The unemployment rate in the 17-nation Euro-zone remained at a record high of 12.2% in September as the bloc’s recent recovery failed to generate new jobs, official data shows. The number rose by 60,000 to 19.45 million, while the jobless rate for those aged under 25 edged up to 24.1% from 24% in August, according to Eurostat, the European Union’s statistics agency. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI thought Europe was rich. But is very poor. The worst thing a person's life is to be poor in old age.
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Basileiro
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well the Eurozone allowed in countries whose economies weren't ready for it: Spain, Portugal, Greece and Ireland.
Since the economies of the above mentioned countries have basically imploded, it has put a heavy burden on the other countries of the Eurozone.
Thankfully the UK didn't join the Euro, so isn't affected by their reliance on the Euro.
@ 2 LEPRecon
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And trade with Europe still strong? Why Britain has a deficit of 130 billion dollars in 2011? What did you buy? What do you sell?
@3 and what is your deficit 172 .5 BILLION in 2012 what did you buy and what did you sell?
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 4
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you born stupid, or acquired this defect with age?
The poor part of the Eurozone includes, as LEPRecon writes in #2, 4 countries which were unable to distinguish between richness and debt. In the union are also a number of emerging economy countries. They drag the average down.
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But it *is* true, that many in Europe live in abject poverty. I know several families who own only two cars for four people; other families have only 2 or 3 TVs and no week-end cottage.
The Eurozone is 17 countries with 332 million inhabitants and a GDP of 9,500,000,000,000 Euro = 12.35 million million US$.
The European Union is 28 countries with 508 million inhabitants and a GDP of 12,900,000,000,000 Euro = 16.6 million million US$.
Europe is 50 countries with 740 million inhabitants and a GDP of 17,300,000,000,000 Euro = 22.5 million million US$.
@ 6
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the sensible answer.
Brasileiro, there are huge differences between the rich and poor countries in Europe.
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GDP (PIB - produto interno bruto) per capita:
Luxembourg $ 81,100
Norway ....... $ 55,900
Austria ....... $ 43,100
UK ............. $ 37,500
and in the other end
Romania ... $ 13,000
Ukraine .... $ 7,500
Kyrgyzstan $ 2,400
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html?
TWIMC
Nov 02nd, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every bloody winter, the same depressing (and easily avoidable) story of rich Britain lace curtains misery…..:
24,000 people in the UK could end up dying needlessly because of the cold winter ahead…:
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/latest-news/over-3-million-older-people-worried-about-winter-heating/
”Charity fears that energy price hike could kill up to 20 Scottish pensioners a day who cannot afford to heat their homes”…:
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/latest-news/over-3-million-older-people-worried-about-winter-heating/
“They can wear a jumper” says David Cameron. …:
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/latest-news/over-3-million-older-people-worried-about-winter-heating/
Think- Of course we forget- no elderly folks ever die in winter in Argentina and you never ever have power cuts and fuel shortages in winter either.
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0T hink you and the newspaper looking for a silly headline will find that more old people die in winter than in summer in ALL countries that have winters and summers - its a natural human fact - caused by a lot of things of which colder weather is but one.
(10) Islander1
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say…:
”Think - Of course we forget- no elderly folks ever die in winter in Argentina….”
I say…:
No, we do NOT forget that every winter elderly folks die in Argentina...
NEITHER do we ignore the fact that this winter over-mortality could be prevented by a better economy and better care…
- Big difference being that Argentina is a relatively poor Country whilst the UK is a relatively rich Country.
- Big difference being that the current Argentinean administration has raised the purchasing power of our pensions by ~400% during the past 10 years…..
- Big difference being that the current leader of the British administration stands tall in front of the British pensioners lecturing them to ”Wear a Jumper” if they freeze….
You say further…:
“Think you and the newspaper looking for a silly headline will find that more old people die in winter than in summer in ALL countries that have winters and summers....”
I say…:
If you cared to read my above post, you would notice that my first link is NOT a to a Newspaper looking for ”Silly Headlines” but to the very Organisation that represents the interests of some 10 million British pensioners….
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/latest-news/over-3-million-older-people-worried-about-winter-heating/
And; as they CLEARLY state…:
”This winter, 24,000 older people may not survive the cold weather – that’s 200 deaths a day THAT COULD BE PREVENTED.”
“200 deaths a day THAT COULD BE PREVENTED.”
“COULD BE PREVENTED.”
Do you get my drift?
At least we have an organisation called Age Uk.
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What have you got?
In Argentina that is, not your current bolt hole!
If a person in the UK is struggling to pay for energy ( at least we have it 24/7 ) then they need to talk to the energy companies, not a problem. If they don't then that is their problem .We in the UK will not let one person die because they are poor, it is up to them to access the proper channels. Anyway when the FALKLAND oil starts flowing who knows.
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes and when the LNG shipments start arriving in the UK things are bound to get better, whoops that's not us, it's them!
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lmao.
when the FALKLAND oil starts flowing
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0been hearing this for how many years now. maybe sometime in 2024.
Well, if we are lucky the 82 YO (at least) Lunatic of Chew Butt might be on the “expired” list this year, but somehow I doubt it.
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chewy, for all his commie ways has far more money than he needs wherever that is, and frankly WTF cares!
Keep up the lies and obfuscation you old twat, it keeps YOU happy at least.
TWIMC
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I couldn't help noticing the callous comment from Turnip at (13), who completely disregards the strong sense of pride of millions of pensioned Britons, who would rather sit out the chill in thermals than edging the thermostat up another extortionate notch…… or, even worse, going through the ultimate humiliation of picking the phone and asking a perfect stranger for help....
Think- stand by my claim- that organisation carefully uses the wordmay!! says it it all - seeking a headline. I would agree thought that it is a sad reality - no doubt in Arg as well - that to many old folk who end up with younger family miles away and unaware of their daily circumstances are to proud to ask for a little bit of help.
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(18) Islander1
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
Think- stand by my claim- that organisation carefully uses the word “may”!! says it it all - seeking a headline.
I say...:
Wooow.... You are sooo Kelper-wise......
An interest organization carefully choosing their words...
An interest organization carefully tending its own polytunnel...
How very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,very, very, strange.
How many dead pensioners do you wish to detract from their figures?
10% .......... ? That still leaves us with 21,600 corpses.
20%..... ? That still leaves us with 19,200 corpses.
30%.... ? That still leaves us with 16,800 corpses.
40%... ? That still leaves us with 14,400 corpses.
50%.. ? That still leaves us with 12,000 corpses.
60%. ? That still leaves us with 9,600 corpses.
70% ? That still leaves us with 7,200 corpses.
Every bloody single winter...
@ 17
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usual, you have bought out the old obfuscation card: pathetic.
The pensioners in the UK who have paid their taxes and other charges throughout their life are ENTITLED to all the help they can get from the state THEY PAID FOR IT. The problem, insomuch that a problem exists, does lie with the in the mistaken belief that they are getting something for nothing. Those people who have been ill for a large part of their life also get looked after in the same way.
AND, to my regret, those idle bastards who have lived all their life on the dole, smoking and drinking away their benefits ALSO get looked after. Not really fair on the rest of us who have paid, is it?
Every year the government advertises on TV what is available for those people who cannot afford the electricity, gas and water services. If people do not take up WHAT IS RIGHTLY THEIRS then that is their decision. Don’t forget that I am a pensioned Briton who also paid for these services but can afford not to use them.
The only “people” who frankly I have nothing but contempt for are TMBOA, the laughably entitled “ministers” and the Lunatic of Chew Butt and to make that crystal clear without any equivocation that means YOU.
Think- every winter in any country a proportianate number of eldery people die- of a variety of causes - diseases,illness, and basically old age when the body runs out of g0-power - all are often affected by the general misery of winter for old folks- cold and damp outside, short days etc etc. Very very few die of 100% pure cold because they could not afford heating!
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the odd few whose families and many many miles away and have nobody nearby to keep and eye on them and these same then occasionally also fall through and escape the Social welfare ”net.
Nothing strange at all - just reality and facts.
(21) Islander1
Nov 03rd, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't believe for a second that anybody in Britain Dies of 100% pure cold because they can not afford heating.....
What I know for a fact is that there is a great amount of needless over-mortality in Britain because of the high energy prices.
Every single degree a home is heated below 20 Celsius reduces the winter survival rate of an average +70 years old person with ~2-3%....
It's like feeding your border collies with too much mutton fat.
Every 5% increase in fat shortens their life with about one year...
Nothing strange at all - just reality and facts.
3 Brasileiro
Nov 04th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK’s main exports include, oil and oil products, electrical generation equipment, motor cars and other transport goods, media products (books, TV shows, films, recorded music) food , alcoholic beverages, financial and professional services (insurance, accountancy banking) , computer programming, advertising services, satellite equipment, chemicals, medical equipment, education, jet engines, computers and IT, manufactured goods, engineering products, unsorted diamonds, steel and specialist steel products, ceramics, plastic and plastic products, paints, nuclear technology, telecommunications equipment, art products, tobacco products
The UK main imports include, oil and oil products, fuel, lubricants, food, clothing, footwear, cars and transport equipment machinery, computers, rail rolling stock, tobacco products, wine, tea, coffee, consumer goods (Tv’s computers audio equipment), furniture, timber, wood pulp, paper products, agricultural machinery, coal, gas, iron ores, metals, rubber, manufactured goods.
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