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Washington pledged support for Japan in dispute with China over islands
The United States pledged support for ally Japan in a growing dispute with China over islands in the East China Sea and senior US administration officials accused Beijing of behavior that had unsettled its neighbors. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMiscalculation of the Chinese has caused them a humilliation, they cant do anything about it....They are lucky they dont have a free press at home that lets the Chinese folk know that the B-52 ignore the new Chinese airspace jurisdiction.
Nov 28th, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take note of this paragraph Brits.....that's what I call a Special Relationship...
Nov 28th, 2013 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Washington does not take a position on the sovereignty of the islands but recognizes that Tokyo has administrative control over them and the United States is therefore bound to defend Japan in the event of an armed conflict.”
Substitute Tokyo for London and Britain for Japan
That's much more than the “Help” the Brits got with the Falklands...
Today S. Korean & Japanese fighter aircraft flew across the zone, and surprise surprise, with no prior notification to China.
Nov 28th, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China has been shown the Americans have “got Japans back” on this one. And as they cannot challenge the Americans in any military way, some loss of face is inevitable for them.
Which they won’t like, and won’t stop them trying anything they think they can get away with in the future, over this and the other territories they now claim. Any of which could still easily and quickly escalate.
Of all the now disputed territories, these islands are the closest to China and the ones over which they have the strongest (such as it is) claim. They need a result here to have much hope for any of the others.
Somewhat like Argentina, without some sort of a result in the S. Atlantic, they’re fu*ked with their Antarctic claim. They have got to get the British out of the equation, anyway they can, too have any chance at all.
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Nov 28th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have a slight point,
but in this case, it would mean Argentina putting a no fly zone over the Falkland's,
thus the USA would almost certainly fly over it,
even just to prove that she could ..?
@ 2 A_Voice
Nov 28th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Washington does not take a position on the sovereignty of the islands but recognizes that Britain has administrative control over them”
That much is the same.
The difference is firstly, not much chance of the Falklands becoming an armed conflict, second the Brits don’t exactly need much help from the Americans if it did.
The same cannot be said of Japan and the Senkaku Islands, can it!!
It’ called a “proportional response”
Derrrr.
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Nov 28th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....Doh
How slow are you?
I was obviously referring to the “Help” given by the Yanks in the Falklands conflict.....they being allies and having a Special Relationship should not have...“Played Neutral”....
God .....do I have to spell everything out to the stupid????
“Washington does not take a position on the sovereignty of the Falkland islands but recognizes that London (UK) has administrative control over them and the United States is therefore bound to defend Britain in the event of an armed conflict.”
.....Falklands.....do you see it now.....Special Relationship....Falklands under attack....USA big Nato Ally of UK....do you see the irony yet.....FOOL
@7 A_Voice
Nov 29th, 2013 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the context of their complex relationships with Britain, Argentina and South America the United States handled the situation of the Falklands invasion quite adroitly I think.
They expended considerable diplomatic effort in trying to resolve the situation as peacefully as they could. When they were unable to persuade the Junta of the foolishness of their 'adventurousness' they provided useful intelligence to the British in their successful attempt to reclaim the Islands.
Considering the considerable possibilities for alienating both Britain and Latin America they came out of this alarming affair about as well as they could have - it certainly didn't impair the relationship between Thatcher and Reagan.
Until China invades territory Japan occupies your comparisons are meaningless. IMHO...
@2 A_Voice,
Nov 29th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yet the Argentines maintain that they only lost because of the help the Americans gave us.
Which is it A_Voice, the Americans helped us win OR they gave no help at all?
And we defeated the Argentines by our own little selves! lol!
(and according to you there is no Special Relationship)
You cannot have it both ways.
“Yurr, hit 'im in his incompatibilities, Isolde!”
Nov 29th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 07/8/9
Nov 29th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never mind ganging up on me....the Special Relationship is one sided, don't delude yourselves otherwise...
We have an almost identical situation, in fact more so because the Falklands has been occupied by the Brits since 1833 the Japs have never occupied those islands the Jap Govt bought them from a private owner.
Yet on the one hand the Yanks gave Intel and the use of Ascension which the Brits already owned compared to....“the United States is therefore bound to defend Japan in the event of an armed conflict”
This is to their former enemy in living memory....Wake up and smell the coffee, there is a Special Relationship, but it's with the Japanese....
BTW ...Isolde you forgot to add......“You can't have them they're ours”....;-))))
To be fair,
Nov 29th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If we desperately heeded the Americans,
Then one may have a point,
But as we do not, that is then irrelevant,
The special relationship is very special [but]
It depends on how you interpret it,
From the civilian point, they seem less popular,
From a military point, we have access to ???? That other countries can only dream off,
We don’t get everything, but then, neither does anybody else,
Just a special thought..
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@6 A_Smeghead
Nov 29th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hello, Earth calling all Space Cadets, read your own posting.
“That's much more than the “Help” the Brits got with the Falklands...”
What, they made a statement, and that’s “more help” than the Brits got.
Your comprehension in English is clearly, somewhat lacking.
As it would seem, is your intelligence.
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Nov 29th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see you didn't like me making a fool of you....too slow to catch a cold...
What is Pugol-H anyway? Is it like Hepatitis -C?
Sounds like some sort of treatment.....Get Pugol-H...for all those embarrassing little problems...
Funny...I didn't see a statement like that one from the Yanks when the Falklands were invaded....just words, but they would have given support to the supposed “Special Relationship”
So the Yanks make a Public Statement.....that means nothing?...orrrrr... it means...”the United States is therefore bound to defend Japan in the event of an armed conflict”
Who shall I believe you or the Yanks?....Doh!
@10 A_Voice,
Nov 29th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pouf!
Of course the lslands are ours.
Every sane person knows this proven fact.
(well maybe a few rabid malvinistas don't know, but that doesn't count as they & their views are completely irrelevant).
And we don't care what this type of person thinks.
(is that haughty enough for you, sr Think?).
l'm glad, A_Voice, that you are finally getting the correct picture!
Keep it up.
@13 A_Stink
Nov 29th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In your case, much better to stay quiet and have people THINK you’re a fool, than speak and let them know you’re a fool.
As for Pugol-H, its lower form vernacular, monolingual kebab eater variant, estuary English slang, for a thoroughly nice chap, all round good egg.
And do you really want to discuss your “embarrassing little problems...” online????? Get a grip man, some decorum please!!!!
The Senkaku Islands are in the Japan/American mutual defence pact, as part of Japan, the “Yanks” always were going to defend it. But you probably didn’t know that, the Chinese did though, so you missed that part of it completely.
There can be no doubt the “Yanks” will back up the Japanese, with the required force if necessary. They are good allies.
As for the help they gave to the Brits, look up Sidewinder (Whooosh), as I said “proportional” to what was required at the time.
Not about who you believe, it’s about how believable, or not, you’re statements are.
How stupid are you?.. How can one speak on a written forum....
Nov 30th, 2013 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's right back peddling....Just a statement @12 then a Promise of defence @15
....give up before you make an even greater fool of yourself....
Pugol-H...is that like Vagisil.....as you sound like a right fanny.....
A bit of arsenal and intel for the Brits
A full blown defence of Japan for the Japs
Against the Chinese that would mean everything they've got...
Yeah Great British allies...
A_Voice (#10)
Nov 30th, 2013 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 07/8/9 'Never mind ganging up on me....
the Special Relationship is one sided, don't delude yourselves otherwise...'
That's why its not called a 'general' relationship.
And, yes, I am aware that Blair's reply was “How high, Mr Bush, sir?”
Clearly too much to expect an intelligent answer, given your intellect is as underwhelming as your maturity is questionable.
Nov 30th, 2013 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your understanding of these (complicated) matter is clearly limited, fogged also no doubt by your ideology.
I realise that trying to explain “metaphorically” would be futile, you just don’t have the bandwidth for it.
Never mind, there is always Murcopress Spanish, you probably wouldn’t be so “out of your depth” there, still wouldn’t be the brightest bulb in the box, but here you’re just a boy in a man’s world.
You don’t have the balls for it! And no amount of haemorrhoid cream is going to change that.
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