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Orange to remind the world the International day for the elimination of violence against women
Today Monday November 25 is an opportunity for each person to recommit to ending the harm being committed against one out of three women, senior United Nations officials said marking the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis organisation and their day of orange recognises that women are physically the weaker sex, and that they can be - and are - readily harmed by men. All power to their cause.
Nov 26th, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But we should not forget the men that are abused in so many ways by their female partner. Much abuse is not physical even though many men are too resistant to go to court because of the use of sharp and pointy - or big and heavy - kitchen instruments. But, having said that,
a woman's tongue is, arguably, the most abusive instrument known to man.
I can never understand why women want societies and laws of the XXI Century but want at the same time and go for men of the mentality of the Stone Age... Good men are always left to pick up the mess and get to be abused in silence by women in many forms and ways
Nov 26th, 2013 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a lot easier to recover when you are the victim of a woman's sharp tongue
Nov 26th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0than it is from a broken jaw courtesy of a man who is stronger, taller, heavier, much more powerful and fueled by both testosterone and rage. At least that's my interpretation of what I have witnessed.
Girls who are raised by men who know how to be tough and gentle and trustworthy at the appropriate times are much more likely to choose partners who will respect them. A man who has no self-respect cannot respect others and cannot teach others how to respect themselves.
It's all about instincts - if a girl cannot trust her own instincts she will never be truly safe from predators as an adult. I used to work in a rehab and saw these patterns repeat themselves again and again.
3) Heisenbergcontext
Nov 26th, 2013 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sure if only the farthers are to blame, girls first and formost have choices and freedom... Just today in La Nacion one of the most read newspapers of Argentina has a related womens magazine making a apolgy to infidelity.
http://www.revistaohlala.com/1640294-que-hago-estoy-a-punto-de-meterle-los-cuernos
All this free for all mentality in my view ends up breeding distrust and misoginy towards women, and men will react in different ways towards it. The basic contradiction I find is in order to be succesful with women and have your girl stay faithful, Holywood and mainstreem society and media teaches you to be a gentleman but psicology and reality teaches you to be “alfa male” in order to do so
I can understand women want more freedom, fine I agree, but I also think its time society should burdern women with the same moral weight men have to carry out and endure. And girls should certanly assume responsabily for their desicions and pickings. They should take care of what they breed too.
@4 CabezaDura
Nov 27th, 2013 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for that link - I'm not sure if my translator did the article justice. It's definitely one of those subjects you want to be crystal clear about BEFORE you get into a relationship with someone.
Of course you are right in your first para - the primary responsibility for a woman's safety belongs to them, and their mothers are equally responsible with their fathers for teaching them how to determine what is safe and what isn't.
The sad reality though, is that being raised in a violent environment can change your whole perception of reality. Children raised in that way start to lie to themselves because acknowledging the truth ( that they are not safe and no-one is going to rescue them ) is intolerable.
Girls raised like that are much more likely to allow themselves to be seduced by the first lothario they encounter - only to discover they have jumped from the frying pan into the fire. Boys raised in that atmosphere are more likely to emulate the abusive parent because they have figured out that having power is a much better deal than being a victim. JMO.
p.s. Good to see you back. You always have interesting, original things to say.
A few weeks ago I talked to a distant cousin I hadn’t seen for many years and its vox populi she is beaten by her husbund for many years and has a completaly isolated. She isn’t allowed to work, study nor have friends nor contantacts with her own family. She already has a kid with him... So her parents had maneged to get her out of the house she lives in with him and her inlaws after getting a order from the judge that decreed some time had to be spent with her own family.
Nov 27th, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I had heard that she was very much obssesed with him still. She clearly has some issues However I maneged to have a couple of minutes with her alone and I tried to talk some sence into her. I didnt go into being a her hadkerchief, I went straight to the point and let her know of my true opinions whith vigor. What I found was quite surprising for me, she started complaining against him and his parents when she could no longer justify herself nor lie to herself by saying “but I love him”... She outburst and said I was right, that she didnt want to return to the house of her inlaws and that she is scared of ending up alone, that she needs a “man” (she maybe thinks some cowboy is going to rescue her and her son from the shithole she walked into instead of herself getting out) she also said she had ambitions of going to work far away in some well known tourist resort in Patagonia. Unfortunetely I we were interrupted by her family so I could not make any more progress... I dont know what intentions she really has, but she definetely had me woundering as to what state of mind she really is in and how much brainwasheness and denial she has for it seems to me she clearly know what she has to do.
Have you encountered cases like this, what does your expiriance tell you ???
@6 CD
Nov 27th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, I've seen many relationships just like the one you described. God I could tell some stories! The things some people ( men as well as women ) will put up rather than be left alone is astounding. I've known people whose childhoods were so repulsive that prison was the best place they'd ever been in - it was normal to them and they instantly understood what the rules were. Just like being at home.
It sounds to me that your approach was very effective - maybe she just needed to hear that from someone. The courage to change has to come from them though. You can rescue someone from an awful environment and unless they're willing to confront the reasons WHY they were in it in the first place they'll simply go back or find someone else to fill the hole they left.
Does any of that make sense?
Yes it does.... I never really knew this girl very well, I know that as a child she had some rivalry with her own father, what is a wonder because she had always a very strong and rebelious character, not at all the sumissive types... So it is surprising she ended up like this. That is what I dont really get, but im aware there is nothing I can do and there is pieces of the story I must not know in detail.
Nov 27th, 2013 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I live in a Housing Trust block of units here in Oz ( Adelaide ) - which means many of my neighbors are recently arrived refugees, unemployed or people on Disability Support Pensions i.e. they suffer from long-term mental illness or have substance abuse problems and will likely never work again.
Nov 27th, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This creates many opportunities for conflict among people who have little ability to resolve them peacefully. Which means lots of fights. There was one couple where the male partner would periodically just follow her around and harass her - his way of letting her know he could control her whenever he wanted. It was like she was on a leash. Any signs of independence and he would just yank it.
One day she'd had enough and sought refuge in my friends place ( James ). This is the crazy part: the abusive guy ( Graham ) had tried to rape my friend 30 years ago. James had been dating Graham's younger sister and was staying in a spare bedroom. Graham had just gotten out of jail, gone to the pub, gotten drunk and having discovered a teenage boy in his bedroom had tried to make James perform oral sex on him. James said no, Graham punched him in the face and James fled into the streets naked except for a blanket. When the cops found him he was too humiliated to say what happened.
30 yrs later when James moved into these units he recognized Graham instantly. But Graham didn't recognize James who by know had changed his name, shaved his head and was much bigger and more powerful than his teenage self. Plus he'd had kick-boxing lessons.
Graham came looking for his girl ( Christie ) and had taken some pills ( Rohypnol or serepax I'd guess ) so he was fearless. He broke through James door whereupon James dragged him into the car park and proceeded to beat the crap out of him. Only then did he ask him to cast his mind back 30yrs ago. It was truly karmic retribution.
As for Christie? She went back to Graham. Felt sorry for him.
True story.
9) Well you can never trust women with so few self respect like this Christie or selfish women who dont respect you for that matter.
Nov 27th, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 CD
Nov 28th, 2013 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0She had no spirit left - you're right, you can't trust people with no self-respect.
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