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Germany/Brazil initiative at the UN to end excessive electronic surveillance

Sunday, November 3rd 2013 - 03:14 UTC
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Germany and Brazil circulated a draft resolution to a U.N. General Assembly committee on Friday that calls for an end to excessive electronic surveillance, data collection and other gross invasions of privacy. The draft resolution does not name any specific countries, although U.N. diplomats said it was clearly aimed at the United States, which has been embarrassed by revelations of a massive international surveillance program from a former US contractor. Read full article

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  • LEPRecon

    Firsty a UN General Assembly resolution is not legally binding - talk about pretending to your voting public to be doing something.

    Secondly, I'm sure the Chinese, Russians, North Koreans, Iranians, Israelis, and dozens of other countries will be running to vote for this resolution - and even if they did - it's not legally binding so they would just carry on as normal.

    Perhaps its time that Ms Merkel and Ms Rousseff turned their attention to their own security services, which appear to have been doing a p!ss poor job in the 1st place.

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    nt know about Brazil but the German lady is a two faced Hipocrit as Germany has also been caught doing a lot of and getting other friends like GCHQ in UK to do a lot os eavesropping for it on millions of people!
    Grow up ladies - Everyone probabaly does it!

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Stupid not to.

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    What better way to rein in the stupid excesses of the NSA than to give it world-wide hearing at the UN General Assembly with a non-binding (but permanently on the record) vote.

    If your (presidential) NSA remit is explicitly to protect against 'terrorism', then all incursions into businesses, companies and corporations - espionage for commercial advantage only - need to be explicitly beyond the pale.

    What goes for the US sets the benchmark for constraints in other countries.

    We could reintroduce the Concept Of Ethics to the USA - where it is unknown today, and also to the rest of the world's business community; ethical behaviour based on a level playing field that the USA has not tilted towards the foreign goal.

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    All this anger is on the surface. Every major country does it.

    I've known for years that you dont make international business calls from France because of the French spying services listen in.

    I'd br disappointed if the NSA/GCHQ were'nt doing it!

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    I like both of these ladies.
    When will the world realize that being anti-something doesn't get you anywhere in the long-term though. Take action FOR privacy.

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Just imaging a world without spies , no spying , no intelligence , no information gathering , no sharing , a world were we know not what our neighbour is saying , doing , planning , or conspiring,

    What an interesting world that would be,
    .

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Oops Brazil.... probably not “news” you were hoping for others to know right now:

    http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2013/11/04/spying-on-allies-and-punishing-leakers-brazilian-edition/#axzz2jiHfLhc4

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Just imagine there're no countries - it isn't hard to do.
    Nothing to kill or die for and no religion too.
    Imagine all the people living life in peace...
    Imagine no possessions! I wonder if you can.
    No need for greed or hunger; a brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all the world...

    Briton, you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
    I hope someday you'll join us and the world will live as one

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Imagine there's no colonies .... it isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for ....and no sponging too.
    Imagine all the people ...living independently...

    Imagine there's no territories ....I wonder if you can.
    No British claim of minerals…a brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people …..sharing all the world……ou ooo

    You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
    I hope the Brits will join me and the world will live as one

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Yes future independence for all British Overseas Territories.

    Here's to A_Voice voicing hope for a future independent Commonwealth of Falkland Islands and State of Gibraltar!

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Briton, A_Voice, and all those doin' the Imagine thing.

    So many people are looking for a different way of the world.
    Coming from so many different points of view, people across the world wish things to be different.

    There have been very few people in our contemporary world who come 'out of the blue' and show a different way of doin things.
    Who would have thought that it would have come from that most trivial of stand-up comedians .... Russell Brand.
    That 'Big Bear' of the media interview process - the best since David Frost - Jeremy Paxman, severely under-researched and under-estimated the 'trivial' Mr. Brand.
    One of the greatest mould-breaking, paradigm shifting interviews of my life.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGxFJ5nL9gg

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    GeoffWard2
    You may be a dreamer,
    But my mum used to say I had a weird and vivid imagination.

    I think one day this planet will either unit into 3 factions,
    1, a federation of nations dedicated to peace defence protection and exploration into space to further our technology, [something like that]
    2, these few who wish to be isolationist and wish to be left alone, but still trade in peace,
    3, these few failed dictatorships, failures and failed states who still wish to live like wild cave men.
    [just a thought]

    But can you imaging earthling going into space and literally fighting over every speck of dust,
    Claiming sovereignty over every asteroid, planet, or star system,
    Still,
    Imaging what the aliens will do, or inhabitants of other planets—will they just sit their and let these hungry greedy selfish corrupt people from earth destroy their beautiful peaceful galaxy,

    Or just send us all back to earth with our tails between our legs,

    Nah, we will one day unit in peace as one federation, or perish back to the stone age..

    ?????????
    ..

    .

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Yup, Brit, your mum was right.
    ;-)

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ha ha , thanks

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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