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Uruguay confirms a “several speeds” Mercosur in trade talks with European Union

Thursday, November 21st 2013 - 18:22 UTC
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For Mercosur it is absolutely crucial that the trade and cooperation agreement with the European Union becomes effective said Uruguayan Vice-president Danilo Astori who indicated that Brazil and Uruguay are advancing the agreement at a faster speed than Argentina, which is involved in “a more protectionist focus”. Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    More than one speed, eh?

    Is that like Uruguay at government level? The speeds are of course slow and excruciatingly slow.

    Better than The Dark Country however, that's stuck in reverse.

    Nov 21st, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Don't think so. According to the European Commission, unelected bureaucrats with no authority that can't be negated, an agreement with mercosur is all or none. Let's make it none. I really believe we should help TiT be isolated. Let's be realistic. Argies voted for the current, criminal “government”. Argies support criminal behaviour. Invasion, threats, criminality, corruption, illegality, depravity. And who in Europe wants latam goods? Crap, contaminated, sub-standard. This is important. Latam MUST be excluded from Europe. It will take Europe back at least 100 years. Perhaps more.

    Nov 21st, 2013 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    The sooner we can put a match to the dead letter of the mercosur trade agreement the better. Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay should negotiate a deal on thier own or jointly.

    Nov 21st, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Haha is it just me or does Astori want Mercosur to go all Pacific Alliance suddenly?

    If you can't beat 'em, then imitate them!

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    More proof of how irrelevant Europe and the UK are. Argentina actually being the one who snubs them on a free trade agreement.

    700 billion GDP vs 15 trillion and the 700 billion says “not worth it”.

    How humiliating.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Who in the hell has a US$700 billion GDP?

    Because it isn't Argentina.

    Anyway, I suppose you are right that it is humiliating for Argentina. After all, their allies and supposedly closest partners are literally falling overthemselves to gain the benefits. What Argentina doesn't gain, someone else will - it just doesn't disappear.

    What is lost to farmers in Argentina is gained by farmers in Uruguay.
    What is lost by manufacturers in Argentina is gained by manufacturers in Brazil.
    What is lost to the service section in Argentina is gained by the service sector in Uruguay.

    Snub away Argentina. There is nothing produced in Argentina that can't be gotten elsewhere. The EU won't even feel the difference, but farmers in Uruguay, manufacturers in Brazil and businesses in Uruguay will feel it.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    And wtf does Australia produce that anyone else can't get elsewhere?

    That's right.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    @7 T T Patroll
    Answer
    Crap Cricketers?

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    7 TIT

    Australia has fiscal responsibility and solvency not found in Argentina, Toby.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @8

    Checked the latest score from the Ashes lately? Lol.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    @10 Heisenbergcontext (#)
    The Gabba hardly counts,like playing on tarmac.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Nostrils

    The fact that anything Australia produces can be bought elsewhere and yet we still manage to export A$27 billions in a month is actually a compliment.

    The fact that Argentina exports about US$7 billion in the same period shows that not everything Australia sells can be sourced in Argentina.

    Thanks for the compliment.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    7 The Truth PaTroll

    There are some things, that unless Iveco have changed to another source and that is the electronics “computers” for the peripherals on the CANBUS of the Stralis range of trucks.

    And bloody expensive they were too, but no doubt that's down to Iveco.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @11 toxictaxitrader2

    The W.A.C.A. is even more deadly. It's also Mitch's home ground. Fun times!

    p.s. Like your user i.d. I have no idea what it means but it is very cool nonetheless.

    Nov 22nd, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #5 & #6

    You seem to think this is a 'zero sum game'. It is not.

    The advantages to all are able to be enhanced. Economic synergism.

    Some will gain more enhancement than others - largely those more speedy and efficient and that can make the most agreements across the many sectors will gain 'most' benefit.
    For instance, ALL might have the same basic zero-tariff agreement but, if nobody wants to trade with a particular country, the benefits and enhancements will migrate elsewhere ... like .. Brasil :-)

    Nov 23rd, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 15 GeoffWard2
    ”if nobody wants to trade with a particular country, the benefits and enhancements will migrate elsewhere ... like .. Brasil :-)”

    But not if Mantega still has the Ministry of Finance and keeps lying to the international investment community it won't.

    Nov 23rd, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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