MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
New effort by Brazil to have Mercosur comply with the EU agreed timetable
Brazil trusts Mercosur and the European Union can exchange the proposed tariff lists for a free trade agreement keeping to the original schedule, before the end of the year, according to the country's foreign ministry. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBrazil seems to be adamant that it will sign a deal.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what will happen if Argentina continues to drag its feet. Everyone can live without Argentina but can Brazil do without the EU?
UN rapporteur calls out Venezuela on media harassment:
Dec 04th, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/02/guardian-terrorism-snowden-alan-rusbridger-free-press
Oh, my bad, it was actually Britain that he was talking about.
Yup,
Dec 04th, 2013 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil seems to be getting very tired and impatient with Argentina now.
I wonder if they'll vote Argentina out of Mercosur, or whether Brazil will just leave Mercosur.
Either way it won't do Argentina any good.
It will be amazing if this is done by the end of this year.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well,
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0good luck, brazil,
but by the time you ever get an agreement,
the unsightly EU would have collapsed ..lol
People here are so dumb, I have to ask whether they live in the same world as I do.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cant see how Mercosur can deal with EU while Argentina continúes with is restrictive trade policies.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#6 No sir it is you who is dumb.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your comment at #2 was presumably meant to suggest that somehow press freedoms are heavily restricted in the UK based on a statements of one low ranking UN official.
If you did some research you might come across the reporters without borders Press Freedom Index. This places the UK 29th in the World, well ahead of Argentina (54th) and Venezuela (117th).
Similarly, looking at Transparency International's corruptions perception index reveals that the UK is rated 14th in the world, well ahead of Argentina (106th) and Venezuela (160th).
What do you have to say?
You have to admire their optimism.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can’t say as I share it.
@inthegutter
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was talking about suggestions by Britard know-nothings abroad that Brazil may leave Mercosur. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. This tiny little media thing called Mercopress can really brainwash people as long as it can give them what they want to hear, can't it!
Oh, if you think your stats mean anything, you can see how Qatar or Oman fare in your rankings. They're none too shabs -- for two oil theocracies, that is. Goes to show how bad your rankings are at measuring government treatment of the press. The second little ranking you cited, Transparency International, doesn't even purpote to measure press freedom at all - hence why Qatar, for example, is in such good shape at it. The first one still hasn't released any ranking for this year - when it does, no doubt we'll see Britain showing a crapstatic position compared to other Western countries. Perhaps better than most Latin American countries because RSF's ranking doesn't measure *government* treatment of the press only but also such things as journalist murders at ther hands of gangsters. And, for being a violent region, Latin America, even the more liberal countries within it, does suffer from such a problem than most of the wealthy countries, even when they have such abusive governments such as Britain.
Whataboutism is alive and well isn't it Forgetit86.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now how about talking about an article for a change.
Brazil wants a deal and Argentina doesn't. So how might that happen?
( 6) Forgetit86
Dec 04th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“People here are so dumb....”
I say...:
Maybe........ but some of them are quite smart......... for turnips to be....
#10 You are seriously deluded and a liar.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) RWBs press freedom index does indeed measure government treatment (read their methodology).
2) They have released their 2013 rankings (the UK slipped one place from 2012).
3) Qatar is at 110 and Oman is at 141 - hardly high.
#13 You are seriously a very bad reader.
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 & 3) What I said isn't that RWB ignores government abuse of the press - what I said, and I'm quoting myself verbatim, is that “RSF's ranking doesn't measure *government* treatment of the press ONLY”. They also take into account anti-media attacks by, for example, armed groups acting outside the law. That's why you have Qatar and Oman, two absolutist monarchies that, though largely peaceful, don't allow government dissent, ranking better than democracies such as Venezuela and Mexicio, which guarantee the right to such dissent, but where journalists are more under pressure due high levels of social violence.
2) So they released their ranking before the UK government went apopletic about the NSA leaks, linking journalism to terrorism. If the RSF is worth anything, in 2014 we'll see Britain alongside Egypt, the UAE and Ethiopia among the countries that suppress journalism by linking it to terrorism.
@10 Forgetit86
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can only assume you are retarded in some way as your post is a stream of utter bollocks.
A few points:
1. What does press freedom have to do with this article?
2. If press freedom does somehow relate to the article, which it doesn't, then you're claiming Qatar (ranked 110) and Oman (ranked 141) are “none too shabs”? You obviously have VERY low standards.
3. 'The first one still hasn't released any ranking for this year'. If you're referring to RWB Press Freedom Index 2013 then yes, it has.
http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2013,1054.html
4. “Transparency International, doesn't even purpote to measure press freedom at all”. You're right, it doesn't. Its stated aim is to “stop corruption and promote transparency, accountability and integrity at all levels and across all sectors of society”. This doesn't invalidate it's research.
5. “RSF's ranking doesn't measure *government* treatment of the press” - Yes it does. One of its stated aims is to “forward protest letters to the authorities to exert pressure on governments that do not respect the right to inform and be informed”
6. But really, what does press freedom have to do with this article??
Your post is just one long list of shite. You are either one of the most ill informed people to ever post on this site or you are, as I mentioned before, RETARDED!
Isn't the article about Brazil and free trade?
Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is the definition of deflection?
Someone who knows the article is true and the truth hurts.
Which is why Think swans in with his stock standard response like that. He always trots that out when he can't bring himself to address the actual article.
Poor Argentina. PMSL
@12
Dec 04th, 2013 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And thus in his infinite wisdom spake the tatie boggle from his mangelwurzel patch in Chubut. Oyez,oyez!
Yes, Argentina must sooo quickly open its markets to the EU juggernaut, where bicycles outsell cars!
Dec 05th, 2013 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL
#18
Dec 05th, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Average car price in UK.....£13000
Average cycle price in UK...£300
Is it surprising that it is cheaper to buy a bike than a car ?
Children like bikes and grow out of them quickly so there is a continual market for them. Mountain/all terrain biking is now a growing recreational sport, also accounting for increased sales.
Britain's success in world cycle sports has also added to increased sales..
Is it so surprising that in an average family with one car, there can be 4 bicycles.
With your usual juvenile reasoning you equate bicycle ownership with poverty.
@6 Dunno, forgotten, where's “your world”? Somewhere in the UDFj-39546284 galaxy? Did you notice that this “special rapporteur” is a member of the legal chambers set up deliberately to take advantage of a piece of legislation pushed through by a “leading” member's politician husband? In other words, he's a biased, money-grabbing, blinkered toss-pot. Emmerson should be disbarred. He has no more credibility than you. A minus figure!
Dec 05th, 2013 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 Oh no, forgotten, we wouldn't want Brazil to leave mercosur. Nothing like taking down 1 and 4 bits of countries at the same time. Time you latam wannabes recognised your worth. The British government and British politicians are finally coming around to recognise the EU for what it is. A self-perpetuating bureaucracy created to perpetuate the useless. Nobody in Europe or North America “needs” latam for anything. We can even do without the overt corruption, criminality and murders prevalent in argieland and Brazil. Argies don't mind visiting Brazil for the World Cup. As we know, argies run really fast.
@12 On the other hand, pea brains (or is that pee brains?) don't improve. Do you, Twinky? Here's a “little” thought for you. I know you can't cope with BIG ones. British, Falkland Islands, United States and similar posters don't have a problem responding to even the most ignorant, brain-dead, brain-washed latam tossers (e.g. axel_arg, Think the twink, Lies PaTroll, Forgotten this century). On the other hand, said latam tossers can't have an intelligible, courteous, sane, debate, discussion, discourse, dispute with anyone. And latam says “La la la la, not listening”, with fingers in ears.
@18 Why is it a problem when you can't afford cars?
Argentina and Britain could well help each other out,
Dec 05th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need immigrants,
We want more trade with Brazil,
You pull out of Mercosur,
We trade more with Brazil and the rest,
And we will give you all 50,000 people that we are expecting from
Romania and Bulgaria free of charge,
CFK is always up for a laugh..lolol..
just a thought..
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