Saudi Arabia's Gulf Arab allies and Egypt have applauded its decision to reject a UN Security Council seat in protest at the world body's failure to act on Syria, whose leader is backed by Russia and Shi'ite Iran. Read full article
Can’t the Jordanians allow the Saudi Kingdom and the other gulf states passing to overthrow Assad from Damascus? After all if the UNSC is so useless in stopping the killings and the civil war in Syria I doubt it can stop a grand Middle Eastern war.
Its quite a good deal for the Americans a stalemate between Iran and Saudi Arabia for perpetuity locked in Syrian proxy war, so they don’t have to fight them in Afghanistan any longer
@1 Look up. The source of all shit. Did you notice that the root of the problem is your pals, the Chinese and the Russians. Do you think Saudi is getting an unexpurgated lesson in realpolitik? What exactly has Saudi Arabia done for the world? Oh yes, it got involved in the Gulf War. Anybody notice that most of the fighting was done by the British and Americans? To free an Arab country! And yes, the Saudis did cough up lots of money. Mostly obtained from the West! Saudi is also very good at producing and aiding jihadist terrorists. Pretty poor on human rights, especially those of women. As CabezaDura says, why can't Saudi get stuck in? Armed forces with more than 200,000 active personnel. An annual budget of US$48.2 billion. Chicken? Can't decide whose side to be on? Trying to play both sides?
Nothing. The House of Saud and Saudi Arabia's territorial integrity are dependent on both U.S. intelligence and their military. The Saudi royal family is worth 1.2trillion U.S.$. The rest of the Saudi population is not nearly as well off. The royal family have effectively being bribing dissident ( some might say terrorist ) groups for a while now, as well as providing intelligence to the U.S.
The decadence that some of the royal family engage in is well know and is reviled by the conservative population they rule. They know that what has happened in Tunisia, Egypt and Syria could happen in their country - which is why when the same thing nearly happened in Bahrain, they intervened.
Saudi Arabia, with it's current rulers, has neither the international muscle, nor the moral stature, to forsake it's relationship with America.
Wonder if King Abdullah will ever make it clear exactly where Saudi Arabia stands. Should we start with its human rights record? Pretty abysmal. The disadvantaged position of women, religious discrimination, lack of religious freedom and activities of the religious police. Of course, Saudi is not a party to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Instead, it signed up to the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam. But everything in the CDHRI is subject to Shari'ah law and the supremacy of Islam. The CDHRI is not seen, by the UN, as a valid alternative to the UDHR. At best, it is considered supplementary. No wonder that, after 9/11, Saudi was accused of supporting terrorism and tolerating a jihadist culture. bin Laden and 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi. And if Saudi thinks this is the way to affect the actions of the Security Council or gain reform, it is much mistaken. If it took its seat, would it be able to persuade China and/or Russia to stop vetoing everything? Or does it think the United States should go into Syria and sort everything out by itself? And, privately, King Abdullah is constantly urging the U.S. to attack Iran and cut off the head of the snake. Saudi apparently has over 4 million individuals fit for military service. But only 650,000 active personnel. (Iran 545,000). So why doesn't the King beef up his armed forces and do the job himself? It's not as though he's short of money! And yes, Arab countries have been marginalised. Who marginalised them? Arab countries. The standard definition of the Arab world is composed of 22 countries and territories. That's an eighth of the UN membership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world
And which are a problem? Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Palestine (?), Somalia, Syria, Yemen. EIGHT of them! One can be solved easily. Palestine. Move the palestinians to where they were supposed to relocate. Jordan. Perhaps Saudi could provide armed peacekeepers so they stay there.
One can be solved easily. Palestine. Move the “palestinians” to where they were supposed to relocate. Jordan.
what the fuck?, Conqueror i really wish you'd stop with this Zionist bullcrap.
UN charter article 1
2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
I think it's pretty early to say the UN members who voted for the creation of Israel in 1948 broke the United nations charter, by not taking into account the Palestinians right to self-determination. I'd call that a war crime.
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Oct 21st, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can’t the Jordanians allow the Saudi Kingdom and the other gulf states passing to overthrow Assad from Damascus? After all if the UNSC is so useless in stopping the killings and the civil war in Syria I doubt it can stop a grand Middle Eastern war.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its quite a good deal for the Americans a stalemate between Iran and Saudi Arabia for perpetuity locked in Syrian proxy war, so they don’t have to fight them in Afghanistan any longer
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Oct 21st, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Look up. The source of all shit. Did you notice that the root of the problem is your pals, the Chinese and the Russians. Do you think Saudi is getting an unexpurgated lesson in realpolitik? What exactly has Saudi Arabia done for the world? Oh yes, it got involved in the Gulf War. Anybody notice that most of the fighting was done by the British and Americans? To free an Arab country! And yes, the Saudis did cough up lots of money. Mostly obtained from the West! Saudi is also very good at producing and aiding jihadist terrorists. Pretty poor on human rights, especially those of women. As CabezaDura says, why can't Saudi get stuck in? Armed forces with more than 200,000 active personnel. An annual budget of US$48.2 billion. Chicken? Can't decide whose side to be on? Trying to play both sides?
Oct 21st, 2013 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Saudi Arabia, an unconditional ally of the US since the thirties. What happens now?
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ Gonzo22
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0To the relationship with the U.S.?
Nothing. The House of Saud and Saudi Arabia's territorial integrity are dependent on both U.S. intelligence and their military. The Saudi royal family is worth 1.2trillion U.S.$. The rest of the Saudi population is not nearly as well off. The royal family have effectively being bribing dissident ( some might say terrorist ) groups for a while now, as well as providing intelligence to the U.S.
The decadence that some of the royal family engage in is well know and is reviled by the conservative population they rule. They know that what has happened in Tunisia, Egypt and Syria could happen in their country - which is why when the same thing nearly happened in Bahrain, they intervened.
Saudi Arabia, with it's current rulers, has neither the international muscle, nor the moral stature, to forsake it's relationship with America.
Wonder if King Abdullah will ever make it clear exactly where Saudi Arabia stands. Should we start with its human rights record? Pretty abysmal. The disadvantaged position of women, religious discrimination, lack of religious freedom and activities of the religious police. Of course, Saudi is not a party to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Instead, it signed up to the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam. But everything in the CDHRI is subject to Shari'ah law and the supremacy of Islam. The CDHRI is not seen, by the UN, as a valid alternative to the UDHR. At best, it is considered supplementary. No wonder that, after 9/11, Saudi was accused of supporting terrorism and tolerating a jihadist culture. bin Laden and 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi. And if Saudi thinks this is the way to affect the actions of the Security Council or gain reform, it is much mistaken. If it took its seat, would it be able to persuade China and/or Russia to stop vetoing everything? Or does it think the United States should go into Syria and sort everything out by itself? And, privately, King Abdullah is constantly urging the U.S. to attack Iran and cut off the head of the snake. Saudi apparently has over 4 million individuals fit for military service. But only 650,000 active personnel. (Iran 545,000). So why doesn't the King beef up his armed forces and do the job himself? It's not as though he's short of money! And yes, Arab countries have been marginalised. Who marginalised them? Arab countries. The standard definition of the Arab world is composed of 22 countries and territories. That's an eighth of the UN membership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And which are a problem? Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Palestine (?), Somalia, Syria, Yemen. EIGHT of them! One can be solved easily. Palestine. Move the palestinians to where they were supposed to relocate. Jordan. Perhaps Saudi could provide armed peacekeepers so they stay there.
One can be solved easily. Palestine. Move the “palestinians” to where they were supposed to relocate. Jordan.
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what the fuck?, Conqueror i really wish you'd stop with this Zionist bullcrap.
UN charter article 1
2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
I think it's pretty early to say the UN members who voted for the creation of Israel in 1948 broke the United nations charter, by not taking into account the Palestinians right to self-determination. I'd call that a war crime.
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