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Falklands oil company purchases dock facility and readies for 2015 drilling
Noble Energy the US oil company involved in hydrocarbons exploration in the Falkland Islands has already purchased a temporary dock facility, is looking for a rig to start exploratory drilling in early 2015 and next month begins additional 3D seismic surveying. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat? No no no no!!! Malvinero1 or what ever his name was assured me that the UK was finished! Think also assured us all that there was no point in drilling! But but but.......and that Argentines threats had scared all the oil companies away.
Oct 19th, 2013 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats one funky looking Survey ship by the way.
1 Conor J
Oct 19th, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't wait!!! TMBOA will be writing a letter to the UN ( a strongly worded letter!! ) saying that those “Pirates” in the Falkland Islands are stealing Argentine natural resources.
Then “laughing boy” Timerman will do the usual rounds, urging all SA countries to stick together in the face of non latin American countries..... blah, blah, blah.........
Let the Circus begin!!!!!!!!
I know what you mean about the survey ship though, it DOES look pretty cool........... Man, I have got to get me one of those!!!
@2
Oct 19th, 2013 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh I can just see it now at the UN.
UN Ambassador:
“And now a statement from the Argentine ambassador regarding the Falklands-Malvinas dispute, Ambassador?”
Timmerman:
(Clears throat) GIVE ME THE MALVINAS!!!!! ENGLISH, BRITISH EVIL PIRATES I MUST HAVE THE PRECIOUS!!!! GIVE ME THAT OILS!!!!!!!!!
UN Ambassador:
And how does the British Government respond to that Statement?
UK Ambassador:
ZZZZZZ.........
UN Ambassador:
AMBASSADOR??
UK Ambassador:
(Waking up suddenly from boredom).....Don't cry for me Argentine!.....Wait.......What?
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2013/10/18/uns-fourth-committee-consider-the-falklands-no-action-pending/
Oct 19th, 2013 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the world turns - paying no heed to Argentina it would seem :-)
@4. could you please translate that blog into english? or at least write it in a way that might help readers understand what it is actually trying to SAY?
Oct 20th, 2013 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0it is plagued with generalities, inaccuracies and vague comments which makes it incomprehensible to everyone but the author.
first of, the south shetland islands are considered to be part of antartica, so at this point no country has sovereignty or jurisdiction over it. claims to these islands fall under the antartic sector claim of each nations that has one.
can you provide any evidence that argentina has tried to “distance the falklands” from the decolonisation process? this is where your article becomes very confusing because one of argentina's strong suits in the malvinas question is precisely the fact that it is listed as a non-self governing territory, thus subject to be discussed by the committee. so your conclusion that argentina is “trying to convince the world that the Falklands should not actually be considered a case for decolonization.” is rediculous, because that is what argentina has been trying to do for as long as the UN and this committee exist! if it weren't considered for decolonisation, it would imply that it is not a colony or, if you like, a non-self governing territory.
and contrary to what you state, the malvinas are indeed a special case (so are others) and yes the UN considers them to be a special case as per resolution #3257 drafter on June 20th 2013 by the Special Committee on Decolonisation:
...“the General Assembly would reiterate that the way to end that “special and particular colonial situation” was the peaceful and negotiated settlement of the sovereignty dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom.”
here is the link:
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2013/gacol3257.doc.htm
Great link.
Oct 20th, 2013 - 04:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0However the UN has never said the self-determination doesn't apply to the Falkland Islands.
Never!
A sovereignty dispute doesn't trump the UN Charter.
Ever!
This has gone pretty much unnoticed in the argentine press, they are dealing with a collection of train wrecks at the moment, the economy, out if control inflation and depleted reserves, a failed and sick leader planning her exit which enables her to avoid arrest and take as much argentine cash with her, oh and yes, they are actually dealing with yet another actual train wreck.
Oct 20th, 2013 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile the Falklands are welcoming cruise liners and steaming ahead with their oil industry.
The Argentine policy of outright aggression on the Falklands over the past few years has failed spectacularly.
@5 I realise that you are probably a “foreigner” and therefore, by definition, ignorant, stupid and uneducated.
Oct 20th, 2013 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, the South Shetland Islands are indeed part of Antarctica. However, there is the small matter of prior claim. An international legal principle that could, in appropriate circumstances, lead to war. The UK claimed the Islands in 1908. There were no objections. They were then claimed by Chile in 1940 and argieland in 1943. The latter two claims being based on Hitler's assurance that the British Empire and Commonwealth would lose the Second World War and that nearby cronies could grab what they liked. What a pity for argieland and Chile that the UK didn't lose. Still with warships, combat aircraft and the most capable and professional ground forces in the world. Is argieland and Chile building bomb shelters? Five or six hundred feet underground?
I'm afraid I have a bit of a problem with your next paragraph. At what point does a “non self-governing territory” become a “colony”. In point of FACT, it is doubtful whether the “decolonisation committe” or the UN has any jurisdiction. Unless specifically authorised, I cannot see how a voluntary organisation can exercise jurisdiction over a non-member. Therefore, legally, the UN has no jurisdiction over any British Overseas Territory. See, circumstances change. Many years ago the current BOTs might indeed have been colonies. They aren't any more. So the UN and its joke, biased “committee” can be told to bugger off and mind its own business.
What the UN “considers” is irrelevant! I believe a start has been made. The Chief Minister of Gibraltar has publicly revealed the bullying, cowardly, illegal and illegitimate actions of spain. The Falkland Islands Government reveals similar actions by argies.
I'm not sure I understand your reference to “malvinas”. Courteous people and states refer to territories by the name used by the inhabitants and owners. Didn't argieland lose 649 people losing?
What a remarkable ship, the PGS Titan! I haven´t heard of anything like that before. Online info can be found here: http://www.pgs.com/titan
Oct 20th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a mix of a ship and a sci-fi boat.
Looks like it's finally going serious, I mean oil and gas exploitation. Somebody should tell CFK...
@6. “However the UN has never said the self-determination doesn't apply to the Falkland Islands.
Oct 20th, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never!
A sovereignty dispute doesn't trump the UN Charter.
Ever!”
Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples
Adopted by the UN General Assembly Resolution 1514 (XV), 14 December 1960
6. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
capiche?
Troneas
Oct 20th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Territorial Integrity:
This subject has been argued on here, countless times.
Falklands were claimed by the British long before the UP revolted from Spain. Long before there was an Argentina.
Falkland Islands are seperated from the SA continent by 400 km of water.
The British administered permanent settlement began in 1833, at a time when the United Provinces were only surrounding the River Plate, 1000 miles away.
“Argentina” did not become a state until the 1850's and no Argentinians or Argentinian lands were anywhere near the British Falkland Islands until after the 1880's famous “Genocide of the Desert Indians”, by which time there had been a continuously populated Falklands community for 50 years.
In fact, by forcefully invading Patagonia, Argentina was arguably trespassing on the Territorial Integrity of Chile, next door.
Sorry, your Territorial Integrity theory is full of shit.
Capiche?
@10 Troneas
Oct 20th, 2013 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your best trump card in this dispute is the 'Migrating Birds theorem of 'Territorial Integrity'. Mmm, looks like KFC must have suffered another (earlier) bump on the head when she came out with this piece of comedy at the C24.
How come Noble Energy aren't on Tinmanns naughty list?
10. I didn't know you could see the Falklands from The Rg coastline?
Oct 20th, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder why it took my cruise ship so long to get there?
With that foolish argument I guess the USA should take CUBA, most of the Caribbean, Bermuda, Canada, Mexico...my my where does one stop?
idiot.
@10 You have clearly allowed yourself to become indoctrinated by propaganda from Argentinian politicians. Perhaps this might help you come to terms with the fact that you have been lied to.
Oct 20th, 2013 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0International Courts of Justice Advisory Opinion - 21st June 1971
'Furthermore, the subsequent development of International Law in regards to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them.'
Para 52
www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/53/5595.pdf
That's the legal view. There are countless UN Resolutions stating the same - try UN Resolution 46/181 of 19th December 1991 or 67/134 of 14th January 13 which states, 'to continue to examine the political, economic solutions in the non-self-governing territories and to recommend as appropriate, to the UN General Assembly the most suitable steps to be taken to enable the 'populations' of those territories to exercise their right to self-determination...'
Now here's something you might find interesting because it completely destroys Argentina's sovereignty claims and exposes the 'Great Malvinas Lie' -
Legal Issues in the Western Sahara Dispute - the Principle of Self-determination - Committee on the UN 2012 - New York City Bar Association
Para 58
'To summarize, according to the ICJ a state's right under International Law to acquire a non-self-governing territory against the will of the people under the theory of 'historical ties' is severely circumscribed. When applied to a non-self-governing territory the requirements are strict; it requires continuous, important and formal ties of a political and economic nature in the few instances where it has successfully defeated the right of the inhabitants to self-determination.'
http://www2.nycbar.org/pdf/report/uploads/20072264-WesternSaharaDispute--SelfDeterminationMoroccosLegalClaims.pdf
Ever wondered why Argentina hasn't taken its pathetically weak case to the ICJ?
13 Yankee
Oct 20th, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously, “Troneas” is one of the “2nd Tier Trolls” or an indoctrinated 'free-lancer'.
All the other trolls, including TIT Toby have moved on from attempting that one.
Who do you think “Cabeza” is? He/she doesn't seem to be fully in the Cristina camp. Neither does “Caspar”, for that matter.
They are very patriotic, if not Nationalistic, though.
Could this be a sign that the Peronists are starting to distance themselves from the Kirchnerists? :-)
A-Void and Think are a bit quiet too. Is it yet another “National Celebration of Defeat” holiday in Argentina, or a week of mourning for Priebke?
Dany Berger, rabid Kirchnerist, seems to get called in while they are away. Even BK has reappeared from retirement to shore up the “K” defences.
Surprisingly, we've heard little criticism of the Opposition recently. In fact, it's taken a different tone - now the Troll discussions centre around which opponent to CFK would be preferred, should they win.
Cue the' Damage Control' Trolls...
@ 15 I noticed that most of the trolls vanished the minute the botox queen got sick in the head, funny that.
Oct 20th, 2013 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think there is anything wrong with any contributor being patriotic. Surely we want to hear their views and debate with them?
Oct 20th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The more extreme, rude and, in some cases, insane add colour but no credibility.
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Oct 20th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0=and contrary to what you state, the malvinas are indeed a special case (so are others) and yes the UN considers them to be a special case as per resolution #3257 drafter on June 20th 2013 by the Special Committee on Decolonisation:
Oct 20th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troneas,
#3257 is a press release indication positions of the Special Committee and various countries/people, not a UNGA Resolution.
The SC’s been drafting resolutions stating the Falklands are a ‘special and particular case’ for many years. No resolutions stating it's such has ever even been voted on by the UNGA, let alone approved. The UNGA has not voted on any SC draft resolution re the FI since 1988
This press release says the ‘SC approved a draft resolution by which the UNGA would reiterate that the way to end the “special and particular colonial situation”……’
2 things about this statement
1) ‘WOULD reiterate’ implies a conditional: would reiterate, if there were a UNGA vote on the draft resolution and it was approved with such wording. There has been no such vote
2)The UNGA can’t ‘reiterate’ it’s a ‘special and particular colonial situation’ because they’ve never stated it’s such in the first place.
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=The UK claimed the Islands in 1908.
Conqueror,
The UK’s claims are
South Georgia 1775, South Sandwich 1775,
Antarctic sector:
South Shetlands 1819, South Orkneys 1821, Graham Land 1829
I presume by 1908 you’re referring to the 1908 Letter Patent re FI Dependencies. That Letter Patent made no new territorial claims at all, just provisions for their government.
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=6. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
Troneas,
'Any attempt aimed...’. means 'Any attempt that is aimed' ie it has present and future meaning, not past. UNGA resolutions are non retroactive and non binding. The Charter’s binding.
capiche?
5 Troneas
Oct 20th, 2013 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is in fact a prior claim on the South Shetland islands dating back nearly 200 years.
The South Shetland Islands were discovered by the English sea captain William Smith on February 18th 1819. Captain Smith later planted the British flag and took formal possession of the islands in the name of King George III when he re-visited the islands in October the same year. .He first named the islands New South Britain but they were later changed to the South Shetland Islands. A few months later Captain Smith, accompanied by Captain Edward Bransfield RN landed on the islands and conducted a survey of them.
On January 16th 1820 he landed on the largest island and named it King George island. After further explorations towards Graham land he returned again to the South Shetlands islands, landing on the most easterly of the islands which he again took formal possession of in the name of the King and named it Clarence island, the name of the Duke of Clarence, Brother of the King.
The Antartic Treaty has suspended all terrotorial claims on Antartica, which Argentina signed on 23rd June 1961.
It is hardly in the spirit of the Treaty to talk about “Argentine Antartica” when under the same internation law which Argentine signed in 1961 no territorial claim is recognised. Odd therefore that under Argentine law official maps of Argentinaa have to include “Argentine Antarctica” and the claim is officially a part of the Argentine province of Tierra del Fuego and Governed by the provincial capital Ushuaia .
Troneas
Oct 20th, 2013 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After being trounced on here I'm sure you probably won't return.
”Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples
Adopted by the UN General Assembly Resolution 1514 (XV), 14 December 1960
6. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
capiche?“
I seem to ”capiche“ better than you considering point 2 - 4 points higher states:
'All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status, and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.'
The next argument ignoramuses like you then counter with is that Falkland Islanders are not a people. And therefore this isn't a applicable. I'll help you out here as well; ”peoples” has never been defined nor limited in international law.
Therefore there is nothing special about the Falkland Islands 'situation' according to the UN other than a neighbouring state that descends periodically into quasi-fascism claims it based on a 1940s fabrication.
While the UN and even the UK RECOGNISE a sovereignty dispute, the UN still recognises UK sovereignty and asks two things. One, that the UK should attempt to resolve that dispute and two, that the UK should decolonise the Falklands. It has never stated that the Islands are or should be part of Argentina.
You're an amateur at this mate.
19 dab14763 “capiche?”
Oct 20th, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. David B.
Your history...and Italian are as bad as my English.
This is like. Whack the Rat, someone please conk Marcos.
Oct 20th, 2013 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0=It is hardly in the spirit of the Treaty to talk about “Argentine Antartica” when under the same internation law which Argentine signed in 1961 no territorial claim is recognised. Odd therefore that under Argentine law official maps of Argentinaa have to include “Argentine Antarctica” and the claim is officially a part of the Argentine province of Tierra del Fuego and Governed by the provincial capital Ushuaia .
Oct 21st, 2013 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0rupertbrooks0,
Argentina has even put in an extended continental shelf claim for Antarctica. The UK hasn't.
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=19 dab14763 “capiche?”
Mr. David B.
Your history...
Prove me wrong Marcos.
and Italian are as bad as my English.
As bad as Troneas' Italian.
Mr. David B.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Worse then, you repeat the wrong history and wrong spelling of someone else.
17ElaineB
Oct 21st, 2013 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't think there is anything wrong with any contributor being patriotic. Surely we want to hear their views and debate with them?
The more extreme, rude and, in some cases, insane add colour but no credibility.”
I agree with you totally, Elaine.
It was only an observation that Cabeza is patriotic, not a criticism. I would expect no less of anyone.
Being a Nationalist, though, calls into question the credibility of their statements, facts, or arguements.
Like you say, though,
“The more extreme, rude and, in some cases, insane add colour but no credibility.”
In the case of Cabeza, we can only go by what he says on here, or doesn't say.
Please Cabeza, tell us clearly whether you support CFK or which Opposition candidate?
Otherwise, your actions and your vitriol speak for you.
Of course, if you are like the “A-Voices”, “Dany Bergers”, “Thinks”, and other paid Trolls on here, you won't say.
Not wonder MercoP shows only the front picture of this ugly ship :-)))
Oct 21st, 2013 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://subseaworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/PGS-Ramform-Titan-Takes-Seismic-Acquisition-to-a-New-Level.jpg
I hope there is not relation to this company..
http://subseaworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/PGS-Ramform-Titan-Takes-Seismic-Acquisition-to-a-New-Level.jpg
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Oct 21st, 2013 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0@26 Yes, nationalism is a curse. It is aggressive and extreme, as opposed to benign patriotism.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 028cabezadura
Oct 21st, 2013 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0”26) Disgusting manners and an arrogant little cunt you are. I should really punch you in the face...Just who the hell do you are??? Serioulsy could not give a rats f_ck what you think of me”
Yeah, sorry you feel that way.
If you're not a K supporter why wouldn't you tell us, but if you are, it seems like you don't have the courage of your convictions.
30) I have made my views very clear here... I have had no problem whatsoever giving them for good faith and honest people.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0But branding and labelling people before hand and then demanding explanations as to why I’m here, why do I write what I do, who do I vote, and as if not you conclude I’m paid to write is just inadmissible, very very rude and arrogant... Do I really need to remind you I owe you nothing?? I dont think so. Yours is just UNBELIAVABLE BEHAVIOUR
31Cabeza
Oct 21st, 2013 - 04:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Avoidance - like every other troll on here.
Do you owe anyone here any explanation or accounting for your actions, opinions, or perspectives ?
No, but don't expect anyone to believe a word you say or attach any credibility to your arguments or opinions.
You'll find that the Brits and Yanks on here are straight-forward about their backgrounds and political allegiances.
The Argentine Trolls are not, and not one of them has ever said one bad word about CFK, Timerman, or your government, while their disastrous economic policies are causing rampant inflation, and your diplomacy makes you global laughing stocks.
The Trolls are in full support. It's pretty obvious they are toeing the government line, verbatim to the press releases.
It didn't take long for CabezaDura's true colours to shine through.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's an old English saying (Cliche?) from Oscar Wilde I think, which goes
Oct 21st, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“A Patriot is someone who loves their Country whilst a Nationalist is someone who hates everyone elses.”
In Britain in general and England in particular there is no real nationalistic tradition. Patriotism tends to be non-political and is at equally at home in all major political parties. It revolves around love of the English countryside and our medieval towns and villages. A reverance for our Parliament and the long continuity of our ancient institutions. A love of Shakespere and Dickens and our poets. It may also include the BBC, the national Health Service and the Royal Family. Plus our traditions of liberty and tolerance. The socialist George Orwell was familiar with and wrote with admiration and fondness upon this English way.
The Nationalistic fervour of some countries, with their “Viva Patria” and worship of the flag is pretty scary to my mind, and pretty much alien as well.
The nationalism injected into the Argentine body politic by General Peron is still alive and has yet to be played out.
Who in their right minds would EVER want to get into any kind of a business deal with ANY Arjuntinian..?.. Sealord's failed hoki venture to cost $60m | Stuff.co.nzwww.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/.../Sealords-failed-hoki-venture-to-cost-60...SimilarJul 22, 2013 - Maori co-owned deep-sea fishing company Sealord is walking away from its disastrous hoki venture in Argentina with an estimated $60 million ...Argentina Hoki Fish - Alibaba.com..........Yes sir those “much loved”...lol...Argies just cant get it right...Screw up everything they get involved in and then look around to place the blame where they think appropriate....Could'nt organize an orgy in a whore house if you ask me...!!
Oct 21st, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@35 El capitano:
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hello....How are you?.....I see your posts are filling out a bit........
How old are you now capitano?
Joined a UK trawler in 1959? (as a Danish immigrant) Deffinately in your seventies, yet with this odd intrest in posting about the Falkland Islands........A Dane in his seventies.......???? (and did you say you live in Canada?)
LOl @ 36 Escoses Dildo...She just does'nt get it,her unhealthy obsession with me and my background really is reason for concern...Then again I find her insane comments to be some what amuseing...She almost has it right..BUT I have no idea whatever where she has come up with the “Dane” bit...other than Grimsby is indeed a Danish town and I grew up with Grimsby/Danish friends...Ohh well...we'll let her continue with her mixed up rants,makes for a good laugh....lol...!!
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't think E. D. has any obsession with you, unhealthy or otherwise.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why was post 37 in third person?
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