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Brazil admits to its own spying 'ten years ago and to protect the national interest'

Tuesday, November 5th 2013 - 08:02 UTC
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Brazil which hotly denounced US surveillance of its leaders, itself spied on US officials as well as on Russia, Iran and Iraq a decade ago, the Folha de Sao Paulo newspaper reported on Monday. Read full article


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  • LEPRecon

    A decade ago? Yeah right. So for the past 10 years Brazils security services have been doing what exactly?

    I'll tell you what they haven't been doing. They haven't been protecting Brazil against foreign countries spying on them, the government has probably had them spying on opposition members instead.

    Here comes the hypocrisy.

    All countries spy on each other. Some are just better at it, and put more resources into it than others.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Math

    I am very surprised by this, but it's more like counter-spying.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    All countries spy. They always have and they always will.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I wonder if Dilma received any bruises......

    .....when she fell off her high horse?

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    Your societies are depraved and debauched. Spying, pathetic.

    Argentina never spies. We tell eveyone everything in their FACE. That shows more respect than these silly games.

    Funny you people don't realize this fact, that Argentina shows you more diginty of treatment even if we are telling you that you are horrible countries and horrible people, because at least we are honest an open with you.

    Something your societies obviously do not value at all.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Casper


    ”...dignity of treatment...honest an ( sic ) open...”

    I guess Moreno didn't get the memo.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    The Truth PaTroll (#5)
    'Argentina never spies. ...'

    Argentina's official spying services (Wiki):

    • President's Office
    • Secretariat of Intelligence (SI)
    • National Intelligence School (ENI) Directorate of Judicial Surveillance (DOJ)
    • Federal Counternarcotics Service (SEFECONAR)
    • Argentine National Gendarmerie Intelligence (SIGN)
    • Ministry of Defense
    • National Directorate of Strategic Military Intelligence (DNIEM)
    • Ministry of Justice
    • Federal Penitentiary Service Intelligence Airport Security Police Intelligence
    • Ministry of Interior
    • National Directorate of Criminal Intelligence (DNIC)
    Argentine Federal Police Intelligence
    • Buenos Aires Police Intelligence (SIPBA)
    • Argentine Naval Prefecture Intelligence (SIPN)
    • Ministry of Economy
    • Financial Intelligence Unit (UIF)
    • Intelligence Department of the Joint General Staff of the Armed Forces (J-2)
    • Military Intelligence Collection Center (CRIM)
    • Army Intelligence Service (SIE)
    • Naval Intelligence Service (SIN)
    • Air Force Intelligence Service (SIFA)

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    Argentina has not spied on anyone since 1988. FACT.

    I say 1988 for a very specific reasons. Since none of you are argentines, or have ever even been to the country, you'll have to search it up.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Precisely, that is why Argentina is lagging behind, an incidently you talk bollocks, of course Argentina is spying. Prove they are not , you idiot.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    That you know about!

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    TTT #8

    So all the spy agencies listed in #7 have been sittin on their butts since 1988.
    Nice work if you can get it!

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    just googled but can not find any information that Argentina has not spied since 1988. I wonder why, could it be because spying is in itself secret.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    @5 TPT

    “Argentina never spies. We tell everyone everything in their FACE. That shows more respect than these silly games. ”

    I'm not understanding this statement. Spying is “gathering” information. Speaking frankly, and upfront (telling it to their face), is “disseminating” information.

    The first receives information, the second delivers information.

    Can you explain the relation you are using between these two activities?

    If there is no immediate relation between gathering info about other countries and, disseminating information to other countries,

    I don't see how you can use a faulty comparision, to demonstrate that speaking straight shows more respect than the silly game of intelligience gathering.

    Can you explain?

    Countries and people compete, if your competitor knows a lot about you, you had better pay attention to him too or he WILL eat you for breakfast. Even where we work there are people, some of your co-workers, that consider you competition and they pay attention to what you do and try to hurt you to help themselves.

    This is human behavior. It is not evil caucasian gringos that put this whole vicious cycle in to place.

    East Germany had a communist, no competition, ideology and just about “everybody” was on the Stasi payroll, to spy on “everybody else”. If the DDR did it, a hyper-competitive, vicious capitalist place like the U.S. would do it even more, wouldn't they?

    Are you sure Argentinians don't snoop? Can you name some other countries that are like Argentina and don't spy?

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Brazil has now admitted it spied on people,

    So now we wait,
    Tomorrow Germany will say it spied on people,
    by the weekend this will turn into a stampede, and they will all be queuing up to tell the world they have been spying on each other,
    confessions confessions lol.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Toby, TiT! You pretend you are in Mendoza, which you are not, and, you say we have never been? We know more about RGland than the lot of you, because we have all been there lots of times. I cycled from BA to Ushaia. You dont know about your Villas, the rubbish piles, bent police, Cartoneros, and you keep posting the most ridiculous things. Are you in an Asylum somewhere?

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Titti boi tobi needs to be ostracized and ignored. He talks like a dickhead and has no clue about the people in Argentina and everything he says about the government the government does the complete opposite. You are the perfect idiot Brassie....I mean tobi.

    #15 He is probably in Europe like all the toads that argue for all the commie countries in SA. I think when it comes down to it, there are only two maybe three of them here posting from Europe.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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