Former president Lula da Silva described the street protests that have shaken Brazil as something 'good and healthy' and said demands reveal that the Brazilian people have discovered that it is possible to aspire for more, although when as a union leader he marched I didn't destroy public or private property. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDear Lula, the Brasilian people are not marching 'for more',
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they are marching AGAINST the corruptions that marked YOUR term of office, Lula da Silva.
They were and are marching AGAINST you and yours.
Don't try to re-write recent history and make white into black and black into white.
WE KNOW YOU!
The polls of 80% of government aproval of Lula are so fake it is laughble. Pretty much half of the country hates so much and he never won an ellection with significant majority. The country hates you, Lula, the other half woke up!
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Time for Dilma to move away from the Grand Corruptor then?
Oct 23rd, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But she will not and neither will she sack the Liar Mantega.
Always remember that little gremlin (he does, doen't he) on a magazine cover with his back to the camera, and his statement I don't need to speak any Spanish, or English, because I have character
Oct 25th, 2013 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I remember thinking how arrogant, and conceited that statement was coming from a head of state.
Hahaha
Oct 25th, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why are you lot so upset?
Hahahaha
Corruption is no laughing matter, Stevie.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fight it wherever you find it.
6 GeoffWard2
Oct 25th, 2013 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0But that is the problem Geoff, corruption is everywhere in SA, that is why Stevie thinks it's OK for Pepe to screw up Pluna because nobody had paid the bribe.
All you yahoos write as if corruption is a new idea developed by Lula. That's right; fall into the pit dug by Globo/Folha, et al. Thesevoices of the elite want everyone to think that development o a strong middle class is bad for Brasil. If people are marching against the corruption of Lula and his allies, teel me this: Ehy is the popularity of Dilma still high enough to get her rre-elected? And why is the violence in the demonstrations conducted at night by masked persons unknown, while the legitimate protestors don't see, afraid to show their faces. Opposition to Brasil's recent years of progress in a fairer society will do what it takes to move the country back to the repressive years, indeed centuries of exploitation by the few at the expense of the many. Follow the money. I promise you it will not lead you to Lula, but to people much more sinister in their inability to relate to their fellow human beings in a fair and honest and JUST manner.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lula significantly increased corruption in Brazil. He worsened already weak institutions. And for Dilma, she might be a puppet, but she is much more political than bigot Lula that is why she can keep some popularity (and I still think her popularity is fake) between the uneducated, but NOT with the middle class.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fbear #8
Oct 25th, 2013 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not a Yahoo, not an 'elite',
but yes I have been a marcher (without a mask), a Globo/Veja reader - for which I make no apologies.
I have been in Brasil through the Lula and the Dilma years.
I am well read about the political history of Brasil since, during and before the last military period.
I saw what Lula did at first hand, followed the money, and disbelieved him when he said Well, I didn't know all that was going on right under my nose (loose translation).
The fall-out of Lula's mensalao (Wiki: Mensalao) continues to blight Brasil to this day.
Maybe you lot should start fighting corruption in your own country before pointing fingers.
Oct 25th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You lot can't take a dump without having a device counting the hairs on your buttocks...
#10 And you think things were better with Cardoso? You think Serra would BE better? You think Marina Silva would be? You think BARBOSA is a man of the people?
Oct 26th, 2013 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am not an advocate of corruption, but it goes all the way back to the plunderers from Portugal and will continue with the offshore accounts of the elite. I al mooking not so much at the corruption of Lula but the results for the most people from whatever his administration did that benefitted the most people. I see the hands of the elite controlled media in much of the controversy going on right now. The demonstrations seem to become most violent after dark, when the most of the truly concerned people have gone home. I have no doubt that in their relentless pursuit of reversing any gains made by the other brasileiros, the ones who have struggled to much for little or nothing is the motivated by the desire of their elite owners to maintain the status quo. IF you know your brasilian history, then I am also sure that you understand that the dictatorship coule not have been instituted or been allowed to exist without its alliegiance to the elite and the tacit approval given it. Were THEY hurt during that time? I seriously doubt it.
Which is my country at the moment, Stevie?
Oct 26th, 2013 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil? England? Belize?
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Fbear, hi.
Yes, better with Cardoso, the brains behind all the economic innovations that Lula continued subsequently .. then corruption got REALLY bad.
Serra? No. The embarrassingly bad public campaign at the last presidential election was just too much to bear ... really bad. Too old.
Silva? Good enought as Environment, but not good enough to stop illegal deforestations. Presidential material ... not really.
Barbosa, a 'man of the people'? Of course not; but a man to protect your freedoms - probably.
Were we hurt during the military rule? Not me - I was in England then. But you will remember me saying that my partner - like Caetano - was 'asked to leave' Brasil for being 'anti-government'.
Which was how we met in the first place, and first got me interested in South American political history.
Thus we see that corruption is in the brasileiro DNA to a grand degree and hardly compounded by Lula other than in the minds of thd class of people he apparently hurt. Not unlike the situation in the USA today with a party ostensibly of the people and another definitely against them.
Oct 26th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Corruption is in South American DNA, not just Brasil. And it is not restricted to the genes gained with colonisation, though much infection comes with contact.
Oct 26th, 2013 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Corruption hardly compounded by Lula, Fbear? -
You are - perhaps purposefully - blinding yourself to truths that are so obvious to those with eyes to see.
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