Looting and robbing spread to several areas of the Argentine city of Cordoba on Tuesday evening and night following a walkout from the police in the midst of a conflict over pay and other benefits. Read full article
It looks like CFK has been a naughty girl, and a petty one at that. Denying Federal cheques! If I was Governor de la Sota, I'd've refused to let any of the goods out of my province until the cheques turned up. No wheat or bread for Buenos Aires.
It also didn't take long for the people to take advantage of the fact that there was no police. Robbing and looting.
But desperate people, who can see another default is imminent, will do anything to try and and have some sort of insurance against the coming storm.
This is all the fault of Cristina's attempt to become a complete dictator.
The people of Cordoba should be marching on Buenos Aires and demanding their rights, as guaranteed (supposedly), under the constitution.
Since Cordoba was the starting point of (ultimately effective) popular uprisings against the government in 1955 and 1969 could history be repeating itself again?
He was busy emptying supermarkets in his home town.
Pretty strange that Cordoba the province that according with Cabeza Dura leads the growth and feed all us in Buenos Aires thanks to the El Campo production cannot feed her own people that are starving.
I know... I can hear Cabeza Dura explanation telling as that this is another plot from El Peronismo...
Oh! wait a minute de La Sota is not a Peronist???
Oops!!!!
I cannot wait to see cabeza Dura post with his explanation meanwhile I will go to the Chinese Super market to buy some Pop corn before some Cordobes pelotudo starts to loot over it...
Dany, a fine upstanding citizen such as yourself, should join the Police Reserve(if they have one!lol!) & then you could help patrol the city.
What a nasty vindictive creature is your dear Cristina.
Had an argument with the Governor, so holds up his working cash float.
Childish to the extreme.
Of course , a mature government would deploy the Gendarmeria and the Policia Federal , but that's too much to expect from CFK .
Dany , those are real businesses being ruined , real jobs being lost and real people getting hurt...in Argentina .
Don't you care ?
A perfect example how brotherly love works in SA. They can't even make a relationship work inside a country between provinces, how can they ever expect it to work between countries?
It's interesting to see how Kirchner is so willing to punish her own people and not send in support......all over politics.
#4 Danielle can't join the police because the us in Buenos Aires is in villa 31. It use to be Europe and apparently he came home to roost.
3)
You said it yourslef Dany Verga.... You know how this works. How can I be looting supermarkets in my own home town if the attacks are only in Cordoba Capital???
He says that National security is not a provintial matter, but how come last when the same happened in Bariloche the gendarmerie was sent over and in last elections after the PASO, 6000 gendarmeries ware deployed in BsAs and left the BORDERS NAKED only for two months till the elections in October. F$·cking hypocrits
I'm very suspicious about the cops motives anyway, of course scum of society will go to vandalizing, I'm sure the fires had something to do with you guys too.
@1
“But desperate people, who can see another default is imminent, will do anything to try and and have some sort of insurance against the coming storm.”
The ‘imminent default’ bit seems to be shoehorned in here. I’m not even remotely a fan of the national government, and even less of a fan of the provincial government, but I can tell you that the people out robbing here in Córdoba were neither making a political statement, nor were they thinking of the country’s external debts. It’s like trying to blame Britain’s membership in the EU for the London Riots!
@12
“I hope the riots spread and quickly.”
1 dead, 130 injured and you hope it spreads quickly so a politician you don’t like looks bad! What a lovely and balanced sentiment!
Being a hard-working, peaceful person (like most people who live in Córdoba) living here with my two young children, I hope they resolve this as soon as possible.
@CD
Sorry to see the vandalism in your province.
From the videos I have seen, it seems to be only the small family owned supermarkets that are being looted. Is that right?
I'm guessing the large stores had private security.
This is another great effort by Argentina to woo the Falkland Islanders to choose Argentine sovereignty.
CFK: Amigos! In the past you missed out on the great opportunity to be thrown out of aircraft into the River Plate, you missed the change to have a lower average income, and now to make you really jealous look at the looting and riots you are missing in Stanley and Puerto Kirchener!
Next we will lure you over to the dark Side by having some more fuel and food shortages.
@14
A few of the bigger supermarkets were ransacked, but smaller businesses seem to have borne the brunt of it. There're not many businesses open this morning and a mood of reflection and uncertainty.
I hope De la Sota and Cristina don't play politics about this, although I don't have a great deal of faith in either of them not doing so.
The police in Córdoba are already embroiled in a narco-trafficking scandal, so it's incredible that they would leave the city unprotected to demand more money (lost narco revenues, I suppose). Not good at all. (Unless you are a misanthrope who loves political point-scoring from afar, then it's great!)
14)
Actually there has being a lot of big chain stores who have private security that have being sacked and attacked.
Generally these things dont occur by chance, these hits are organized have you seen the gang in motobike attack video ?) and people don't do so because of starvation, it's just outright thieving. Punteros move these poor hoods people they control to run attacks and cause mayhem whenever they can mostly for political reasons. Cops want a rise in the salaries in December when most of the reshuffle of salaries are given after summer months.The provintial gov't had removed some of the bosses of the police do to the obvious links with the drug trafficking gangs.
Also funny that only the cops in the capital of the province decided to go on strike too.
It now seems Berni has agreed to send over the gendarmeries after all, but the damage is already done
That video of the motochorros was nuts, imagine working in a shop and being confronted with that. With all the businesses shut today, I hope they don't start targeting homes.
A friend in Nueva Córdoba says his street is barricaded off by bins and there are groups of aggressive and paranoid 20-year old vigilantes patrolling the streets. I suppose when the police abandon you that's going to happen, but I fear aggressive vigilantism and suspicion could lead to more innocent people being harmed.
@3 Wow! Must be really difficult for you. Being omniscient. But why didn't you tell everyone? BEFORE not AFTER. Could it be that, being a Peronista and hundreds of miles away, you don't have a clue and are just trying to score points? But at least you're there with the typical argie I'm alright Jack attitude.
@13 Actually, the London Riots had a lot to do with Britain's regrettable and mistaken membership of the EU. Full control of borders, removal of undesirables, maximum irreversible punishments. All could have been done under British law rather than EU destabilising influence.
It might be worth considering that blocs have no feeling for the people. In Europe why would the European Commission care about 63 million out of 500 million? It's only 12.6%. Is mercosur any different? Nah. Why would argieland care about little Uruguay? It's only about 8% of the size.
And this is why blocs, unless properly constructed, are a bad idea. Little mercosur will collapse soon. EU a few years later. Being intelligent, the people of Britain will ensure that the UK abandons the EU in time. After which the UK will be well-placed to profit from the collapse of Europe.
20) Have they localized from which hood or area these thieves are from??? Im sure the people of the capital know where this hit and run gangs come from and who they report to.
Never mind adding the Malvinas to the portfolio , after this little lot , they will have to persuade the provinces of Cordoba and Santa Fe to remain part of Argentina . The people are utterly fed up .
If they even try to cecede , other provinces may follow suit .
Looting before Christmas in Argentina is common. There are lots of people who can´t afford a gift. The K are disgusting for encouraging this, they are a mafia who want to turn crime into law and law into crime.
3)Shite Dany, you should not escupir para arriba... You went for the chinese super market after all
This just came out an minutes ago, it occured in a Glew, BsAs a chinese owner resisted a to be sacked by a gang.
@20
I really don’t know. It seemed to be happening in several areas of the city, so whether it was centrally orchestrated or whether people were taking advantage of the lack of police presence and general chaos to go looting, I don’t know! The video of the motorbikes suggested some degree of organization, but how organized it was, and who was doing the organizing, I couldn’t say.
@21 “Actually, the London Riots had a lot to do with Britain's regrettable and mistaken membership of the EU. Full control of borders, removal of undesirables, maximum “irreversible” punishments. All could have been done under British law rather than EU destabilising “influence”.”
Actually, it didn’t. You’re just trying to shoehorn in a link that wasn’t there to suit your agenda. You seem to be suggesting that membership to the EU impeded an even more draconian response to the riots (which was pretty heavy-handed as it was, and the sentences were designed to make an example of the rioters), but haven’t suggested how Britain’s EU membership actually sparked the riots (like how it was Argentina’s ‘imminent default’ that set off this looting, as suggested earlier.) Anyway, where would we send the ‘undesirables’ if they were British citizens? Or was it just gangs of Poles and angry EU citizens doing the rioting
I know the Daily Mail portrays it as a case that Britain lets anyone and everyone in and that most immigrants are here to bleed the benefits system dry, but that’s really not the case.
Long time no hear………
As usual, good, balanced and truthful posts from Mr. Frase...
It’s Brits like you that help me keep my faith in the Anglo race... ;-)
I've long said the K regime will end bloody. I am not cheering the deaths and destruction to private property BUT I am cheering this onto the rest of the country so that they're all out of power and in jail.
33) It sets a dangerous precedent for police wishing to get a rise at the expence of making cuts in other places and emiting new bonds. You want a rise?? Easy just let the thieves and the opportunist take over the streets in no time and remain on strike. De la Sota's government backed down and gave the cops a handsome rise a couple of hours ago, the conflict is over now and the gendermarie deployment has being cancelled, which Capitanich had denied to send over in the first place. Eventually Security Secretary Berni disauthorized Capitanich and agreed to send them at last minute.
Now other provintial forces and public employees should take note. Of course the allies of the central govenment will get finance and re enforcements inmediately. Kirchner's whip is used with a liberal hand upon those who dont submit to the government.
Talk about abuse of power, how long before gas & electric only arrives in areas who vote the right way. Like melemaise does in Zimbabwe.
In this instance I think Argentina could learn a lot from Venezuela, there they have troops on the streets and the looters form and orderly line outside the shops.
Hardly any disruption at all, even to the traffic or other shoppers.
@4 lsolde
Except he’s not in Argentina, which is why his local supermarket is still open for business.
@27 Frase
The London riots also had little political/social/ideological/whatever root, they were mostly just a discount shopping spree, S. American style. In places well planned, organised and executed.
I’m not so sure the response was “pretty heavy handed”, all things considered.
@27 Couple of simple questions. Have you ever worked at the border? Have you ever worked in law enforcement? If you can answer Yes to both of those questions, honestly, I might listen to your opinion. Can you do that?
39) Battle was right, however dont forget that people will only steal when there is high chances of success and no punishment of doing so. When people steal and the public gets accustomed to get robbed and abused always and does nothing about it then corruption becomes systematic and tolerated.
There is things that happen every day in Argentina which in other countries you simply cannot do because the if the public finds out they you will be burned you alive
No, there was orchestrated and organized looting in Bariloche and in BsAs just like happened here last night which is different than riots. There was last year mass mobilizations of the 8 November and in September ( I cant remember the date) but those were peaceful.
@42
I’m afraid I can’t! I have experience with the UK immigration laws though, and know that it’s far from an open door policy for non-EU citizens. Anyway, I’m not sure why having Conqueror of the mercopress forum listen to my “opinion” (why the speech marks, by the way?) is supposed to trouble me unduly.
Is it just my “opinion” regarding immigration that won’t be listened to by not working for the police or border control, or will you also not be listening to me pointing out that your attempt to link the EU with the London Riots was exceptionally feeble? Where do I need to have worked for you to listen to that?
While I’m at it, what exactly was the procedure for deporting British citizens? Where did you send them?
@38
“I’m not so sure the response was “pretty heavy handed”, all things considered.”
Notwithstanding the fact that the initial riots were triggered by the police shooting a civilian, 4 years in prison for starting a riot event on facebook that never even went ahead, I’d personally say it was heavy-handed. That’s not the point though, I was responding to the original poster who was lamenting that the response wasn’t heavy-handed and draconian enough.
You’ll have to tell me where I added a political/social/ideological/whatever root to either case.
@31 + 40
Cheers Think! Hope you’ve been keeping well.
Good find on the picture, by the way. I had no idea that the Córdoba riots had spread as far as Bariloche! ;)
what's all the hubbabaloo???
Argentina has been looted non stop since The kirchners took office,
these looters are only taking their presidents lead and helping themselves, sounds more like she's jealous that they got there first,
Its all good...more please!
The coverage on TV showed people as the animals they really are. It really was quite disgusting. There are 2 people dead. Funny Truth hasn't reared his chavanist head here....
Funny Truth hasn't reared his chavanist head here....
Oh he did. But as is usual for article where he has no comeback and can't argue with something that is truthful, he highlighted the photo was not in Cordoba and left.
The photo may have been wrong but even Think can't deny there is looting and rioting.
49) Ha, so true!! Think is very weak argumenting... The photo IS wrong, but not really worth mentioning because its the fact that the article states that matters or i did not consider worth mentioning.
Now sure he will search the entire web to defuse the sources he doesn't like with the most extraordinary, most random and most of all unimportant stuff he can find... Like the price of imported chairs or some Scandinavian acquaintance of his in the credit section.
@45 Frase
The Police shooting was the trigger for a response from that community, nothing to do with what followed elsewhere.
I was not endorsing the original poster, nor suggesting there should have been a more draconian response. Simply stating it was not “heavy handed”
The criticism of the Police/Courts here was their initial softly softly approach failed.
You didn’t add “political/social/ideological/whatever root”, I did. I was referring to your statement:
“but I can tell you that the people out robbing here in Córdoba were neither making a political statement, nor were they thinking of the country’s external debts”.
(45) Frase
You say...:
” I had no idea that the Córdoba riots had spread as far as Bariloche! ;)”
I say...:
Your British humour is becoming a bit too Cordooooobes...;-)
- But seriously now.....Last years looting in Bariloche caused a purge in the police department and the sacking of the Mayor......
Who do you Think should take political responsibility in Cordoba for what happened yesterday?
(47) Condorito
You say...:
I had no idea that the Changos had spread as far as Bariloche!
I say...:
Jupppp...... Until today, Bariloche is the southestmost spreading point of the the Wallmart disease...
Walmart yech, The supermarket that ate the world. And tackier than Paris Hilton. But not in my country thank you very much. We do have K-Mart and Costco. But you've got to draw the line somewhere.
@44 Fase & 45 CD
Sorry you have to put up with this kind of particularly nasty behaviour. In Australia we have had some looting after natural disasters - the QLD floods a few years ago come to mind, but it's rare and sporadic and there are extra penalties for looting as well as a high degree of public outrage.
If you get caught looting you are very likely to end up on the 6 o'clock news with a camera focused on your mug. On the other hand we do have a big problem with shop-lifting. If you're carrying a backpack many shops will ask if they can examine the contents when you leave. It's really annoying.
60. Walmart is one of most successful companies the world has ever known. You may not like it but 100s of millions of people do.
Just like everyone ragging on McD yet yoy they get bigger and bigger.
I think its funny people knock success.
My guess is jealousy.
63)Walmart is very big indeed...It buys so much Chinese junk that at one point I cant remember if they accounted for a quarter of American trade deficit with the Chinese.
I guess when business becomes far to transnational, the interest of the huge companies isn't always compatible with the interest it's nation of birth
That's cool Yankeeboy, I don't mind if you shop at Walmart, or how many billions it's worth. More power to you. I just don't want any Walmart's in my town. It's simply a matter of taste.
I agree with you about Macca's . It has definitely assisted in making you bigger & bigger.
Walmart was half way decent when Sam was alive. But they took a major turn for the worse when Sam died. In fact he's probably rolling over in his grave.
Walmart's US sales is slumping and they are struggling to keep their shelves stocked. They struggle to make payments on time as well. My company supplies them and were close to being put on hold. This past year has not been good for Walmart. What's worse about Walmart is they way they treat their employees, excuse......Associates as they endearingly call them.
Simply put....Walmart is shit because they buy Chinese shit, they sell shit, treat employees like shit.
The crowning touch was they fired an employee for coming to the aid of a woman of a woman being raped in a Walmart parking lot. Walmart's human and compassionate side.
Walmart took over ASDA in the UK. They previously had employees, they are now called Associates. Not too sure if they are self-employed now or is it a dodge on the Employment Law?
Anyway, being as big as Walmart are they are bound to have some wacko customers. Note Lunatic (of Chew Butt) at 1.00 ish.
She moved from Tempe to my neck of the woods around Boston. She was constantly wanting my address......lol. I think la campora tired of her and pulled out some Chinese justice and shot her in the back of the head and sent her family a bill for the bullet and disposal fee.
You are correct in Ghandi's case, wrong in the your final two examples - the Afrikkaners who devised apartheid ( the clue is in the name ) were of Dutch ancestry and the rights MLK fought for already existed in the U.K. at the time.
At least the Chineese shopkeeper in Glew fought back and shot a few of these thugs. Too bad they burned his house, and that he could not have killed a few more of them.
The peso depreciation is breathtaking. If I were an rg exporter or shop owner I wouldn't be selling any stock.
BCRA spent U$180mm yesterday only to see both blue and govt rate plummet!
I wonder why Think isn't giving us updates?
Except in Argentina they're called the annual pre-christmas riots.
Look daddy got you a whole roll of toilet paper.
And the family gave thanks they wouldn't have to use their hand for at least a week.
Which is it right for food left to wipe?
Or it doesn't matter?
You say (to Mr. Marcos Alejandro)...:
There was only one persona here that referred to yankeeboy as Fred” (Bates) and Baldy. You trolls always eventually tip your cards.”
I say (to you)...:
Well now there are three personas here that refer to yankeeboy as ”Fred (Bates) and Baldy”. You turnips always eventually tip your cards.
Stink.....allow me to be more specific. Three personas and one person. I knew you would be posting on my comment. Can't you think of anything original to say? Oh....sorry....I forgot, you are an Argentine. No worries. I don't hate Argentine's like most, I just feel sorry for you all.....especially when I visit. Fortunately my extended family are doctors and lawyers....they can (barely) keep up with inflation.
Think is lashing out. He hates when my predictions come to fruition.
Also now that there's no Christmas bonus he can't figure out how much salt he needs to BBQ his dogs.
Stink you would think so in your delicate, yet fragile mind. Seems you RGs have little tolerance, hence fails to comprehend what a spanking really is.
lolololololololololol
Troy.....I have to say the Sussie was great entertainment. Sadly her last lobotomy was a total failure. If you recall she claimed to be sexually abused by her father and ran the the USA.....or something like that. She claimed to go out on drinking binges........what a head case.
So how many logins does he have? I've always thought 5.
Any guess how much U$ bcra threw down the black hole today?
At some point even a dumb dog learns after awhile.
I guess its dawn in chubut already.
Ridiculous idiot.
So next week reserves will be under 30b
I wonder when monthly inflation will be 4.5%
Is that considered hyper in alba nations?
Correction to your post Anglo -
Frenzied shoppers stepping over dying man/crowd member
A worker trampled to death
Another death *(2012)
Woman miscarried as result of charging mob. **
Vestige says:
”And in America its called Black Friday, where retail workers literally die at the hands...and feet... of frenzied obese consumers.
Notice the term retail workers
Anglotino says:
Great link. Unfortunately it only lists one worker having died in SEVEN YEARS!
Notice the term worker
Vestige's well thought and scathing reply actually AGREES with me!
Death 1: Crowd member
Death 2: worker
Death 3: thief
Death 4: bystander?
4 deaths in 7 years enough for you
Yes but only ONE was a worker as per your originally comment.
So only 1 WORKER died in seven years. I mean they are LITERALLY dying at the hands and feet of frenzied obese consumers.
Verdict ? :)”
1/ You don't know the definition of 'literally'
2/ You don't know the definition of 'worker' and how it differs from crowd members, thieves and bystanders
3/ You can't count
4/ That you're not that smart.
#91 are you really trying to compare consumers, obsessed with BUYING on Black Friday with greedy thieves, obsessed with stealing in Cordoba? You have a serious ethical problem if you put buying in the same category with stealing and looting.
yankee, Santa Fe is the next on the list of the annual Loot and scoot pre-Christmas sales for the thieves. They are sending Gendarmerie AND Coast Guard. CG only because they really can't work on the sea anymore......at least with seaworthy vessels.
107
Skip is just upset because I caught him mixing up the actual plural of Dwarf...Dwarfs with Tolkein's Dwarves...
So he's taking it out on you....anyone else would have laughed and said oh' I didn't realise that...but not Skip he doesn't like admitting errors...
To err is human ....to forgive is divine....I forgive him for his mistake ..he knows not what he does....
Hasn't got much of a sense of humour either....;-))))
♬ Once a jolly swagman sat beside the billabong,
Under the shade of a coulibah tree,
And he sang as he sat and waited till his billy boiled:
Who'll come a waltzing matilda with me ♬
♬ Watch me wallabies feed, mate
Watch me wallabies feed,
They're a dangerous breed, mate
So watch me wallabies feed
Altogether now......♬
...there you go Skip I'm singing for you........because you're worth it...
Just because Tolkien popularised a word doesn't make it incorrect. So dwarfs is ALSO correct, it doesn't make it solely correct. What makes me laugh is how pedantic you are about a single word but then let yourself get caught up on the Mandela article with false extrapolations.
So I was wrong to insist the El Capitano (your new best friend?) use dwarves instead of dwarfs. All you have proven is that 1/ I am of a different generation than you, so learnt a more modern spelling and grammar and 2/ that I don't speak, nor try to speak, and spell British English.
But you revel in turning an entire thread into a discussion about a single word and have been forum-chasing me here to try and do the same thing. So what will happen?
I will still use dwarves for the plural noun and dwarfs for the verb as I have been taught. Because they are still correct usages of the word.
It really doesn't matter who invents or popularises (or is that popularizes) a word because I still think I spelt (or is it spelled) it correctly and I don't harbour (or is that harbor) any delusions that my enrolment (or is that enrolment) at university (or is that college or even varsity) will change my spelling as I am studying architecture. You being old and grey (or is that gray) and ageing (or is that aging) probably find younger people's use of language uncivilised (or is that uncivilized) and lacking the same flavour (or is that flavor) of your own but your should relax and let the humour (or is that humor) shine through and realise (or is that realize) that dwarves is an acceptable and common spelling for younger people to utilise (or is that utilize).
So as El Capitano sits down with his hot cup of joe or java, but never coffee, every morning in British Columbia (but not Colombia) you can be content in the knowledge that you have more in common with him than with me.
Yes, well. What can one say?
Although l mainly use British type English, l occasionally shift into American English when it suits me.
Both are correct.
btw, A_Voice,
the Swagman camped, not sat by a billabong
and its a coolabah tree, not coulibah.
And wallabies are only dangerous when you hit them with your car or bike,
dangerous to the car or bike, that is.
deadly to the wallaby.
112 Think
Indeed he did ....he was suggesting that El Capitano's first language was not English because he used Dwarfs to describe small people and implied a first Language English speaker would use Dwarves.
Of course not realising the word Dwarves was invented by Tolkien and the preferred plural of the noun dwarf is in fact dwarfs.
Now he implies that anyone using Dwarfs is old and grey....
...and he is a hip youngster for using Dwarves....not sure he realises how old Tolkien's fictional work is....
Now he thinks I'm pals with El Capitano and that I'm old and grey...;-)))))
.....hey Skip...I am not old...but I'm twice as good at taking the piss out of Aussies than you....;-))))
Isolde for a Sheila....you are also not right....look at the original lyrics jpg. on the right... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltzing_Matilda
I got those lyrics online and they are obviously incorrect but so are you... it's irrelevant how the tree is correctly spelt...in the song it's Coolibah...
114 Think
You have hit the nail on the head Mr Think....if I am not you and people were so damn sure....then perhaps El Capitano is also not you...
I am not always in Scotland, but I am here now for a while...if anyone fancies a coffee...;-))))
Wet and warm today....12 degrees in December...for Scotland that's good.
Oh the comedy duo is out in force. I'll try to hide my surprise.... though I really aren't when Think has been unable to bring himself to reply to me highlighting his recent blunders regarding currency on the Falkland Islands and the use of the word country. Where he won't dare or deign to reply?
A_Voice, as I have said and will now say for the last time, dwarves is an acceptable spelling. So I was correct. I also thought El Capitano was Danish so is he not an ESL speaker? It is hard to keep up on here. So he is a native English speaker?
Anyway, you as per usual want to drag this out into a 30 or 40 post conversation, so at least you have Think here to do that now. Because it really isn't that important if this is the pinnacle of you proving me wrong on here.
As I stated above it doesn't matter who invents a word, that does not make it any less legitimate to use. Perhaps I should have used dwarrows instead? Though I see that the Oxford Dictionary doesn't use dwarrows just dwarfs and funnily enough DWARVES. So dwarrows is out? Or are we both wrong?
So perhaps I shouldn't use nerd (Dr Suess), chortle (Lewis Carroll), yahoo (Jonathan Swift), cyberspace, gargantuan etc etc.
Oooh malapropisms is a good one considering our current topic perhaps. Invented by an author so no longer valid as a word it would seem.
And don't even get me started on that little known author who died in 1616 that dared to invent so many common words in use today. But I guess that all's well that ends well or perhaps you feel the game is still afoot.
Anyway A_Voice, thank you for educating me on the source of the word dwarves. I will take that on board and probably use that information. Sorry that you were unable to prove that I was incorrect though.
Think, a hipster? You really have no clue. But I applaud your consistency.
Hey Skip I must have missed the Danish bit...I thought El Capitano was a trawler skipper from Grimsby though he never engages in posts long enough for me to test him on that...
...lucky for him....
...and speaking of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson... one lazy sunny afternoon in Croft on the grassy banks of the river Tees, in the grounds of the church, I lay down in Uffish thought and almost fell asleep....perhaps if I had, I may have dreamt of a rabbit with a watch disappearing down a rabbit hole.....chortle chortle...;-)
Well perhaps I was wrong and he isn't Danish. Mind you I just found his first post and he signed off with Capt John G Evans so it doesn't sound very Danish after all. Though my ancestors changed their Danish surname from Njielson when they emigrated to Britain and that changed
You will see his posts have degenerated quite spectacularly since then. Why his original persona now positively dwarfs his current one.
When it comes to the works of nom de plumes I can but only say 'I would rather have my ignorance than another man’s knowledge, because I have so much more of it.'
@113 A_Voice,
You are right & wrong.
l mis-spelled coolibah as coolabah & you mis-spelled it as coulibah.
lsolde O,
A_Voice O
0--0, Null-Null.
However if you read the lyrics AGAIN, you will find that the Swagman -
camped BY A billabong
NOT:-
sat beside the billabong.
So:
lsolde, 1,
A_Voice, O,
1-O
snigger!
chortle,
giggle.
Definitely camped…. I've never heard a version with sat.
And I have never seen Coolabah spelt as Coolibah.
Though it seems that Coolibah may have been invented by Henry Lawson… an author…. now where have we recently heard of authors inventing their own spelling?
lts only a bit of fun, Vestige.
Don't take life so seriously.
l couldn't care less how A_Voice spells it.
Just want to see if he is man enough to admit he is wrong.
And as for Dwarfs/dwarves, who cares?
Maybe you could call them, smaller adult humans.
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Dec 04th, 2013 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like CFK has been a naughty girl, and a petty one at that. Denying Federal cheques! If I was Governor de la Sota, I'd've refused to let any of the goods out of my province until the cheques turned up. No wheat or bread for Buenos Aires.
It also didn't take long for the people to take advantage of the fact that there was no police. Robbing and looting.
But desperate people, who can see another default is imminent, will do anything to try and and have some sort of insurance against the coming storm.
This is all the fault of Cristina's attempt to become a complete dictator.
The people of Cordoba should be marching on Buenos Aires and demanding their rights, as guaranteed (supposedly), under the constitution.
Since Cordoba was the starting point of (ultimately effective) popular uprisings against the government in 1955 and 1969 could history be repeating itself again?
Dec 04th, 2013 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where is Cabeza Dura?????
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah! Yeap!
He was busy emptying supermarkets in his home town.
Pretty strange that Cordoba the province that according with Cabeza Dura leads the growth and feed all us in Buenos Aires thanks to the El Campo production cannot feed her own people that are starving.
I know... I can hear Cabeza Dura explanation telling as that this is another plot from El Peronismo...
Oh! wait a minute de La Sota is not a Peronist???
Oops!!!!
I cannot wait to see cabeza Dura post with his explanation meanwhile I will go to the Chinese Super market to buy some Pop corn before some Cordobes pelotudo starts to loot over it...
Dany, a fine upstanding citizen such as yourself, should join the Police Reserve(if they have one!lol!) & then you could help patrol the city.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a nasty vindictive creature is your dear Cristina.
Had an argument with the Governor, so holds up his working cash float.
Childish to the extreme.
Of course , a mature government would deploy the Gendarmeria and the Policia Federal , but that's too much to expect from CFK .
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dany , those are real businesses being ruined , real jobs being lost and real people getting hurt...in Argentina .
Don't you care ?
Thanks Dany
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perfect comment to show how law and order is disintegrating in Argentina.
Who is the President of Argentina again?
#5 UP , of course she doesn't care, she doesn't live there like all the trolls, none live there...
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unless you are kissing cfk's ass in this country you get nothing. Period. Opposition is not a recognized entity.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0A perfect example how brotherly love works in SA. They can't even make a relationship work inside a country between provinces, how can they ever expect it to work between countries?
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's interesting to see how Kirchner is so willing to punish her own people and not send in support......all over politics.
#4 Danielle can't join the police because the us in Buenos Aires is in villa 31. It use to be Europe and apparently he came home to roost.
Welcome to Kirchnerism.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 03)
Dec 04th, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0You said it yourslef Dany Verga.... You know how this works. How can I be looting supermarkets in my own home town if the attacks are only in Cordoba Capital???
Capitanich doesn't want to send the gendarmerie to Cordoba city so why should we bother in talking about what we alredy know is ocurring. http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1644510-capitanich-aseguro-que-de-la-sota-eludio-responsabilidades-y-nego-un-llamado
He says that National security is not a provintial matter, but how come last when the same happened in Bariloche the gendarmerie was sent over and in last elections after the PASO, 6000 gendarmeries ware deployed in BsAs and left the BORDERS NAKED only for two months till the elections in October. F$·cking hypocrits
I'm very suspicious about the cops motives anyway, of course scum of society will go to vandalizing, I'm sure the fires had something to do with you guys too.
I hope the riots spread and quickly.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Dec 04th, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But desperate people, who can see another default is imminent, will do anything to try and and have some sort of insurance against the coming storm.”
The ‘imminent default’ bit seems to be shoehorned in here. I’m not even remotely a fan of the national government, and even less of a fan of the provincial government, but I can tell you that the people out robbing here in Córdoba were neither making a political statement, nor were they thinking of the country’s external debts. It’s like trying to blame Britain’s membership in the EU for the London Riots!
@12
“I hope the riots spread and quickly.”
1 dead, 130 injured and you hope it spreads quickly so a politician you don’t like looks bad! What a lovely and balanced sentiment!
Being a hard-working, peaceful person (like most people who live in Córdoba) living here with my two young children, I hope they resolve this as soon as possible.
@CD
Dec 04th, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to see the vandalism in your province.
From the videos I have seen, it seems to be only the small family owned supermarkets that are being looted. Is that right?
I'm guessing the large stores had private security.
This is another great effort by Argentina to woo the Falkland Islanders to choose Argentine sovereignty.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK: Amigos! In the past you missed out on the great opportunity to be thrown out of aircraft into the River Plate, you missed the change to have a lower average income, and now to make you really jealous look at the looting and riots you are missing in Stanley and Puerto Kirchener!
Next we will lure you over to the dark Side by having some more fuel and food shortages.
You will be thus persuaded to be Argentine!
@14
Dec 04th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A few of the bigger supermarkets were ransacked, but smaller businesses seem to have borne the brunt of it. There're not many businesses open this morning and a mood of reflection and uncertainty.
I hope De la Sota and Cristina don't play politics about this, although I don't have a great deal of faith in either of them not doing so.
The police in Córdoba are already embroiled in a narco-trafficking scandal, so it's incredible that they would leave the city unprotected to demand more money (lost narco revenues, I suppose). Not good at all. (Unless you are a misanthrope who loves political point-scoring from afar, then it's great!)
@16
Dec 04th, 2013 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I share your lack of faith.
Beyond this looting incident, narco related corruption appears to be a ticking time bomb for Argie society.
14)
Dec 04th, 2013 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually there has being a lot of big chain stores who have private security that have being sacked and attacked.
Generally these things dont occur by chance, these hits are organized have you seen the gang in motobike attack video ?) and people don't do so because of starvation, it's just outright thieving. Punteros move these poor hoods people they control to run attacks and cause mayhem whenever they can mostly for political reasons. Cops want a rise in the salaries in December when most of the reshuffle of salaries are given after summer months.The provintial gov't had removed some of the bosses of the police do to the obvious links with the drug trafficking gangs.
Also funny that only the cops in the capital of the province decided to go on strike too.
It now seems Berni has agreed to send over the gendarmeries after all, but the damage is already done
@18
Dec 04th, 2013 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I saw the moto video - definitely premeditated.
That video of the motochorros was nuts, imagine working in a shop and being confronted with that. With all the businesses shut today, I hope they don't start targeting homes.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A friend in Nueva Córdoba says his street is barricaded off by bins and there are groups of aggressive and paranoid 20-year old vigilantes patrolling the streets. I suppose when the police abandon you that's going to happen, but I fear aggressive vigilantism and suspicion could lead to more innocent people being harmed.
@3 Wow! Must be really difficult for you. Being omniscient. But why didn't you tell everyone? BEFORE not AFTER. Could it be that, being a Peronista and hundreds of miles away, you don't have a clue and are just trying to score points? But at least you're there with the typical argie I'm alright Jack attitude.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Actually, the London Riots had a lot to do with Britain's regrettable and mistaken membership of the EU. Full control of borders, removal of undesirables, maximum irreversible punishments. All could have been done under British law rather than EU destabilising influence.
It might be worth considering that blocs have no feeling for the people. In Europe why would the European Commission care about 63 million out of 500 million? It's only 12.6%. Is mercosur any different? Nah. Why would argieland care about little Uruguay? It's only about 8% of the size.
And this is why blocs, unless properly constructed, are a bad idea. Little mercosur will collapse soon. EU a few years later. Being intelligent, the people of Britain will ensure that the UK abandons the EU in time. After which the UK will be well-placed to profit from the collapse of Europe.
20) Have they localized from which hood or area these thieves are from??? Im sure the people of the capital know where this hit and run gangs come from and who they report to.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never mind adding the Malvinas to the portfolio , after this little lot , they will have to persuade the provinces of Cordoba and Santa Fe to remain part of Argentina . The people are utterly fed up .
Dec 04th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they even try to cecede , other provinces may follow suit .
Un Pais de Bueno Gente ?
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looting before Christmas in Argentina is common. There are lots of people who can´t afford a gift. The K are disgusting for encouraging this, they are a mafia who want to turn crime into law and law into crime.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sooner the wicked witch goes, the better for the people.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 03)Shite Dany, you should not escupir para arriba... You went for the chinese super market after all
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This just came out an minutes ago, it occured in a Glew, BsAs a chinese owner resisted a to be sacked by a gang.
http://www.noticiasargentinas.com/nuevosite/21918-comerciante-chino-muerto-en-intento-saqueo.html
Just going to fetch some pop corn you said ??
@20
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I really don’t know. It seemed to be happening in several areas of the city, so whether it was centrally orchestrated or whether people were taking advantage of the lack of police presence and general chaos to go looting, I don’t know! The video of the motorbikes suggested some degree of organization, but how organized it was, and who was doing the organizing, I couldn’t say.
@21 “Actually, the London Riots had a lot to do with Britain's regrettable and mistaken membership of the EU. Full control of borders, removal of undesirables, maximum “irreversible” punishments. All could have been done under British law rather than EU destabilising “influence”.”
Actually, it didn’t. You’re just trying to shoehorn in a link that wasn’t there to suit your agenda. You seem to be suggesting that membership to the EU impeded an even more draconian response to the riots (which was pretty heavy-handed as it was, and the sentences were designed to make an example of the rioters), but haven’t suggested how Britain’s EU membership actually sparked the riots (like how it was Argentina’s ‘imminent default’ that set off this looting, as suggested earlier.) Anyway, where would we send the ‘undesirables’ if they were British citizens? Or was it just gangs of Poles and angry EU citizens doing the rioting
I know the Daily Mail portrays it as a case that Britain lets anyone and everyone in and that most immigrants are here to bleed the benefits system dry, but that’s really not the case.
This could be the start of the end for TMBOA and she seems no to GAF.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or does she know what time the plane flies?
27) They left clean the Team Motorace store very clean !!
Dec 04th, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How much more evidence is there needed that this is just outright theft and not starving people ....??
http://www.mototimecba.com.ar/2013/12/04/delincuentes-desvalijan-el-local-de-team-motorace-aprovechando-el-caos-reinante-en-cordoba/
Dany, can you get me a new tele, you know one of the 3d ones, I will give you top dollar
Dec 04th, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(13), (16), (20) & (27) Mr. Frase
Dec 04th, 2013 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long time no hear………
As usual, good, balanced and truthful posts from Mr. Frase...
It’s Brits like you that help me keep my faith in the Anglo race... ;-)
Best wishes for the Anglo Cordooobes Team…
Ok, let’s roll….… and, HEYYY !....:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2QApwtE8zQ
I've long said the K regime will end bloody. I am not cheering the deaths and destruction to private property BUT I am cheering this onto the rest of the country so that they're all out of power and in jail.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hoping this spreads, could be the end for this awful government.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 32 yankeeboy
Dec 04th, 2013 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so that they're all out of power and in jail.
Too good for them by a long way: out of power and dead is better.
Hung, drawn and quartered is best.
FILL YA BOOTS! Christmas come early.....
Dec 04th, 2013 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Peso is out of control!
Dec 04th, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am practically giddy.
33) It sets a dangerous precedent for police wishing to get a rise at the expence of making cuts in other places and emiting new bonds. You want a rise?? Easy just let the thieves and the opportunist take over the streets in no time and remain on strike. De la Sota's government backed down and gave the cops a handsome rise a couple of hours ago, the conflict is over now and the gendermarie deployment has being cancelled, which Capitanich had denied to send over in the first place. Eventually Security Secretary Berni disauthorized Capitanich and agreed to send them at last minute.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now other provintial forces and public employees should take note. Of course the allies of the central govenment will get finance and re enforcements inmediately. Kirchner's whip is used with a liberal hand upon those who dont submit to the government.
Talk about abuse of power, how long before gas & electric only arrives in areas who vote the right way. Like melemaise does in Zimbabwe.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In this instance I think Argentina could learn a lot from Venezuela, there they have troops on the streets and the looters form and orderly line outside the shops.
Hardly any disruption at all, even to the traffic or other shoppers.
@4 lsolde
Except he’s not in Argentina, which is why his local supermarket is still open for business.
@27 Frase
The London riots also had little political/social/ideological/whatever root, they were mostly just a discount shopping spree, S. American style. In places well planned, organised and executed.
I’m not so sure the response was “pretty heavy handed”, all things considered.
@ Think, President Batlle of Uruguay was right when he described all Argentines as being a bunch off thieves
Dec 04th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC ( And MercoPress Editor)
Dec 04th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would have sworn I knew that Cordoba ChangoMás supermarket on the above picture......
I do...! I do...! It's some 1,500 km south, in Bariloche.....
http://www.diarioveloz.com/notas/84046-bariloche-los-detenidos-declararon-que-no-dirigieron-los-saqueos-diciembre
Turnips!
@27 Couple of simple questions. Have you ever worked at the border? Have you ever worked in law enforcement? If you can answer Yes to both of those questions, honestly, I might listen to your opinion. Can you do that?
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 039) Battle was right, however dont forget that people will only steal when there is high chances of success and no punishment of doing so. When people steal and the public gets accustomed to get robbed and abused always and does nothing about it then corruption becomes systematic and tolerated.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is things that happen every day in Argentina which in other countries you simply cannot do because the if the public finds out they you will be burned you alive
Weren't there riots just before Christmas last year?
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 043) Anglotino
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, there was orchestrated and organized looting in Bariloche and in BsAs just like happened here last night which is different than riots. There was last year mass mobilizations of the 8 November and in September ( I cant remember the date) but those were peaceful.
@42
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I’m afraid I can’t! I have experience with the UK immigration laws though, and know that it’s far from an open door policy for non-EU citizens. Anyway, I’m not sure why having Conqueror of the mercopress forum listen to my “opinion” (why the speech marks, by the way?) is supposed to trouble me unduly.
Is it just my “opinion” regarding immigration that won’t be listened to by not working for the police or border control, or will you also not be listening to me pointing out that your attempt to link the EU with the London Riots was exceptionally feeble? Where do I need to have worked for you to listen to that?
While I’m at it, what exactly was the procedure for deporting British citizens? Where did you send them?
@38
“I’m not so sure the response was “pretty heavy handed”, all things considered.”
Notwithstanding the fact that the initial riots were triggered by the police shooting a civilian, 4 years in prison for starting a riot event on facebook that never even went ahead, I’d personally say it was heavy-handed. That’s not the point though, I was responding to the original poster who was lamenting that the response wasn’t heavy-handed and draconian enough.
You’ll have to tell me where I added a political/social/ideological/whatever root to either case.
@31 + 40
Cheers Think! Hope you’ve been keeping well.
Good find on the picture, by the way. I had no idea that the Córdoba riots had spread as far as Bariloche! ;)
what's all the hubbabaloo???
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has been looted non stop since The kirchners took office,
these looters are only taking their presidents lead and helping themselves, sounds more like she's jealous that they got there first,
Its all good...more please!
@Think
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had no idea that the Córdoba riots had spread as far as Bariloche!
I had no idea that the Changos had spread as far as Bariloche!
The coverage on TV showed people as the animals they really are. It really was quite disgusting. There are 2 people dead. Funny Truth hasn't reared his chavanist head here....
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny Truth hasn't reared his chavanist head here....
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh he did. But as is usual for article where he has no comeback and can't argue with something that is truthful, he highlighted the photo was not in Cordoba and left.
The photo may have been wrong but even Think can't deny there is looting and rioting.
49) Ha, so true!! Think is very weak argumenting... The photo IS wrong, but not really worth mentioning because its the fact that the article states that matters or i did not consider worth mentioning.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now sure he will search the entire web to defuse the sources he doesn't like with the most extraordinary, most random and most of all unimportant stuff he can find... Like the price of imported chairs or some Scandinavian acquaintance of his in the credit section.
Is that Cordoba or Cordova?
Dec 04th, 2013 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 Frase
Dec 05th, 2013 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Police shooting was the trigger for a response from that community, nothing to do with what followed elsewhere.
I was not endorsing the original poster, nor suggesting there should have been a more draconian response. Simply stating it was not “heavy handed”
The criticism of the Police/Courts here was their initial softly softly approach failed.
You didn’t add “political/social/ideological/whatever root”, I did. I was referring to your statement:
“but I can tell you that the people out robbing here in Córdoba were neither making a political statement, nor were they thinking of the country’s external debts”.
Too much like hard work Mate!
(45) Frase
Dec 05th, 2013 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
” I had no idea that the Córdoba riots had spread as far as Bariloche! ;)”
I say...:
Your British humour is becoming a bit too Cordooooobes...;-)
- But seriously now.....Last years looting in Bariloche caused a purge in the police department and the sacking of the Mayor......
Who do you Think should take political responsibility in Cordoba for what happened yesterday?
(47) Condorito
You say...:
I had no idea that the Changos had spread as far as Bariloche!
I say...:
Jupppp...... Until today, Bariloche is the southestmost spreading point of the the Wallmart disease...
CabezaDura
Dec 05th, 2013 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0MercoPress are famous for putting the wrong photos up. It would seem as much as at least one per month.
And yes, when Think is concentrating on the minutiae it shows. And he's on a roll this week.
54) Well now he is feeling a bit embarrassed and wants to pick up the discussion as a result of our conversation
Dec 05th, 2013 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0;-)
@Think
Dec 05th, 2013 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Until today, Bariloche is the southestmost spreading point of the the Wallmart disease...
Oh no it's not. Lider Punta Arenas would have to take that prize. But I heard there are plans to put a walmart in Belgrano II.
Any how I was referring to the Changos, my progenitors, not walmart.
It should really be ComechingonesMas in Córdoba.
@42 It is 1) Need 2) Opportunity 3) Justification
Dec 05th, 2013 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0People commit crime like theft when they want something, have the opportunity to take it and can try to justify it.
Its Walmart and its bigger and much more profitable than Argentina.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Walmart, the favorite place for rednecks as the Yank above :-))
Dec 05th, 2013 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice(wrong) picture MercoP :-))))))))))
Walmart yech, The supermarket that ate the world. And tackier than Paris Hilton. But not in my country thank you very much. We do have K-Mart and Costco. But you've got to draw the line somewhere.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@44 Fase & 45 CD
Sorry you have to put up with this kind of particularly nasty behaviour. In Australia we have had some looting after natural disasters - the QLD floods a few years ago come to mind, but it's rare and sporadic and there are extra penalties for looting as well as a high degree of public outrage.
If you get caught looting you are very likely to end up on the 6 o'clock news with a camera focused on your mug. On the other hand we do have a big problem with shop-lifting. If you're carrying a backpack many shops will ask if they can examine the contents when you leave. It's really annoying.
Fell sad to see this news, poor Chinese small chain store owner.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Chinese are not going to like to hear this news t...he way Kirchner is managing China's backyard.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 060. Walmart is one of most successful companies the world has ever known. You may not like it but 100s of millions of people do.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just like everyone ragging on McD yet yoy they get bigger and bigger.
I think its funny people knock success.
My guess is jealousy.
63)Walmart is very big indeed...It buys so much Chinese junk that at one point I cant remember if they accounted for a quarter of American trade deficit with the Chinese.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess when business becomes far to transnational, the interest of the huge companies isn't always compatible with the interest it's nation of birth
@63
Dec 05th, 2013 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's cool Yankeeboy, I don't mind if you shop at Walmart, or how many billions it's worth. More power to you. I just don't want any Walmart's in my town. It's simply a matter of taste.
I agree with you about Macca's . It has definitely assisted in making you bigger & bigger.
In the UK its usually a matter of planning permission.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Walmart was half way decent when Sam was alive. But they took a major turn for the worse when Sam died. In fact he's probably rolling over in his grave.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Walmart's US sales is slumping and they are struggling to keep their shelves stocked. They struggle to make payments on time as well. My company supplies them and were close to being put on hold. This past year has not been good for Walmart. What's worse about Walmart is they way they treat their employees, excuse......Associates as they endearingly call them.
Simply put....Walmart is shit because they buy Chinese shit, they sell shit, treat employees like shit.
The crowning touch was they fired an employee for coming to the aid of a woman of a woman being raped in a Walmart parking lot. Walmart's human and compassionate side.
Walmart took over ASDA in the UK. They previously had employees, they are now called Associates. Not too sure if they are self-employed now or is it a dodge on the Employment Law?
Dec 05th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, being as big as Walmart are they are bound to have some wacko customers. Note Lunatic (of Chew Butt) at 1.00 ish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qZt9VtcAJk
68 Chris
Dec 05th, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How do you know that's not Sussie of Tempe AZ ??
@ 69 Troy Tempest
Dec 05th, 2013 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Lunatic is 82 YO, much like the idiot on the vid.
Sussie COULD be one of the gorgeous trailer trash that also grace the vid. Some lovely girls on there, eh? :o)
She moved from Tempe to my neck of the woods around Boston. She was constantly wanting my address......lol. I think la campora tired of her and pulled out some Chinese justice and shot her in the back of the head and sent her family a bill for the bullet and disposal fee.
Dec 05th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 068) Those people remind me of Bubba J stereotype, he had his wedding reception at Walmart. Funny stuff
Dec 05th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu9unf8A00s
70 71 72 Chris Poppy CD
Dec 06th, 2013 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chris,
I think you're quite right, but surely you and Poppy must remember thst Sussie had some 'gender confusion' and an obsession with anal sex!
CD,
Funny vid! - any of these Walmart customers could be some of the social mal-adjusted pro-K, Campora trolls we've encountered on here.
Look for a Dany customer in Lederhosen...
63 yankeeboy Walmart is one of most successful companies the world has ever known. You may not like it but 100s of millions of people do
Dec 06th, 2013 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hell Yeah Fred, millions of redneck like you baldy.
Fred yankeeboy goes to Walmart:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/47618/
What did Mandela, Gandhi, and Luther King have in common?
Dec 06th, 2013 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0They both had to fight to tear down ANGLO forms of government and institutions.
Coincidence?
Food for thought.
.......And they all shopped at Marks and Spencer.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Coincidence?
Food for thought.
@75 Tobias
Dec 06th, 2013 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct in Ghandi's case, wrong in the your final two examples - the Afrikkaners who devised apartheid ( the clue is in the name ) were of Dutch ancestry and the rights MLK fought for already existed in the U.K. at the time.
R.I.P. Nelson Mandela.
At least the Chineese shopkeeper in Glew fought back and shot a few of these thugs. Too bad they burned his house, and that he could not have killed a few more of them.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The peso depreciation is breathtaking. If I were an rg exporter or shop owner I wouldn't be selling any stock.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0BCRA spent U$180mm yesterday only to see both blue and govt rate plummet!
I wonder why Think isn't giving us updates?
#74 there was only only persona here that referred to yankeeboy as Fred and baldy. You trolls always eventually tip your cards.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well not much different to the London riots!!
Dec 06th, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except in Argentina they're called the annual pre-christmas riots.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look daddy got you a whole roll of toilet paper.
And the family gave thanks they wouldn't have to use their hand for at least a week.
Which is it right for food left to wipe?
Or it doesn't matter?
(80) Captain Poppy
Dec 06th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say (to Mr. Marcos Alejandro)...:
There was only one persona here that referred to yankeeboy as Fred” (Bates) and Baldy. You trolls always eventually tip your cards.”
I say (to you)...:
Well now there are three personas here that refer to yankeeboy as ”Fred (Bates) and Baldy”. You turnips always eventually tip your cards.
Chuckle chuckle.....
Stink.....allow me to be more specific. Three personas and one person. I knew you would be posting on my comment. Can't you think of anything original to say? Oh....sorry....I forgot, you are an Argentine. No worries. I don't hate Argentine's like most, I just feel sorry for you all.....especially when I visit. Fortunately my extended family are doctors and lawyers....they can (barely) keep up with inflation.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think is lashing out. He hates when my predictions come to fruition.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also now that there's no Christmas bonus he can't figure out how much salt he needs to BBQ his dogs.
Captain Poppy got spanked :-))
Dec 06th, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Fred, tell him what a great salesperson you used to be :-))
Seems like the provincial govs are a bit twitchy thinking they'll be seeing their own protests soon.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Peso 6.25
Meow ruff dinner.
@ 73 Troy Tempest
Dec 06th, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now come on, even if sussie was bending both ways have you SEEN the women on that video, or I THINK they are women.
:o)
#86
Dec 06th, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stink you would think so in your delicate, yet fragile mind. Seems you RGs have little tolerance, hence fails to comprehend what a spanking really is.
lolololololololololol
Troy.....I have to say the Sussie was great entertainment. Sadly her last lobotomy was a total failure. If you recall she claimed to be sexually abused by her father and ran the the USA.....or something like that. She claimed to go out on drinking binges........what a head case.
or at least they don´t burn down the bloody neighbourhood!!
Dec 06th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 082 - and in America its called Black Friday, where retail workers literally die at the hands...and feet... of frenzied obese consumers.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Crushed to death in their place of work, by consumerist human/orc/zombie hybrid type creatures. (or shot on occasion)
http://www.blackfridaydeathcount.com/
So how many logins does he have? I've always thought 5.
Dec 06th, 2013 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any guess how much U$ bcra threw down the black hole today?
At some point even a dumb dog learns after awhile.
Vestige says:
Dec 07th, 2013 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0”And in America its called Black Friday, where retail workers literally die at the hands...and feet... of frenzied obese consumers.
Crushed to death in their place of work, by consumerist human/orc/zombie hybrid type creatures. (or shot on occasion)
www.blackfridaydeathcount.com/ ”
Great link. Unfortunately it only lists one worker having died in SEVEN YEARS!
Verdict: FAIL!
89 Captain Poopy
Dec 07th, 2013 - 07:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Talking to the wrong person Brit :-)))
92 yankeeboy Fred
So how many logins does he have? I've always thought 5
I am impressed,,,red necks know how to count :-)))))
(94) Marcos Alejandro
Dec 07th, 2013 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have a very serious situation here....
If you want to be one of the many logins that I don't have you MUST stop being a bostero.....
I guess its dawn in chubut already.
Dec 07th, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ridiculous idiot.
So next week reserves will be under 30b
I wonder when monthly inflation will be 4.5%
Is that considered hyper in alba nations?
Correction to your post Anglo -
Dec 07th, 2013 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Frenzied shoppers stepping over dying man/crowd member
A worker trampled to death
Another death *(2012)
Woman miscarried as result of charging mob. **
4 deaths in 7 years enough for you ??
*www.securityinfowatch.com/blog/10833563/black-friday-2012-produced-a-death-armed-robbery-fistfights-and-more
**/dailycaller.com/2012/11/22/seven-black-friday-horror-stories/
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/black-friday-violence_n_2167879.html
Verdict ? :)
95 Think
Dec 07th, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never! :-)
Stop confusing Fred, his bald head is about to explode counting :-))
BA govt and many other provinces are worried about civil unrest.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm practically giddy!
I hope the helicopter is fueled up.
So did the folk in New Orleans...the fema one... but it wasn't unfortunately.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0So how many presidents did you go through last time?
Dec 08th, 2013 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 05?
8?
Wasnt that in a week?
I'm giddy with anticipation.
Who's you and wheres he/she from.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Presidents ? - Dubya.
End.
Still better than any of the vile monkeys that have been ruling argentina for the last 200yrs.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige says:
Dec 08th, 2013 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0”And in America its called Black Friday, where retail workers literally die at the hands...and feet... of frenzied obese consumers.
Notice the term retail workers
Anglotino says:
Great link. Unfortunately it only lists one worker having died in SEVEN YEARS!
Notice the term worker
Vestige's well thought and scathing reply actually AGREES with me!
Death 1: Crowd member
Death 2: worker
Death 3: thief
Death 4: bystander?
4 deaths in 7 years enough for you
Yes but only ONE was a worker as per your originally comment.
So only 1 WORKER died in seven years. I mean they are LITERALLY dying at the hands and feet of frenzied obese consumers.
Verdict ? :)”
1/ You don't know the definition of 'literally'
2/ You don't know the definition of 'worker' and how it differs from crowd members, thieves and bystanders
3/ You can't count
4/ That you're not that smart.
You LITERALLY walked straight into that one.
#91 are you really trying to compare consumers, obsessed with BUYING on Black Friday with greedy thieves, obsessed with stealing in Cordoba? You have a serious ethical problem if you put buying in the same category with stealing and looting.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yankee, Santa Fe is the next on the list of the annual Loot and scoot pre-Christmas sales for the thieves. They are sending Gendarmerie AND Coast Guard. CG only because they really can't work on the sea anymore......at least with seaworthy vessels.
Reminds me of 2001.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whump whump whump
Is Moreno in Italy yet?
If not I bet he's packing rather quickly.
Lol - worked himself up into a froth over a plural tense, types out long pedantic rant.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yeah you really got me Anglo.
How can I literally walk into something on the internet.
1,2,3,4,5. loooooool
107
Dec 08th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Skip is just upset because I caught him mixing up the actual plural of Dwarf...Dwarfs with Tolkein's Dwarves...
So he's taking it out on you....anyone else would have laughed and said oh' I didn't realise that...but not Skip he doesn't like admitting errors...
To err is human ....to forgive is divine....I forgive him for his mistake ..he knows not what he does....
Hasn't got much of a sense of humour either....;-))))
♬ Once a jolly swagman sat beside the billabong,
Under the shade of a coulibah tree,
And he sang as he sat and waited till his billy boiled:
Who'll come a waltzing matilda with me ♬
♬ Watch me wallabies feed, mate
Watch me wallabies feed,
They're a dangerous breed, mate
So watch me wallabies feed
Altogether now......♬
...there you go Skip I'm singing for you........because you're worth it...
Lols (pl.)
Dec 08th, 2013 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige
Dec 08th, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See you still can't find more than one.
A_Voice
Dwarfs. Dwarves.
Just because Tolkien popularised a word doesn't make it incorrect. So dwarfs is ALSO correct, it doesn't make it solely correct. What makes me laugh is how pedantic you are about a single word but then let yourself get caught up on the Mandela article with false extrapolations.
So I was wrong to insist the El Capitano (your new best friend?) use dwarves instead of dwarfs. All you have proven is that 1/ I am of a different generation than you, so learnt a more modern spelling and grammar and 2/ that I don't speak, nor try to speak, and spell British English.
But you revel in turning an entire thread into a discussion about a single word and have been forum-chasing me here to try and do the same thing. So what will happen?
I will still use dwarves for the plural noun and dwarfs for the verb as I have been taught. Because they are still correct usages of the word.
It really doesn't matter who invents or popularises (or is that popularizes) a word because I still think I spelt (or is it spelled) it correctly and I don't harbour (or is that harbor) any delusions that my enrolment (or is that enrolment) at university (or is that college or even varsity) will change my spelling as I am studying architecture. You being old and grey (or is that gray) and ageing (or is that aging) probably find younger people's use of language uncivilised (or is that uncivilized) and lacking the same flavour (or is that flavor) of your own but your should relax and let the humour (or is that humor) shine through and realise (or is that realize) that dwarves is an acceptable and common spelling for younger people to utilise (or is that utilize).
So as El Capitano sits down with his hot cup of joe or java, but never coffee, every morning in British Columbia (but not Colombia) you can be content in the knowledge that you have more in common with him than with me.
Yes, well. What can one say?
Dec 08th, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although l mainly use British type English, l occasionally shift into American English when it suits me.
Both are correct.
btw, A_Voice,
the Swagman camped, not sat by a billabong
and its a coolabah tree, not coulibah.
And wallabies are only dangerous when you hit them with your car or bike,
dangerous to the car or bike, that is.
deadly to the wallaby.
TWIMC
Dec 08th, 2013 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did our young Hipster friend from Ozzieland really use dwarves insted of dwarfs” ...???
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Hipster_example_.jpg
ROFLMAOBBQ
112 Think
Dec 08th, 2013 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed he did ....he was suggesting that El Capitano's first language was not English because he used Dwarfs to describe small people and implied a first Language English speaker would use Dwarves.
Of course not realising the word Dwarves was invented by Tolkien and the preferred plural of the noun dwarf is in fact dwarfs.
Now he implies that anyone using Dwarfs is old and grey....
...and he is a hip youngster for using Dwarves....not sure he realises how old Tolkien's fictional work is....
Now he thinks I'm pals with El Capitano and that I'm old and grey...;-)))))
.....hey Skip...I am not old...but I'm twice as good at taking the piss out of Aussies than you....;-))))
Isolde for a Sheila....you are also not right....look at the original lyrics jpg. on the right...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltzing_Matilda
I got those lyrics online and they are obviously incorrect but so are you... it's irrelevant how the tree is correctly spelt...in the song it's Coolibah...
(113) A_Voice
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Weren't El Capitano, you and me supposed to be the same person in Mr. Anglolatino's Tolkien universe?
You surely walzed Isolde .....
Congrats Anglo - you have found the mercopress grammatical error - here is your mercopress pencil of glory and 2 litres of amyl-nitrate.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0114 Think
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have hit the nail on the head Mr Think....if I am not you and people were so damn sure....then perhaps El Capitano is also not you...
I am not always in Scotland, but I am here now for a while...if anyone fancies a coffee...;-))))
Wet and warm today....12 degrees in December...for Scotland that's good.
Oh the comedy duo is out in force. I'll try to hide my surprise.... though I really aren't when Think has been unable to bring himself to reply to me highlighting his recent blunders regarding currency on the Falkland Islands and the use of the word country. Where he won't dare or deign to reply?
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0A_Voice, as I have said and will now say for the last time, dwarves is an acceptable spelling. So I was correct. I also thought El Capitano was Danish so is he not an ESL speaker? It is hard to keep up on here. So he is a native English speaker?
Anyway, you as per usual want to drag this out into a 30 or 40 post conversation, so at least you have Think here to do that now. Because it really isn't that important if this is the pinnacle of you proving me wrong on here.
As I stated above it doesn't matter who invents a word, that does not make it any less legitimate to use. Perhaps I should have used dwarrows instead? Though I see that the Oxford Dictionary doesn't use dwarrows just dwarfs and funnily enough DWARVES. So dwarrows is out? Or are we both wrong?
So perhaps I shouldn't use nerd (Dr Suess), chortle (Lewis Carroll), yahoo (Jonathan Swift), cyberspace, gargantuan etc etc.
Oooh malapropisms is a good one considering our current topic perhaps. Invented by an author so no longer valid as a word it would seem.
And don't even get me started on that little known author who died in 1616 that dared to invent so many common words in use today. But I guess that all's well that ends well or perhaps you feel the game is still afoot.
Anyway A_Voice, thank you for educating me on the source of the word dwarves. I will take that on board and probably use that information. Sorry that you were unable to prove that I was incorrect though.
Think, a hipster? You really have no clue. But I applaud your consistency.
Hey Skip I must have missed the Danish bit...I thought El Capitano was a trawler skipper from Grimsby though he never engages in posts long enough for me to test him on that...
Dec 09th, 2013 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0...lucky for him....
...and speaking of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson... one lazy sunny afternoon in Croft on the grassy banks of the river Tees, in the grounds of the church, I lay down in Uffish thought and almost fell asleep....perhaps if I had, I may have dreamt of a rabbit with a watch disappearing down a rabbit hole.....chortle chortle...;-)
Dwarfs and dwarves are both right.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0What are you all going on about.
Argentina is disintegrating and you talking about nonsense.
Cheer the fall.
I am.
Well perhaps I was wrong and he isn't Danish. Mind you I just found his first post and he signed off with Capt John G Evans so it doesn't sound very Danish after all. Though my ancestors changed their Danish surname from Njielson when they emigrated to Britain and that changed
Dec 09th, 2013 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/19/south-georgia-completes-first-phase-of-reindeer-eradication-1.900-animals#comment230768
You will see his posts have degenerated quite spectacularly since then. Why his original persona now positively dwarfs his current one.
When it comes to the works of nom de plumes I can but only say 'I would rather have my ignorance than another man’s knowledge, because I have so much more of it.'
@113 A_Voice,
Dec 09th, 2013 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are right & wrong.
l mis-spelled coolibah as coolabah & you mis-spelled it as coulibah.
lsolde O,
A_Voice O
0--0, Null-Null.
However if you read the lyrics AGAIN, you will find that the Swagman -
camped BY A billabong
NOT:-
sat beside the billabong.
So:
lsolde, 1,
A_Voice, O,
1-O
snigger!
chortle,
giggle.
Definitely camped…. I've never heard a version with sat.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0And I have never seen Coolabah spelt as Coolibah.
Though it seems that Coolibah may have been invented by Henry Lawson… an author…. now where have we recently heard of authors inventing their own spelling?
ALL of your pedantic grammar disputes settled at the following website.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0images.encyclopediadramatica.es/b/bd/Newsfromdomo.jpg
Poor Vestige!
Dec 09th, 2013 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol. yeah.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0...poor vestige.
dwarves/dwarfs baawww. lol.
lts only a bit of fun, Vestige.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't take life so seriously.
l couldn't care less how A_Voice spells it.
Just want to see if he is man enough to admit he is wrong.
And as for Dwarfs/dwarves, who cares?
Maybe you could call them, smaller adult humans.
Yes yes Vestige, dwarves and dwarfs.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Playing second fiddle to A_Voice…. poor poor Vestige. Thank you for reinforcing that.
Is that the closest you can get to proving me wrong? Riding the coat tails of someone who couldn't even prove me wrong anyway?
Poor Vestige I can pwn you in my sleep…. speaking of which...
loooool
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Notice the term ”retail workers“.
20 paragraphs, and some dwarfs/dwarves later: I can pwn you in my sleep.
lololol
Mayor of MDP asked business not yo open due to the rioting.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I want this to move just a little more north and maybe into Olivos.
Whump whump whump
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