MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
EU imposes punitive duties on biodiesel from Argentina alleging dumping
European Union member states agreed to impose punitive duties on imports of biodiesel from Argentina and Indonesia, which are accused of selling it into the bloc at unfairly low prices, according to diplomats. Argentina has anticipated it will take the case to the World Trade Organization. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesEuropeans are the biggest bunch of losers, uncompetitive fools in the history of of the Cenozoic Era.
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Americans are marginally more competitive but awfully dimmer.
Then they wonder why their countries have gone off a colllective cliff.
They have to unite to safeguard themselves from mighty Argentina and its evil exports. hahahaha.
The northerners are just hapless, helpless, and hopless.
Hopless!
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Damn it, I can't believe “northerners” are discriminating against Argentina AND one legged people.
Very well known tactic of the argument-less, when they resort to spell checking.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not that I expected more from an Australian.
3 Nostril
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Europeans are the biggest bunch of losers, uncompetitive fools in the history of of the Cenozoic Era.
Americans are marginally more competitive but awfully dimmer.
Then they wonder why their countries have gone off a colllective cliff.
They have to unite to safeguard themselves from mighty Argentina and its evil exports. hahahaha.
The northerners are just hapless, helpless, and hopless.”
Do you call random nonsense announcements, an “argument”?
:-)
Alliteration - the refuge of a verbose Fool who has nothing coherent to say, but likes to hear the sound of his own speech.
;-D
Fool with capital F? I am honored.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0One's Fool is another man's noetic eminence.
“Fool”, a title, as in a ridiculous performer for a court.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ach, you Euros still with your absolutist monarchies and serfdoms.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Get into the program and move ahead to the 18th century.
typical.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina tries to export grain, lemons, beef, bio-fuel, etc to the US and EU and they either shamefully subsidise their local inefficient industries or they come up with this crap.
Then they go crying to the WTO and they publish this in their biased newspapers such as the Economist:
Argentina is using protectionist measures!!
Argentina is using protectionist measures!!
Its clear as a dog in heat: the Euros and North Ams are so pissed off at Argentina because it has the balls to play the same game back at them.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since no one else dares, they find Argentina's use of their OWN tactics an unnaceptable affront to their shriveled pride.
But, TTT, you don't want Argentina to trade with anyone remember?
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yup, the EU is protectionist. Always has been and always will be. Argentina is just not capable of playing with the big boys.
Toby, Isn't protectionism a major part of Mercantilism? You should be supporting this measure.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0These last few days of really terrible news for Argentina makes me very happy.
I am so glad that all of my predictions are coming to fruition.
Next stop hyperinflation and mass unemployment
Then I'll be really exicited
Ever since the crisis of 2008 I’ve believed it was necessary for Argentina to diversify its agro industrial complex from exclusively soy bean. Everebody was shouting out loud for long term policies and a national agro plan and a foot off, the government never cared really and didn’t do a thing about it. And now all the eggs are in one basket while Uruguay, New Zealand, Australia, Colombia and Paraguay,etc are conquering beef, fruit, dairy, markets in Asia and Europe… The economy is now dependent on one single produce in the Kingdom of Saudigentina
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Nostrils
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bought myself down to your level. I was being facetious. Weren't you?
Oh God don't tell me you were being serious.
Tobias,
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0As ElaineB stated, you have always stated that Argentina doesn't need anybody. That Argentina is completely self sufficient (snigger).
Now when you have got your wish you complain? Methinks that you reap what you sow.
Argentina's economy is already teetering on the edge of oblivion. Tell me, can you use all of this bio-fuel in Argentina? Will it power your country? Will it heat your buildings? Will it provide fuel for your motor vehicles?
You'd better hope that the answer is yes, because your country hasn't much left in the way of US dollars (not that you need them when you've got the Peso, surely?), and other countries won't accept your worthless money in exchange for goods.
So now that you have your wish, you should be happy, surely? Go out and celebrate with your fellow socialists about how you've finally 'beaten' the world, and how Argentina can now be a paradise for it's people. An agricultural paradise only, I'm afraid, set back towards the 19th century (where most of you live in your minds, anyway), where people have to scrap a living together off the land, and there are no luxury food stuffs, let alone luxury items.
Well done on creating the United Socialist Soviet Republic of Argentina. A failed never was country that had such potential - potential that was squandered by fools and thieves alike.
Holding Deadbeat Argentina Accountable
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2013/10/21/supreme-court-moves-us-closer-to-holding-deadbeat-argentina-accountable/
@1 Hahahahahaha. Argieland on another loser. In 2005, the European Union produced 85% of the world's biodiesel. It is therefore in a perfect position to prove that argieland is “dumping”. I wonder why argieland is complaining. Isn't the EU saying its prices are too low? But is this a case of artificially low prices until various EU firms have gone out of business, then hiking the prices?
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8 & 9 I wonder if you two understand how funny (peculiar as well as amusing) you are. As Elaine says, TiT, you want to be isolated. Remember? And for the rest? Well we now know that virtually every word that comes out of argieland is a lie. I wonder how long it will be before someone abandons “political correctness” and diplomatese, stands up in various international forums and bluntly states that argieland lies 99% of the time. And that there are doubts over the other 1%. Everybody already knows it, but when will it actually be said?
Anglotino (#2)
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'hopless!' TTT #1
'Damn it, I can't believe northerners are discriminating against ... one legged people.'
Priceless :-)
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Why do you think that the EU are responding Argentina's biodiesel dumping?
Could it be because Argentina have consistently stymied the trade bloc deal?
My, what a darstardly response!
I like how Rgs are squealing and squirming calling the EU protectionist against “all foreigners” like they do with the USA ( 8 Troneas) and at the same time Brazil ( or some other foreign nation) will probably make up the shortfall.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rgs think they are clever but in the end they are just stupid street thugs that are now getting payback for all the crap they've pulled over the last decade.
I've said for a long time once the system turns against them there is going to be trouble.
and it is here
and
it makes me happy.
@18 Trouble with argies is that they “think” that the EU and USA are as stupid as they are. And they are undoubtedly stupid. What other group could look at what its “government” is doing to it, compare it to elsewhere, dismiss anything that doesn't fit with their preconceived notions and re-elect the same bunch of tossers? Any “normal” electorate would ensure that not a single candidate espousing the “government” approach would get into power again in the foreseeable future. As an example, in the UK, “normal” and intelligent people know that the Labour Party cannot be allowed into power again for at least 50 years. After its many attempts, it has been seen that the Labour Party wrecks the country and then others have to put it back together. The “joke” message left by the last Labour “government” for their successors was “There's no money left”. The peronists will be able to say the same if the people of argieland finally get some brains and evict them. One of the problems with argies is “viveza criolla”. Not only because they practice it, but because they think everyone else does! The concepts of “honesty” and “integrity” are, literally, foreign to them. Who knows whether they will ever find their way out. After the place has collapsed, as it will do soon, will they rebuild as “same again”? Or will they realise that Peron and all his successors have been total tossers? I'm betting that they'll go for “same again”. Because the majority are lemmings. They don't, they can't, THINK. Italians and Spaniards were, and are, the same. Perhaps, if they choose their time correctly, Chile and Paraguay could take the whole place over. They could certainly do so militarily. They would enjoy the thanks of the world. And a high percentage of argies could be imprisoned anyway.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina reaps the results of its compound stupidity.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) base your economy on low value agricultural commodity = dumb.
2) disincentivize production and investment with currency controls = dumber.
3) invite retaliatory action from every major economy in the world = Argie dumb.
TMBOA cries at the UN about the Falklands while at the same time trying to skew the EU market for diesel and they wonder why nobody gives a damn about them?
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They played the game knowing the USA EU IMF sanctions take a long long time to come to fruition. Countries that must live by the rule of law and Orgs that must abide by their charter are no match for a dictatorship that make rules or ignores law as their needs are suited.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Rgs know this and use it to their advantage while running out the clock hoping a solution materializes. In the past they were lucky.
I think their luck has run out.
Nobody cares to help them any longer and they've burned too many bridges.
I love watching from afar.
I may even have to go next year if the riots are too bad.
yanqui
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your country is a loan away from default and you have the nerves to talk about Argentine economy. “Double standard” couldn't cover it, lack of the same fits perfectly...
@ 23 Stevie
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but they will get that loan, what is Argentina going to do when its reserves of foreign currency run out?
Pugol
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In January, the US debt roof will be raised again. Wanna bet?
That's not paying.
That's kicking the ball instead of picking it up.
That's a mañana mentality with major impact.
You really think they can keep it up forever?
And you know what? Britiain is #2 on the line, heading same direction...
@25 Stevie
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed, longer term not sustainable.
But they have longer to sort it out than Argentina does its problems.
Without a massive change in the economic situation Argentina will run out of money, what, this time next year mas o menus.
I take no pleasure in the thought of ordinary Argentinians suffering hardship through no fault of their own, indeed I have good friends in Argentina, but yankeeboy’s predictions about the progression of this are proving right.
Thing are now improving in the UK, how long before you can say the same about Argentina.
But you’re more concerned with colonising wind swept islands in the S. Atlantic, like that is going to solve things for you.
@25 Stevie, Just how much does your “pal” already owe? USD$90 billion? Plus interest. and who is trying to “kick the debt down the line”? Lying, thieving argies is who. But you keep going. I want to see half the world declare war on your faggoty “friend”. And then on you. In case you're wondering, war IS still an option! How come there aren't more Uruguayans on here? Is it just because they think you're an arsehole?
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 026
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well Pugol, this time they've raised the roof for another 3 months.
That's the shortest time limit I ever remember reading about.
And the farce is becoming obvious.
How many years do you think the rating agencies can uphold the lie?
How long do you think USA, or every other pay-by-raising-debt country, can keep that GDP up for the numbers not to hit red?
Or maybe you believe constant increase in production is a viable way...
And what happens to the dollar if people just stop believing? How will the stock Exchanges react?
As they respond to speculation, I mean...
Stevie, Why aren't you worried about Japan? They're in much worse shape than the USA is in terms of Debt to GDP ratio.
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are too simple minded to understand economics
Go back to turning your wrench and let the grown up talk.
@Pugol-H
Oct 24th, 2013 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Thing are now improving in the UK, how long before you can say the same about Argentina.”
Yeah in your and CaMoron dreams.
Britain is so well that every day close a new business but house prices goes up, Stagflation perhaps?
OOps
Ineos says petrochemical plant will close
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24631342
@Conqueror
To declare war you need a proper army first, thing that you cannot afford anymore.
Remember? NO army, no carries, no planes, no economy, no hope, no industries, etc.
@yankeeboy
USAMEX is unpredictable, political unstable and with the biggest debt in the world.
Japan is creditor of USAMEX like China.
I don’t know really what can be the solution to USAMEX, may be to split the country in several administrative regions or give some of the states to Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, etc. as they speak same language, have similar phenotype, mentality, etc.
Of course that will depend if those countries want to accept them...
Dany #30
Oct 24th, 2013 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0House prices go up around London, but not so in the rest of the UK. Who is buying? Predominantly rich foreigners from places like Argentina. Why? To get their money somewhere safe. Why London? Ask the Russian oligarchs.
'Ineos says petrochemical plant will close'
The Grangemouth complex is in the same precinct where the Labour Ineos workers attempted to hijack the Party. They have been, so far, protected from the financial disaster left by the Labour Party but, when outgoings exceed income by £10million per month, Ineos addresses both ends of the equation. Outgoings is largely salary and pensions - big salaries and a 'final salary' pensions scheme. The rest of the UK has 'bitten the bullet' and moderated salaries, staffing levels and the big pensions; it is time for this huge, important, and unions-dominated business to 'smell the coffee' and 'take the medicine'.
It hurts, I know, because the rest of us have been through it; but just being a member of a union in a strategically important industry does not mean the workers are 'ring-fenced'.
Scotland needs Ineos/Grangemouth for when Scotland goes private.
31 GeoffWard2
Oct 24th, 2013 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Ineos union workers are the last of a breed that can trace their ancestry back to the once mighty shipyards of Glasgow and the NE of England.
Stupid, moronic people with an overblown sense of worth just like the Peronistas.
I don't think that turkeys vote for Christmas and the Scots won't vote for “independence” under the idiot salmon face.
Quick Cameron...great political opportunity to jump in and save the day....short term bailout or take control of Grangemouth....get the Scots on side...run it till after the 2014 vote...then shut it...
Oct 24th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even at a loss it would be worth it....
@ 30 DanyBerger
Oct 24th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Grangemouth, that’s is the SNP’s problem, the inevitable result of 50+ years of socialism, not realising that the world (not to mention pension schemes) has changed around them.
Remember “Thatcherism” never really took off in Scotland.
@ 31 GeoffWard2
The house market right across southern England has changed very significantly in the last 4 months.
Number of sales, mortgages given ect have jumped up, and prices are going up accordingly.
If you have the cash, or can borrow at a reasonable rate, buy now.
@30
Oct 24th, 2013 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Remember? NO army”,
Has the British Army disbanded?
“no carries,”
What about HMS Illustrious and HMS Ocean?
“no planes”
With no planes, does that mean there are no aircraft on the Falkland Islands?
If so, why do you keep saying we are militarising the South Atlantic?
“ no economy”,
It's a lot better than Argentina's chey.
“ no hope,”
Not even a bit?
“no industries, etc.”
How can we be making two huge aircraft carriers, Astute class submarines, most of the world's jet airliner engines, and fighter aircraft if we have no industries?
You haven't thought this through, chey.
@35 Pete Bog
Oct 25th, 2013 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although we have kebabs aplenty.
@Pugol-H
Oct 26th, 2013 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Although we have kebabs aplenty.”
And debt I should say...
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