions in the disputed Essequibo region constituted a serious threat to peace in the region. Read full article
I can see the Venezuelans having a field day on this one… These are the typical kind of clashes and incidents they love to play, but one day things might get out of their hands and they will end up being thrashed…
If the Americans had guns onboard and fired at the Venezuelan Navy trying to arrest them and the Venezuelans would have fired back and killed some of the crew this would of being far more complicated
I know this stuff is mostly of rhetorical purpose, of course nor Chavez previously nor Maduro now will be stupid enough to engage with full consent the US. But what I’m trying to say is that little clashes like these which they like to push for might end up in something very serious when American corpses are on the table and then any US president is cornered politically to act.
I remind you the only thing the US needs to do is destroy their navy and some of their infrastructure erase the Palacio de Miraflores to make a point and humiliate the Chavistas, no need to put boots on the ground
Yet another S. American territorial dispute flares up, CFK & Co have succeeded in making them very fashionable. Soon everyone down there will have one.
Very dangerous game Venezuela, one false move??????
I spent a while in Guyana some years ago and i noted that Guyana is about as South American and Lybia is African.
The people speak a form of English, they play cricket; the radios blast out Caribbean music not latin music; they look towards the north, their back very much turned to SA. Their friendly rivalries are with the Anglophone nations of the Caribbean. I would say that Guyanese consider themselves to be Caribbean more than South American, and in no way Latin American.
Due to the long running border dispute with Venezuela, I image that they have maintained close military ties with the UK, the US and possibly Colombia.
I've had a quick view over Telesur & Venezolana tv which are under the government and this hasn't come up as main news so perhaps they are a bit more realistic this time about not upsetting relations with Guyana
This US/Panamanian/Singaporean contract seismic search vessel may well have been surveying either side of the demarkation line (see ref. below). I make no comment as I have no information on this.
However it was interdicted by Venezuela in Guyanan waters; this was stupid. The fact that it remains impounded by Venezuela compounds the stupidity.
I think that the Venezuelan Marine have seen the boundary conflicts between the Falklands and Argentina - and between Gibraltar and Spain - and decided that a bit of 'externality' can take the heat off their own internal problems.
Pity for them that they chose to engage with a multinational foreign enterprise rather than a fishing boat; bad choice.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI wouldn't complain at having a few days in Margarita right now.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seismic survey only by the looks of things.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both countries believe they are in the right regarding the ownership of the seabed where the survey was taking place.
ICJ folks?
H´mm : this could get interesting : a potential bust up between brotherly socialists.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see the Venezuelans having a field day on this one… These are the typical kind of clashes and incidents they love to play, but one day things might get out of their hands and they will end up being thrashed…
Oct 13th, 2013 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the Americans had guns onboard and fired at the Venezuelan Navy trying to arrest them and the Venezuelans would have fired back and killed some of the crew this would of being far more complicated
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Oct 13th, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed, but they didn't fire at each other.
It could still get complicated if Obuma thinks he can get political mileage from this.
It would be funny to see Maduro take on the US.
I know this stuff is mostly of rhetorical purpose, of course nor Chavez previously nor Maduro now will be stupid enough to engage with full consent the US. But what I’m trying to say is that little clashes like these which they like to push for might end up in something very serious when American corpses are on the table and then any US president is cornered politically to act.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I remind you the only thing the US needs to do is destroy their navy and some of their infrastructure erase the Palacio de Miraflores to make a point and humiliate the Chavistas, no need to put boots on the ground
Yet another S. American territorial dispute flares up, CFK & Co have succeeded in making them very fashionable. Soon everyone down there will have one.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very dangerous game Venezuela, one false move??????
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Oct 13th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct!
Venezela needs to be in the news: different ones than the poverty, corruption, criminality and misgovernment that assolates terminally ill Venezuela.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More of that South America brotherhood we keep hearing about.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I spent a while in Guyana some years ago and i noted that Guyana is about as South American and Lybia is African.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The people speak a form of English, they play cricket; the radios blast out Caribbean music not latin music; they look towards the north, their back very much turned to SA. Their friendly rivalries are with the Anglophone nations of the Caribbean. I would say that Guyanese consider themselves to be Caribbean more than South American, and in no way Latin American.
Due to the long running border dispute with Venezuela, I image that they have maintained close military ties with the UK, the US and possibly Colombia.
I've had a quick view over Telesur & Venezolana tv which are under the government and this hasn't come up as main news so perhaps they are a bit more realistic this time about not upsetting relations with Guyana
Oct 14th, 2013 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0This US/Panamanian/Singaporean contract seismic search vessel may well have been surveying either side of the demarkation line (see ref. below). I make no comment as I have no information on this.
Oct 14th, 2013 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Localizador_Politico_Venezuela.svg
However it was interdicted by Venezuela in Guyanan waters; this was stupid. The fact that it remains impounded by Venezuela compounds the stupidity.
I think that the Venezuelan Marine have seen the boundary conflicts between the Falklands and Argentina - and between Gibraltar and Spain - and decided that a bit of 'externality' can take the heat off their own internal problems.
Pity for them that they chose to engage with a multinational foreign enterprise rather than a fishing boat; bad choice.
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